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Oil repair costs...not worth playing anymore

andy venter
andy venter
Greenhorn
Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 6

After having played this game for a long time now, I have lost hope and interest.

As soon as it seems Kixeye have figured out the economy and balance of the game, they change it again, hoping to squeeze a bit more money out of the players. This has happened so many times it's ridiculous. Previously I sat through the Merian of changes thinking "this time they'll realise it".... But it would seem that the bean counters override common sense and manage to mess it up again.

This game is supposed to be fun...it isn't anymore...it's just infuriating.

  • paul.zannini
    paul.zannini
    Greenhorn
    Joined May 2017 Posts: 1

    @andy venter said:
    After having played this game for a long time now, I have lost hope and interest.

    As soon as it seems Kixeye have figured out the economy and balance of the game, they change it again, hoping to squeeze a bit more money out of the players. This has happened so many times it's ridiculous. Previously I sat through the Merian of changes thinking "this time they'll realise it".... But it would seem that the bean counters override common sense and manage to mess it up again.

    This game is supposed to be fun...it isn't anymore...it's just infuriating.

    My sentiments exactly.. complete joke spoilt a good game!!

  • IceIsCold
    IceIsCold
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1

    This suppose to be a free game but they are making tons of money from all sorts of packages and deals, no problem right? Wrong the oil prices should be very cheap to repair your units as so the players can enjoy all the money they are spending. This is not a race to get everything to max level and the game dies off or you do what your famous for, just keep adding senseless troops that further breaks your spirit about the crummy base defense you already have. I suggest keep selling all your perks but let the players play the game or offer a way to harvest oil.

  • Hrinko
    Hrinko
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 13

    I have sent a message to Support and also posted on Reddit in reply to a most articulate appeal entitled "Letter to Kixeye, state of WC:RA end of May 2017" by u/Azragaul. This letter can be read at https://www.reddit.com/r/RogueAssault/comments/6dkduz/letter_to_kixeye_state_of_wcra_end_of_may_2017/

    The appeal in that letter is well stated. I can store 30,000 plus what's in my pumps. My oil reserves fill only once a day. Each attack costs me anywhere from 8500-11000+ in oil given the level of players I'm pitted against in PVP. So I can only play 3-4 attacks per day - not quite even half an hour of play.

    I buy gold only to fill in for the times I'm short for repairs after a run of battles. Now Kixeye apparently wants me to PLAY on gold.

    Good luck with that, Kixeye. Like the writer above, I'm on an entertainment budget. I would NEVER pay full price to watch a half-hour movie. No movie studio would ever expect me to do that.

    But Kixeye does.

    A business plan balances customer satisfaction with company profit. When a company jacks up the price far beyond what is reasonable, it is operating on naked greed. Kixeye, your nudity is on display.

    I will be quitting after this long weekend if there is no improvement. How will that affect your profits?

  • Hrinko
    Hrinko
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 13

    Kixeye, please understand this is only the tip of the iceberg. There is a lot of dissent on Reddit and much more on the Line app, which I know you can't even access. I believe a significant number of your players are very upset; I'm not the only one talking about quitting. Move fast before it's too late.

  • Hrinko
    Hrinko
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 13

    Here is the letter from Reddit, just in case you can't access that either::

    r/RogueAssault
    Letter to Kixeye, state of WC:RA end of May 2017
    u/Azragaul
    Captain **** quit today. It was Sam last week. At least they took the time to say goodbye. We have lost a number of players simply to the vastness of the Internet. They vanish never to be heard from again. In every case it's frustration more than anything else that drove them away. Unable to advance they put their digital toy soldiers on the shelf and move on. I am not far behind them honestly. At 47 I find the idea of attempting to move forward daunting. I honestly don't see a possible path forward that doesn't require a large investment of cash. I don't mind spending on occasion. I look at it as part of my entertainment budget much like going to the movies. I am not; however, willing to spend thousands of dollars on any game.

    What is the most frustrating to me is the potential I see in the game for a really legendary ground breaking title in the mobile app world. Right now however the game is broken. The complaint I hear most often is an inability to save enough resources for upgrades and this is primarily because the current random matchmaking system is completely broken. In addition, this last update increased oil repair costs on a number of units another 25 to 40 percent (without any notification I might add).

    Matchmaking in random pvp in the current game version is completely broken. I think Kixeye has seen numerous posts on this topic. The +-3 level system that was in place before the change had its flaws I am sure but it was not nearly the mess it is now. Kixeye has never publicly come out and said why they felt such a massive change was required. If they took the time to explain their position, the player base might be more empathetic. As it is now, the only thing players experience is frustration.

    My own personal issues center around the fact that I only get matched up with players between level 55 and 65. I am currently 47. I use level 6 merkava, level 10 m270 level 10 cobras and level 6 snipers in my main platoon. Most bases I draw are level 7 and 8 platforms. I can beat them. I consider myself a very good player. It takes some time to find ones I can beat but I beat them. I usually run out of time; however, and find myself for the first time not consistently getting three stars in my random matchups. I simply cannot kill level 8 platforms fast enough. When I do win it's a higher oil repair bill (5k to 8k before the patch yesterday). With the old matchmaking I could do bases for between 1500-3000 oil. This means fewer attacks per day by a substantial amount. A simple platform upgrade from level 5 to level 6 costs 1.9 m metal. When I hit about 1 m metal I start losing it faster than I can hold on to it. Never mind the revenge attacks from the level 60+ player I just pissed off because I beat his base. At this point as much as I love the game and the people I play with I am ready to throw in the towel.

    If you change my story and scale it for other levels, I am sure you will hear the same complaint. It's impossible for a player to hold on to metal or get enough for upgrades they need in order to advance in the game. The belief is that Kixeye wants us to simply use real money to get the rest of the metal one needs for upgrades. Truth or not it seems to be the only way to advance. This or find a few friends, clear your defenses and hit each other to multiply the metal. Do it quickly enough and you can make your upgrade amount. Exploit or pay seems the only way to advance and this is where the frustration is from. Kixeye sees this in a number of other posts here on Reddit. The player community is hanging by a thread hoping a change is on the horizon but quite frankly more and more lose hope everyday and another friend leaves.

    Kixeye: please fix matchmaking or set it back to the +-3 level system that was in place before.

    Stop raising oil repair costs. The community is already under significant negative pressure. Raising cost at all before fixing matchmaking is just driving more players away. An alternative would be to LOWER repair costs across the board until you actually fix matchmaking (if you are dead set on some new formula).

    Once those things are fixed and I feel like the game is playable again, I have lots of other ideas. But quite frankly I am close to quitting and unless this is fixed it's not worth spending more energy on writing out any other suggestions.

    Respectfully Submitted. Azragaul. Dark Angels alliance.

  • misanthr0pe
    misanthr0pe
    Potential Threat
    Joined May 2015 Posts: 83

    Articulate? Hardly.

    Either way, uninstall all Kixeye games!

  • David Auchterlonie
    David Auchterlonie
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2017 Posts: 1

    Kixeye please fix economy, you are driving people away from game. I have noticed activity has decreased, not increased since you increased repair costs. I think this game is great, and do buy gold, but, I am refusing to buy gold till you make this game fairer. I heard on chat apps that there is calling for a boycott of buying gold from the top alliance. I don't think you would like this. Thank you H

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