Soni, update notes may give you some insight into upcoming items but I have never considered them to be promised. But it does feel misleading, doesn't it?
I understand this looks to be quite a daunting challenge, and it is. A few gentle reminders for everyone, though:
- Solo targets are balanced at a lower difficulty than Co-Op targets. Your task is not to face a level 95 Co-Op target by yourself. While boss targets will be extremely difficult (they are boss targets, after all), they are balanced for one player to tackle.
- Yes, the latest Xeno ships with the latest Xeno tech equipped will be the most efficient means to destroy a target. As was mentioned at the start of this season, the highest level tech from the monthly events and various sector activities are subsequently going to be the best to use for the highest level Alien targets. They are not the only means to destroy a target, just the most efficient.
- This event lasts for 4 days. A single boss target fight at the highest level will earn you enough points to unlock almost any prize in the store, and those are far from the only targets on the map. So don't go into this feeling like you have to completely clean out the store in a day, you have time and you have options. Plan your strategies accordingly.
One of the biggest issues with this is the fact that during the last event it was encouraged by Kixeye that the best tech and fleets to use were the ships and tech that were in the event itself. You cannot have an event where the best fleets to use are the ones you're trying to obtain. This process is what leaves players behind and causes enough frustration that it leads to more players quitting the game because they cannot keep up.
Ok kixeye, you've done it again, peoplr love alien events as coop, not solo, sure some people like solo targets, but the main reason people play alien is to play with friends, you are destroying this event for everyone, look at your BIG spenders in 1200, they are even pissed, so why don't you listen to everyone and put coop on for this event and slow down a bit with these insane alien levels, gradually putting in higher levels is always good, but adding 20 levels and on top of making it solo makes it impossible for none coiners to do anything
So a single boss target is smashed and I have 15 hours of repairs, giving me a maximum (If I am lucky) of 7 targets at 5.09 mil points. Now that seems like a lot, until you examine the store prices.
If all you're going to do is take 1 fleet and hit 1 target type, then sure. Seems like you'd be unnecessarily restricting yourself by not using any of your other fleets, or hitting any of the dozens of other targets, many of which hand out tens/hundreds of thousands of points themselves.
This would be an ok tactic if we have 1 event every month. NOT WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW.
If this is the tactic for the event, how are we supposed to be repaired for the next event that happens 24 hours (I believe is CW so more repair time), and then the next 24 hours after that, and so on. This is not a tactic that is useful since Kix themselves set up this insane schedule. It is just you telling us to coin repairs.
Also, saw this on the War Room from Phillip of BV.
Well getting the bp from event is for coiners... Hit one fleet... Get a single piece of bp... Coin the bp... It will be faster than hitting 9 of those fleets and probably take less coins than the repairs... If your not a coiner... I have some good news for you... In two weeks the cutters and bp will be useless anyway when you'll need the battleship to face the updated alien threats
@CS CHRIS said:
I understand this looks to be quite a daunting challenge, and it is. A few gentle reminders for everyone, though:
Solo targets are balanced at a lower difficulty than Co-Op targets. Your task is not to face a level 95 Co-Op target by yourself. While boss targets will be extremely difficult (they are boss targets, after all), they are balanced for one player to tackle.
Yea but did you even see the lv 90 barrage hives last event? Even Xeno fleets barely made it after the nerf. What makes you think we will have a chance against the new harvs this time?
Did this ever get answered or addressed? Of what Chris said, that is laughable. BALANCED. When the hell has an event ever been balanced properly? If this one is, that probably is one of the couple that have (I think I can count on a hand).
I still can't get over the ****ing 17k DPS fleet that can be created after this event. And with a CW right after, expect to see a few coined.
So a single boss target is smashed and I have 15 hours of repairs, giving me a maximum (If I am lucky) of 7 targets at 5.09 mil points. Now that seems like a lot, until you examine the store prices.
If all you're going to do is take 1 fleet and hit 1 target type, then sure. Seems like you'd be unnecessarily restricting yourself by not using any of your other fleets, or hitting any of the dozens of other targets, many of which hand out tens/hundreds of thousands of points themselves.
This would be an ok tactic if we have 1 event every month. NOT WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW.
If this is the tactic for the event, how are we supposed to be repaired for the next event that happens 24 hours (I believe is CW so more repair time), and then the next 24 hours after that, and so on. This is not a tactic that is useful since Kix themselves set up this insane schedule. It is just you telling us to coin repairs.
Also, saw this on the War Room from Phillip of BV.
It is just more clear that Kix only goal is to squeeze every dollar they can out of VC players then shut the game down and move their staff over to War Commander Rogue Assault.
I have not read the gazzillion posts here so someone let me know pls. Will the BP be available for coins after you unlocked it with one piece? You know the usual pay so you don't have to play system bcs the game is so much fun.
@CS CHRIS said:
I understand this looks to be quite a daunting challenge, and it is. A few gentle reminders for everyone, though:
Solo targets are balanced at a lower difficulty than Co-Op targets. Your task is not to face a level 95 Co-Op target by yourself. While boss targets will be extremely difficult (they are boss targets, after all), they are balanced for one player to tackle.
Yes, the latest Xeno ships with the latest Xeno tech equipped will be the most efficient means to destroy a target. As was mentioned at the start of this season, the highest level tech from the monthly events and various sector activities are subsequently going to be the best to use for the highest level Alien targets. They are not the only means to destroy a target, just the most efficient.
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The latest xeno ships and tech is the most efficient way........... BUT KIX DOESENT GIVE US TIME TO BUILD THEM
Just looking at the tech we can get this event its not even worth our time or money the cluster missile is a 100% flop it misses 90% of the time and the alien version is probably not gonna do much better for double the mass and quadrupled damage cause it will still miss 90% of the time with short **** range may i add. For killing aliens sure but i am guessing the fleets that we have to kill to get the xeno cluster are setup so you have to use xeno cluster and that new fancy armor with 40% alien resistance and 50% explosive that hopefully most people got in the mobilization 3 days ago oh wait 3 days to refit armor that takes 1 day a peice to refit coin that **** on right 30 bucks per punisher to refit just that armor now what if you had to change the build because of the armor thats another few days make it 40 bucks a punisher fleet of 6 gives you 240 bucks just to refit the ships now lets say you already coined them to mk5 thats another 300 bucks and probably another 200-400 to coin and refit them. also the cutter fleet same **** but little less coins a pop to refit to a decent level but still 300 bucks to mk5 and 200-400 for the build and get the mk5s instantly thats about 500-700 bucks per fleet in less then 1 month and thats if you waited for the right time to coin the refits. Yeah kixeye nice money grab its probably only gonna work on 1% of the 10% that coin
Math is correct, however considering how the recent events we should expect another chance next month to get the blue prints. I will work on my new fittings without coining them, and hopefully will have some ships ready for the next event, in meantime i will not care about having a top fleet. Is not worth to spend coins to refit what could be obsolete in few weeks... hence my strategy is to built blank hulls and fit them once I am convinced that the techs will not become obsolete in short span of time. If i cannot kill the boss...let be it, i will try again next event
I basically just gave up on coining anything but reps and only if the tech is even worth getting. I have 5 fleets dead right now and they are not coming back for a while lol. Oh and not a troll response for once, an accually decent responce, no coin April aside from the mk5 upgrades for the battleship cause **** i hate not having mk5 battleships
Erebus LVL 69
Kixeye give everyone 10 billion coins for sticking it out with you this far
I don't want to spent 4-5 minutes to get 5k from old hives to move the phase on.
I am still building to fight reapers and the points are nerf'd
As for having to kamikaze the new hives ... Kix you complete Charlie, uniform, November .. Tango's
In advance ... thank you to you coiners in the forlorn hope who will go get battered and wallet raped till we figure out how to do this without a second mortgage.
This event lasts for 4 days. A single boss target fight at the highest level will earn you enough points to unlock almost any prize in the store, and those are far from the only targets on the map. So don't go into this feeling like you have to completely clean out the store in a day, you have time and you have options. Plan your strategies accordingly.
There is no strategy! The only strategy involved in this event is doing the math to strike the balance between efficient and non-efficient coin usage. A single target at the highest level? Who is able to hit those highest levels? Mega coiners. I'm sure they'll have the event store cleared out on the first day, while non-coiners or casual coiners sit and twiddle their thumbs, waiting on their fleets to repair. This event is ****. Not even nice ****, just old, nasty **** that no one wants.
my guess boss hive will be 1 fat hive with hp and damage of two hives together (meaning twice harder than a common barrage hive)
It won't be so simple. In other case I would be able to do lv 95 harvester with my mk5 mani komodos. 2 or 3 will die before reaching the target, but remaining ones would kill it. I suppose the new harvester just like old one will be able to shoot all ships ate the same time. Forgot about shield switch. Prepare to have 20k or more HP per ship to survive.
i doubt you were killing lvl 90 hives with your komodos in mobilization
Of course I didn't, but I think I would be able to take down one lv 90 hive with them (half of barrage lv 90), so harvester will be sth more than just one hive eith bigger dps and HP. I sure ut will fire at all ships at once.
just one big sigh - will someone at kixeye please have the balls to knock on pp,s office door and say in a loud voice ENOUGH LISTEN TO YOUR PLAYER BASE AND WHAT THEY ARE TELLING YOU - AND ACT ON THE FEEDBACK
We have spent the last four weeks grinding events that offer new tech. What separates this event from those and why is this game more important then family and friends. Why am I too spend 4 hours grinding for event tech that is made obsolete within 2 - 4 weeks? What is the positive gain and how does this accomplish my goals of smashing pixels with other players/having fun?
If someone at Kixeye actually held a degree/training in social engineering or information analysis from a creditable organizations that realizes numbers are not the only information that needs to be looked at in order to achieve the greatest impact.
My time is limited, the game is losing fun points by the week. There will always be another game, but there won't always be another commented customer/community member. Now if we put on a thinking hats, and pull out a behavioral psychology brochure (I don't want anyone to faint from actually having to learn something important/valuable for social gaming) and discover the differences between positive/negative feedback. Apply it the psychology of play, then review Vega Conflict recent/frequencies of events.
What do we end up with? A gaming experience that is largely negative/limited in reward? This cycle will continue as players blow money into the game building the latest fleets. To do what with? The competitive play in the game is quickly being destroyed. As fewer and fewer players are willing to fight there top tier OP fleets, the need to create them lessons. The experience begins to crumble and the community is brought back to the table in a false flag manner as the company strives to continue to bleed it dry.
"Forged in the flames of the original 8k wars" "Participant in the Jova Crusades; the winning side" "I hate cargo fleets. What else do you want me to say" "I attacked you because you stole my piece of cheesecake with cherry toppings." "The government has ordered me to harvest this farm. Please be patient as your base is harvested." IGN: MasonD ~Condolences to all who share a similar name - there can only be one.
The Mob continues to grow. Fleets from alliances ranging from ICU, Goat, SR71, IF, 420, Oops and more!!!! This assembly is shocking peaceful and the attitudes are solidified!
"Forged in the flames of the original 8k wars" "Participant in the Jova Crusades; the winning side" "I hate cargo fleets. What else do you want me to say" "I attacked you because you stole my piece of cheesecake with cherry toppings." "The government has ordered me to harvest this farm. Please be patient as your base is harvested." IGN: MasonD ~Condolences to all who share a similar name - there can only be one.
Soni, update notes may give you some insight into upcoming items but I have never considered them to be promised. But it does feel misleading, doesn't it?
definitly everyhing but thrusters are correct
Ok kixeye, you've done it again, peoplr love alien events as coop, not solo, sure some people like solo targets, but the main reason people play alien is to play with friends, you are destroying this event for everyone, look at your BIG spenders in 1200, they are even pissed, so why don't you listen to everyone and put coop on for this event and slow down a bit with these insane alien levels, gradually putting in higher levels is always good, but adding 20 levels and on top of making it solo makes it impossible for none coiners to do anything
Money drives U crazy don't U?
If this is the tactic for the event, how are we supposed to be repaired for the next event that happens 24 hours (I believe is CW so more repair time), and then the next 24 hours after that, and so on. This is not a tactic that is useful since Kix themselves set up this insane schedule. It is just you telling us to coin repairs.
Also, saw this on the War Room from Phillip of BV.
Just as a heads up.
Well getting the bp from event is for coiners... Hit one fleet... Get a single piece of bp... Coin the bp... It will be faster than hitting 9 of those fleets and probably take less coins than the repairs... If your not a coiner... I have some good news for you... In two weeks the cutters and bp will be useless anyway when you'll need the battleship to face the updated alien threats
Did this ever get answered or addressed? Of what Chris said, that is laughable. BALANCED. When the hell has an event ever been balanced properly? If this one is, that probably is one of the couple that have (I think I can count on a hand).
I still can't get over the ****ing 17k DPS fleet that can be created after this event. And with a CW right after, expect to see a few coined.
It is just more clear that Kix only goal is to squeeze every dollar they can out of VC players then shut the game down and move their staff over to War Commander Rogue Assault.
Will the BP be available for coins after you unlocked it with one piece? You know the usual pay so you don't have to play system bcs the game is so much fun.
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The latest xeno ships and tech is the most efficient way........... BUT KIX DOESENT GIVE US TIME TO BUILD THEM
Long live, co-op.
AlienForCo-OpOnly
Oh and not a troll response for once, an accually decent responce, no coin April aside from the mk5 upgrades for the battleship cause **** i hate not having mk5 battleships
I don't want to spent 4-5 minutes to get 5k from old hives to move the phase on.
I am still building to fight reapers and the points are nerf'd
As for having to kamikaze the new hives ... Kix you complete Charlie, uniform, November .. Tango's
In advance ... thank you to you coiners in the forlorn hope who will go get battered and wallet raped till we figure out how to do this without a second mortgage.
There is no strategy! The only strategy involved in this event is doing the math to strike the balance between efficient and non-efficient coin usage. A single target at the highest level? Who is able to hit those highest levels? Mega coiners. I'm sure they'll have the event store cleared out on the first day, while non-coiners or casual coiners sit and twiddle their thumbs, waiting on their fleets to repair. This event is ****. Not even nice ****, just old, nasty **** that no one wants.
LISTEN TO YOUR PLAYER BASE AND WHAT THEY ARE TELLING YOU - AND ACT ON THE FEEDBACK
If someone at Kixeye actually held a degree/training in social engineering or information analysis from a creditable organizations that realizes numbers are not the only information that needs to be looked at in order to achieve the greatest impact.
My time is limited, the game is losing fun points by the week. There will always be another game, but there won't always be another commented customer/community member. Now if we put on a thinking hats, and pull out a behavioral psychology brochure (I don't want anyone to faint from actually having to learn something important/valuable for social gaming) and discover the differences between positive/negative feedback. Apply it the psychology of play, then review Vega Conflict recent/frequencies of events.
What do we end up with? A gaming experience that is largely negative/limited in reward? This cycle will continue as players blow money into the game building the latest fleets. To do what with? The competitive play in the game is quickly being destroyed. As fewer and fewer players are willing to fight there top tier OP fleets, the need to create them lessons. The experience begins to crumble and the community is brought back to the table in a false flag manner as the company strives to continue to bleed it dry.
"Participant in the Jova Crusades; the winning side"
"I hate cargo fleets. What else do you want me to say"
"I attacked you because you stole my piece of cheesecake with cherry toppings."
"The government has ordered me to harvest this farm. Please be patient as your base is harvested."
IGN: MasonD
~Condolences to all who share a similar name - there can only be one.
I would be happy if they just made the new barrage hives co-op targets.
Co-op is one of the best additions to the game, it added hugely to the fun of the game.
Without co-op its another boring grind.
The Mob continues to grow. Fleets from alliances ranging from ICU, Goat, SR71, IF, 420, Oops and more!!!! This assembly is shocking peaceful and the attitudes are solidified!
"Participant in the Jova Crusades; the winning side"
"I hate cargo fleets. What else do you want me to say"
"I attacked you because you stole my piece of cheesecake with cherry toppings."
"The government has ordered me to harvest this farm. Please be patient as your base is harvested."
IGN: MasonD
~Condolences to all who share a similar name - there can only be one.
So, uh, is there an event happening...?
Umm where's the aliens?
LMAO, KIX ACTUALLY LISTENED TO US, OR MAYBE THE ALIENS DID