Oh for fucsake, I would love the opportunity to treat who ever comes up with these heists like the bunch theives you are, fucin bs you think we are that stupid, that we dont know why your nerfing the punisher it has nothing to do with bases, or fleets being walked over and everything to do with the A.X.I.S release you have realised that our current fleets would tear the arshole out of the new event fleets and the old ones, then you realise with the refit discount right after a catch up event where two blank hulls are available people would be able to get two ships refitted quickly, cant have that can you so you cancel the event and will more than likley scheduled conveniently after the discounts have passed.
I hate being smart enough to see through stuff like that
Yea, but wouldn't that be more say a players reaction to a gameplay change than a developers??
Making ANYONE able to relocate to you is a bad idea, it should have to be a request which can be accepted or denied by the player. Also a PvP faction of hulls is a bad idea in the matter of low-mid- even some high level players, since most high level players already have some pretty OP fleets why give them even more OP ships? And I'm pretty disappointed that Vega Conflict is joining the mmo bandwagon of having a "VIP" mechanic that eventually pushes people to become a wallet warrior to progress at a moderate pace through the game. I say instead of the VIP for individual players you should implement it into the Alliance system, so instead of having it increase as you buy coins and etc, your Alliance should have an exp meter where everything can be upgraded by accumulating points into specific skills like increased alliance help time or capacity. If you play Star Wars Commander you'll know what I'm talking about (Squad Perks).
I agree with most except the Alliance system. I hate depending on others. I hate wasting time not knowing what I am getting into. A leader 6 time zones away many not have allies to come to my aid but I am sure the will expect me to drop everything to come to theirs. I am a solo player for my reasons. So VIP makes some sense.
So that's why you hate CW. You have no one to do it with.
Newsflash, this game is based around being in an alliance. if the other members are 6 timezones away, they won't expect you to help them just as you don't expect them to help you. At least, in a decent alliance.
Mine is like that. we help each other to a reasonable extent.
If you are refusing to participate in a core part of the game, that is your choice, but you do not have the right to demand that things that are part of that core aspect are removed.
Making ANYONE able to relocate to you is a bad idea, it should have to be a request which can be accepted or denied by the player. Also a PvP faction of hulls is a bad idea in the matter of low-mid- even some high level players, since most high level players already have some pretty OP fleets why give them even more OP ships? And I'm pretty disappointed that Vega Conflict is joining the mmo bandwagon of having a "VIP" mechanic that eventually pushes people to become a wallet warrior to progress at a moderate pace through the game. I say instead of the VIP for individual players you should implement it into the Alliance system, so instead of having it increase as you buy coins and etc, your Alliance should have an exp meter where everything can be upgraded by accumulating points into specific skills like increased alliance help time or capacity. If you play Star Wars Commander you'll know what I'm talking about (Squad Perks).
I agree with most except the Alliance system. I hate depending on others. I hate wasting time not knowing what I am getting into. A leader 6 time zones away many not have allies to come to my aid but I am sure the will expect me to drop everything to come to theirs. I am a solo player for my reasons. So VIP makes some sense.
So that's why you hate CW. You have no one to do it with.
Newsflash, this game is based around being in an alliance. if the other members are 6 timezones away, they won't expect you to help them just as you don't expect them to help you. At least, in a decent alliance.
Mine is like that. we help each other to a reasonable extent.
If you are refusing to participate in a core part of the game, that is your choice, but you do not have the right to demand that things that are part of that core aspect are removed.
yep along with many others who are trying to get res. if you look at how much res is needed to upgrade then it become apparent that much more res is needed. With the loss of hives it makes that much slower than necessary. CW is a waste period. Most hide so they are not attacked as with events back to back to double backed and repair times so long, it makes sense to do other things. Of course it may be for nought as the marauder class will be combat superior. Well, at least for a while. That said the early introductions to new whatever are usually the best time to win points as Kix's practice of lowering points and upping difficulty makes it just that much harder. One can't harvest res when all the fleets are being repaired. Correction CW was not a core, There is a cadre who like it. Combat between fleets happened when I was just beginning. That has always been there. A lot of games are built around alliances. I choose to have fun at my pace. Something that can bring parity is welcome. I am a lone player that's how it is. I hate Cw and always will. I notice you yourself has had complaints.
Err my gawd... waiting for update to finish.. what the hell am I supposed to do now!! Please don't say house chores! CAN I COIN THE REST OF THIS UPDATE! wife is getting suspicious.. I can't fake playing much longer! Please CM Chris! Tell me it won't be much longer!!
I have a build on going now and I'm not sure how many people are in the same position as me. So what is your idea for the 48 hour period that is mandatory for all those who will have to rebuild their punisher ships?
I have a build on going now and I'm not sure how many people are in the same position as me. So what is your idea for the 48 hour period that is mandatory for all those who will have to rebuild their punisher ships?
You do realise that if your pun is overweight it is a free instant refit?
ha yeah my free refit was to remove 2 resistors from overweight mk3 pun. pretty sure they took resources to put on and 2 days. So less a free refit as a free downgrade that cost. Once I mark it up to 4 later, Guess what I have to do..yeap that's right pay the resources and wait the 2 days to put them back on again. How is that in any way shape or form RIGHT????
Hey kixeye wake up and smell the roses give puns a -50% mass to armor like all the other xeno ships get to their weapons to make puns not loss +30% armor if they have xeno dis cannons level 2
Erebus LVL 69
Kixeye give everyone 10 billion coins for sticking it out with you this far
I have a build on going now and I'm not sure how many people are in the same position as me. So what is your idea for the 48 hour period that is mandatory for all those who will have to rebuild their punisher ships?
You do realise that if your pun is overweight it is a free instant refit?
That might be so but you have to CUT between 10-40% of your armor out which if you had exal pral or enal you just downgraded what was 6 days of refits to a max of a 2 and a half day downgrade. (thats if you use the xeno thruster)
Erebus LVL 69
Kixeye give everyone 10 billion coins for sticking it out with you this far
@CM Chris Hey Kixeye heres and IDEA THATS NOT STUPID anything that is a "downgrade" should be a free refit and anything thats an upgrade (aka same type of armor just higher level or in the case of talonites all of them) it should be the greater time minus the lessor time. so something that was you know 5 hours on a mk1 pun to upgrade to heavy talonite 2 from 1 would only be 1 hour since the time difference is one hour. and to put on the exal/pral/enal would be like 3/4ths of a day instead of a full day or what ever level 2 is minus 6 hours. ALSO xeno weapon refit times are INSANE!!!! a month for a decent refit for just weapons on anni battleships
Erebus LVL 69
Kixeye give everyone 10 billion coins for sticking it out with you this far
Well thx very much @cm Chris. Puns will be overweight for most players. Let's see we will all have a ship currently on build in the factory. So we won't be able to refit puns unless we coin it like a **** or cancel the current build to be competitive in the event.
All in all this is so noob from kix. One of the best games being ruined fast.
@lilaruan said:
Well thx very much @cm Chris. Puns will be overweight for most players. Let's see we will all have a ship currently on build in the factory. So we won't be able to refit puns unless we coin it like a **** or cancel the current build to be competitive in the event.
All in all this is so noob from kix. One of the best games being ruined fast.
The free refit can be done with ship factory building/refitting
I have a build on going now and I'm not sure how many people are in the same position as me. So what is your idea for the 48 hour period that is mandatory for all those who will have to rebuild their punisher ships?
You do realise that if your pun is overweight it is a free instant refit?
That might be so but you have to CUT between 10-40% of your armor out which if you had exal pral or enal you just downgraded what was 6 days of refits to a max of a 2 and a half day downgrade. (thats if you use the xeno thruster)
I stripped all my meta 3 shields off so could keep armour still high, sucks but what can you do, kix have royally farked us over
So i have been wasting my time to refit those talonite plates because of the faster repair time? And on top of that I got the XP than kept my base above level 65, because the broken base bp was clearly the storm turret...
I've had enough of you people at Kixeye changing up my stuff i spend my time building so unlike a lot of other players I'M gone ...finished scraping all my ships and base so thx for the screwing......
Update broke Talonite Plates. They now have the same repairtime as other plates (1:1 ratio)
Ship or base ones?
Base ones are called plates and ship ones called armors so its base ones.
Yeah my bad, talonite plate 3 and meta 2 on a lvl 12 storage module, over 4 hrs repair time, wtf
Indeed. I got CMs with 12 hours repairtime after this :P And the exp those plates gave me compared to if i stuck with capacitive plates III for same health and repairtime, keeps me over the lvl 65 gate so i can be raped by Xeno Exterminators. Annoying bug indeed. Especially right before an event when we will face OP alien base attack fleets.
Update broke Talonite Plates. They now have the same repairtime as other plates (1:1 ratio)
Ship or base ones?
Base ones are called plates and ship ones called armors so its base ones.
Yeah my bad, talonite plate 3 and meta 2 on a lvl 12 storage module, over 4 hrs repair time, wtf
Indeed. I got CMs with 12 hours repairtime after this :P And the exp those plates gave me compared to if i stuck with capacitive plates III for same health and repairtime, keeps me over the lvl 65 gate so i can be raped by Xeno Exterminators. Annoying bug indeed. Especially right before an event when we will face OP alien base attack fleets.
I don't trigger them anymore, more hassle than the points they are worth but with the plate bug now, even more so not triggering
Seriuosly Kixeye, ive been with this game for years. Its a good setup, was bound to be a great game and longlived. Im a semi coiner, got some Elites, got a bunch of Mk5 of DC etc...spent a fair amount of cash because i enjoyed the game and wanted Kix to have the resources to evolve the game...nothing wrong with making a profit on a good product...
But what happend? After the "great rebalance" its been downhill for the players imo, ive not seen much improvments that has added to the experience. Powercreep to name one, its off the scale...
But the worst thing of it all, what is Kixeyes strategy? It changes on a monthly basis, its impossible to adapt when build/refit times are measured in weeks/months for a single fleet. Cost to coinrefit is a shame, its not 100$...its way above...for a digital game..."whales" are what you live of i get that, but they need players to kill...the semi/non coiners...whats in it for us Kixeye...thats a serious question!
A friend in my alliance posted a good analogy on Line App...it summon things up perfectly...
Quote:
"Imagine you bought a nice big Volvo. Nice accessories, big engine. Big money. You bring it in for maintenance and when they give it back to you they took away a cylinder, your leather seats are gone because they were too heavy and your fuel consumption has doubled.
What would you do?"
End quote
Yeah what would you do? Dont think you would buy another Volvo would you?
Kixeye, you got a good product...make it great again...look into the history of the game, what was the core values you had when you released it...thats the key to success...
after building Axis ships they realise, dam!!!! punisher cruiser have same capacity. players will never spend coin on the new ships, if we leave that ship like that.
then what they do force a mass reduction on the punisher. saying its a bug problem needs to be fixed.
now axis cruiser probably will be similar to the old punisher version
I've no idea what have you done Kix. I'm a massive coiner with all fleets MK6 and all but now you make the base levels fropped from <70 to >65 so what to do with our exterminators ? It's already Lv64 for a single exterminator. I've been playing vega for years and it keeps become more and more bs . I'm looking forward for A.X.I.S hulls but still have you ever think of those non-coiners? We can't play this game without them. You're just making more and more players to quit this game and very soon enough we'll too lost interest in it since there's not much players left in game. You're making yourself feels bad lol. After all, only coiners will be fighting while the others will just hardly catching up with the events,which are getting more and more difficult , for non-coiners. I can't see a good future in vega now seriously. All i can see is, kix is more to their own now rather than thinking of we players.
@littlefreb said:
I've no idea what have you done Kix.
I'm a massive coiner with all fleets MK6 and all but now you make the base levels fropped from <70 to >65 so what to do with our exterminators ?
It's already Lv64 for a single exterminator.
I've been playing vega for years and it keeps become more and more bs . I'm looking forward for A.X.I.S hulls but still have you ever think of those non-coiners? We can't play this game without them. You're just making more and more players to quit this game and very soon enough we'll too lost interest in it since there's not much players left in game. You're making yourself feels bad lol.
After all, only coiners will be fighting while the others will just hardly catching up with the events,which are getting more and more difficult , for non-coiners. I can't see a good future in vega now seriously.
All i can see is, kix is more to their own now rather than thinking of we players.
This is a good post, just proves my point above...Kixeye, you need to look ahead, you need all kinds of players to make the game evolve...
From what i have seen so far, you have no idea where you are heading. You are not on the bridge, you are down in the boilerroom and shovel coal into the engines and hope they ship wont stuck an iceberg...lol
How can fixing a bug reduce my base by 7 levels...what is wrong with you people?...I mean I've been here since the beginning..the very beginning and I played this game because it used to be fun...now it's not a game..its a money minting activity for you bastards!!I spend coins for what?? Bastards!! You people are just bastards and I refuse to be treated like this..**** your stupid game...im not going to coin anymore...your disregard for players needs is beyond the usefulness of this game...you can dictate changes fine...but no..you will not **** up my hard work that took me months to get done...months you **** bastards!!! **** this ****
With build times so high Vega conflict is a long play game but the costs are beyond ridiculous for digital content. Combine that with game-breaking changes causing old ships to require months of refits to fit new ship mass calculations...not just damage rules. This game has so much potential, but starting to wake up here. It is just not worth it free or paid.
Any "bug" or "fix" like this should be an instant refit regardless of mass if a ship is affected. Refit discount is the wrong way and doesn't work. Like me I know others still have ships in their list that never have been refitted from the last change like this, there is no time and only a few ships can be done this way. Mass balance changes are a huge slap in the face since we balance per fleet mass, not by ship mass. Introducing new damage types makes old content a boneyard and is a non-imaginative fix to a complex balancing problem. Forcing players who spend as well as those who don't to constantly fall behind.
Reminds me that Blizzard just released an "upgrade" on Diablo III charging a whopping $15 for a huge amount of content. Not only that all the old content did not get nerfed but expanded. Maybe Kixeye should re-think their exponential pricing / destroy content policy.
Yea, but wouldn't that be more say a players reaction to a gameplay change than a developers??
Thanks,
MVK
yep along with many others who are trying to get res. if you look at how much res is needed to upgrade then it become apparent that much more res is needed. With the loss of hives it makes that much slower than necessary. CW is a waste period. Most hide so they are not attacked as with events back to back to double backed and repair times so long, it makes sense to do other things. Of course it may be for nought as the marauder class will be combat superior. Well, at least for a while. That said the early introductions to new whatever are usually the best time to win points as Kix's practice of lowering points and upping difficulty makes it just that much harder. One can't harvest res when all the fleets are being repaired. Correction CW was not a core, There is a cadre who like it. Combat between fleets happened when I was just beginning. That has always been there. A lot of games are built around alliances. I choose to have fun at my pace. Something that can bring parity is welcome. I am a lone player that's how it is. I hate Cw and always will. I notice you yourself has had complaints.
Speaking of the Update is it still stuck at 19:59 for Anyone else?
That's the "Downtime Began" my dude... lol
Err my gawd... waiting for update to finish.. what the hell am I supposed to do now!! Please don't say house chores! CAN I COIN THE REST OF THIS UPDATE! wife is getting suspicious.. I can't fake playing much longer! Please CM Chris! Tell me it won't be much longer!!
My bad lol... Just woke up and seen the downtime i was like nuuu..
I have a build on going now and I'm not sure how many people are in the same position as me. So what is your idea for the 48 hour period that is mandatory for all those who will have to rebuild their punisher ships?
You do realise that if your pun is overweight it is a free instant refit?
That might be so but you have to CUT between 10-40% of your armor out which if you had exal pral or enal you just downgraded what was 6 days of refits to a max of a 2 and a half day downgrade. (thats if you use the xeno thruster)
Hey Kixeye heres and IDEA THATS NOT STUPID anything that is a "downgrade" should be a free refit and anything thats an upgrade (aka same type of armor just higher level or in the case of talonites all of them) it should be the greater time minus the lessor time. so something that was you know 5 hours on a mk1 pun to upgrade to heavy talonite 2 from 1 would only be 1 hour since the time difference is one hour. and to put on the exal/pral/enal would be like 3/4ths of a day instead of a full day or what ever level 2 is minus 6 hours. ALSO xeno weapon refit times are INSANE!!!! a month for a decent refit for just weapons on anni battleships
Well thx very much @cm Chris. Puns will be overweight for most players. Let's see we will all have a ship currently on build in the factory. So we won't be able to refit puns unless we coin it like a **** or cancel the current build to be competitive in the event.
All in all this is so noob from kix. One of the best games being ruined fast.
The free refit can be done with ship factory building/refitting
I stripped all my meta 3 shields off so could keep armour still high, sucks but what can you do, kix have royally farked us over
Ship or base ones?
Base ones are called plates and ship ones called armors so its base ones.
Yeah my bad, talonite plate 3 and meta 2 on a lvl 12 storage module, over 4 hrs repair time, wtf
And on top of that I got the XP than kept my base above level 65, because the broken base bp was clearly the storm turret...
Indeed. I got CMs with 12 hours repairtime after this :P And the exp those plates gave me compared to if i stuck with capacitive plates III for same health and repairtime, keeps me over the lvl 65 gate so i can be raped by Xeno Exterminators. Annoying bug indeed. Especially right before an event when we will face OP alien base attack fleets.
I don't trigger them anymore, more hassle than the points they are worth but with the plate bug now, even more so not triggering
Seriuosly Kixeye, ive been with this game for years. Its a good setup, was bound to be a great game and longlived. Im a semi coiner, got some Elites, got a bunch of Mk5 of DC etc...spent a fair amount of cash because i enjoyed the game and wanted Kix to have the resources to evolve the game...nothing wrong with making a profit on a good product...
But what happend? After the "great rebalance" its been downhill for the players imo, ive not seen much improvments that has added to the experience. Powercreep to name one, its off the scale...
But the worst thing of it all, what is Kixeyes strategy? It changes on a monthly basis, its impossible to adapt when build/refit times are measured in weeks/months for a single fleet. Cost to coinrefit is a shame, its not 100$...its way above...for a digital game..."whales" are what you live of i get that, but they need players to kill...the semi/non coiners...whats in it for us Kixeye...thats a serious question!
A friend in my alliance posted a good analogy on Line App...it summon things up perfectly...
Quote:
"Imagine you bought a nice big Volvo. Nice accessories, big engine. Big money. You bring it in for maintenance and when they give it back to you they took away a cylinder, your leather seats are gone because they were too heavy and your fuel consumption has doubled.
What would you do?"
End quote
Yeah what would you do? Dont think you would buy another Volvo would you?
Kixeye, you got a good product...make it great again...look into the history of the game, what was the core values you had when you released it...thats the key to success...
bug issue, who's falling for that Kixeye?
after building Axis ships they realise, dam!!!! punisher cruiser have same capacity. players will never spend coin on the new ships, if we leave that ship like that.
then what they do force a mass reduction on the punisher. saying its a bug problem needs to be fixed.
now axis cruiser probably will be similar to the old punisher version
thanks Kixeye
I'm a massive coiner with all fleets MK6 and all but now you make the base levels fropped from <70 to >65 so what to do with our exterminators ?
It's already Lv64 for a single exterminator.
I've been playing vega for years and it keeps become more and more bs . I'm looking forward for A.X.I.S hulls but still have you ever think of those non-coiners? We can't play this game without them. You're just making more and more players to quit this game and very soon enough we'll too lost interest in it since there's not much players left in game. You're making yourself feels bad lol.
After all, only coiners will be fighting while the others will just hardly catching up with the events,which are getting more and more difficult , for non-coiners. I can't see a good future in vega now seriously.
All i can see is, kix is more to their own now rather than thinking of we players.
This is a good post, just proves my point above...Kixeye, you need to look ahead, you need all kinds of players to make the game evolve...
From what i have seen so far, you have no idea where you are heading. You are not on the bridge, you are down in the boilerroom and shovel coal into the engines and hope they ship wont stuck an iceberg...lol
How can fixing a bug reduce my base by 7 levels...what is wrong with you people?...I mean I've been here since the beginning..the very beginning and I played this game because it used to be fun...now it's not a game..its a money minting activity for you bastards!!I spend coins for what?? Bastards!! You people are just bastards and I refuse to be treated like this..**** your stupid game...im not going to coin anymore...your disregard for players needs is beyond the usefulness of this game...you can dictate changes fine...but no..you will not **** up my hard work that took me months to get done...months you **** bastards!!! **** this ****
With build times so high Vega conflict is a long play game but the costs are beyond ridiculous for digital content. Combine that with game-breaking changes causing old ships to require months of refits to fit new ship mass calculations...not just damage rules. This game has so much potential, but starting to wake up here. It is just not worth it free or paid.
Any "bug" or "fix" like this should be an instant refit regardless of mass if a ship is affected. Refit discount is the wrong way and doesn't work. Like me I know others still have ships in their list that never have been refitted from the last change like this, there is no time and only a few ships can be done this way. Mass balance changes are a huge slap in the face since we balance per fleet mass, not by ship mass. Introducing new damage types makes old content a boneyard and is a non-imaginative fix to a complex balancing problem. Forcing players who spend as well as those who don't to constantly fall behind.
Reminds me that Blizzard just released an "upgrade" on Diablo III charging a whopping $15 for a huge amount of content. Not only that all the old content did not get nerfed but expanded. Maybe Kixeye should re-think their exponential pricing / destroy content policy.