@pitabread said:
You do realize that if they gave us a refit bay, they would just increase build and refit times so that there's no net gain.

That's not logical. One does not precede the other. If build times increase after a refit bay, then it will have been done purely out of spite or greed.

A refit bay is the answer to the problem of greed in their perverse fitting times of new content. Where one item is a day of fitting.

@Stefan Mielnik6 said:

@pitabread said:
You do realize that if they gave us a refit bay, they would just increase build and refit times so that there's no net gain.

That's not logical. One does not precede the other. If build times increase after a refit bay, then it will have been done purely out of spite or greed.

A refit bay is the answer to the problem of greed in their perverse fitting times of new content. Where one item is a day of fitting.

You want kixeyes usual answer? clears throat "adding a refit bay would unbalance the game without increase to refit AND build times."
A refit bay is definitely needed... and it can affect build times in a sense where you simply build a blank hull then refit it while building another blank reducing build times quite a bit (amazing for us and very wanted... bad for them because they are greedy bastards.) I would love a refit bay... but kix aint gonna give it

@TwentySixPointTwo said:
You guys really are naive and entitled.

If there was any way for kixeye to implement this is a profitable or revenue neutral way, they would have long ago.

AND there is already a mechanism in the game that allows you to speed things up and works quite well. No need for a refit bay.

YES!!!

@pitabread said:
Stefan Mielnik6 said:

@pitabread said:

You do realize that if they gave us a refit bay, they would just increase build and refit times so that there's no net gain.

If build times increase after a refit bay, then it will have been done purely out of spite or greed.

Lol the only thing kixeye knows is greed. Greed is the reason they haven't given us a refit bay. They could effectively do the same by reducing build and refit times but they're not going to. You really are naive aren't you.

Naive would be saying that kixeye cares about the players and the game more than it does money. I gave you a logical if then assumption.

A refit bay would take how many hours to implement? Any coders here? A few weeks? That's being generous I feel. Let me solve that one for you. Step one, copy the factory, change the "..." Button at the top from taking you to your blueprints to taking you to your already completed ships. Add a button on the ship details screen that directs you to the refit bay.
Done.

Income neutral? How many times do you think a player will coin a build, put it into the refit bay and wait for 10 helps then coin it?
The same amount that they do now. Which is a lot.for the top coiners, they hate seeing the coin button unclicked, so they would coin. Go ahead though and pretend you can see the future.

Tech releases are insane... the game was far better back in flash player days when events were 3 months apart at least (uprising retribution deception and crackdown are the 4 events that spread 3-4 months from each other...) and even though back then ship builds were pretty **** long (fury hit 2 weeks build... dread had 21 freaking days to build a maxxed one...) at least the tech releases were generous enough to let such long builds be worthwhile... make 3 dreads and they couldve lasted a entire year through all the events after its event uprising before being put down by say the rapture back when it was basically the god of cruisers with its near frigate like speed and good mass to easily fit 5 in a fleet. Even the gharial had some use after deception with its blockade runner style of attack... the same style cutters use today.

This is indeed needed. But the business model is to encourage people to coin, not make it easier for non coiners to stay non coiners. So if you want a refit bay or the ability to refit while you build a ship you need to post a proposal that gives us this much needed ability and still retains kix need to "encourage" non coiners to coin. If you dont this will just be another load of empty air as far as kix is concerned.

@Nightmare Deathlock said:

@Aletheides said:
This is indeed needed. But the business model is to encourage people to coin, not make it easier for non coiners to stay non coiners. So if you want a refit bay or the ability to refit while you build a ship you need to post a proposal that gives us this much needed ability and still retains kix need to "encourage" non coiners to coin. If you dont this will just be another load of empty air as far as kix is concerned.

Plenty have suggested make refit bay a purchase only. Or make second refits coin only (though thats countered by simply coin your build and continue). It doesnt exactly make it "easier" for non coiners to not coin... those who coin will still coin regardless since a refit bay is literally there just to refit... hell itll make coiners coim refits constantly while building a new ship if anything which means quick easy profit.

This is the exact reason that a refit bay would generate new revenue. Its in the best interests of both Liz and the players.
Coiners would coin refits and new players would consider dropping $5 here or there because they would see that kixeye deserves it for LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY.
You can only hold a game hostage for so long until the player base abandons it.

Just like at a restaurant, tips are given because of good service.

@STORM_BREAKER said:

@Shrike157 said:
I'm pretty sure @Todd7123 already forwarded this to kixeye about 8 billion times, give up it ain't coming.

I am pretty sure Todd #TypicalYesMan is against idea of refit bay. You should have seen him speak rubbish in the last refit bay post... And have a heated discussion with manni... where he supported kix all the time...

Yeah I was there lol

Todd put me in jail too