9.44 UPDATE DISCUSSION THREAD (FLYING DUTCHMAN)

CM_Ghillie · 28 Oct 2019, 4:56PM

Pirates,

Please discuss everything related to the 9.44 Update here, including the weekly event(s). Thanks!

FFRODO · 28 Oct 2019, 5:07PM

Transferred from the previous [at least] 3 weeks discussions. Can we get some answers on the new armours and their effectiveness (or lack of) please. Further silence can only be viewed as suspicious.

Dreaded · 28 Oct 2019, 6:02PM

Thank you for taking the time to post today Andrew Smith40. In regards to the armor's in question, they have been found to be working as intended.
Happy Sailing and Stay Frosty.

There ya go mate, that's your answer. That's what they'll say.

FFRODO · 28 Oct 2019, 6:37PM

Dont laugh Dreaded but I would actually take that. If it was checked and they are "w.a.i" then I can at least plan my builds and plan my time/coin/repairs around the weeks events. When you see mutiple threads being answered or at least acknowleded and then absolute silence on this, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

I dont expect the game to be perfect and if someone came forward and said look sorry we made a mistake and we need to bump the damage in the fm targets (or any targets) to bring them in line with the business needs, it would suck but at least you could move forward. At the moment I/we are in no mans land.

MozardMT · 28 Oct 2019, 6:55PM

Andrew Smith40 said:

Transferred from the previous [at least] 3 weeks discussions. Can we get some answers on the new armours and their effectiveness (or lack of) please. Further silence can only be viewed as suspicious.

Same question here, are the new Isotope armors working? Because I see no change in repair times

kevin.minch.9 · 28 Oct 2019, 8:05PM

Um, update briefing for 9.44 not up yet. Discuss?

Shapu_the_farm · 28 Oct 2019, 8:52PM

X1F3RGH0S7 said:

Andrew Smith40 said:

Transferred from the previous [at least] 3 weeks discussions. Can we get some answers on the new armours and their effectiveness (or lack of) please. Further silence can only be viewed as suspicious.

Same question here, are the new Isotope armors working? Because I see no change in repair times

No. Thanks for asking.

They provide zero benefit. And in my experience putting them on is detrimental because I could put BETTER, older armors on there that worked but I got sucked into the "Oh, no, they work goodly because they are new har har har!" nonsense.

kixeyeuser_1348793436755_25723_272983525 · 28 Oct 2019, 9:49PM

no 9,44 update to discuss at all I don't think you posted it yet so how can we discuss it

Dan Gibson · 29 Oct 2019, 3:24AM

this "new" assault camp for nems an sats DO we need to have them fully ranked and u3 so we can get thru the usual MASSIVE
damage to get the kits to up grade them to u3............. and no this is not a mistake

ThePirateGamer · 29 Oct 2019, 5:57AM

its going to be the same where you need u3 to do it lol but one can only wish

michaelg21 · 29 Oct 2019, 4:05PM

Ghillie-since we are getting only silence from the Game Designers and Kixeye in general about the Isotope armors NOT WORKING on Praetorians at least, is there any chance you can get them to break their silence on this issue? This is a bit sad they refuse to address this issue. Many of us, including myself have wasted both Gold and Tokens to fit this armor to Praetorians only to find it does NOTHING-ZERO to help them and actually can RAISE REPAIR TIMES because we remove the D7, D6 armors to put them on. Why there is so much silence on issues is hard to understand, but seem to be typical.

Silver Stefaans · 29 Oct 2019, 4:52PM

So with the new FREE fleet a shortage of res is something of the past, you bring back a billion after attacking a base or two. Of course now no-one of the lower levels use their fleet, for one load can boost you several levels lmao.

davec415 · 29 Oct 2019, 5:16PM

what fleets do we need for the flying dutchmen??????????????????????

CM_Ghillie · 29 Oct 2019, 6:24PM

Andrew Smith40 said:

Transferred from the previous [at least] 3 weeks discussions. Can we get some answers on the new armours and their effectiveness (or lack of) please. Further silence can only be viewed as suspicious.

Dreaded said:

Thank you for taking the time to post today Andrew Smith40. In regards to the armor's in question, they have been found to be working as intended.
Happy Sailing and Stay Frosty.

There ya go mate, that's your answer. That's what they'll say.

Andrew Smith40 said:

Dont laugh Dreaded but I would actually take that. If it was checked and they are "w.a.i" then I can at least plan my builds and plan my time/coin/repairs around the weeks events. When you see mutiple threads being answered or at least acknowleded and then absolute silence on this, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

I dont expect the game to be perfect and if someone came forward and said look sorry we made a mistake and we need to bump the damage in the fm targets (or any targets) to bring them in line with the business needs, it would suck but at least you could move forward. At the moment I/we are in no mans land.

What armors are you using on what targets? What do your builds look like? Apologies for the delay, I've been away the last couple weeks. Different Garrison targets are more focussed toward penetrative or explosive damage, so pairing armors with the target type plus the correct CMs will help lower damage. Fully acknowledge that there is no perfect solution, though, as some of the targets make it a bit complicated.

CM_Ghillie · 29 Oct 2019, 6:33PM

davec415 said:

what fleets do we need for the flying dutchmen??????????????????????

Batray/Razortail or Silverfish/Suppressor.

FFRODO · 29 Oct 2019, 6:39PM

CM_Ghillie said:

Andrew Smith40 said:

Transferred from the previous [at least] 3 weeks discussions. Can we get some answers on the new armours and their effectiveness (or lack of) please. Further silence can only be viewed as suspicious.

Dreaded said:

Thank you for taking the time to post today Andrew Smith40. In regards to the armor's in question, they have been found to be working as intended.
Happy Sailing and Stay Frosty.

There ya go mate, that's your answer. That's what they'll say.

Andrew Smith40 said:

Dont laugh Dreaded but I would actually take that. If it was checked and they are "w.a.i" then I can at least plan my builds and plan my time/coin/repairs around the weeks events. When you see mutiple threads being answered or at least acknowleded and then absolute silence on this, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

I dont expect the game to be perfect and if someone came forward and said look sorry we made a mistake and we need to bump the damage in the fm targets (or any targets) to bring them in line with the business needs, it would suck but at least you could move forward. At the moment I/we are in no mans land.

What armors are you using on what targets? What do your builds look like? Apologies for the delay, I've been away the last couple weeks. Different Garrison targets are more focussed toward penetrative or explosive damage, so pairing armors with the target type plus the correct CMs will help lower damage. Fully acknowledge that there is no perfect solution, though, as some of the targets make it a bit complicated.

https://www.kixeye.com/forum/discussion/766774
https://www.kixeye.com/forum/discussion/765956

Comments from thebra1n, michaelg21 john.dean.1291421 (I hope they dont mind me quoiting them) are partcularly relevant and should provide a reasonable starting point. This isnt about me or my build or a specific build its a concensus from a large portion of players across multiple builds, Im noticing it most with the fm targets for the record . Thank you for acknowleding. Its appreciated.

CM_Ghillie · 29 Oct 2019, 6:40PM

michaelg21 said:

Ghillie-since we are getting only silence from the Game Designers and Kixeye in general about the Isotope armors NOT WORKING on Praetorians at least, is there any chance you can get them to break their silence on this issue? This is a bit sad they refuse to address this issue. Many of us, including myself have wasted both Gold and Tokens to fit this armor to Praetorians only to find it does NOTHING-ZERO to help them and actually can RAISE REPAIR TIMES because we remove the D7, D6 armors to put them on. Why there is so much silence on issues is hard to understand, but seem to be typical.

Sorry I didn't see your message until after I responded to a couple qs above. Honestly, there is no easy answer on these questions. I'm chatting with the team about approach, but the short answer is that it depends on the build + armor + target.

HOT-COFFEE · 29 Oct 2019, 6:57PM

Ghillie any news on the contest that you said was going to run ?

FFRODO · 29 Oct 2019, 7:01PM

1 specific example. The same fleet driving a 131 fm target in the same way twice. The second time I put on 1 piece of zx1 on 1 ship which improves that specific ships explosive survival from ~10k - 15k (+50%) and at best that specific ship might have 1 or 2 minutes less damage ~2%. The battle report shows me the same thing twice. I took roughly half explosive and half penetrative damage. Allowing for some variance in each target for RNG Im not seeing the benefits these armours are claiming to have.

mark.matthews.94 · 29 Oct 2019, 7:10PM

CM_Ghillie said:

davec415 said:

what fleets do we need for the flying dutchmen??????????????????????

Batray/Razortail or Silverfish/Suppressor.

Hey guys, I know every event is different, however, last flying dutchman event, the ghost ships fired cannon balls that had MASSIVE splash damage - only the guys that had hyper 30s on their boats had any chance of doing well.

KillerChrome7 · 29 Oct 2019, 10:16PM

Hellos CM_Ghillie,
Grumble, The FM is not listed on the calendar. Is it possible to have the FM listed on the calendar every week the FM is going to run? It would save a bit of time answering if it is running every week.
-Cuttlefish

captain hell · 29 Oct 2019, 10:57PM

KillerChrome7 said:

Hellos CM_Ghillie,
Grumble, The FM is not listed on the calendar. Is it possible to have the FM listed on the calendar every week the FM is going to run? It would save a bit of time answering if it is running every week.
-Cuttlefish

Cycle 1
Begins: Wednesday, October 16th @ 3:00PM PDT
Ends: Wednesday, October 23rd @ 12:00PM PDT

Cycle 2
Begins: Wednesday, October 23rd @ 3:00PM PDT
Ends: Wednesday, October 30th @ 12:00PM PDT

Cycle 3
Begins: Wednesday, October 30th @ 3:00PM PDT
Ends: Wednesday, November 6th @ 12:00PM PDT

Cycle 4
Begins: Wednesday, November 6th @ 3:00PM PDT
Ends: Wednesday, November 13th @ 12:00PM PDT

listed in the October fm briefing

KillerChrome7 · 29 Oct 2019, 11:19PM

captain hell said:

KillerChrome7 said:

Hellos CM_Ghillie,
Grumble, The FM is not listed on the calendar. Is it possible to have the FM listed on the calendar every week the FM is going to run? It would save a bit of time answering if it is running every week.
-Cuttlefish

Cycle 1
Begins: Wednesday, October 16th @ 3:00PM PDT
Ends: Wednesday, October 23rd @ 12:00PM PDT

Cycle 2
Begins: Wednesday, October 23rd @ 3:00PM PDT
Ends: Wednesday, October 30th @ 12:00PM PDT

Cycle 3
Begins: Wednesday, October 30th @ 3:00PM PDT
Ends: Wednesday, November 6th @ 12:00PM PDT

Cycle 4
Begins: Wednesday, November 6th @ 3:00PM PDT
Ends: Wednesday, November 13th @ 12:00PM PDT

listed in the October fm briefing

Yes, I am aware of that.
However, the key part : "The FM is not listed on the calendar"
The FM was listed on the last couple of calendars. Now the calendar is published once a week, and is shared around to many pages, (good information dispersal). The briefing with this list of FM dates is done monthly (good information but, decaying dispersal). Every week where the FM is not listed on calendar, I see a slew of people asking if there is an FM that week. Simply inserting in one sentence into the calendar would remove some players confusion.
-Cuttlefish

carl.wear.3 · 30 Oct 2019, 12:01AM

CM_Ghillie said:

michaelg21 said:

Ghillie-since we are getting only silence from the Game Designers and Kixeye in general about the Isotope armors NOT WORKING on Praetorians at least, is there any chance you can get them to break their silence on this issue? This is a bit sad they refuse to address this issue. Many of us, including myself have wasted both Gold and Tokens to fit this armor to Praetorians only to find it does NOTHING-ZERO to help them and actually can RAISE REPAIR TIMES because we remove the D7, D6 armors to put them on. Why there is so much silence on issues is hard to understand, but seem to be typical.

Sorry I didn't see your message until after I responded to a couple qs above. Honestly, there is no easy answer on these questions. I'm chatting with the team about approach, but the short answer is that it depends on the build + armor + target.

the problem is not our builds its the armours don't work. Players that have ADDED MORE of the ZM-1 and ZX-1 armours to their preatorians have had no reduction in the damage they take in the targets. Even hulls that had no armours to begin with, when they then added the ZM-1 and ZX-1 to their unarmoured hulls the damage has not gone down.

Puppy Power · 30 Oct 2019, 2:00AM

Are the lower level players going to be granted a fleet to do the Flying Dutchman with being they don't have anything to use yet?

mkrebello · 30 Oct 2019, 2:40AM

CM_Ghillie said:

michaelg21 said:

Ghillie-since we are getting only silence from the Game Designers and Kixeye in general about the Isotope armors NOT WORKING on Praetorians at least, is there any chance you can get them to break their silence on this issue? This is a bit sad they refuse to address this issue. Many of us, including myself have wasted both Gold and Tokens to fit this armor to Praetorians only to find it does NOTHING-ZERO to help them and actually can RAISE REPAIR TIMES because we remove the D7, D6 armors to put them on. Why there is so much silence on issues is hard to understand, but seem to be typical.

Sorry I didn't see your message until after I responded to a couple qs above. Honestly, there is no easy answer on these questions. I'm chatting with the team about approach, but the short answer is that it depends on the build + armor + target.

Doesnt make a difference who the CM is, typical Kixeye response......seriously?......smh

Eddie7 · 30 Oct 2019, 3:08AM

CM_Ghillie said:

michaelg21 said:

Ghillie-since we are getting only silence from the Game Designers and Kixeye in general about the Isotope armors NOT WORKING on Praetorians at least, is there any chance you can get them to break their silence on this issue? This is a bit sad they refuse to address this issue. Many of us, including myself have wasted both Gold and Tokens to fit this armor to Praetorians only to find it does NOTHING-ZERO to help them and actually can RAISE REPAIR TIMES because we remove the D7, D6 armors to put them on. Why there is so much silence on issues is hard to understand, but seem to be typical.

Sorry I didn't see your message until after I responded to a couple qs above. Honestly, there is no easy answer on these questions. I'm chatting with the team about approach, but the short answer is that it depends on the build + armor + target.

Ridiculous

Gustav Ahr · 30 Oct 2019, 3:25AM

michaelg21 said:

Ghillie-since we are getting only silence from the Game Designers and Kixeye in general about the Isotope armors NOT WORKING on Praetorians at least, is there any chance you can get them to break their silence on this issue? This is a bit sad they refuse to address this issue. Many of us, including myself have wasted both Gold and Tokens to fit this armor to Praetorians only to find it does NOTHING-ZERO to help them and actually can RAISE REPAIR TIMES because we remove the D7, D6 armors to put them on. Why there is so much silence on issues is hard to understand, but seem to be typical.

the armors made my praes a lot better idk what everyone is complaining about

princess941 · 30 Oct 2019, 3:52AM

Hmmm new targets looks like high damage for everything now. Nothing is fun in the game now

Sputnik001 · 30 Oct 2019, 5:29AM

What have you done to the targeting now Kix???

The number 5 ship was the one that use to get all the damage, now it is the flag....

Any heads up on that or what???

Thought communication was going to improve somewhat, guess you fooled again.

Corp_Hellrazor · 30 Oct 2019, 7:42AM

So, if you don't have Silverfish, you are basically relegated to hitting the lowest value target ?

Nice work of alienating some of your players......AGAIN !

BRAVO !!!

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9.44 UPDATE DISCUSSION THREAD (FLYING DUTCHMAN)