Raid 104 and 106 - which boat

Digits_Brigade
Digits_Brigade
Skilled Warrior
Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 534
Can someone from the team give us a heads up as to which fleet (Razor or Batray) is meant for which target.
  • Carlos_DaPoof
    Carlos_DaPoof
    Master Tactician
    Joined Mar 2018 Posts: 2,106
    lol....that's funny right there....
    " I see no solid discussion or argument. Just whining and name calling. You pose no reason or logic to back up your position and can't articulate a reason why "
  • Storm_Troopers
    Storm_Troopers
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 519
    Why do you care ?
    Both ships are "Supposed" to be effective for both targets.

    Let your community help you, or you will keep sinking your own game.
  • HOT-COFFEE
    HOT-COFFEE
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jul 2015 Posts: 442
    if you have coins  both hulls work great in both targets

  • dballard601
    dballard601
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 790
    edited 31 Oct 2018, 9:03PM
    My guess is the lower target is for the bloody bats.
  • DoomsdayRebel_X
    DoomsdayRebel_X
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 1,970

    @dballard601 said:
    My guess is the lower target is for the **** bats.

    Yet Bat owners can do so much with that hull. How is your Raid Razors? That's about all they are good for. Bats is the Skill Hull, the other is a hulk smash , that's about all its got.

  • Carlo DeNauw
    Carlo DeNauw
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 4,036
    Each have a bias. Given past history, whatever the previous raid's pattern was, likely will be repeated. So the higher target numbers likely match up as would the lower, so, most likely 100 --->104 and 102 ---> 106.
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  • dballard601
    dballard601
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    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 790

    @dballard601 said:
    My guess is the lower target is for the **** bats.

    Yet Bat owners can do so much with that hull. How is your Raid Razors? That's about all they are good for. Bats is the Skill Hull, the other is a hulk smash , that's about all its got.

    Actually i have the Bats, and found the Razors were outperforming them on the Dutchman targets.  Where do you see the Bats outperforming the RT- just curious.
  • Storm_Troopers
    Storm_Troopers
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 519
    edited 1 Nov 2018, 10:11AM

    @dballard601 said:
    My guess is the lower target is for the **** bats.

    Yet Bat owners can do so much with that hull. How is your Raid Razors? That's about all they are good for. Bats is the Skill Hull, the other is a hulk smash , that's about all its got.

    Actually i have the Bats, and found the Razors were outperforming them on the Dutchman targets.  Where do you see the Bats outperforming the RT- just curious.
    I used Bats in Dutchman ended up in global 10. No coin aswell.
    "Oh nice for you Storm".
    It does depend on your build, your driving, the time you are wasting on the game, rogue crews.
    So which ever fleet you will use, Bat or Razor, you will always have your own thoughts on the ships.
    In my opinion Razors were nice in Dutchmans, but couldn't do as much targets as bats do without repairing, due to range of the weapon.
    In my case, I could do over 100 lvl 13 without Repairing. (I didn't say I wasn't taking damage though, just found a way to extend my life expectancy)
    Only with bats + brennus.
    But that is just MY opinion. If my razor fleet was fully fitted, maybe my opinion would be different.

    Also, Where do you see the Bats Outperforming the RT, Sub Sector Skirmish Core ?
    Unless they fixed it. But my Brennus was doing much better than a RT fleet.

    Let your community help you, or you will keep sinking your own game.
  • bort
    bort
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 8,257
    if you have coins  both hulls work great in both targets

    you dont need coins to have both built by now with a little planning ahead.
  • DoomsdayRebel_X
    DoomsdayRebel_X
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 1,970

    @dballard601 said:
    My guess is the lower target is for the **** bats.

    Yet Bat owners can do so much with that hull. How is your Raid Razors? That's about all they are good for. Bats is the Skill Hull, the other is a hulk smash , that's about all its got.

    Actually i have the Bats, and found the Razors were outperforming them on the Dutchman targets.  Where do you see the Bats outperforming the RT- just curious.
    Bats could do the Flying Dutchman for almost flawless repairs with the right setup.  Mine mostly were insta-repairs on that event.  RT's struggle in Scourge Blockades and SSRBs.  Bats have a couple few more uses.... so far.
  • dballard601
    dballard601
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 790
    Ya, well I wish I had the Hyper 30's for the Bats, I think that would have helped in the Dutchman cause I was taking some splash damage- probably my driving didn't help, was getting more of the hang of it after several tries. The Bats are doing quite well in the 104's so far, haven't tried the 106's how are you all doing in the 106's with Bats?  Probably more Reaper Subs in there if it was like the last raid. 
  • Typhoon_Tim
    Typhoon_Tim
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 106
    if you're smart, you'll use bats in the 104 and razors in the 106....still seeing one ship take 10X the damage as the rest of them....typical kix BS.

  • dballard601
    dballard601
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    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 790
    edited 1 Nov 2018, 7:14PM
    if you're smart, you'll use bats in the 104 and razors in the 106....still seeing one ship take 10X the damage as the rest of them....typical kix BS.

    True, I tried a 106 and took about twice the damage as the 104= the additional 5 mil was kinda nice, but definitely not worth doing again.  Ya, kix often seems to target the flag I had to insta repair it to remain in the battle- is typical kix as you say...
  • Alexa the BAE
    Alexa the BAE
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 921
    1h8 repair in 104
    3h repair in 106
    there is bias against bat ray in these targets, brenus flag has least damage in 104, nearly dead in 106
    "a computer once beat me at chess but it was no match for me at kick boxing"
  • Carlo DeNauw
    Carlo DeNauw
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 4,036
    Weird. I'm seeing such a wide range of damages. Players with razor fleets are reporting 3-5 hrs damage for the set driving while others are reporting 3.5- death autoing. I wish we knew what the tweak was that saw the damage go up. May help us understand the targets better, but there is a very wide gap in damages this time around.
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  • filmbryan1
    filmbryan1
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 5,870

    @dballard601 said:
    My guess is the lower target is for the **** bats.

    Yet Bat owners can do so much with that hull. How is your Raid Razors? That's about all they are good for. Bats is the Skill Hull, the other is a hulk smash , that's about all its got.

    Actually i have the Bats, and found the Razors were outperforming them on the Dutchman targets.  Where do you see the Bats outperforming the RT- just curious.
    That was my first impression with that event, but after toying around with driving they ended up being just as effective. They also walk through the ssrbs on auto.
    You will only receive my scorn from this point forward
  • LongShAanks
    LongShAanks
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 555
    Can someone from the team give us a heads up as to which fleet (Razor or Batray) is meant for which target.
    Easy to work out yourself....the one with more interdics (smart torps) are the batray target - the other has more subs which is the razor target....... 
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