i have a problem here say i go into a car dealership order a performance car pay my hard earned money pick it up take it home park in garage wake up in morning my performance car was replaced with low end budget car and 4 oil changes free and told you cant have we made, it over powered so what would you do . me i would say take this junk car back give me my money back and keep your oil changes! if you dont know what im saying im talking about the silver streak turret I want what coin i spent on the bounty or give me something else with same value in point give me a subj'r i will be satisfied but dont insult me with build tokens i can get enough base parts in 15 mins hitting a ssb's to rebuild what ever weapon i have to put on just give me my gold or substite it with a subj'r i think it would show better player relations
Ghillie I can see only negative reactions to the silverstrike uav nerf, yet you guys pretend it was an overwhelming player request. Can you please show us just one player who requested this nerf?
Why should any player participate in any upcoming event if you are going to nerf prizes like your standard practice has become?
@FrankL_038 - How is this a step in the right direction???? It was the "best" when it was released....a day later they nerf it...damage and range. Now you say that this is a step in the right direction????? Come on!
They give you a three course meal, then take it all away bar one entree....wait a little while, then give you a bread roll, and you are happy with that??? especially if you paid for a three course meal which you got in the first place.
@FrankL_038 - How is this a step in the right direction???? It was the "best" when it was released....a day later they nerf it...damage and range. Now you say that this is a step in the right direction????? Come on!
They give you a three course meal, then take it all away bar one entree....wait a little while, then give you a bread roll, and you are happy with that??? especially if you paid for a three course meal which you got in the first place.
Obviously they didnt test it. But curious did u do any math to how much damage this turret can do? With 8 UAVs the damage it can do to 1 ship is 11.6 million damage. Seeing that a subj has base armor of 12million that basically kills it in 1 reload and that is with the CURRENT UAV not original.
So basically thats giving someone an all you can eat buffet and taking away half of the food on the buffet. The person will still get full...
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Ghillie-why is it that the "team" REFUSES to listen to the players? Maybe you can answer this question with some honesty here. My take is this-players spend money on this game, the game designers respond by offering things in the game that NO ONE wants or asks for. When players complain they REFUSE to change it, do away with it or make it better. They constantly say it's our computers when there are lag problems, freezing of the game, etc and then deny compensation when a player loses their fleets or argue about it or flat ignore the tickets. We understand they want the game to continue-yet some VERY SIMPLE adjustments to make players happy are 100% ignored. What's worse is they won't even acknowledge the players concerns-period. Sure they want HTML5 to go through, but lets just let the rest of the game, such as Rogue Crews, etc go to hell while we do that. It is so illogical that its amazing. I think the flat ignoring of players concerns are the worst part. No discussion, no communications, nothing. Quite a few players quit over this SilverStrike Nerf, I know of several and they were PAYING PLAYERS. Yet the best they can do is SLIGHTLY adjust the minimum range? AFTER PEOPLE PAID FOR THIS?? This is their best answer?
Lets get real. This change is not a Nerf. Its much worse.
Old Stats
New Stats
What changed: Old New Half Chain Range: 40 20
Half Damage 70,000 35,000
Larger dead zone near turret: 240 265 (Min Range)
Slower reload time 12 14
You forgot to add that its firing arc was also reduced. IF it was so overpowered I could understand 1 or 2 changes but 5. No; thats just overkill.
I agree 1 or 2 changes and make it the right changes but they didnt even do the right changes the first time. The original nerf didnt fix the problem it still did OP. So basically it made the turret into a niche placement where if u built ur base around it then the defense would always win. Obviously ppl that dont know how to build defenses to this extent wouldnt see the power of it where in it would be considered a huge nerf to those players
One thing that need to be fixed ASAP is increase the max number of buildtokens we can store for praetorians and pegsus (this also include flags), since if we have bought any of the deals for tokens for them we are easily over the max number and any tokens we get from TLC goes to waste.. Alternative would be splitting the tokens in 2 storage slots.. won/redeemed and bought.. or just increase amount we can store quite a bit..
@FrankL_038 - How is this a step in the right direction???? It was the "best" when it was released....a day later they nerf it...damage and range. Now you say that this is a step in the right direction????? Come on!
They give you a three course meal, then take it all away bar one entree....wait a little while, then give you a bread roll, and you are happy with that??? especially if you paid for a three course meal which you got in the first place.
Obviously they didnt test it. But curious did u do any math to how much damage this turret can do? With 8 UAVs the damage it can do to 1 ship is 11.6 million damage. Seeing that a subj has base armor of 12million that basically kills it in 1 reload and that is with the CURRENT UAV not original.
So basically thats giving someone an all you can eat buffet and taking away half of the food on the buffet. The person will still get full...
its no def then the temp if you 4 4 temps in your base in avg you get 2 some time 3 shock waves and just 1 ba take a half a flt and it has a worse arch then uav so maybe you should do the math at best the u uav would keep player sron sniping and or preping down bases like they been doing if anything i thing i lvl the playing feald i mean just about every long range heavy we got sucks all but like 2
oh goody now i can kill enemies in my base with much more ease! #basehittingisdead
yeah...you might actually have to think now when hitting a base, rather than just clicking the back of the base and crossing your fingers. Let's get real, the ONLY stat they altered from the nerf was the min-range increase. The min-range increase made this turret literally useless. They did NOT bring it back to its original stats of 240....they brought it back to 265, which will STILL keep it out of the majority of channels. They made base hitting more interesting and more creative now. But, I guess for some people....#basehittingisdead.
oh goody now i can kill enemies in my base with much more ease! #basehittingisdead
yeah...you might actually have to think now when hitting a base, rather than just clicking the back of the base and crossing your fingers. Let's get real, the ONLY stat they altered from the nerf was the min-range increase. The min-range increase made this turret literally useless. They did NOT bring it back to its original stats of 240....they brought it back to 265, which will STILL keep it out of the majority of channels. They made base hitting more interesting and more creative now. But, I guess for some people....#basehittingisdead.
Yeah well ive seen it personally already. If u have the right base design and 8 uavs it basically 1 shots Subj. It kills preps. It kills dreads. Whats left to hit with? Howlers? 5 Gorgons boom keeps those out. Sure the ppl that dont know how to make a base will get lvled but the top meta players will make the unkillable base and boom itll break pvp hitting. Speculate however u like ive already seen it
I suspect that my post will be deleted like all my others but here goes my rant. I just love how my ticket on the UAV nerf has been ignored and most of my friends have had responses and have been given gold for compensation for their ticket. I dont think I claim the UAV on the first day and I didnt even here of the nerf until a day after it was done so am I S#!$ out of luck on compensation? All the bounty points lost, time moving land tiles/turrets and collecting base parts is worth something isnt it?
I suspect that my post will be deleted like all my others but here goes my rant. I just love how my ticket on the UAV nerf has been ignored and most of my friends have had responses and have been given gold for compensation for their ticket. I dont think I claim the UAV on the first day and I didnt even here of the nerf until a day after it was done so am I S#!$ out of luck on compensation? All the bounty points lost, time moving land tiles/turrets and collecting base parts is worth something isnt it?
They gave "compensation" of 4 3d platform tokens and to be frank thats more than enough for a turret that could have been won for free and put in base with 0 coin. For me the only thing that I did change was use 2 2d ship tokens on a gorgon and im fine with that with how this turret will make base defense. Small price to pay for top tier defense
oh goody now i can kill enemies in my base with much more ease! #basehittingisdead
yeah...you might actually have to think now when hitting a base, rather than just clicking the back of the base and crossing your fingers. Let's get real, the ONLY stat they altered from the nerf was the min-range increase. The min-range increase made this turret literally useless. They did NOT bring it back to its original stats of 240....they brought it back to 265, which will STILL keep it out of the majority of channels. They made base hitting more interesting and more creative now. But, I guess for some people....#basehittingisdead.
Yeah well ive seen it personally already. If u have the right base design and 8 uavs it basically 1 shots Subj. It kills preps. It kills dreads. Whats left to hit with? Howlers? 5 Gorgons boom keeps those out. Sure the ppl that dont know how to make a base will get lvled but the top meta players will make the unkillable base and boom itll break pvp hitting. Speculate however u like ive already seen it
I've seen it in action as well...I've also seen the new proposed 265 range (as opposed to the original 240 range) in action as well....the 265 range will NOT cover the channel; WITHOUT leaving the turrets themselves open to prep. That is why they dropped it down to 265, rather than the original 240.
oh goody now i can kill enemies in my base with much more ease! #basehittingisdead
yeah...you might actually have to think now when hitting a base, rather than just clicking the back of the base and crossing your fingers. Let's get real, the ONLY stat they altered from the nerf was the min-range increase. The min-range increase made this turret literally useless. They did NOT bring it back to its original stats of 240....they brought it back to 265, which will STILL keep it out of the majority of channels. They made base hitting more interesting and more creative now. But, I guess for some people....#basehittingisdead.
Yeah well ive seen it personally already. If u have the right base design and 8 uavs it basically 1 shots Subj. It kills preps. It kills dreads. Whats left to hit with? Howlers? 5 Gorgons boom keeps those out. Sure the ppl that dont know how to make a base will get lvled but the top meta players will make the unkillable base and boom itll break pvp hitting. Speculate however u like ive already seen it
I've seen it in action as well...I've also seen the new proposed 265 range (as opposed to the original 240 range) in action as well....the 265 range will NOT cover the channel; WITHOUT leaving the turrets themselves open to prep. That is why they dropped it down to 265, rather than the original 240.
My turrets arent preppable as it is now with the current 290 range. When the 265 range hits itll make it even more so better for my base
oh goody now i can kill enemies in my base with much more ease! #basehittingisdead
yeah...you might actually have to think now when hitting a base, rather than just clicking the back of the base and crossing your fingers. Let's get real, the ONLY stat they altered from the nerf was the min-range increase. The min-range increase made this turret literally useless. They did NOT bring it back to its original stats of 240....they brought it back to 265, which will STILL keep it out of the majority of channels. They made base hitting more interesting and more creative now. But, I guess for some people....#basehittingisdead.
Yeah well ive seen it personally already. If u have the right base design and 8 uavs it basically 1 shots Subj. It kills preps. It kills dreads. Whats left to hit with? Howlers? 5 Gorgons boom keeps those out. Sure the ppl that dont know how to make a base will get lvled but the top meta players will make the unkillable base and boom itll break pvp hitting. Speculate however u like ive already seen it
I've seen it in action as well...I've also seen the new proposed 265 range (as opposed to the original 240 range) in action as well....the 265 range will NOT cover the channel; WITHOUT leaving the turrets themselves open to prep. That is why they dropped it down to 265, rather than the original 240.
My turrets arent preppable as it is now with the current 290 range. When the 265 range hits itll make it even more so better for my base
yeah...you aren't getting it though....at 240, the turrets were able to cover the channel; which in deed made them very OP. At 265, the turrets will not be able to cover the channel without making them preppable. At 265, you will be able to cover the entrance and a BIT into the channel; which with skill, you can minimize the damage to base fleet. I spent 6 hours in the base planner with range 265 and could NOT come up with a layout where the UAVs had the base fleet in its sights for any longer than the first 10-15 secs of the base hit.
oh goody now i can kill enemies in my base with much more ease! #basehittingisdead
yeah...you might actually have to think now when hitting a base, rather than just clicking the back of the base and crossing your fingers. Let's get real, the ONLY stat they altered from the nerf was the min-range increase. The min-range increase made this turret literally useless. They did NOT bring it back to its original stats of 240....they brought it back to 265, which will STILL keep it out of the majority of channels. They made base hitting more interesting and more creative now. But, I guess for some people....#basehittingisdead.
Yeah well ive seen it personally already. If u have the right base design and 8 uavs it basically 1 shots Subj. It kills preps. It kills dreads. Whats left to hit with? Howlers? 5 Gorgons boom keeps those out. Sure the ppl that dont know how to make a base will get lvled but the top meta players will make the unkillable base and boom itll break pvp hitting. Speculate however u like ive already seen it
I've seen it in action as well...I've also seen the new proposed 265 range (as opposed to the original 240 range) in action as well....the 265 range will NOT cover the channel; WITHOUT leaving the turrets themselves open to prep. That is why they dropped it down to 265, rather than the original 240.
Sardonique come hit my base you won't even get more then 35% thats how broken PvP is , subj will die before killing the gates and howlers they will never get past 5 gorgons, you can't prep as a prep fleet dies in seconds.... i mean come try you know where i am , then after the hit reconsider your thoughts on PvP
Lets get real. This change is not a Nerf. Its much worse.
Old Stats
New Stats
What changed: Old New
Half Chain Range: 40 20
Half Damage 70,000 35,000
Larger dead zone near turret: 240 265
(Min Range)
Slower reload time 12 14
updated should have worded it different
Why should any player participate in any upcoming event if you are going to nerf prizes like your standard practice has become?
@FrankL_038 - How is this a step in the right direction???? It was the "best" when it was released....a day later they nerf it...damage and range. Now you say that this is a step in the right direction????? Come on!
They give you a three course meal, then take it all away bar one entree....wait a little while, then give you a bread roll, and you are happy with that??? especially if you paid for a three course meal which you got in the first place.
So basically thats giving someone an all you can eat buffet and taking away half of the food on the buffet. The person will still get full...
IF it was so overpowered I could understand 1 or 2 changes but 5. No; thats just overkill.
if you 4 4 temps in your base in avg you get 2 some time 3 shock waves
and just 1 ba take a half a flt and it has a worse arch then uav so maybe you should do the math at best the u uav would keep player sron sniping and or preping down bases like they been doing if anything i thing i lvl the playing feald i mean just about every long range heavy we got sucks all but like 2
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I suspect that my post will be deleted like all my others but here goes my rant. I just love how my ticket on the UAV nerf has been ignored and most of my friends have had responses and have been given gold for compensation for their ticket. I dont think I claim the UAV on the first day and I didnt even here of the nerf until a day after it was done so am I S#!$ out of luck on compensation? All the bounty points lost, time moving land tiles/turrets and collecting base parts is worth something isnt it?