BOUNTY SEASON 2 DISCUSSION QUESTION

  • John1975
    John1975
    Master Tactician
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 2,318
    Will research and building continue or be stopped for the repairs?
    Last time it was only the ship builds that continued while your base was flat.
    Now the main question is: will players continue receive bounty with flat bases? Or no more passive play?
    Coincidentally that very question was answered in the second bullet point of the Bounty overview thread. I would suggest reading through it.

    True that this will force players to go in base and start repairs to get there grant.

    But, and yes there is always a but, no mention of any control for players doin map repair and hitting bases non stop til they get there secured mark while forgoing any bounty production/grant except at the last second to reach there goals. Those players kept there bases dead and didnt care about bounty production, and wont care about the grant.

    Hence, exploitable. And im sure many will who can coin on the map non stop til they reach there goals. Hence again an issue with bounty availability and ultimatly balance between players.

    Hence, the team hasnt corrected the biggest problem in this. The only way to resolve this is to make every building auto repairs wether you log or not. This would force those players to coin there repairs or lose what they gain after a certain amount of time after op repairs.
    Map repairs is not a problem. As long as they're eventually forced to repair their base - its fine.
    Like i said, this situation is not resolved.

    They can still stay on the map, get there secured bounty (which they cant lose) by hitting base or map targets, repair the base while it fully secured, start all over again till there next goal. Remember, you cant steal bounty if the OP is dead.

    Map repair is an issue if you dont have to go in your base and start repairs. And dont let me go into certain technique used to make sure you never have to refresh. 

    Auto repair of base is the only solution i can see outside of removing map repair which they wont do, too lucrative.
    All they have to do to solve that is Pay out for base defense. How you expect someone to spend 12 coins to repair Guard then spend 12-15 gold repairing the base and get absolutely nothing. O nada zilch.  Yep I think they will leave the base dead and use coin to just smash stuff.  Pay for base defense I bet you see all bases fully repaired to get that 100-200 bounty for fails.  To top it off anyone that does hit you you cant hit them back and get anything so they come along fail in your base cost you 15-30 gold and you get nothing????  Ha ya no thanks you can keep that. 
    BadMoFo RYFG TTMX Level 97
  • WAR-GAMES
    WAR-GAMES
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Apr 2013 Posts: 430
    edited 5 Oct 2017, 6:09AM
    I'm still pissed about the last bounty we had I spent coin to get 2 Courage which I thought  would help my base come to find that they die just like all me other hulls do. ranking them sucked nothing to hit to rank up fast VXP weekend was a big let down for me. Hitting 100 with 1 sub and courage was like 10 coin to repair running a silver salty was a waste because the time it took me to run to base and replace the sub and coin courage and send it back took all my time up on salty. Kixeye needs to come up with a way to rank them with very little damage so we can get them rank... seems like the VXP 100 was made for the new subs from last raid. players seem to get them ranked up fast/ This game has turned into a BIG MONEY PIT it's got to a point where i really don't care to play if everytime i turn around i've got to spend a few hundred dollars to play Kixeye has way to much new stuff in the game now. And don't seem to care if the game is fixed or not. My dock is still showing on my long ship repair that it shows it just has a few minute to go in repair and when i stop it the repair jumps to over half way.  kixeye says the repair and build time has been reduced I don't see it seem like there is more. 17 hour on Phoenix what kind or reduce is that 34 coin thats not reduced thats BS
  • Wyvern The PinkiePie
    Wyvern The PinkiePie
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 3,759
    After last time, I'm just gonna say leave me out of this rubbish. The Rage and its stuff look appealing, but is it really worth getting roasted again and again with tons of other things going on that I can (basically must) direct my attention to? Sorry, but like everyone else said, this Bounty season is doomed to fail horribly.
  • richard.watts.581
    richard.watts.581
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 150
    upside radon slinger i missed in last raid and new missile should be achievable new prizes will be beyond me so ill just go for the new stuff. Also remember to keep fleet on map so you can pop bubble and start generating bounty again without having to repair base (when your op is dead no one can get points from you)
  • richard.watts.581
    richard.watts.581
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 150
    Just an intersting aside would it be classed as cheating if you purposely 100% any smaller players from a friendly alliance (they do the same for your players) in order that you can give them a few hours protection without them lossing any bounty ? 
  • bort
    bort
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 8,257
    John1975 said:
    Will research and building continue or be stopped for the repairs?
    Last time it was only the ship builds that continued while your base was flat.
    Now the main question is: will players continue receive bounty with flat bases? Or no more passive play?
    Coincidentally that very question was answered in the second bullet point of the Bounty overview thread. I would suggest reading through it.

    True that this will force players to go in base and start repairs to get there grant.

    But, and yes there is always a but, no mention of any control for players doin map repair and hitting bases non stop til they get there secured mark while forgoing any bounty production/grant except at the last second to reach there goals. Those players kept there bases dead and didnt care about bounty production, and wont care about the grant.

    Hence, exploitable. And im sure many will who can coin on the map non stop til they reach there goals. Hence again an issue with bounty availability and ultimatly balance between players.

    Hence, the team hasnt corrected the biggest problem in this. The only way to resolve this is to make every building auto repairs wether you log or not. This would force those players to coin there repairs or lose what they gain after a certain amount of time after op repairs.
    Map repairs is not a problem. As long as they're eventually forced to repair their base - its fine.
    Like i said, this situation is not resolved.

    They can still stay on the map, get there secured bounty (which they cant lose) by hitting base or map targets, repair the base while it fully secured, start all over again till there next goal. Remember, you cant steal bounty if the OP is dead.

    Map repair is an issue if you dont have to go in your base and start repairs. And dont let me go into certain technique used to make sure you never have to refresh. 

    Auto repair of base is the only solution i can see outside of removing map repair which they wont do, too lucrative.
    All they have to do to solve that is Pay out for base defense. How you expect someone to spend 12 coins to repair Guard then spend 12-15 gold repairing the base and get absolutely nothing. O nada zilch.  Yep I think they will leave the base dead and use coin to just smash stuff.  Pay for base defense I bet you see all bases fully repaired to get that 100-200 bounty for fails.  To top it off anyone that does hit you you cant hit them back and get anything so they come along fail in your base cost you 15-30 gold and you get nothing????  Ha ya no thanks you can keep that. 
    dont you get points just for logging in every 4 hours? for nothing?
  • bort
    bort
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 8,257
    Will shipyard continue building like it did last bounty even when destroyed? 
    was there an answer for this? its kind of one of the key reasons to do the bounty event .....
  • Janske
    Janske
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 115
    bort said:
    Will shipyard continue building like it did last bounty even when destroyed? 
    was there an answer for this? its kind of one of the key reasons to do the bounty event .....
    stil not answerd , looking also for an answer on it.
    Jans
  • Milo-Ant
    Milo-Ant
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Oct 2017 Posts: 1,172
    Another comment Rampage is this Twinblade hull and missile. Are you serious? Is this for real? This new hull is so badly overpowered that it isn't even fun. Constantly you have claimed again and again to slow the power creep yet you don't-you just double down and multiply it. Just like it's description-it tears through bldgs like paper. How is this fun to the player on the receiving end? Only the mega coiners will even have the hull. Yes I know you want to satisfy the millionaires that play this game. But it appears you are just shutting everyone else out.


    unfortunately its not the millionaires I'm bothered about.


    It's those that act like they are millionaires

  • The StruthTruth
    The StruthTruth
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 263
    how much hp does a OP have to have to be classified as destroyed.........if i kill an op that has 500 health points does that count or does the OP need to be at 100% health  if it needs to be 100% the event is already a bust  as last event i rarely encounterd a repaired base
    !!!!
  • Ramanujadasa
    Ramanujadasa
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 50
    Dear moderators,
    during last bounty tournament we had ship building continuing even when the base is hit and not able to be repaired. Does this feature available for this bounty tournament as well.

    Mods kindly answer.

  • d.scott.hewitt
    d.scott.hewitt
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 3,179
    Dear moderators,
    during last bounty tournament we had ship building continuing even when the base is hit and not able to be repaired. Does this feature available for this bounty tournament as well.

    Mods kindly answer.

    Doesn't the Shipyard repair in under five minutes?  So, can be insta-Repaired?


    Scott



    There 10 types of people. Those who understand binary and those who don't.
  • phil_g
    phil_g
    Potential Threat
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 80

    Think he means last bounty ship builds continued while sy was dead so if you hadn't got back on to rep u didn't lose build time. Not seen it mentioned if it still the case this time

  • Ramanujadasa
    Ramanujadasa
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 50
    yes phil the same. you got it right.
  • PenguinPants
    PenguinPants
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Aug 2015 Posts: 1,572
    how much hp does a OP have to have to be classified as destroyed.........if i kill an op that has 500 health points does that count or does the OP need to be at 100% health  if it needs to be 100% the event is already a bust  as last event i rarely encounterd a repaired base
    !!!!
    If OP has 1 hp and you kill it you get credit for "destroying" it.
  • REDBEARD478
    REDBEARD478
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 248
    CM RAMPAGE SAID:
    IMPORTANT NOTE: It is still possible for another player to hit a base listed in the locator as your fleet is travelling to it. Thus, it may be the case that your target is flattened on arrival. Unfortunately, your only option is to look for another target.

    ...lmao, what kind of obviousness is this? 

    maybe the CM should have went with.. IMPORTANT NOTE: closing your eyes whilst playing battle pirates will cause you to stop seeing the colourful peculiar shapes known as boats, unfortunately your only option at this point is to open them again, to resume seeing the magical colourful boat shapes on the screen. To summarise, if everything suddenly goes dark, you should not begin screaming in terror and flailing your arms wildly in a desperate panic,  you have not gone blind as suspected, you simply have your eyes closed and should seek to open them again.
  • sk1rmisher
    sk1rmisher
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 225
    Longer shield or Half base repair would be good. Reduced cost is stupid.
  • akkisigg
    akkisigg
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jul 2015 Posts: 513
    edited 5 Oct 2017, 3:57PM
    Has there really been no official or even semi official response regarding the confirmation of whether our shipyards will continue to function while dead if we opt in? Players can only assume based on last bounty (which there have been changes from with this one) that its the same and the SY will continue to function while dead so the short bubble isn't an issue to build times, but assumption just wont cut it for myself and many others on this issue, not when we cant opt out when we find out otherwise. 

    I'm good fighting an uphill battle, I'm good with all the challenges and restrictions placed on players during bounty, I'm really good with having an actual reason to pvp outside of bragging rights. But if the SY works like normal once opted in and those hours start to stack up while I'm at work, all the other stuff that seems OK gets a lot less so and the whole ordeal just doesn't feel worth it.
    "Fun" is subjective. What's fun for you may be dull for another. When you apply your subjective notion of "fun" onto another as an objective fact, you've set the standard that the only opinion that matters is your own and those kinds of people aren't much fun to be around.
  • Mila Conor
    Mila Conor
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined May 2015 Posts: 214
    just got hit, clicked repair, all usual but new shipyard - it says it has 10s remaining on its repair but its stuck like that for ages, losing precious build time ...

    Kix pls advise ...
  • Smash-and-bash-603
    Smash-and-bash-603
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2015 Posts: 63
    why the hell cant you at least make it so that every building after getting flattened start of with half health when hitting repair
    shenanigans I am calling it right now its all lies and slander
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    yes ships continue to build when shipyard is dead
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    Passed up the issue with the conquest shipyard not repairing.
  • Janske
    Janske
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 115
    Passed up the issue with the conquest shipyard not repairing.
    can you also pass up the question if ships will keep building during the bounty, even when you cant login to repair the shipyard, there is stil not an answer.

    Jans
  • christine.smith.967422
    christine.smith.967422
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 62
    Can I opt out once I opt in ? Within seconds of opting in a level 126 fleet smashed my level 95 base, and the bubble lasts less than the time to repair my guard fleet. Not as good at the last Bounty where you at least had a base defence aspect to it as well.  Agree with much of the valid points raised earlier in this thread.
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    just got hit, clicked repair, all usual but new shipyard - it says it has 10s remaining on its repair but its stuck like that for ages, losing precious build time ...

    Kix pls advise ...
    I passed it along, did it fix itself with a refresh? 
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    Janske said:
    Passed up the issue with the conquest shipyard not repairing.
    can you also pass up the question if ships will keep building during the bounty, even when you cant login to repair the shipyard, there is stil not an answer.

    I answered that in this thread too :) They do keep building while the shipyard is dead.
  • CM Major_Rampage
    CM Major_Rampage
    KIXEYE Community Manager
    Joined Jul 2017 Posts: 1,257
    Can I opt out once I opt in ? Within seconds of opting in a level 126 fleet smashed my level 95 base, and the bubble lasts less than the time to repair my guard fleet. Not as good at the last Bounty where you at least had a base defence aspect to it as well.  Agree with much of the valid points raised earlier in this thread.
    You will not be able to opt out of Bounty once you opt in.
    If you have technical questions, please submit a ticket here.
    Having trouble submitting a ticket? Try this link.
    Not sure about the rules
  • TheOctopus
    TheOctopus
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Dec 2016 Posts: 1,350
    Can I opt out once I opt in ? Within seconds of opting in a level 126 fleet smashed my level 95 base, and the bubble lasts less than the time to repair my guard fleet. Not as good at the last Bounty where you at least had a base defence aspect to it as well.  Agree with much of the valid points raised earlier in this thread.
    You will not be able to opt out of Bounty once you opt in.
    For which exact reason, could you please tell the devs to remove the Bounty activation icon from the dock screen, like, now? Players accidentally got drawn into this mess by this little trick last time around, and the same stands to happen again now.
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