I see "passthrough" I see "over damage" I see "special abilities" I see separate damage "deflections"
What I also see is an increasingly over-complicated game (in an apparent reversal of GD Raiken's pledge to reduce such - imagine that?) with monthly flip flops that are requiring a constant series of refits (thank God we asked for the conquest yard, eh guys?) along with an obvious decrease in building/refitting assistance (generic tokens) while having to try and pin down two other fleets (FM and raid) at the same time that we are going to experience a change in a chore target (base parts) while the player base is still reeling and confused by being kicked in the teeth by the difficulty of the last raid and the monumental tone deafness of our "community manager" (the guy who is supposed to be on our side, right?)
Heck, we now even have to wade through 6 different threads just to find out what's happening this week!
Not complaining here.....Nope, not me!
more like classifying......
" I see no solid discussion or argument. Just whining and name calling. You pose no reason or logic to back up your position and can't articulate a reason why "
You need to learn to math I think. With all the ballistic bonus turrets in and a few maxed, you're not gonna make it past the first turn in any decent base.
Okay walk me through the math, just how much damage gets through with these new armors?
Ho ho ho guys, the CM has come out with a changed attitude, a steely resolve. You ******** hurt his feelings and I am sure he is typing with the hammer in one hand.
The update is a fail in as far as KIX addressed our concerns. It is clear that Kix is telling us to suck it up or quit. Well guess we all have to make up out own minds. Let us see how deep the addiction runs. LOL
Ok, I'm indeed annoyed, I spent a year out of game, have no skirmish fleets, wanted hydras and have to settle for buccs. Not only that I have to build skys for next raid, hope to get manticore, build a siege fleet as I only have 1 ic currently fitted fully, and I'm expected to do everything with no help......this needs to be adjusted heavily CM Rampage, your driving players to the fence with no intentions of wanting to keep players around.
notice no weapons adding extra pen deflection yet.
cmon mate, you been around as long as me. how could you slip up like that
i was highlighting the armor only, not a full build :P
But that is a fallacious argument Warren. You've been around as long as I, you KNOW you can't load the armors like that b/c you open to far too much other vulnerabilities. If we were further along in the releases then, yea, you may have a good use for a hull like that, but not right now. Even if you stuck all NW's on the hull it won't come close to stopping a maxed EX2, it'll be dead with 1-2 hits.
"I'll admit- I avoid the forums, it's where motivation goes to die." -Unknown Game Developer... or is it?
On the VXP target for the weekend. Should I be reading this as the only payout will be IF you destroy the target and then you get three 10k vxp tokens ONLY for Defender class hulls? Or will we still be able to use a crew to get 3x the vxp on ANY hull, plus the tokens if we destroy the target????
Would be helpful if the new scourge siege targets (for base parts) showed in the locator. Then again, the old ones aren't showing either. And yes, they have spawned.
notice no weapons adding extra pen deflection yet.
cmon mate, you been around as long as me. how could you slip up like that
i was highlighting the armor only, not a full build :P
But that is a fallacious argument Warren. You've been around as long as I, you KNOW you can't load the armors like that b/c you open to far too much other vulnerabilities. If we were further along in the releases then, yea, you may have a good use for a hull like that, but not right now. Even if you stuck all NW's on the hull it won't come close to stopping a maxed EX2, it'll be dead with 1-2 hits.
i know but theres bound to be some that will try. yeah my fully loaded 5 fs on my 4 howie6, 4 exe2 island but maxed 6 bal and 8 pen turret base will chew this for breakfast, but theres nothing stopping someone trying i suppose. but to be fair i run 1 of of the other 2 armors and 3 mc plates with the weapons topping deflections up on my 2 lvl 486 fleets.
i'm just having a bad day, i'm still effed with kix for ignoring the community issues the last 5 days so i'm just finding fault at every little thing they do right now
Well, here we are going into another week that nothing has been done to repair anything. Another week Kix refuses to listen to the players feed back. Another week Kix shuts things down for supposedly maintenance, does nothing, but instead, focus is set on adding new hurdles for us to jump through. Another week of kix catering to the high rollers and coiners. Another week of nothing but excuses why things arent working. Another week of lies and cons to get us to coin. These guys ought to be politicians. They run the game just like the Govt. Ignore anything and everthing and focus only on making money. They have taken the fun out of the game. Pages and pages of comments, but Kix dont listen to any of it.
would be nice chams will be allowed as was part of the siege raids , i did siege raid with chams fleet , so now need to build the buccs for the new targets because i got chams only , more fleets to build, when the slow down is going to happen ??? was a complete lie , we have only 1 shipyard and one limited shipyard , so let us use the chams in the siege tlcs , i got 1 bucc partial build and everything to build them , just dont have the time to build them now , as we have fm and raid fleets to build plus other chores
You need to learn to math I think. With all the ballistic bonus turrets in and a few maxed, you're not gonna make it past the first turn in any decent base.
Okay walk me through the math, just how much damage gets through with these new armors?
I never did say useless, nerf just means reduced effectiveness sometimes that means useless. My comment was more so to point of changing what people are expected when they get their stuff when the raid just ended. And that this is a repeat of when howie first came out.
Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster.
Why shouldn't Kix cater to those that pay to keep this game alive? If you spend big bucks on something, don't you wan't to be catered to by the seller? Who says they aren't listening to the feedback? There is a difference between listening and actually doing what is asked. The majority of the player feedback can fall under three main headers (like this one): make the game easier, make the game cheaper & fix the glitches. They certainly aren't ever going to do the first two, and I think the reason that we don't see any action on the third is because they don't know how. I don't really agree that Kix lies or cons players into coining. I think they rely on the knee-jerk effect that seems so prevalent among players. The majority of players will spend before they think. I do it, you do it, everyone does it in the race to have something out first. I think the number of times we have actually been misled or intentionally lied to as opposed to making a bad knee-jerk decision is a very small ratio. If they have taken fun out of your game, you should find another. That action stands a much better chance of sending your message than ranting in here does.
" I see no solid discussion or argument. Just whining and name calling. You pose no reason or logic to back up your position and can't articulate a reason why "
@alex.stanham said:
would be nice chams will be allowed as was part of the siege raids , i did siege raid with chams fleet , so now need to build the buccs for the new targets because i got chams only , more fleets to build, when the slow down is going to happen ??? was a complete lie , we have only 1 shipyard and one limited shipyard , so let us use the chams in the siege tlcs , i got 1 bucc partial build and everything to build them , just dont have the time to build them now , as we have fm and raid fleets to build plus other chores
You will be able to use them on the map targets, nothing saying that they are disallowed.
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LOL okay to be fair he warned us lmao.
The base parts that can now be used for upgrades on new turrets is welcome to a lot of us, but what about the guys who had to pay for it? Guess they stayed out all night.
I see "passthrough"
I see "over damage"
I see "special abilities"
I see separate damage "deflections"
What I also see is an increasingly over-complicated game (in an apparent reversal of GD Raiken's pledge to reduce such - imagine that?) with monthly flip flops that are requiring a constant series of refits (thank God we asked for the conquest yard, eh guys?) along with an obvious decrease in building/refitting assistance (generic tokens) while having to try and pin down two other fleets (FM and raid) at the same time that we are going to experience a change in a chore target (base parts) while the player base is still reeling and confused by being kicked in the teeth by the difficulty of the last raid and the monumental tone deafness of our "community manager" (the guy who is supposed to be on our side, right?)
Heck, we now even have to wade through 6 different threads just to find out what's happening this week!
Well, here we are going into another week that nothing has been done to repair anything. Another week Kix refuses to listen to the players feed back. Another week Kix shuts things down for supposedly maintenance, does nothing, but instead, focus is set on adding new hurdles for us to jump through. Another week of kix catering to the high rollers and coiners. Another week of nothing but excuses why things arent working. Another week of lies and cons to get us to coin. These guys ought to be politicians. They run the game just like the Govt. Ignore anything and everthing and focus only on making money. They have taken the fun out of the game. Pages and pages of comments, but Kix dont listen to any of it.
Maintenance has nothing to do with the game or code... It is Amazon doing the server maintenance. If youre going to complain get it right at least.
I see "passthrough"
I see "over damage"
I see "special abilities"
I see separate damage "deflections"
What I also see is an increasingly over-complicated game (in an apparent reversal of GD Raiken's pledge to reduce such - imagine that?) with monthly flip flops that are requiring a constant series of refits (thank God we asked for the conquest yard, eh guys?) along with an obvious decrease in building/refitting assistance (generic tokens) while having to try and pin down two other fleets (FM and raid) at the same time that we are going to experience a change in a chore target (base parts) while the player base is still reeling and confused by being kicked in the teeth by the difficulty of the last raid and the monumental tone deafness of our "community manager" (the guy who is supposed to be on our side, right?)
Heck, we now even have to wade through 6 different threads just to find out what's happening this week!
Not complaining here.....Nope, not me!
more like classifying......
^Example of an MSC.
-Unknown Game Developer... or is it?
The update is a fail in as far as KIX addressed our concerns. It is clear that Kix is telling us to suck it up or quit. Well guess we all have to make up out own minds. Let us see how deep the addiction runs. LOL
Ok, I'm indeed annoyed, I spent a year out of game, have no skirmish fleets, wanted hydras and have to settle for buccs. Not only that I have to build skys for next raid, hope to get manticore, build a siege fleet as I only have 1 ic currently fitted fully, and I'm expected to do everything with no help......this needs to be adjusted heavily CM Rampage, your driving players to the fence with no intentions of wanting to keep players around.
-Unknown Game Developer... or is it?
i know but theres bound to be some that will try.
yeah my fully loaded 5 fs on my 4 howie6, 4 exe2 island but maxed 6 bal and 8 pen turret base will chew this for breakfast, but theres nothing stopping someone trying i suppose.
but to be fair i run 1 of of the other 2 armors and 3 mc plates with the weapons topping deflections up on my 2 lvl 486 fleets.
i'm just having a bad day, i'm still effed with kix for ignoring the community issues the last 5 days so i'm just finding fault at every little thing they do right now
Who says they aren't listening to the feedback? There is a difference between listening and actually doing what is asked. The majority of the player feedback can fall under three main headers (like this one): make the game easier, make the game cheaper & fix the glitches. They certainly aren't ever going to do the first two, and I think the reason that we don't see any action on the third is because they don't know how.
I don't really agree that Kix lies or cons players into coining. I think they rely on the knee-jerk effect that seems so prevalent among players. The majority of players will spend before they think. I do it, you do it, everyone does it in the race to have something out first. I think the number of times we have actually been misled or intentionally lied to as opposed to making a bad knee-jerk decision is a very small ratio.
If they have taken fun out of your game, you should find another. That action stands a much better chance of sending your message than ranting in here does.
You will be able to use them on the map targets, nothing saying that they are disallowed.
The base parts that can now be used for upgrades on new turrets is welcome to a lot of us, but what about the guys who had to pay for it? Guess they stayed out all night.
Nice quote CM R, fitting
Can't see much wrong there..