Thank you Kixeye for the 20% ship builds

mason.dixen
mason.dixen
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edited 15 Mar 2017, 5:14AM
Just a simple Thank you for the 20% ship builds.    (For 3 hours)



:sunglasses:


thank you!
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  • SpaceMan108
    SpaceMan108
    Greenhorn
    Joined Feb 2017 Posts: 16

    Hi everyone,

    We just had major changes to the game with gating rules to 60, now if pretty much anyone wants to do fvf they need to refit a bunch of ships under lvl 60.

    Can we please get a refit event for 24 hrs? There are a lot of ships that I wanna refit and and use for fvf.

    Due to the new T6 content there is no time to do refits for fvf and it sucks to just watch cuz the ship factory is busy with t6.

    I am sure that more ppl could use better refitted ships and they would do more fvf and coin rep their fleets.

    That is all my alliance teammates talk about, how they wanna refit a bunch of ships for fvf but can't due to T6 builds.

    We did not get a notice allowing us to refit our fleets in anticipation of the new gating rules, so I would think that a refit promotion will go a long way at this moment. :-)

    @coffeepowered
    @CM_Scarlett

    Thank you :-)

  • Christopher Bennett
    Christopher Bennett
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    Joined Aug 2015 Posts: 118
    more like a week of 40% refit discounts prior to the next civil war
  • AngelOfVerdun
    AngelOfVerdun
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 412

    The last refit event was basically due to changes to fleet bay mass, and it only helped the few with FB 12/13.

    The new gating rules affected more players and a refit promotion would go a long way and pay for itself in coin rep and coin refits.

    They can even surprise us with a late announcement cuz, I would even coin whatever ship is building in my factory so that I can refit some ships under that promotion :-)

  • Master of Warring
    Master of Warring
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    How about 1 hour of 100% discount, lol.
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  • RemoceUnstableReacter
    RemoceUnstableReacter
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    Joined Nov 2016 Posts: 481

    @Master of Warring said:
    How about 1 hour of 100% discount, lol.

    LMFAO, I will be happy with 99% discount

  • ENV4U2
    ENV4U2
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    Joined Jan 2015 Posts: 14
    three words for you

    NEVER GONNA HAPPEN
  • jinko821
    jinko821
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2015 Posts: 320

    Hi everyone,

    We just had major changes to the game with gating rules to 60, now if pretty much anyone wants to do fvf they need to refit a bunch of ships under lvl 60.

    Can we please get a refit event for 24 hrs? There are a lot of ships that I wanna refit and and use for fvf.

    Due to the new T6 content there is no time to do refits for fvf and it sucks to just watch cuz the ship factory is busy with t6.

    I am sure that more ppl could use better refitted ships and they would do more fvf and coin rep their fleets.

    That is all my alliance teammates talk about, how they wanna refit a bunch of ships for fvf but can't due to T6 builds.

    We did not get a notice allowing us to refit our fleets in anticipation of the new gating rules, so I would think that a refit promotion will go a long way at this moment. :-)

    @coffeepowered
    @CM_Scarlett

    Thank you :-)

    we had better not. i just started a refit for 3 days
  • AngelOfVerdun
    AngelOfVerdun
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 412

    @jinko821
    Lol I feel your pain :-)
    If it happens, it would be most likely during the legacy event.

  • Darth of 1300
    Darth of 1300
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 563
    refit event for 24 hours wont do ****. Power creep rape will make the ships you get refitted useless in two weeks. Last event we got the punisher, I build one the same day event started. had 2 done and then kix made them useless with the new heavy armor and newer weapon that is way better than the 2 week old weapon so those two ships need refitted. There is another 1 1/2 weeks of refitting. in the middle of my third punisher and now we have the cutters out. unless you spend $200 a month on this game you wont keep up with power creep rape since kix just wants our money now. I'm done spending on bulshit like that. I cant wait to see the end game just so I can move on to something else kix has nothing to do with
  • Andrea Nard1
    Andrea Nard1
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2015 Posts: 2,654
    No a discount is not needed and will only help the coiners.
    What Kixeye should do is to provide a free refit for all those ships that have their level changed because of the new XP values, which does not favor any player and allows everybody to apply a fix. Example is those revs/apocs/cori/heretics/cove manifold fit basers that now cannot hit bases
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  • AngelOfVerdun
    AngelOfVerdun
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 412

    @Andrea Nard1 said:
    No a discount is not needed and will only help the coiners.
    What Kixeye should do is to provide a free refit for all those ships that have their level changed because of the new XP values, which does not favor any player and allows everybody to apply a fix. Example is those revs/apocs/cori/heretics/cove manifold fit basers that now cannot hit bases

    Coiners will coin no matter what.... They want it they wil coin it.... Discount or no discount...

    A refit discount period of 48 hrs is something that kixeye has done before and it helps everyone coiners and non-coiners.

    I highly highly doubt (in fact it will never happen) that kixeye will allow you to do "free refit" for ships that have their xp lvl changed.....

    So let's be realistic and highlight the fact that the players were not given any notice about the gating rule change, thus, something should be done to allow us to refit our ships and play vega fvf again. This only helps kixeye as we will have more repair times and ppl will have fleets at a desired lvl that are worth coin repairing.

    Plus with the release of manifold a lot of players who did not have it before would most certainly like to refit some ships.

    @coffeepowered
    @CM_Scarlett

  • Andrea Nard1
    Andrea Nard1
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2015 Posts: 2,654

    @Andrea Nard1 said:
    No a discount is not needed and will only help the coiners.
    What Kixeye should do is to provide a free refit for all those ships that have their level changed because of the new XP values, which does not favor any player and allows everybody to apply a fix. Example is those revs/apocs/cori/heretics/cove manifold fit basers that now cannot hit bases

    Coiners will coin no matter what.... They want it they wil coin it.... Discount or no discount...

    A refit discount period of 48 hrs is something that kixeye has done before and it helps everyone coiners and non-coiners.

    I highly highly doubt (in fact it will never happen) that kixeye will allow you to do "free refit" for ships that have their xp lvl changed.....

    So let's be realistic and highlight the fact that the players were not given any notice about the gating rule change, thus, something should be done to allow us to refit our ships and play vega fvf again. This only helps kixeye as we will have more repair times and ppl will have fleets at a desired lvl that are worth coin repairing.

    Plus with the release of manifold a lot of players who did not have it before would most certainly like to refit some ships.


    Coiners will always coin, they will just save 25% and that means a loss of income for Kixeye, that why we have so little refitting offers, because during a refitting offer the coiners will refit everything at a discount, while the other players will just have something to refit 25% faster. 

    Coiners have already most probably refit those ships that have their xp changed, therefore a free refit will help the non coiners, and will not be a loss of income for Kixeye... that is just my opinion. 

    We have to consider that Kixeye has the goal of making profit, is not a charitable organization, therefore when asking for something we should always have in mind the profit implication. Of course you will get 40 likes if you have for a 90% discount refit, but it will never happen. 

     
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  • STORM_BREAKER
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    KixeyeHQ: Thats too hard...

  • AngelOfVerdun
    AngelOfVerdun
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 412

    @Andrea Nard1 said:
    AngelOfVerdun said:

    @Andrea Nard1 said:

    No a discount is not needed and will only help the coiners.

    What Kixeye should do is to provide a free refit for all those ships that have their level changed because of the new XP values, which does not favor any player and allows everybody to apply a fix. Example is those revs/apocs/cori/heretics/cove manifold fit basers that now cannot hit bases

    Coiners will coin no matter what.... They want it they wil coin it.... Discount or no discount...

    A refit discount period of 48 hrs is something that kixeye has done before and it helps everyone coiners and non-coiners.

    I highly highly doubt (in fact it will never happen) that kixeye will allow you to do "free refit" for ships that have their xp lvl changed.....

    So let's be realistic and highlight the fact that the players were not given any notice about the gating rule change, thus, something should be done to allow us to refit our ships and play vega fvf again. This only helps kixeye as we will have more repair times and ppl will have fleets at a desired lvl that are worth coin repairing.

    Plus with the release of manifold a lot of players who did not have it before would most certainly like to refit some ships.

    Coiners will always coin, they will just save 25% and that means a loss of income for Kixeye, that why we have so little refitting offers, because during a refitting offer the coiners will refit everything at a discount, while the other players will just have something to refit 25% faster. 

    Coiners have already most probably refit those ships that have their xp changed, therefore a free refit will help the non coiners, and will not be a loss of income for Kixeye... that is just my opinion. 

    We have to consider that Kixeye has the goal of making profit, is not a charitable organization, therefore when asking for something we should always have in mind the profit implication. Of course you will get 40 likes if you have for a 90% discount refit, but it will never happen. 

     

    I understand your concern, but I am sure kixeye has done the math and chose refit discount as the best way to maximize profits.

    Plus you cannot generalize the entire player base as wanting to only refit ships that had xp changes. That is too specific and doesn't help all players who wanna refit ships for whatever reasons from cargo fleets to jav refits to fvf fleets.

    25% refit reduction:
    Coiners: Coin some remaining refits and save 25%, assuming they haven't already coined it already.
    Non-Coiners: Refit at a 25% time reduction.
    Kixeye: (1) Gain revenue from unplanned coin refits, should offset the 25% reduction. Think of it as a sale that leads to more revenue due to impulse spending. (2) Help non-coining players with gating changes.

    Free refit (select ships with xp changes):
    Coiners: refit their entire arsenal that fits the criteria and spend 0 coins. (Most likely to have 10x the amount of ships that fit the xp change criteria compared to non-coiners)
    Non-coiners: refit the few ships that fit the criteria. If you don't have any ships that fit the criteria, then you're stuck with no discount.
    Kixeye: gain 0 profit. Gain goodwill from coiners and non-coiners.

    As you state 90% reduction will never happen and i doubt ppl who request it are serious, but a refit discount as it has already happened before (48 hrs) can happen and the new gating rules is a great reason to give us that reduction as it only increases fvf, coin reps and overall satisfaction.

    The last refit promotion for fleet bay mass changes only helped a few players with FB 12-13 and does not affect 100% of the players as the gating rule change does.

  • Heliosa
    Heliosa
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 62

    I like this idea, we should get a refit discount for at least 48 hrs. The whole gating rule changes have impacted every fleet and refits are beneficial/needed for fvf or fvb.

    Plus kix will make money cuz ppl will coin refits that they wouldn't have otherwise.

  • DeviousDog
    DeviousDog
    Potential Threat
    Joined May 2015 Posts: 55
    They need to create/offer/sell or prize refit tokens, or give to everyone one that lasts for say 7 days and then expires.. as I always miss the refit bonus as Im always in the middle of a long build.  Refit reduction are really for mega coiners.. thats why they are only for 24 hrs.

  • Andrea Nard1
    Andrea Nard1
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2015 Posts: 2,654

    @Andrea Nard1 said:
    AngelOfVerdun said:

    @Andrea Nard1 said:

    No a discount is not needed and will only help the coiners.

    What Kixeye should do is to provide a free refit for all those ships that have their level changed because of the new XP values, which does not favor any player and allows everybody to apply a fix. Example is those revs/apocs/cori/heretics/cove manifold fit basers that now cannot hit bases

    Coiners will coin no matter what.... They want it they wil coin it.... Discount or no discount...

    A refit discount period of 48 hrs is something that kixeye has done before and it helps everyone coiners and non-coiners.

    I highly highly doubt (in fact it will never happen) that kixeye will allow you to do "free refit" for ships that have their xp lvl changed.....

    So let's be realistic and highlight the fact that the players were not given any notice about the gating rule change, thus, something should be done to allow us to refit our ships and play vega fvf again. This only helps kixeye as we will have more repair times and ppl will have fleets at a desired lvl that are worth coin repairing.

    Plus with the release of manifold a lot of players who did not have it before would most certainly like to refit some ships.

    Coiners will always coin, they will just save 25% and that means a loss of income for Kixeye, that why we have so little refitting offers, because during a refitting offer the coiners will refit everything at a discount, while the other players will just have something to refit 25% faster. 

    Coiners have already most probably refit those ships that have their xp changed, therefore a free refit will help the non coiners, and will not be a loss of income for Kixeye... that is just my opinion. 

    We have to consider that Kixeye has the goal of making profit, is not a charitable organization, therefore when asking for something we should always have in mind the profit implication. Of course you will get 40 likes if you have for a 90% discount refit, but it will never happen. 

     

    I understand your concern, but I am sure kixeye has done the math and chose refit discount as the best way to maximize profits.

    Plus you cannot generalize the entire player base as wanting to only refit ships that had xp changes. That is too specific and doesn't help all players who wanna refit ships for whatever reasons from cargo fleets to jav refits to fvf fleets.

    25% refit reduction:
    Coiners: Coin some remaining refits and save 25%, assuming they haven't already coined it already.
    Non-Coiners: Refit at a 25% time reduction.
    Kixeye: (1) Gain revenue from unplanned coin refits, should offset the 25% reduction. Think of it as a sale that leads to more revenue due to impulse spending. (2) Help non-coining players with gating changes.

    Free refit (select ships with xp changes):
    Coiners: refit their entire arsenal that fits the criteria and spend 0 coins. (Most likely to have 10x the amount of ships that fit the xp change criteria compared to non-coiners)
    Non-coiners: refit the few ships that fit the criteria. If you don't have any ships that fit the criteria, then you're stuck with no discount.
    Kixeye: gain 0 profit. Gain goodwill from coiners and non-coiners.

    As you state 90% reduction will never happen and i doubt ppl who request it are serious, but a refit discount as it has already happened before (48 hrs) can happen and the new gating rules is a great reason to give us that reduction as it only increases fvf, coin reps and overall satisfaction.

    The last refit promotion for fleet bay mass changes only helped a few players with FB 12-13 and does not affect 100% of the players as the gating rule change does.

    You have some good points.
    There are pro and cons to both. I personally disagree that there is a need to refit fleets because of the new gating rules, in fact I have seen many players mixing different ships to create a fleet of a certain level. I also did not refit any ships to change my fleets levels, however players have different styles and there might be a lot of people that is willing to refit some ships because of the gate changing. The main issue is that manifold fitting have shot up levels and most of those fleets are above level 60, that forces players to refit, not to use a those ships. 6 manifold revs, level 62 are just sitting ducks.
    The main issue I have with the refitting is that is announced with very short notice and last very short time. Main is the notice we get, many no coiners have long builds going. They have two options, coin it, or cancel it wasting time (resources is not an issue). If a refit is provided with 2 weeks notice (dom building time) it will be good for everybody since players can plan accordingly. The free refit has no such issue, since it can be done at any time without the need of cancelling or coining something
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  • AngelOfVerdun
    AngelOfVerdun
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 412

    @Andrea Nard1 said:
    AngelOfVerdun said:

    @Andrea Nard1 said:

    AngelOfVerdun said:

    @Andrea Nard1 said:
    
    No a discount is not needed and will only help the coiners.
    
    What Kixeye should do is to provide a free refit for all those ships that have their level changed because of the new XP values, which does not favor any player and allows everybody to apply a fix. Example is those revs/apocs/cori/heretics/cove manifold fit basers that now cannot hit bases
    
    
    
    Coiners will coin no matter what.... They want it they wil coin it.... Discount or no discount...
    
    A refit discount period of 48 hrs is something that kixeye has done before and it helps everyone coiners and non-coiners.
    
    I highly highly doubt (in fact it will never happen) that kixeye will allow you to do "free refit" for ships that have their xp lvl changed.....
    
    So let's be realistic and highlight the fact that the players were not given any notice about the gating rule change, thus, something should be done to allow us to refit our ships and play vega fvf again. This only helps kixeye as we will have more repair times and ppl will have fleets at a desired lvl that are worth coin repairing.
    
    Plus with the release of manifold a lot of players who did not have it before would most certainly like to refit some ships.
    
    
    
    
    
    Coiners will always coin, they will just save 25% and that means a loss of income for Kixeye, that why we have so little refitting offers, because during a refitting offer the coiners will refit everything at a discount, while the other players will just have something to refit 25% faster. 
    
    Coiners have already most probably refit those ships that have their xp changed, therefore a free refit will help the non coiners, and will not be a loss of income for Kixeye... that is just my opinion. 
    
    We have to consider that Kixeye has the goal of making profit, is not a charitable organization, therefore when asking for something we should always have in mind the profit implication. Of course you will get 40 likes if you have for a 90% discount refit, but it will never happen. 
    

     

    I understand your concern, but I am sure kixeye has done the math and chose refit discount as the best way to maximize profits.

    Plus you cannot generalize the entire player base as wanting to only refit ships that had xp changes. That is too specific and doesn't help all players who wanna refit ships for whatever reasons from cargo fleets to jav refits to fvf fleets.

    25% refit reduction:

    Coiners: Coin some remaining refits and save 25%, assuming they haven't already coined it already.

    Non-Coiners: Refit at a 25% time reduction.

    Kixeye: (1) Gain revenue from unplanned coin refits, should offset the 25% reduction. Think of it as a sale that leads to more revenue due to impulse spending. (2) Help non-coining players with gating changes.

    Free refit (select ships with xp changes):

    Coiners: refit their entire arsenal that fits the criteria and spend 0 coins. (Most likely to have 10x the amount of ships that fit the xp change criteria compared to non-coiners)

    Non-coiners: refit the few ships that fit the criteria. If you don't have any ships that fit the criteria, then you're stuck with no discount.

    Kixeye: gain 0 profit. Gain goodwill from coiners and non-coiners.

    As you state 90% reduction will never happen and i doubt ppl who request it are serious, but a refit discount as it has already happened before (48 hrs) can happen and the new gating rules is a great reason to give us that reduction as it only increases fvf, coin reps and overall satisfaction.

    The last refit promotion for fleet bay mass changes only helped a few players with FB 12-13 and does not affect 100% of the players as the gating rule change does.

    You have some good points.
    There are pro and cons to both. I personally disagree that there is a need to refit fleets because of the new gating rules, in fact I have seen many players mixing different ships to create a fleet of a certain level. I also did not refit any ships to change my fleets levels, however players have different styles and there might be a lot of people that is willing to refit some ships because of the gate changing. The main issue is that manifold fitting have shot up levels and most of those fleets are above level 60, that forces players to refit, not to use a those ships. 6 manifold revs, level 62 are just sitting ducks.
    The main issue I have with the refitting is that is announced with very short notice and last very short time. Main is the notice we get, many no coiners have long builds going. They have two options, coin it, or cancel it wasting time (resources is not an issue). If a refit is provided with 2 weeks notice (dom building time) it will be good for everybody since players can plan accordingly. The free refit has no such issue, since it can be done at any time without the need of cancelling or coining something

    Lots of good stuff. All I can say is that we need some sort of refit promotion :-)

    Who else wants to refit something and wants a refit promotion?

    Please voice your concern here :-)

  • Heliosa
    Heliosa
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jan 2017 Posts: 62

    This CW should be interesting, I bet a lot of ppl will realize they need to refit a bunch of fleets.

  • nashslash
    nashslash
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined May 2015 Posts: 246

    Refit 25% Discount for 24 hrs ...lol this will beifit no one except uber coiners .


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  • STORM_BREAKER
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    Joined Mar 2016 Posts: 1,920

    @nashslash said:
    Refit 25% Discount for 24 hrs ...lol this will
    beifit no one except uber coiners .

    Exactly, 25% for 24 hours is idk, sooooooooooooooooo frickin less :/

  • STORM_BREAKER
    STORM_BREAKER
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Mar 2016 Posts: 1,920

    @nashslash said:
    Refit 25% Discount for 24 hrs ...lol this will
    beifit no one except uber coiners .

    Exactly, 25% for 24 hours is idk, >sooooooooooooooooo frickin less :/

    >

    Of course it's better than nothing...

  • lukasz.bak85
    lukasz.bak85
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jun 2015 Posts: 129
    40% for 3 days will be a nice compromise
  • Sonidojoo
    Sonidojoo
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Aug 2016 Posts: 2,713
    doensn't matter much how long is refit discount ) you will be able to make only 1 refit with xeno, infernal or swarms
  • Bad Boy Bob
    Bad Boy Bob
    Greenhorn
    Joined Nov 2014 Posts: 20
    refit bay + bacon sandwich please....... sorry no! 
  • Kereg the Fallen
    Kereg the Fallen
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    Joined Dec 2014 Posts: 206

    Lol, open the game and see what you got, lol. 3 hours. 3 freaking hours for refits.

    Did I miss something or is this mini bit of help for heavy coiners only?

    For the mighty Pangolin
  • Kereg the Fallen
    Kereg the Fallen
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Dec 2014 Posts: 206

    3 hours it states. March 15th from 12 pm to 3pm PST

    For the mighty Pangolin
  • mason.dixen
    mason.dixen
    Master Tactician
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 2,156

    3 hours it states. March 15th from 12 pm to 3pm PST

    Dang, I really feel dumb now.  Hopefully the Decimator deal starts before or during.  That would make the punisher refits fly by.
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  • angel_xx
    angel_xx
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 777

    Lol, open the game and see what you got, lol. 3 hours. 3 freaking hours for refits.

    Did I miss something or is this mini bit of help for heavy coiners only?

    Except that it's build discount not refit.
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  • Kereg the Fallen
    Kereg the Fallen
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Dec 2014 Posts: 206

    Don't. I missed it first too. Ajso, it brings more light to the "awesome" refit time.

    Usually the deals start at 3 PST so probably won't. And I really don't see a point to a 3 hour only refit time.

    For the mighty Pangolin
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