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My take on the removing of EXP gained thru resources

KILA_B1200
KILA_B1200
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Joined May 2013 Posts: 327
So they completely removed gaining EXP thru gathering resources. Apparently the issue is with the bonus loot. I asked storm chaser, then remove the EXP with the bonus loot. He said it is not feasible. This is why I call BS on that remark. In an OS 60 , you get the resources, with the loot running you get the 1000% percent with what you kill in the base. Lets see, you dont get the bonus loot with the additional 65K of each you get. So yes it is feasible to separate. Get rid of Master Loot or get rid of the EXP you gain. Your reply to me was and I quote: "what do you want your level to indicate?
how much metal and oil you've harvested or how strong your base is?"   Part of War Commander is leveling up, so why do you want to stagnate that. My base is about maxxed. All Kixeye was concerned is the the lower levels level advancing too quickly. SO you worry about the lower levels and forget about all the veteran players. Fix something that wasnt broke. Get rid of the Master Loot is what you need to fix.

  • KILA_B1200
    KILA_B1200
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    Joined May 2013 Posts: 327
    Oh and if you cry about the master loot and you have to get more resources....thats easy.....Get resources by learning hot to use your toons, not by how much resources you can get from an OP
  • nametagg0
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    KILA_B1200 said:
    Oh and if you cry about the master loot and you have to get more resources....thats easy.....Get resources by learning hot to use your toons, not by how much resources you can get from an OP
    i think you missed the point of that argument : p
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  • Dietowildtimes
    Dietowildtimes
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    Joined Nov 2015 Posts: 345
    How it is now I will be a lvk45 forever now. The 2 reasons why I play is how fast can I get to lvl50 and the friends I have made. So whats the point of playing now?
  • Jim93843
    Jim93843
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    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 2,783
    the is60 gave xp for only the 15m ..never for the 65million bonus.
    i haven't run the boost yet.but was the 1000% (x10) bonus making the base worth 150+65 (215million) or was it making it worth 150+650 (800million)?
    xp is 50 =1 conversion, but none given for the bonus
  • KILA_B1200
    KILA_B1200
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    Joined May 2013 Posts: 327
    I mentioned to them, they can still giove the normal XP like the loot was not there, but they said not feasible or possible. But if they can give 1000% for the what you take in the base and not for the bonus, then it is feasible they can separate the 2

  • Seekanddestroyer
    Seekanddestroyer
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    edited 14 Sep 2018, 10:25PM
    In every single video game that exists the player gets to level up, it is the player gratification, for time and energy spent playing the game, it is representative of the player mastery of the game.  Every video game recognises this human aspect of gaming, and that's why we have levels, so friends can brag to each other "I'm higher level than you".  Since we don't get xp from resources anymore, and since we have to be online when every upgrade finishes to get he xp, it basically means no more leveling up.  Who has ever played a video game where you don't level up?
  • Dietowildtimes
    Dietowildtimes
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    Seekanddestroyer said:
    In every single video game that exists the player gets to level up, it is the player gratification, for time and energy spent playing the game, it is representative of the player mastery of the game.  Every video game recognises this human aspect of gaming, and that's why we have levels, so friends can brag to each other "I'm higher level than you".  Since we don't get xp from resources anymore, and since we have to be online when every upgrade finishes to get he xp, it basically means no more leveling up.  Who has ever played a video game where you don't level up?
    I so agree. Even a game like GTA 5 has lvls.
  • Dash Riprock
    Dash Riprock
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    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 41
    Agree with Seek above, why play the game if progress is stifled.....
  • it will fitz
    it will fitz
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    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 3,520
    edited 14 Sep 2018, 11:50PM
    I am happy for this change, if it was up to me, I would stay a lvl 46 for ever, but still be able to upgrade my base as much as I want ...

    and if Kixeye wants to drop my base to a lvl 44 and not change the base, just the Number ... they are welcome to change the number
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  • Cosmic Destructor
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    KILA_B1200 said:
    So they completely removed gaining EXP thru gathering resources. Apparently the issue is with the bonus loot. I asked storm chaser, then remove the EXP with the bonus loot. He said it is not feasible. This is why I call BS on that remark. In an OS 60 , you get the resources, with the loot running you get the 1000% percent with what you kill in the base. Lets see, you dont get the bonus loot with the additional 65K of each you get. So yes it is feasible to separate. Get rid of Master Loot or get rid of the EXP you gain. Your reply to me was and I quote: "what do you want your level to indicate?
    how much metal and oil you've harvested or how strong your base is?"   Part of War Commander is leveling up, so why do you want to stagnate that. My base is about maxxed. All Kixeye was concerned is the the lower levels level advancing too quickly. SO you worry about the lower levels and forget about all the veteran players. Fix something that wasnt broke. Get rid of the Master Loot is what you need to fix.

    The opinion of majority counts (If ever at all). A lot of players don't care about levels, and a select few crying about it won't change anything.
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  • Avireous_WC
    Avireous_WC
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    Seekanddestroyer said:
    In every single video game that exists the player gets to level up, it is the player gratification, for time and energy spent playing the game, it is representative of the player mastery of the game.  Every video game recognises this human aspect of gaming, and that's why we have levels, so friends can brag to each other "I'm higher level than you".  Since we don't get xp from resources anymore, and since we have to be online when every upgrade finishes to get he xp, it basically means no more leveling up.  Who has ever played a video game where you don't level up?
    I do not want to start a fight,but in WC's heyday,yes levels do matter since they represent skill the player have.Now...levels doesn't actually mean anything,Its primarily because 10M+ hp units exists.The only thing that reflects your skill or you call "Representative" is units.Strong army and skilled plays can beat anyone.Also,Levels now has a huge impact in PvP seasons such a Warpath,because the higher level you are=the bigger target you become.So,you rather be a low level to become a smaller target,or be a high level to be the big target.
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  • kixeyeuser_67884217_27870_7293357
    kixeyeuser_67884217_27870_7293357
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    KIXEYE today with master loot active i spent and took over  billion resources doing 30 35 40 why my experience to lvl UP a slvl not growing ^? please fix that

  • donald.brooks.39
    donald.brooks.39
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    Joined Jun 2013 Posts: 53
    Come on Kixeye, you can do better then this.  Fix the XP or do away with base levels and use another system to rank our bases.  Just taking away the xp  makes it worse.  Those players that never want to level up it's cool but for all who do we need a better system.
  • AlbertCP
    AlbertCP
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    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 127
    I prefer to be low level with strong base and strong units than a high level with weak base and weak units. I don't mind staying at level 44 or even demoted to level 40 as long as I have strong base and units.
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  • JNewbie
    JNewbie
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    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 1,625
    So I have been in game since it started 7 or 8 years now been getting abused with this xp for rank this whole time I am about 1/2 way between level 49 and 50 what part of xp has ranked me up do you think it fair for old timer to have been punished with this xp for colecting resources, vs new player who will gain nothing .
  • ktaaf12
    ktaaf12
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    Joined Sep 2018 Posts: 1

    What about the honor formula? That was based on players level?

  • Yasu fumi
    Yasu fumi
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 69
    Remove the XP is the most stupid thing to do, in this case why there's the level number still on our base if you dont allow us to gain level? are we need to stay at the level we have now? if that's what Kixeye decision then i think you make a very bad move. and since level is no longer a matter in this game then remove all the xp point and the level on every base, because that's no longer the mean for anything, because it wont surprise you one day if you enter a lvl 35 base with full upgrade during PVP. fix the problem you create it and dont blame to player.
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  • CyberToad
    CyberToad
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    Joined Mar 2015 Posts: 5,985
    UPDATE

    There has been a change in the XP for resource equation.   Here is how it should work now.

    1. If you do not use the Master Loot, you will get XP for gathering resources.
    2. If you do use the Master Loot, you will not get XP for gathering resources.

    This is a trade off for the player to decide.  Do they want the XP or do they want more resources.  You must decide which is better for you.

    REF: https://www.kixeye.com/forum/discussion/745234

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  • DOUBLE DOG
    DOUBLE DOG
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    CyberToad said:
    UPDATE

    There has been a change in the XP for resource equation.   Here is how it should work now.

    1. If you do not use the Master Loot, you will get XP for gathering resources.
    2. If you do use the Master Loot, you will not get XP for gathering resources.

    This is a trade off for the player to decide.  Do they want the XP or do they want more resources.  You must decide which is better for you.

    REF: https://www.kixeye.com/forum/discussion/745234
    This seems fair.
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