I looked at a build in the ship yard with the lowered mount, nuke 3 and CL4 - brought up my read defense to 98% and the Ball to 97% - damage was over 2 million per hit. I, for one, am going to use all three.

Shadow527 said:

warren.fee.3 said:

Shrikes move underwater. Can afford to be slow.
Negative ballisitc range doesnt affect shrike
The positives on the blueprint all stack with all my other specials on my shrike designs.

Definately going on shrikes.
Hyper30 lowered canon2 cl4 and 4 ferrous. New launcher special and old special from the hydra . And siege battery 4.

3 limited stalker launchers on each 5 as i have 15 and 3 normal shrike launchers.

Thats my design for completion after vxp suicide ranking and on paper it looks like an auto target beast of a tank.
It drives like a ship on auto so might as well design it to auto

No Engine?

Dont really need it as it gets a 100% speed boost underwater.   Build code : eNqrVipPTSzIzytWsoo2NDM10sFFxOooJRbl5heBFBobm5npoBJA6eKC1OTMxBywAgtDSx1jS3NzIGEBYhmZAAlLAx1DU0tLoNKM0pwcTxclKxMjI0MdpdSKgtSiEqfSzJwUJas0oAmptQB5digt

Also, don't forget + 50% evade bonus on Lower Cannon Mount III, that some big defence bonuses there.... 

As per all my above posts...

Ive used all normal launchers incase most of the community doest have at least 15 limited launchers. If you do add 3 to each ship and the resistances go from 97 to 98.

Reasoning behind this design...

slow no engine tanky shrike design. dont forget it gets 100% ( double speed) underwater when its moving and cant be hit by flamers or any other turrets while on the move as mod confirmed there is no detection.
i build it for evade and resistance and splash damage reduction when it surfaces and makes itself a target.
it doesnt have to run around the target on the surface at high speed to outrun the flamers.
it can slowly slink into range pop up fire then sink beneath the waves and creep to next target
It functions like auto ship.. move stop fire and repeat... so might as well design it to be the auto ship..absorb lots of damage as its a sitting duck when its firing.. reduce flamer splash by 30% and reduce damage by 97/98% and avoid up to 66% of incoming bullets i hope.

Shipbuilder code..

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warren.fee.3 said:

As per all my above posts...

Ive used all normal launchers incase most of the community doest have at least 15 limited launchers. If you do add 3 to each ship and the resistances go from 97 to 98.

Reasoning behind this design...

slow no engine tanky shrike design. dont forget it gets 100% ( double speed) underwater when its moving and cant be hit by flamers or any other turrets while on the move as mod confirmed there is no detection.
i build it for evade and resistance and splash damage reduction when it surfaces and makes itself a target.
it doesnt have to run around the target on the surface at high speed to outrun the flamers.
it can slowly slink into range pop up fire then sink beneath the waves and creep to next target
It functions like auto ship.. move stop fire and repeat... so might as well design it to be the auto ship..absorb lots of damage as its a sitting duck when its firing.. reduce flamer splash by 30% and reduce damage by 97/98% and avoid up to 66% of incoming bullets i hope.

Shipbuilder code..

eNqrVkqtKEgtKnEqzcxJUbJKS8wpTtVRyijNyfF0UbIyMTIy1FEqLkhNzgRKKFlFG1samegYW1pY6hiaWlrqGFsYAglLSwMgYW4eq6OUWJSbXwRWaGxmpoNKAKXLUxML8vNA8oZmpkY6uIjYWgDaNCgt

I'm doing something similar, but I'm going to plan to pilot it. Then I can surface where I want, avoiding the throwers, and hopefully destroy them with shockwave damage from another turret. .... Maybe

@Spider Retired said:
Dopey_ARANG said:

May be useful on Shrikes for extra def when they stop, surface and fire, but looks like rubbish for on Erads imo. Im trying to speed mine up a bit to outrun throwers, not slow down and get my face scorched.

Why would anyone use a ballistic special on a luncher hull with lunchers on? Another problem is -40 speed, that would disqualify it in most of the current targets.

Regards.

... because we want 50% evade and 35% to both relevant resists for literally no downside?

Our range doesn't suffer and Shrikes do not actually care about combat speed

@Capt. Phantom said:
Hey Everybody! Hydra's just got buffed up to a whole new level, good thing! Here's the updated build, hope it helps!

That's not a good build. LCM2 does not suit hydras at all because it slows it down drastically. You want the combat speed.

I understand if you want to keep the limited charged armor on for Legion Colony targets, but for max efficiency do all C1-CR.

Siege Capacitor is not the capacitor to use. Aegis is the way to go. Less flechette damage increases the amount of shockwaves you can get off a single turret, which will help damage anything around it more efficiently. It also beefs up resistance more than anything else, without compromising speed. You don't need to outrange throwers if you can outrun the shots.

Lady-Jessica said:

The Qing said:

@Capt. Phantom said:
Hey Everybody! Hydra's just got buffed up to a whole new level, good thing! Here's the updated build, hope it helps!

That's not a good build. LCM2 does not suit hydras at all because it slows it down drastically. You want the combat speed.

I understand if you want to keep the limited charged armor on for Legion Colony targets, but for max efficiency do all C1-CR.

Siege Capacitor is not the capacitor to use. Aegis is the way to go. Less flechette damage increases the amount of shockwaves you can get off a single turret, which will help damage anything around it more efficiently. It also beefs up resistance more than anything else, without compromising speed. You don't need to outrange throwers if you can outrun the shots.

Actually to outrange the throwers you don't want speed.

You should not build to outrange the throwers. It takes too much effort for not much reward in terms of damage reduction. One lag spike and all your efforts are for nought. You can just as easily blitz past the pyro turret without taking damage, letting it empty its salvo then swinging back to kill it once it has expended all its ammunition. It's more consistent, easier to do, takes less time, and is more resistant to lag.

@Templar614 said:
So there was a hotfix to correct the stacking with Hyper30 and Lowered Cannon Mount 2.

They can now both be equipped to the same ship once again.

TY Templar.

Thanks for passing this up and feeding back
Much appreciated

My build is viable once again.
Yay