Omega Hydra - All the possible combinations
Greetings, Commanders
This is a quick review of the possible Hydra combinations using the GoGo-Bar for testing. we're still waiting to finish building the unit in order to test it properly and reach the final results\notes\observations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGeu5xqfvas
OK.. it might looks like this unit is weaker than expected, but remember:
- it's just at level 1 of the Omega upgrades.
- all its tech components are still at level 1.
- all the opponents are at level 21 promoted.
- it didn't have the best armor type in every part of the video.
This is a quick review of the possible Hydra combinations using the GoGo-Bar for testing. we're still waiting to finish building the unit in order to test it properly and reach the final results\notes\observations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGeu5xqfvasOK.. it might looks like this unit is weaker than expected, but remember:
- it's just at level 1 of the Omega upgrades.
- all its tech components are still at level 1.
- all the opponents are at level 21 promoted.
- it didn't have the best armor type in every part of the video.
Weapon Types |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAaSkdYwy-c
^^Comparing both Uncustomized, and Customized Omega with Burst Armor level 6 against a Rail Launcher at level 10 (Max) operating at full power 100% RoF.
Best defense against the Elite\Omega Hydra, is to always have a mix of the 3 damage types at the same time. never leave your base guarded by Punisher tanks alone. or fill your bunkers with just Commandos.
What do you think, Commanders? please share your thoughts, observations, and corrections in the comments below.
Burst Cannon Best Vs All vehicles especially the Heavy type.
Area Launcher Best Vs Infantry and Buildings.
Gatling Gun Best Vs Light Vehicles and Airborne targets.
Armor Types|
Anti-Burst Armor
Antri-AOE Armor
Anti-Sustain Armor
Mixing both Weapon & Armor results in a 9 Unique Units. the following table shows which targets each combination is good against:
Unit #1 Burst Cannon + Anti-Burst Armor
this should be very effective against armored targets [Heavy Vehicles] like Ultras, Dante, and the Growler. It has explosive shells with splash (maybe +80)
Unit #2 Burst Cannon + Anti-AOE Armor
This should work against the Elite Legion, Legion Clones, Nightmares, and Doran.
Unit #3 Burst Cannon + Anti-Sustain Armor
Very durable against Punisher tanks, Baldur, Inferno, ground Avalanche turrets, and Bunkered Preservers\Operators.
Unit #4 Area Launcher + Anti-Burst Armor
Artillery Launcher is very effective Vs groups of SF infantry.
Works very well in bases filled with ground Rail Launchers, Flood, Blitz, and Ion turrets. It also should work very good vs Commandos, Grenadiers, and any Infantry equipped with the rare version of the M4GX.
Unit #5 Area Launcher + Anti-AOE Armor
Effective Vs bases with SF infantry units that has splash damage like Sarkis and Infiltrators. and ground turrets like the Overwatch.
Unit #6 Area Launcher + Anti-Sustain Armor
This should work vs groups of Heavy\Operators, Preservers, Kara, Sheila, Bro J, and ground Avalanche Turrets.
Unit #7 Gatling Gun + Anti-Burst Armor
This should be very effective against Deena, Cyclones, Airborne Rail Launchers, and Ion turrets.
Unit #8 Gatilng Gun + Anti-AOE Armor
This should work vs Airborne Overwatch, Night Owls, and any Infantry equipped with the rare version of the Adaptive Body Armor.
Unit #9 Gatling Gun + Anti-Sustain Armor
This is for targets like Airborne Avalanche, Pandora, Hailstorms, Jericho, and Hellhounds. The Hydra will be able to withstand a lot of damage from the Hailstorms and shoot them down at the same time, and it will be able to dodge Hellhounds\Jericho’s rockets while shooting at them.
Test #1 Burst Armor level 6 Vs Rail Launcher level 10
This armor reduces incoming burst damage by 90% and area damage by 30%. which increases its durability against Commandos, Ultra tanks, Rail Launchers, ... etc.
but leaves it vulnerable to Sustain damage targets like Operators, Preservers, Punisher tanks, and Avalanche turrets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAaSkdYwy-c^^Comparing both Uncustomized, and Customized Omega with Burst Armor level 6 against a Rail Launcher at level 10 (Max) operating at full power 100% RoF.
Rail Launcher stats:
DPS 661,157
DPR slightly over 2,000,000 damage points.
RoF 8
Omega Hydra level 2 Stats
Health 4,277,800
- The first one without any armor, lost ~90% of its health after 2 shots. killed after 3.
DPS 661,157
DPR slightly over 2,000,000 damage points.
RoF 8
Omega Hydra level 2 Stats
Health 4,277,800
- The first one without any armor, lost ~90% of its health after 2 shots. killed after 3.
- Omega Burst Armor reduces damage by 90% so only ~200,000 damage points will hit it. and it will take about 4,277,800 / 200,000 = 21 ~ 22 shots to die.
What do you think, Commanders? please share your thoughts, observations, and corrections in the comments below.
P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
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Elite are levels 21 to 30 and Omega are 31 to 40, right?
WAR COMMANDER WIKIA
Lead AdministratorIts just to bad you are already past the Elite stages.... I need info for that too..
WAR COMMANDER WIKIA
Lead AdministratorI have to agree... The Omega's are MUCH more powerful in the KRONOS BASE.
Advanced Scout shows the Omega's ( Labeled as just Hydra ) to be all Level 1.
And this power can be seen in this unfortunate player's video....
WAR COMMANDER WIKIA
Lead AdministratorIn game she is listed as Burst.... but in Wrongthinker's forum post Hidden Unit Stats: Revealed! she is listed as Sustain.
SO WHY IS MY JOB SO HARD ON THE WIKI....... this is one of many reasons.... I have her listed as Sustained on the wiki because that is the first official word I got about it..
So which is correct... the UI or the people programming the UI.
WAR COMMANDER WIKIA
Lead AdministratorInteresting to see if they pull from a Spreadsheet like program, that has all the information you need, just badly formatted.
Thanks VERY much troy, low the post you made, such perfection.
Going by logic kara is burst and not sustain as she does a significant pause between her 3 shots. But this is kixeye who we are speaking about.
this video shouldn't be used as a benchmark for the Omega or as a final judgment on its performance. it's just an early look at the unit to see how it behaves in combat, its favorite attack targets & priorities, splash radii of its weapons,..etc. and in some parts of the video the Omega has the right armor & weapon against its target, while in other parts it has the opposite.
I take it that the unit has a base DPS and then gets a bonus for what level of weapon you use, I'm guessing. ( I still need 4 more part to get my own Hydra )
As for Kronos, I wasn't talking about him, obviously he will do Boss scale damage as the other Boss Units have.
I tried doing the Kronos base like I've seen in video's using my Inferno as a bait unit.. but I still can't do the base because by the time I'm 3/4 of the way thru Kronos my inferno is dead.. its only level 2. So close but just out of reach... Lol
Even if I could do a Kronos base I would only be able to do 1 a day with the Inferno repairs... so the chance of getting the 80 parts I need for the Omega Hydra is virtually nill.
WAR COMMANDER WIKIA
Lead AdministratorBoth has a platoon capacity of 750 (562 with maxed war factory) and a workshop capacity of 2000. but
1- the Omega is better in terms of Damage and Health.. which means if your Elite Hydra takes say 4 minutes repair time after an Ion shot, the Omega will take only 3.
2- The Omega has access to double armor boosts from each armor component (the Elite has only 1 per component).
3- The Omega has a special +Damage bonus for each weapon against Vehicles, Infantry, and Aircraft.
4- The Omega's Gatling Gun component can shoot at Airborne targets, the Elite version can't.
5- It has more Mad Max–Style than the Elite.
I will see what I can do to get the pages started.. Thank You!
WAR COMMANDER WIKIA
Lead AdministratorToo bad! it's already at the Omega levels
WAR COMMANDER WIKIA
Lead AdministratorLevel 22 > 30 Elite Hydra DPS Stats
Level 32 Omega Hydra Upgrade
against Dante with the Burst Armor and without.
against Heavy Operators with the Sustain Armor and without.
against Infiltrators with the AoE Armor and without.
and of course test each type of weapon against the 3 types of targets.
her firing pattern is not fixed! it starts as a burst of 3 shots, but once her Bloodlust ability kicks in, she starts firing and reloading more rapidly like any other Sustain unit. and if you equipped her with both Drum Magazine [C\U\R] + Bandolier, the sustained firing pattern will be even more visible.
I though you already passed this?
Oh by the way ..... does the Elite have to be Level 30 before the Omega Parts can be used to upgrade it to Omega??
WAR COMMANDER WIKIA
Lead Administratorby the way thx for making that effort to bring us all the info about the hydra.
for me it looks like the unit isnt worth it. inferno seems to be way more "thick" and the better "tank".
by the way whats repair time for the hydra?
P.S.: Watched the vid now. Is there any unit that DOES NOT kill the hydra easily ... wow this unit looks pretty bad for the effort you have to go through to get it and then level it up for 150 (!) days ... ok customizations were at level 1, but still ... WTF
Or DOES IT simply turn into OMEGA Hydra once ALL the 80 Parts have been collected? Ie, Jumps from L21 to L30 once 80 Omega Parts have been obtained?
but the above ^^ screen shots where taken by a friend (upon my request) when he coined his Elite Hydra.
and yes, the Elite Hydra needs to be upgraded to level 30 before it can be promoted to level 30
first 9 levels = 5 days * 9 = 45 days
promotion to Omega (30) = 5 seconds
upgrading from level 31 to 40 = 10 days * 9 = 90 days
from what I've seen so far, this unit is very durable and dangerous once customized. and I can't wait to upgrade mine to a similar level. we will make a video about its offensive power very soon.
I'll try to get the full repair times and other stats as soon as possible and will keep this thread updated.