FM / Update Discussion 11/1

  • tosa.andras
    tosa.andras
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 5
    you got to take the rhino damage down. full gridirons fleet charged armours everithing, could do 2 113 with them. now i can do half a 115 and he rhinos get me not the base. Or increase the point pay out, this way i can even take the tokens......
  • Nathaniel_K63
    Nathaniel_K63
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Apr 2015 Posts: 192
    why has my last post been deleted/ disappeared .. on how to fix sort this problem out ? ( JUST GET RID OF THE SHIPS IN THE 115) and also my ships repairs keep stopping ?
      4 TIMES NOW I HAVE LOGGED IN AND MY SHIPS ARE NOT REPAIRING ? 



    removing the ships from the 115 only fixes one of the problems and that being damage.   the other just as important problem which you have overlooked is the point payout. The point payout needs to be increased as well.  It's the seat time to do the FM that is just as big an issue as the damage.
    Let's not forget the fact that prize costs are NOT set in stone. Kix can change the points requirement at a whim, say when a new item gets put on the list that is CRITICAL for new content, they can lock it behind a 'premium' price, just like they do with new 'premium priced' raid hulls.

    Or forget that tokens, which were readily available before, are now time sensitive. AND randomized.

    Basically, everything that was a set, known factor, now no longer is.
    You'll be spending more time (and preferably money) to obtain a points value that can be changed at a dime, while token rewards are all up to RNG, and that's assuming you are fully up-to-date on the FM content and don't have to rush to get the second redemption for tokens before it times out.
  • tigerexp
    tigerexp
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Sep 2017 Posts: 100
    you got to take the rhino damage down. full gridirons fleet charged armours everithing, could do 2 113 with them. now i can do half a 115 and he rhinos get me not the base. Or increase the point pay out, this way i can even take the tokens......
    From the way the FM is shaping up its, IB or Zelos fleets to do the 115 now ..
  • BurnedOut
    BurnedOut
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 628
    STEVE.H said:
    i thought this was battle pirates not battle chores , oops got that wrong, it;s battle ( DONT'T GIVE A MONkEY WHAT PLAYER'S SAY ) PIRATES.
    becarefull they put u in jail..
  • smellsfishy
    smellsfishy
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jun 2015 Posts: 611
    edited 5 Nov 2017, 1:26PM
    Did anyone consider that Kix is trying to bring the game to an end due to all the lost interest?  Back in the day this game was packed with people playing... comms were always dancing.  People didn't mind spending 10 to 20 bucks a month on a raid for the best hull on the water.  But the game has changed significantly since those days.  I think now with so few players Kix has to make big changes to up the ante to afford to keep this game alive for so few players.  We are witnessing the end of an era I think.  This much I know, I am done making monthly deposits to a game that will soon be gone.  Good luck to all in the raid and may the winds be at your backs.... 
    Certainly looks like game closing strategy.
    Yes, I totally agree. 

    The tax benefits of declaring bankruptcy for a business are different from an individual.  They would get to walk away from all creditors.

    Why would they want to close?  Because Flash ends in 2020.  Adobe will not do any security patches means all browsers will stop supporting it.   So the game comes to a hard stop in just over 2 years.
  • kixeyeuser_1396430768710_100008111316190
    kixeyeuser_1396430768710_100008111316190
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Oct 2014 Posts: 239
    kixeye are hoping to get money out of this are not going to get it. i have seen a few people leave as they cannot do the Raid because the targets were hard. the only way to keep up is, to have the right tech and stuff by the hull raid to get the next raid cycle toys before that cycle. now that is helping some but not others.
    having the good points stuck behind a campaign means helping others in our alliances will not help.

    I and all the guys in the alliance tell the lower levels to do the fm to get the better toys to go further. but 6 months on is a kick in the teeth. a lot of players used the icebreakers and then scrapped them in favour of the mono and zelos fleets.

    the 115 is tough but doable. the only problem is that the zoe's rhinos in the targets are stupidly high in damage. it almost as if it has the ability to bypass your defenses as if they weren't there
  • Sea Surpent
    Sea Surpent
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 753
    Need more cheap charged armour to start with!
    We need the ones We got to work, I'm noticing Damage without charge dropping a bit ! 
  • Zork13266
    Zork13266
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Oct 2016 Posts: 146
    kixeye are hoping to get money out of this are not going to get it. i have seen a few people leave as they cannot do the Raid because the targets were hard. the only way to keep up is, to have the right tech and stuff by the hull raid to get the next raid cycle toys before that cycle. now that is helping some but not others.
    having the good points stuck behind a campaign means helping others in our alliances will not help.

    I and all the guys in the alliance tell the lower levels to do the fm to get the better toys to go further. but 6 months on is a kick in the teeth. a lot of players used the icebreakers and then scrapped them in favour of the mono and zelos fleets.

    the 115 is tough but doable. the only problem is that the zoe's rhinos in the targets are stupidly high in damage. it almost as if it has the ability to bypass your defenses as if they weren't there
    Think the missiles are ridiculously high in Flak evade... Blades @ 80% perhaps... 4x Phal IV barely shoot any of them down...
  • bart.mattingly.7
    bart.mattingly.7
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 53
    WOW I'm Disappointed in new Weekly! It Sucks! You folks at kixeye really Love Pissing Everyone off that Plays! all i hear in comms is how your Screwing us all again. And you are, these 115's Suck Hella. Seems all you do is try and make everyone build a new Fleet so they cant catch up or want to Quit. I cant use my tokens that i have. The only button that seems to want to work is the coin Button. Im not a Fool! Not coining these upgrades either. Guess well see what happens after Raid. I guess that will be the pull the Battle pirates plug or stay with your crap button for a lil while Longer. But I See me hitting the **** Kixeye Button Soon because your all a little too money Hungry for me to want to stay and play. Just from last upgrades we didn't think you guys could Screw us anymore, dam were we wrong! That will be an ongoing Event Cycle for you guys!
  • mask.kauffmann
    mask.kauffmann
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 54
    Zork13266 said:
    kixeye are hoping to get money out of this are not going to get it. i have seen a few people leave as they cannot do the Raid because the targets were hard. the only way to keep up is, to have the right tech and stuff by the hull raid to get the next raid cycle toys before that cycle. now that is helping some but not others.
    having the good points stuck behind a campaign means helping others in our alliances will not help.

    I and all the guys in the alliance tell the lower levels to do the fm to get the better toys to go further. but 6 months on is a kick in the teeth. a lot of players used the icebreakers and then scrapped them in favour of the mono and zelos fleets.

    the 115 is tough but doable. the only problem is that the zoe's rhinos in the targets are stupidly high in damage. it almost as if it has the ability to bypass your defenses as if they weren't there
    Think the missiles are ridiculously high in Flak evade... Blades @ 80% perhaps... 4x Phal IV barely shoot any of them down...
    thats kix blades,make it 150% or more
  • tamdhu
    tamdhu
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jun 2011 Posts: 334
    edited 5 Nov 2017, 1:59PM
    well I could refit my ships with token's I have to do the 115's for reasonable repair but the big question is can i be bothered to Hit 10-15 targs a week for FM for less tokens ( which means i have less time to build pve ships for the new 3 month raid cycle with ofc the reduced build times we got when it changed from 4 )  , do TLC's ,collect U ( which no doubt will be getting harder to come by soon ) , collect **** , collect base parts  and maybe somewhere fit in actually playing the game some time in between ofc bounty and the raid .......... let me think and that's without base repairs , damage to fleets due to lag etc , hmmmm let me think some more 
  • unknown72
    unknown72
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 64
    well i want to thank cm and kix cause of them not listening i found a new hobby for my raid money dont get me wrong im no whale but i been spending 100 to 150 a month for quite some time now but since they were unable to listen to us the customers that play this every day i had decided not to coin this coming raid and bought a drone to torment my wifes dog instead much more entertaining for my money than grinding out what they have done to the fm you all want change you want them to listen go find something else to do this coming raid theyll get the hint
  • Drax
    Drax
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,729
    Whats with the Jail!
    your picture is so offensive it needs locking up ;)
    ...
  • A game
    A game
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 955
    Josh1 said:
    I can only speak for myself and say after being caught up on the old FM and getting the full tokens really helped.  It actually encouraged me to spend.  With getting the full tokens I could get more ships built to participate in the raids and work on pvp.  With the new class system if you dont have the right ships you pretty much cant do anything worth while in the raids.  By getting the tokens from the FM I am able to play the raids to get more ships.  Now with the new FM system and less tokens, more grind, and more damage its less encouraging for me because now shipyards will be even more backlogged.  With the shipyard being more backlogged I am almost put in the mind set of why bother winning more ships. I wont coin ship builds due to the cost but I am willing to coin repairs in raids.  Now that Im not able to get as many ships out Im less likely to coin repairs because why bother winning ships I wont have time to build.  Sorry if this doesn't make since but its my feelings for what its worth.  
    Just to add to your comment---The FM should not feel like or be a full time job that consumes all our time.
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  • GrumpyReign
    GrumpyReign
    Master Tactician
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 2,360
    FishBite said:
    Did anyone consider that Kix is trying to bring the game to an end due to all the lost interest?  Back in the day this game was packed with people playing... comms were always dancing.  People didn't mind spending 10 to 20 bucks a month on a raid for the best hull on the water.  But the game has changed significantly since those days.  I think now with so few players Kix has to make big changes to up the ante to afford to keep this game alive for so few players.  We are witnessing the end of an era I think.  This much I know, I am done making monthly deposits to a game that will soon be gone.  Good luck to all in the raid and may the winds be at your backs.... 
    Certainly looks like game closing strategy.
    Yes, I totally agree. 

    The tax benefits of declaring bankruptcy for a business are different from an individual.  They would get to walk away from all creditors.

    Why would they want to close?  Because Flash ends in 2020.  Adobe will not do any security patches means all browsers will stop supporting it.   So the game comes to a hard stop in just over 2 years.
    to what ends, though? why not just pull support like everyone else? it's not as if there's an llc holding bp.. it's owned outright by kix.
    I can feel you judging me. That's palpable. But, hey, I never said I was the hero of this story.
  • smellsfishy
    smellsfishy
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jun 2015 Posts: 611
    edited 5 Nov 2017, 2:32PM
    FishBite said:
    Did anyone consider that Kix is trying to bring the game to an end due to all the lost interest?  Back in the day this game was packed with people playing... comms were always dancing.  People didn't mind spending 10 to 20 bucks a month on a raid for the best hull on the water.  But the game has changed significantly since those days.  I think now with so few players Kix has to make big changes to up the ante to afford to keep this game alive for so few players.  We are witnessing the end of an era I think.  This much I know, I am done making monthly deposits to a game that will soon be gone.  Good luck to all in the raid and may the winds be at your backs.... 
    Certainly looks like game closing strategy.
    Yes, I totally agree. 

    The tax benefits of declaring bankruptcy for a business are different from an individual.  They would get to walk away from all creditors.

    Why would they want to close?  Because Flash ends in 2020.  Adobe will not do any security patches means all browsers will stop supporting it.   So the game comes to a hard stop in just over 2 years.
    to what ends, though? why not just pull support like everyone else? it's not as if there's an llc holding bp.. it's owned outright by kix.
    Because there will be no security patches for Flash.  The reason why flash is being abandoned is that it is full of security holes.  

    Flash isn't "owned" by kix, they licence it from Adobe.  They could continue to use it but no browser will allow you to run it.  Even now you have to give your browser an exception to run it only if you trust the site.

    Never run flash from a site you don't trust.  If you do, you are asking for trouble.

    Just google flash 2020

    New games use HTML5 which is more secure.  But it would be a total rewrite to port over and kix mentioned in a post they wouldn't be doing that. 
  • tu_kiff_la_sodomie
    tu_kiff_la_sodomie
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2015 Posts: 9
    I asked a lot of players who managed to see the trunk of the pack 5 and all responded to me having had 3 days of fleet 
    building so and it is really possible to have 9 days or would it be a new kixeye scam...
  • tu_kiff_la_sodomie
    tu_kiff_la_sodomie
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2015 Posts: 9
    i asked a lot of players who managed to see the trunk of the pack 5 and all responded to me having had 3 days of fleet building so and it is really possible to have 9 days or would it be a new kixeye scam ???.....
  • Templar614
    Templar614
    Moderator
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 14,553
    edited 5 Nov 2017, 2:41PM
    I asked a lot of players who managed to see the trunk of the pack 5 and all responded to me having had 3 days of fleet 
    building so and it is really possible to have 9 days or would it be a new kixeye scam...
    You are guaranteed to receive 3 days.

    The most you can win is 9 days, if you are lucky.

    I believe CM Major Rampage said you could win either 3, 4, or 9 days.
    • 2 Day + 1 Day
    • 2 Day + 2 Day
    • 2 Day + 7 Day

    With the random draw, the 9 day winnings will likely be few and far between.
  • Rpr Specialist Pls
    Rpr Specialist Pls
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Jan 2015 Posts: 1,720
    101 pages. Is this now the most popular change but in a bad way? They have all week next week and 2 days the following week to fix it.

    Simple fix would be to change the targets back and adjust the points to be the same amount of work as before. That is all it will take to resolve the issues players have. Not everyone have the fleets to do the 113s for instant repairs. And even less have the fleets AND time to do the 115s.
    Image result for i quit meme
  • suce_ma_queue
    suce_ma_queue
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2015 Posts: 4
    i asked a lot of players who managed to see the trunk of the pack 5 and all responded to me having had 3 days of fleet building so and it is really possible to have 9 days or would it be a new kixeye scam ???.....
  • Rpr Specialist Pls
    Rpr Specialist Pls
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Jan 2015 Posts: 1,720
    I asked a lot of players who managed to see the trunk of the pack 5 and all responded to me having had 3 days of fleet 
    building so and it is really possible to have 9 days or would it be a new kixeye scam...
    You are guaranteed to receive 3 days.

    The most you can win is 9 days, if you are lucky.

    I believe CM Major Rampage said you could win either 3, 4, or 9 days.
    • 2 Day + 1 Day
    • 2 Day + 2 Day
    • 2 Day + 7 Day

    With the random draw, the 9 day winnings will likely be few and far between.
    The extra token can be a 1 day, 3 day, or 7 day.
    Image result for i quit meme
  • Templar614
    Templar614
    Moderator
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 14,553
    I asked a lot of players who managed to see the trunk of the pack 5 and all responded to me having had 3 days of fleet 
    building so and it is really possible to have 9 days or would it be a new kixeye scam...
    You are guaranteed to receive 3 days.

    The most you can win is 9 days, if you are lucky.

    I believe CM Major Rampage said you could win either 3, 4, or 9 days.
    • 2 Day + 1 Day
    • 2 Day + 2 Day
    • 2 Day + 7 Day

    With the random draw, the 9 day winnings will likely be few and far between.
    The extra token can be a 1 day, 3 day, or 7 day.
    Where did you see the 3 day token at?

    I copied those numbers from the last post I saw about it. But the values have changed more than a couple times, so it wouldn't surprise me.
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