Official July Event Discussion

  • Shapu_the_farm
    Shapu_the_farm
    Master Tactician
    Joined Sep 2015 Posts: 2,051

    @leonvdburgh said:
    Shapu_the_farm said:

    @stephen.bell.9212 said:

    I have lost two Rhino fleets in seconds on the Deep Freeze campaign and received just 70 points. Once again hardly scratched the paint on the lowest tier...sooo frustrating....and pointless. How about some achievable targets?

    Deep Freeze is a garrison target. Rhinos are a very bad bill choice (it even says Garrison on the campaign page).

    Some did the 81 with rhinos.

    The targets are not identical to the raid. The Deep Freeze Elite, for example, uses a modified 113 and a modified 112.

  • MikeHuntHurtz
    MikeHuntHurtz
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 706
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
    Raid is not even 24 hours old. Worse case that is all you lost time wise. If the tier pays out 1 million points per completion now and you can do a set every hour. That is some good points for 0 coin and I will have a video of a Blade Apollo fleet doing the targets here in a moment.
  • sprinter23
    sprinter23
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 77
    wow... a day and a half into the raid and we are at 13 pages already. I think that's a new record!

    Again, just kill what you can and when you're out-tech'd, say goodbye and do something else. Here are a few alternatives

    High powered rocketry
    Radio Control airplanes, cars, boats
    Video Gaming (XBox, PSX)
    Drag Racing (sat nites are pretty cool)
    Dirt Track racing (always looking for sponsors)
    Buy a house
    Go to college
    Work while at work (right?)
    Train for a marathon
    Restore the 69 chevelle
    Travel the planet

    Cool thing is I've done all but 2 of the above... I'll still play some but participating at my former level is now done. My $$ are best spent elsewhere

    later
    me
  • Youngman300
    Youngman300
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 869
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
    Raid is not even 24 hours old. Worse case that is all you lost time wise. If the tier pays out 1 million points per completion now and you can do a set every hour. That is some good points for 0 coin and I will have a video of a Blade Apollo fleet doing the targets here in a moment.
    That is great. But, I don't have apollos built. In another month when my pheonix fleet is completed, I won't need apollos. I fell in to a gap, as a returning player, where my only assault fleet that is built and ranked is Rhinos (or Frosty/V2). 

    So, what are us gappers supposed to do?
    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.

  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
    Raid is not even 24 hours old. Worse case that is all you lost time wise. If the tier pays out 1 million points per completion now and you can do a set every hour. That is some good points for 0 coin and I will have a video of a Blade Apollo fleet doing the targets here in a moment.
    That is great. But, I don't have apollos built. In another month when my pheonix fleet is completed, I won't need apollos. I fell in to a gap, as a returning player, where my only assault fleet that is built and ranked is Rhinos (or Frosty/V2). 

    So, what are us gappers supposed to do?
    use rhinos with a punisher CM Tank :)
  • Youngman300
    Youngman300
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 869
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
    Raid is not even 24 hours old. Worse case that is all you lost time wise. If the tier pays out 1 million points per completion now and you can do a set every hour. That is some good points for 0 coin and I will have a video of a Blade Apollo fleet doing the targets here in a moment.
    That is great. But, I don't have apollos built. In another month when my pheonix fleet is completed, I won't need apollos. I fell in to a gap, as a returning player, where my only assault fleet that is built and ranked is Rhinos (or Frosty/V2). 

    So, what are us gappers supposed to do?
    use rhinos with a punisher CM Tank :)
    Don't have a punisher CM tank. I have a Zelos CM tank - which I have paired with my rhinos - and I found it to be less than successful. Not trying to be contrary - Actually looking to do something in this raid - and willing to put a few coins in as required. As it sits, to get the locked store open would cost me $200.00 - which is far more than a little coin.  - Im open for alternatives. But, I refuse to spend that kind of money when I own the two best non-flag hulls for this raid, and simply did not have time to build a functional fleet before having more content thrown at me. (Started my Phoenixes the last day of the last raid) 
    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.

  • CaptainI
    CaptainI
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2014 Posts: 507
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
    Raid is not even 24 hours old. Worse case that is all you lost time wise. If the tier pays out 1 million points per completion now and you can do a set every hour. That is some good points for 0 coin and I will have a video of a Blade Apollo fleet doing the targets here in a moment.
    That is great. But, I don't have apollos built. In another month when my pheonix fleet is completed, I won't need apollos. I fell in to a gap, as a returning player, where my only assault fleet that is built and ranked is Rhinos (or Frosty/V2). 

    So, what are us gappers supposed to do?
    use rhinos with a punisher CM Tank :)
    Don't have a punisher CM tank. I have a Zelos CM tank - which I have paired with my rhinos - and I found it to be less than successful. Not trying to be contrary - Actually looking to do something in this raid - and willing to put a few coins in as required. As it sits, to get the locked store open would cost me $200.00 - which is far more than a little coin.  - Im open for alternatives. But, I refuse to spend that kind of money when I own the two best non-flag hulls for this raid, and simply did not have time to build a functional fleet before having more content thrown at me. (Started my Phoenixes the last day of the last raid) 
    If you get your Phoenix fully built and ranked for the next round you will do well. I am currently doing the 100 for just under 2 hours damage so coining repair means 1 coin per million - I am happy with that 
  • Youngman300
    Youngman300
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 869
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
    Raid is not even 24 hours old. Worse case that is all you lost time wise. If the tier pays out 1 million points per completion now and you can do a set every hour. That is some good points for 0 coin and I will have a video of a Blade Apollo fleet doing the targets here in a moment.
    That is great. But, I don't have apollos built. In another month when my pheonix fleet is completed, I won't need apollos. I fell in to a gap, as a returning player, where my only assault fleet that is built and ranked is Rhinos (or Frosty/V2). 

    So, what are us gappers supposed to do?
    use rhinos with a punisher CM Tank :)
    Don't have a punisher CM tank. I have a Zelos CM tank - which I have paired with my rhinos - and I found it to be less than successful. Not trying to be contrary - Actually looking to do something in this raid - and willing to put a few coins in as required. As it sits, to get the locked store open would cost me $200.00 - which is far more than a little coin.  - Im open for alternatives. But, I refuse to spend that kind of money when I own the two best non-flag hulls for this raid, and simply did not have time to build a functional fleet before having more content thrown at me. (Started my Phoenixes the last day of the last raid) 
    If you get your Phoenix fully built and ranked for the next round you will do well. I am currently doing the 100 for just under 2 hours damage so coining repair means 1 coin per million - I am happy with that 
    But in the mean time I miss out on all three flag ships, charged armors, and the UAV special I couldn't get from the TLC. Seems fair? I know that I have the tools to do it in the next raid. But that is not much comfort seeing people pass me on the leaderboard in this raid. Seeing as how I put the **** time and coins in towards getting top end tech in the last raid. 
    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.

  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    Here is the 60s with a fleet of Apollos and blades. Build is shown in the video so pause and then make a screenshot or note of what i have. Nothing is newer tech.


  • BIBDK
    BIBDK
    Potential Threat
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 33
    ryda4lif3 said:
    Do you people at Kixeye even play the same **** game as us paying customers do???? 3 fully fitted Phoenix's minus expensive charged armor die before even a 63 is fully dead.

    Horrible raid. I have 3 phoenix not skulled. Ya I get it KIX you need the armor great but don't make the dam things 12 mil a pop. If they don't lower the damage I'm done with the raid I was going to try and get more armor but no way I can with the damage I'm receiving. Way to go KIX get more people to leave this 6 year vet is about done to. Don't mind paying to play but when u raise the bar like this this man isn't reaching for it. Good Luck to rest in their raid.
     
  • MikeHuntHurtz
    MikeHuntHurtz
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 706
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
    Raid is not even 24 hours old. Worse case that is all you lost time wise. If the tier pays out 1 million points per completion now and you can do a set every hour. That is some good points for 0 coin and I will have a video of a Blade Apollo fleet doing the targets here in a moment.


    24 hrs of raid done yes so 25% 1/4 in a broken unplayable state...  if they fixed it now it would be an entire day late

    one full day less for players to complete..

    however nothing has been fixed or changed so what on earth r u talking about?




    dude we cant even do a single 60s target.. 0 points not 0 coin.. go on with ur video it doesn't matter to anyone else unless you have the mod privledges and buffs.. they mean nothing to us regular normal players.. I hit one of the targets I could actually kill a 45

    I got 5 k pts for it so no they did not take away the hit down penalty..... I think we should forget about level and g to a class or fleet system if u hit the targets with phoenix or skyfire.. u get penalized.. If u hit it with something else u can get all the pts.. that sounds fair right... no one wants things for free we want to be able to play the raid.. if it means gridnings away at 90k at a time so be it.. but that is not an option for any of us.. the raid is broken.. hitting 3 targwta in camp for 140 k is doable but then they take it away after 10 times.. so there us no way for a regular old player to even play much less compete or try to complete the event.  all restrictions need to be removed.. that is is still not enough,, but at least it would give ppl a road that they can attempt to travel and complete raid if they so wanted to spend the chair time.



  • Xcalubur
    Xcalubur
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 1,655
    why they made the targets so very small ? You almost need a loupe to see them and ti find the one you want. Maybe a loupe as small price is handy.
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
    Raid is not even 24 hours old. Worse case that is all you lost time wise. If the tier pays out 1 million points per completion now and you can do a set every hour. That is some good points for 0 coin and I will have a video of a Blade Apollo fleet doing the targets here in a moment.


    24 hrs of raid done yes so 25% 1/4 in a broken unplayable state...  if they fixed it now it would be an entire day late

    one full day less for players to complete..

    however nothing has been fixed or changed so what on earth r u talking about?




    dude we cant even do a single 60s target.. 0 points not 0 coin.. go on with ur video it doesn't matter to anyone else unless you have the mod privledges and buffs.. they mean nothing to us regular normal players.. I hit one of the targets I could actually kill a 45

    I got 5 k pts for it so no they did not take away the hit down penalty..... I think we should forget about level and g to a class or fleet system if u hit the targets with phoenix or skyfire.. u get penalized.. If u hit it with something else u can get all the pts.. that sounds fair right... no one wants things for free we want to be able to play the raid.. if it means gridnings away at 90k at a time so be it.. but that is not an option for any of us.. the raid is broken.. hitting 3 targwta in camp for 140 k is doable but then they take it away after 10 times.. so there us no way for a regular old player to even play much less compete or try to complete the event.  all restrictions need to be removed.. that is is still not enough,, but at least it would give ppl a road that they can attempt to travel and complete raid if they so wanted to spend the chair time.



     With your attitude is it any wonder you are hampered from enjoying and seeing success in this raid? 

    I just provided proof it can be done with the build I have had for over a year. Everything else you have stated is just white noise from someone that gives up too easy.
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    Here is the 60s with a fleet of Apollos and blades. Build is shown in the video so pause and then make a screenshot or note of what i have. Nothing is newer tech.


    I appreciate the video and the discussion here, but I put it to you that a limited flagship hull should not be required to complete the mid-level targets in a raid.

    The damage and evade on the drones are too **** high.
    who says you need the flag?  OK. So you win it is impossible ;) I would bother to show it with just 4 apollos, but then you guys would move the goal posts yet again. :)
  • Youngman300
    Youngman300
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 869
    Here is the 60s with a fleet of Apollos and blades. Build is shown in the video so pause and then make a screenshot or note of what i have. Nothing is newer tech.


    I appreciate the video and the discussion here, but I put it to you that a limited flagship hull should not be required to complete the mid-level targets in a raid.

    The damage and evade on the drones are too **** high.
    who says you need the flag?  OK. So you win it is impossible ;) I would bother to show it with just 4 apollos, but then you guys would move the goal posts yet again. :)
    Still the same goal posts for me. :D 

    Too bad I'm playing with a half a nerf football. 
    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition.

  • pmax76
    pmax76
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Feb 2015 Posts: 281
    wow... a day and a half into the raid and we are at 13 pages already. I think that's a new record!

    Nope
    80+ Pages has been record
    (dont know exactly which Raid it has been, but i think it was one of the first in 2017) 
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  • Shapu_the_farm
    Shapu_the_farm
    Master Tactician
    Joined Sep 2015 Posts: 2,051
    Here is the 60s with a fleet of Apollos and blades. Build is shown in the video so pause and then make a screenshot or note of what i have. Nothing is newer tech.


    I appreciate the video and the discussion here, but I put it to you that a limited flagship hull should not be required to complete the mid-level targets in a raid.

    The damage and evade on the drones are too **** high.
    who says you need the flag?  OK. So you win it is impossible ;) I would bother to show it with just 4 apollos, but then you guys would move the goal posts yet again. :)
    I believe you that it can be done with a full fleet.  I was being too persnickety.  I am still not pleased.
  • MikeHuntHurtz
    MikeHuntHurtz
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 706
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
    Raid is not even 24 hours old. Worse case that is all you lost time wise. If the tier pays out 1 million points per completion now and you can do a set every hour. That is some good points for 0 coin and I will have a video of a Blade Apollo fleet doing the targets here in a moment.


    24 hrs of raid done yes so 25% 1/4 in a broken unplayable state...  if they fixed it now it would be an entire day late

    one full day less for players to complete..

    however nothing has been fixed or changed so what on earth r u talking about?




    dude we cant even do a single 60s target.. 0 points not 0 coin.. go on with ur video it doesn't matter to anyone else unless you have the mod privledges and buffs.. they mean nothing to us regular normal players.. I hit one of the targets I could actually kill a 45

    I got 5 k pts for it so no they did not take away the hit down penalty..... I think we should forget about level and g to a class or fleet system if u hit the targets with phoenix or skyfire.. u get penalized.. If u hit it with something else u can get all the pts.. that sounds fair right... no one wants things for free we want to be able to play the raid.. if it means gridnings away at 90k at a time so be it.. but that is not an option for any of us.. the raid is broken.. hitting 3 targwta in camp for 140 k is doable but then they take it away after 10 times.. so there us no way for a regular old player to even play much less compete or try to complete the event.  all restrictions need to be removed.. that is is still not enough,, but at least it would give ppl a road that they can attempt to travel and complete raid if they so wanted to spend the chair time.



     With your attitude is it any wonder you are hampered from enjoying and seeing success in this raid? 

    I just provided proof it can be done with the build I have had for over a year. Everything else you have stated is just white noise from someone that gives up too easy.

    there is no way to do raid 5k at a time that's 100 targets per million pts  .. you can call it attitude bro or sis but im simply trying to be the voice of reason... there clearly is not one in these forums..    nobody cares about ur video.. we don't care about what u are doing or using... as players we all have what we have.. all we want is to play the raid in whatever way we can..   there really isn't a way for many of us..    so that's good that you are one of the few and the proud.. however there are many of us that cant do anything in the raid.  that's what we are talking about .not you.. not your dumb videos.. not your asinine opinions.  we are in the real world not the moderator world or free perks and such. I will not spend a single coin on this raid.. they have priced me out of even trying to play. fortunantely there are no major groundbreaking prizes available. so no need to worry. maybe by the end of the cycle they will have it sorted.. then they can break the game again.
  • CaptainI
    CaptainI
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2014 Posts: 507
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
    Raid is not even 24 hours old. Worse case that is all you lost time wise. If the tier pays out 1 million points per completion now and you can do a set every hour. That is some good points for 0 coin and I will have a video of a Blade Apollo fleet doing the targets here in a moment.
    That is great. But, I don't have apollos built. In another month when my pheonix fleet is completed, I won't need apollos. I fell in to a gap, as a returning player, where my only assault fleet that is built and ranked is Rhinos (or Frosty/V2). 

    So, what are us gappers supposed to do?
    use rhinos with a punisher CM Tank :)
    Don't have a punisher CM tank. I have a Zelos CM tank - which I have paired with my rhinos - and I found it to be less than successful. Not trying to be contrary - Actually looking to do something in this raid - and willing to put a few coins in as required. As it sits, to get the locked store open would cost me $200.00 - which is far more than a little coin.  - Im open for alternatives. But, I refuse to spend that kind of money when I own the two best non-flag hulls for this raid, and simply did not have time to build a functional fleet before having more content thrown at me. (Started my Phoenixes the last day of the last raid) 
    If you get your Phoenix fully built and ranked for the next round you will do well. I am currently doing the 100 for just under 2 hours damage so coining repair means 1 coin per million - I am happy with that 
    But in the mean time I miss out on all three flag ships, charged armors, and the UAV special I couldn't get from the TLC. Seems fair? I know that I have the tools to do it in the next raid. But that is not much comfort seeing people pass me on the leaderboard in this raid. Seeing as how I put the **** time and coins in towards getting top end tech in the last raid. 
    I have said this many times this is like any game or sport you have those at the top middle and bottom we call cannot be number 1 !
  • MikeHuntHurtz
    MikeHuntHurtz
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 706
    also I won the zoes appollo flag last raid.. not years ago.. it has 17 day build time for a blank hull.. so yea I can probably never build it and my appolos with all the latest greatest missiles ad specials talons carbon fiber etc cannot kill a single drone before dying in any 60s target.. that's my grief and to boot if I killed that target they for take 75%  of the pts away from me.. but I cant complete a single drone... so again no need to worry about them things
  • p_b82
    p_b82
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 566
    The problem seems to be wit hthe phoenix that without the rank, or enough ships the damage output of anything but talons is really low in DPS terms... the sheer number of blades being thrown out on the apollos is way more than the phoenix... which makes it viable to hit the turrets in a single pass.

    I have to go 4 or 5 times past the throwers to take them down, taking damage on each pass because I can't totally outrun the splash....

    I made a bad call going for extra anti protection, and my SY is busy so can't do anything about it until after the raid now....
  • Charlie Pugwash
    Charlie Pugwash
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 2,576
    Would you kindly STOP DESPAWNING TARGETS PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY IN BATTLE WITH!
    Thanks.
    • "Best of luck, Captains! And may the odds be ever in your favour..."


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  • NSD_Mad-Hatter_8
    NSD_Mad-Hatter_8
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 886


    "RAIDS" need to have advanced tips going forward and to be more balanced. Let's
    talk about balance between "RAIDS" the preparation times between "RAIDS" is total
    of 4 weeks. Let's talk about realistic side of building ships to prep for "RAIDS" total
    time on T4 ships is to great and need massive reductions. The balance for uprising
    mid levels are stuck with under prepped fleets. Let's use some examples by the time
    raid comes up do you honestly think uprising mid levels will have prepped out 1 fleet
    to do the raid at hand?

    Let's us some examples of builds with T4 Rhino's if we place the above suggested gear,
    equips, or turret's our build timer is 9d, 15 hr, and some change. Below is an example
    of gear placed on my T4 Rhino via (Raid Tips) 

    "My Rhino Codex" *Copy/Paste*
    [In Game Reference]

    eNqrVipPTSzIzytWsoo2NLY00UEnTCwtdLBK4JON1VEqLkhNzkzMAZlramCkY2pppGNsYmqoY2oMZJiZmAGVJBbl5heBFBhbmBnrYCGAajJKc3I8XZSsjAyMLWoB4ropNw==

    Now we have a point of reference let's do some math here there is a total of 30 days in each 
    month. Let's double our numbers (9d, 15hr x2) = 19d 6hrs and now let's triple our days to
    see results. (9d, 15hr x3)= 28D,, 21hr. Our total ships produce before "RAID" event is about 
    3 completed ships. 

    So explain to me how mid levels or uprising mid players are suppose to play events with 3/5
    fleet productions. The time between "RAID" and production with gear of ships need massive
    reduction. You want more players to return allow the players to be able to play or to do "RAIDS"
    ship builds/refits should not be a punishment to players. 

    As players we should be pumping out at least one or two fleets per "RAID" to do them more
    efficiently. Instead of giving bonus for T5 set why not reduce T4 set players should have the
    sense of fun. If the "RAID" is to challenging they won't play them there is to much in the lower
    tiers for low level (uprising mid levels) to get a chance or opportunity to at least get one event
    item.  

    The solution is just one click away. Build your fleets instantly with $$$. I'm willing to spend some money on my cartoon boats (because I like the people I'm playing with and the game is fun) but not the hundreds or thousands that some spend.  

    Another good point about mid level fleets let's take a look at cost to build "instantly". Just
    about any full build for one ship cost about 30-45$ per ship. Do you honestly think players
    want to cave in for that price? I've seen games with better promo's, releases, and able to do
    budgets. The game for pricing is also on the high end, they are producing content but, not at
    the ratio of balance. Let's take a look at base defenses for strategy for example every turret
    for a good base defense is placed inside campaign. Where is the strategy to that seriously it
    would be nice to see T1 - T3, turret's, vxp tokens, reduced ship build tokens the on prize list.
    I do not mind spending under 100$ however, when you look at the long term of building your
    ships or refits it sinks your game play.

    Raids are meant to have fun to me feel as they are making them to challenging. Look at the T4
    set honest it could of been done a lot better. Huge ships for level 41 Nav-Relay with sonar, spites
    with speed, and little nats is really do much. Not many uprising levels will have "Apollo's" fleet built
    due to the time it takes to build them. Realistically more want to play the game for fun not have to
    pay at every corner of new content release. The prize list for "Glowing Sea" is just not enough and
    another down side is now we have to do unlockable tiers.
  • HenLai10
    HenLai10
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Apr 2013 Posts: 638
    also I won the zoes appollo flag last raid.. not years ago.. it has 17 day build time for a blank hull.. so yea I can probably never build it and my appolos with all the latest greatest missiles ad specials talons carbon fiber etc cannot kill a single drone before dying in any 60s target.. that's my grief and to boot if I killed that target they for take 75%  of the pts away from me.. but I cant complete a single drone... so again no need to worry about them things
    I think it comes down to rank.  A lot of people opt to get out more partially done and partially ranked ships instead of fully ranked and equipped, but less ships. If you can't utilize VXP weekend, spend some time to rank them vs. Salvs... at least we can do that with PVE ships...  But if you don't want to put in the time or don't have the time... then you are going to suffer
     
  • Firefighter4
    Firefighter4
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 180
    Ok I had quit last week but came back just to do the raid. This is insane. Raid is impossible even for any of my  20 plus elite fleets without MAJOR coining... I quit again..what a waste of a once great game...
  • blackhawk4040
    blackhawk4040
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 1,817
    edited 14 Jul 2017, 2:50PM
    Ok I had quit last week but came back just to do the raid. This is insane. Raid is impossible even for any of my  20 plus elite fleets without MAJOR coining... I quit again..what a waste of a once great game...

  • NSD_Mad-Hatter_8
    NSD_Mad-Hatter_8
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 886
    Well they must have reduced the damage in Tier 5 sets, I just used my Apollo fleet to do all 3 targets with 3.5 hours damage...and they have taken out the point restrictions as well, no coin this raid but I should be able to get the new zelos flagship at least

    that would be steps n proper direction maybe too late tho
    Raid is not even 24 hours old. Worse case that is all you lost time wise. If the tier pays out 1 million points per completion now and you can do a set every hour. That is some good points for 0 coin and I will have a video of a Blade Apollo fleet doing the targets here in a moment.


    24 hrs of raid done yes so 25% 1/4 in a broken unplayable state...  if they fixed it now it would be an entire day late

    one full day less for players to complete..

    however nothing has been fixed or changed so what on earth r u talking about?




    dude we cant even do a single 60s target.. 0 points not 0 coin.. go on with ur video it doesn't matter to anyone else unless you have the mod privledges and buffs.. they mean nothing to us regular normal players.. I hit one of the targets I could actually kill a 45

    I got 5 k pts for it so no they did not take away the hit down penalty..... I think we should forget about level and g to a class or fleet system if u hit the targets with phoenix or skyfire.. u get penalized.. If u hit it with something else u can get all the pts.. that sounds fair right... no one wants things for free we want to be able to play the raid.. if it means gridnings away at 90k at a time so be it.. but that is not an option for any of us.. the raid is broken.. hitting 3 targwta in camp for 140 k is doable but then they take it away after 10 times.. so there us no way for a regular old player to even play much less compete or try to complete the event.  all restrictions need to be removed.. that is is still not enough,, but at least it would give ppl a road that they can attempt to travel and complete raid if they so wanted to spend the chair time.



     With your attitude is it any wonder you are hampered from enjoying and seeing success in this raid? 

    I just provided proof it can be done with the build I have had for over a year. Everything else you have stated is just white noise from someone that gives up too easy.

    Hint.... Hint... "build from over one year ago" players play in the now content not from past content the issue
    is build times between "RAIDS". Giving out build during "RAID" merely means we have to coin for each of them
    and the cost for set is to great for T4 sets. Being T5 set the build time is to long where is the "play the event
    for fun" come into play? Even the major coiners are not to happy with how the event is even with full pheonix
    set's some are having long repair issues with 1/2 repair. Let's be realistic the event should be fun and doable
    by all levels above 30. The case in fact is the event was designed insanely to hard for prize list is really not to
    good either. It is not that we give up to easy it is facts that the game progression or time to build fleets takes
    up to much time wherefore, we as the players should be pumping ships out and thriving to play events. 
  • scott.tandlye
    scott.tandlye
    Potential Threat
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 61
    Time to do the math average daily players 60,000 raid time average players 45,000. 15k not doing the raid then they wont be able to keep up. next raid number will go down. time to wake up and smell the roses. 
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