Revenge discussion 5/3/16 (Merged Thread)

  • Stuart Petrie
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    85 out post easy right now   but wait till they change it    think changes tomorrow   
  • go tee
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    @RedzComfortGear said:
    Yes they are horrible, just tested my revenge and 4 punisher fleet in a drac base.  This fleet has done the base consistently for 1 hour damage, now revenge died as soon it entered on second turret cluster I targeted and punishers finished off only half of the rest of the base.  If this boat is designed to hit players bases, and players bases have turrets as well as ships, how the heck is it supposed to survive that when it cant clear 8 drac turrets.  Glad I only made 2 but I cant figure out why the punishers died so fast also.  Seems like their deflection stat is gone also.  

    >
    Lol, if you paid any attention to the advertising before during and after raid, you would have known that kixeye were going to make changes to the game this week that would render the revenge useless against ALL Draconian, Reaver, Scourge and forsaken non-player bases and fleets ect. (You know player versus environment, PVE targets). We have all been given plenty of warning that the Revenge is for hitting players bases only. So suck it up princess!

  • Roy Scioneaux
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    Well I hope these whinny base hitters are happy now. thanks Kixeye  for sending the game back to before the turret  weapon defense bypass not only that but now all most all weapons turret or ship is now useless, way to go! Feel sorry for players 50 -60 who don't have anything that could scratch this hull before going to be rough on them to get an objective done without coining bubbles. As for me with what few choices that might make a dent in one of these I'll fight a good fight even if it's not a fair one
    let us be honest here your base was crushed before this hull
    yes that was before I started using a guard fleet added dead eye executioner .frostbite an a few other changes to my base now the last several attackers retreated or died.Honestly never took base defense seriously until weapon defense bypass was added to turrets.But can you sa
  • locotime
    locotime
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    edited 4 May 2016, 3:04AM
    I see plenty of disappointment with the revenge hull now, talking with my buddies and such.
    The disappointment is large with me. Not in the hull so much, but in the way that this is just wrong in so many ways.
    Somebody please make me a sandwich.
  • Jonathan Joseph Schale
    Jonathan Joseph Schale
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 559
    I am liking the changes to the Revenge so far.  I did some bases this evening with them and received far less damage than I do when I hit the same bases with my Punishers.  Not real sure about the weapon for it, which is why I put Earth Shakers on with it.  

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    Been here since 2011... After 9 years... I often wander ... "Is It Worth It?"
  • marky.mack.7
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    Nelson Li said:
    you mean all the hulls with deflections built on it?  yeah, that is the right topic.   I thought they are adding the specific deflection bypass on all the pve targets, but apparently they did bypass to all deflections, including the assault deflection and siege deflection on the punisher, HC and neptune. my punisher took double damage now in fighting 75 armada! before I can do 7-8 75 armada, and now i am dead after finishing 3rd! how the heck we are going to do well in the next raid?
    any point in doing anymore raids if this is the final outcome everytime, ok next ship going to be great for about a week then they will make an excuse it isnt conforming to its design what that actually means is it going to cost kix to much to continue with the design and it not needed now cause we all got it now. May be time to try another game to get off this one.
  • Brian Little
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    I coined 3 boats revenge and was doing well i have 4 boats 2 @75% and 2 @74% i cant even take out a quarter of a drac base now and i was killing 2 drac bases before the change the repair was about 14 hrs   now its 5.5 hr repair and a wimpy boat
  • Brian Little
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    MONEY MONEY MONEY the should give back want we spent on these revenge boats

  • Financeranger
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    wow...my revenge can only do 2 70s now......mines kick their arse. what a joke. More refits a coming? Maybe....I do like the lower repair time!
    Level 102, Collected all the hulls kix wants me to coin! Sectors travels...who cares play the game and don't whine when you get hit!
  • SixOfNine
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    wow...my revenge can only do 2 70s now......mines kick their arse. what a joke. More refits a coming? Maybe....I do like the lower repair time!
    not meant to be used there.  they are for hitting player bases
      
  • August Strindberg
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    Ok, so with this update, are all the changes to deflection and Revenge implemented? Can I start to test and refit now or is there anything else coming within the next few days that I should wait for?

  • John Croxford
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    Lol just had a full fleet hit my base and didn't get to the first corner, its crap even at that lol. I feel sorry for all the money he has spent on a useless fleet.
  • Menkaly
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    SERIOUSLY...Page after page complaining that the Revenge you coined is no longer working on the targets it was never intended to work on!  What part of "PvP (Player vs Player) Base Hitter don't you understand?

    And some of you even set up and "BUILT" your Revenge specifically for PvE because it worked well on the last RAID. Thinking outside the box can work sometimes...but it may not be a good idea to enter a 'bulldozer' in the Indianapolis 500..

    I'm just sayin'...
    MENKALY
    Level 100+

  • scott_y44
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    soo my revenge now takes 5 mins of damage each in a lvl 60 mine now. compared to hitting 3-4 lvl 60 mines for instant repair.

    this smacks of fraud. no doubt this hull will not be any better in the next raid because of this.

    and you hinted that the revenge would be better. so far my revenge has been sitting in the dock useless now.



  • smokie363636
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    Already had one guy relocate just as I was about to hit his base.....no base is safe now mwahahahahaha!

  • peter.altmann.1276
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    Deflection stats have increased.. i thought they started at about 2100.. now mine are up to 3900 and actually do worse than before..  whats the point of deflection that doesnt deflect?
  • Wend Watson
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    edited 4 May 2016, 9:55AM
    When will people get it in thier heads the revenge was never meant for raid fms mines dubs or drac bases .. IT IS PURELY DESIGNED FOR HITTING PLAYER BASES END OF WAS NEVER MEANT TO DO ANYTHING ELSE SO STOP ACTING LIKE DUMMIES ALL THOSE THAT THINK IT SHOULD MAYBE TRY READING WHAT ITS INTENDED FOR IN FIRST PLACE BEFORE CRYING !! sorry for the caps all those people that took time to read its intentional use but am sick of reading all the posts on how it cant do chores etc anymore some people are just plain stupid!!
  • peter.altmann.1276
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    If u read the description on it... the forums... the post
    s on the crib... forsaken council... bv.... and a few others as well as a few alliance pages... comms...
    U would have realized that the revenge was never intended to be so effective vs pve targets and it was meant to be solely used as a base hitter....
    (Pve targets are drac bases, armadas, fm, mines, dubs, tlc, salvs, urfs, monthly raid targets)
    They been saying this for the last 3 months.... if u kept up to date with the info plus read the promost they put on the game with the exclamation mark as well as above the game screen u would know about the changes.


    so not only do we have to keep up with the game itself, we also have to read every forum and watch every video on the subject too so that we know about every change thats upcoming??..  arnt the in-game "chores" enough?
  • Wend Watson
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    edited 4 May 2016, 10:12AM

    If u read the description on it... the forums... the post
    s on the crib... forsaken council... bv.... and a few others as well as a few alliance pages... comms...
    U would have realized that the revenge was never intended to be so effective vs pve targets and it was meant to be solely used as a base hitter....
    (Pve targets are drac bases, armadas, fm, mines, dubs, tlc, salvs, urfs, monthly raid targets)
    They been saying this for the last 3 months.... if u kept up to date with the info plus read the promost they put on the game with the exclamation mark as well as above the game screen u would know about the changes.


    so not only do we have to keep up with the game itself, we also have to read every forum and watch every video on the subject too so that we know about every change thats upcoming??..  arnt the in-game "chores" enough?
    No you just have to read the original post where it told you that revenge was for hitting player bases only.  Anyone with any reasonable understanding would have known this. Where have you been for past 3 or 4 weeks, everyone new about the changes, everyone has been talking about the changes. It is you fault if your playing the deaf dumb and blind kid ( no disrespect on anyone with the disabilities intended )  . I guess you cant play pinball either!!
     
  • peter.altmann.1276
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    If u read the description on it... the forums... the post
    s on the crib... forsaken council... bv.... and a few others as well as a few alliance pages... comms...
    U would have realized that the revenge was never intended to be so effective vs pve targets and it was meant to be solely used as a base hitter....
    (Pve targets are drac bases, armadas, fm, mines, dubs, tlc, salvs, urfs, monthly raid targets)
    They been saying this for the last 3 months.... if u kept up to date with the info plus read the promost they put on the game with the exclamation mark as well as above the game screen u would know about the changes.


    so not only do we have to keep up with the game itself, we also have to read every forum and watch every video on the subject too so that we know about every change thats upcoming??..  arnt the in-game "chores" enough?
    No you just have to read the original post where it told you that revenge was for hitting player bases only.  Anyone with any reasonable understanding would have known this. Where have you been for past 3 or 4 weeks, everyone new about the changes, everyone has been talking about the changes. It is you fault if your playing the deaf dumb and blind kid ( no disrespect on anyone with the disabilities intended )  . I guess you cant play pinball either!!
     

    i think someone needs a life....hahahahahahahahah

  • Wend Watson
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    If u read the description on it... the forums... the post
    s on the crib... forsaken council... bv.... and a few others as well as a few alliance pages... comms...
    U would have realized that the revenge was never intended to be so effective vs pve targets and it was meant to be solely used as a base hitter....
    (Pve targets are drac bases, armadas, fm, mines, dubs, tlc, salvs, urfs, monthly raid targets)
    They been saying this for the last 3 months.... if u kept up to date with the info plus read the promost they put on the game with the exclamation mark as well as above the game screen u would know about the changes.


    so not only do we have to keep up with the game itself, we also have to read every forum and watch every video on the subject too so that we know about every change thats upcoming??..  arnt the in-game "chores" enough?
    No you just have to read the original post where it told you that revenge was for hitting player bases only.  Anyone with any reasonable understanding would have known this. Where have you been for past 3 or 4 weeks, everyone new about the changes, everyone has been talking about the changes. It is you fault if your playing the deaf dumb and blind kid ( no disrespect on anyone with the disabilities intended )  . I guess you cant play pinball either!!
     

    i think someone needs a life....hahahahahahahahah

    I think someone needs to not be so dumb and come back with playground responses. Do not expect people to feel sorry for your own stupidity !!
  • peter.altmann.1276
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    If u read the description on it... the forums... the post
    s on the crib... forsaken council... bv.... and a few others as well as a few alliance pages... comms...
    U would have realized that the revenge was never intended to be so effective vs pve targets and it was meant to be solely used as a base hitter....
    (Pve targets are drac bases, armadas, fm, mines, dubs, tlc, salvs, urfs, monthly raid targets)
    They been saying this for the last 3 months.... if u kept up to date with the info plus read the promost they put on the game with the exclamation mark as well as above the game screen u would know about the changes.


    so not only do we have to keep up with the game itself, we also have to read every forum and watch every video on the subject too so that we know about every change thats upcoming??..  arnt the in-game "chores" enough?
    No you just have to read the original post where it told you that revenge was for hitting player bases only.  Anyone with any reasonable understanding would have known this. Where have you been for past 3 or 4 weeks, everyone new about the changes, everyone has been talking about the changes. It is you fault if your playing the deaf dumb and blind kid ( no disrespect on anyone with the disabilities intended )  . I guess you cant play pinball either!!
     

    i think someone needs a life....hahahahahahahahah

    I think someone needs to not be so dumb and come back with playground responses. Do not expect people to feel sorry for your own stupidity !!

    wow !.. why so mean?...  is this game evrything to you?..   you really really do need to get a life...
  • peter.altmann.1276
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    hahahahahahahahahahah
  • locotime
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    If u read the description on it... the forums... the post
    s on the crib... forsaken council... bv.... and a few others as well as a few alliance pages... comms...
    U would have realized that the revenge was never intended to be so effective vs pve targets and it was meant to be solely used as a base hitter....
    (Pve targets are drac bases, armadas, fm, mines, dubs, tlc, salvs, urfs, monthly raid targets)
    They been saying this for the last 3 months.... if u kept up to date with the info plus read the promost they put on the game with the exclamation mark as well as above the game screen u would know about the changes.


    so not only do we have to keep up with the game itself, we also have to read every forum and watch every video on the subject too so that we know about every change thats upcoming??..  arnt the in-game "chores" enough?
    No you just have to read the original post where it told you that revenge was for hitting player bases only.  Anyone with any reasonable understanding would have known this. Where have you been for past 3 or 4 weeks, everyone new about the changes, everyone has been talking about the changes. It is you fault if your playing the deaf dumb and blind kid ( no disrespect on anyone with the disabilities intended )  . I guess you cant play pinball either!!
     

    i think someone needs a life....hahahahahahahahah

    I think someone needs to not be so dumb and come back with playground responses. Do not expect people to feel sorry for your own stupidity !!
    Looks like the changes are working as intended. Nobody likes it. Pretty obvious. Anybody that likes these changes are full of **** or are just blind to those who help themselves to other peeps cash by not being totally honest. There was nothing in the changes to benifit the player as kix explained it would. Does nobody see the crying this is causing?

    Somebody please make me a sandwich.
  • Wend Watson
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    edited 4 May 2016, 10:26AM
    Because people thought they would be still able to pve /chores etc when was told this was temporary.  I dont mean to insult anyone but please its not hard to understand if a hull is released as a player base hitter and thats it only intention why be upset when you cant do other things with it . It can hit bases and thats what it is intended to do 
  • peter.altmann.1276
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    locotime said:

    If u read the description on it... the forums... the post
    s on the crib... forsaken council... bv.... and a few others as well as a few alliance pages... comms...
    U would have realized that the revenge was never intended to be so effective vs pve targets and it was meant to be solely used as a base hitter....
    (Pve targets are drac bases, armadas, fm, mines, dubs, tlc, salvs, urfs, monthly raid targets)
    They been saying this for the last 3 months.... if u kept up to date with the info plus read the promost they put on the game with the exclamation mark as well as above the game screen u would know about the changes.


    so not only do we have to keep up with the game itself, we also have to read every forum and watch every video on the subject too so that we know about every change thats upcoming??..  arnt the in-game "chores" enough?
    No you just have to read the original post where it told you that revenge was for hitting player bases only.  Anyone with any reasonable understanding would have known this. Where have you been for past 3 or 4 weeks, everyone new about the changes, everyone has been talking about the changes. It is you fault if your playing the deaf dumb and blind kid ( no disrespect on anyone with the disabilities intended )  . I guess you cant play pinball either!!
     

    i think someone needs a life....hahahahahahahahah

    I think someone needs to not be so dumb and come back with playground responses. Do not expect people to feel sorry for your own stupidity !!
    Looks like the changes are working as intended. Nobody likes it. Pretty obvious. Anybody that likes these changes are full of **** or are just blind to those who help themselves to other peeps cash by not being totally honest. There was nothing in the changes to benifit the player as kix explained it would. Does nobody see the crying this is causing?


    TBH.. if you read the terms and conditions it says that kixeye reserves the right to change ANYTHING they want at ANYTIME they want...  so everyone was warned right from the start...  the only people kixeye is hurting by making changes after the fact are the ones who are paying real money for fake toys.. 
  • Wend Watson
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    locotime said:

    If u read the description on it... the forums... the post
    s on the crib... forsaken council... bv.... and a few others as well as a few alliance pages... comms...
    U would have realized that the revenge was never intended to be so effective vs pve targets and it was meant to be solely used as a base hitter....
    (Pve targets are drac bases, armadas, fm, mines, dubs, tlc, salvs, urfs, monthly raid targets)
    They been saying this for the last 3 months.... if u kept up to date with the info plus read the promost they put on the game with the exclamation mark as well as above the game screen u would know about the changes.


    so not only do we have to keep up with the game itself, we also have to read every forum and watch every video on the subject too so that we know about every change thats upcoming??..  arnt the in-game "chores" enough?
    No you just have to read the original post where it told you that revenge was for hitting player bases only.  Anyone with any reasonable understanding would have known this. Where have you been for past 3 or 4 weeks, everyone new about the changes, everyone has been talking about the changes. It is you fault if your playing the deaf dumb and blind kid ( no disrespect on anyone with the disabilities intended )  . I guess you cant play pinball either!!
     

    i think someone needs a life....hahahahahahahahah

    I think someone needs to not be so dumb and come back with playground responses. Do not expect people to feel sorry for your own stupidity !!
    Looks like the changes are working as intended. Nobody likes it. Pretty obvious. Anybody that likes these changes are full of **** or are just blind to those who help themselves to other peeps cash by not being totally honest. There was nothing in the changes to benifit the player as kix explained it would. Does nobody see the crying this is causing?


    TBH.. if you read the terms and conditions it says that kixeye reserves the right to change ANYTHING they want at ANYTIME they want...  so everyone was warned right from the start...  the only people kixeye is hurting by making changes after the fact are the ones who are paying real money for fake toys.. 
    Its a base hitter Peter was plenty of fair warning about it do you think if you keeep complaining that it will change the fact it was only ever intended to hit player bases !!
  • peter.altmann.1276
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    Because people thought they would be still able to pve /chores etc when was told this was temporary.  I dont mean to insult anyone but please its not hard to understand if a hull is released as a player base hitter and thats it only intention why be upset when you cant do other things with it . It can hit bases and thats what it is intended to do 

    Theres nothing to stop you using it on other things besides base hitting.. why not load it up with ballistic defence for amadas or penetrating defence for FM...  Make it what you want.. dont just accept its "only for bases"...  i got all my defences down to zero on my build..  could get more with armours.. eg +20% ballistic defence if i wanted..  then it would do reasonable against armadas..
  • peter.altmann.1276
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    locotime said:

    If u read the description on it... the forums... the post
    s on the crib... forsaken council... bv.... and a few others as well as a few alliance pages... comms...
    U would have realized that the revenge was never intended to be so effective vs pve targets and it was meant to be solely used as a base hitter....
    (Pve targets are drac bases, armadas, fm, mines, dubs, tlc, salvs, urfs, monthly raid targets)
    They been saying this for the last 3 months.... if u kept up to date with the info plus read the promost they put on the game with the exclamation mark as well as above the game screen u would know about the changes.


    so not only do we have to keep up with the game itself, we also have to read every forum and watch every video on the subject too so that we know about every change thats upcoming??..  arnt the in-game "chores" enough?
    No you just have to read the original post where it told you that revenge was for hitting player bases only.  Anyone with any reasonable understanding would have known this. Where have you been for past 3 or 4 weeks, everyone new about the changes, everyone has been talking about the changes. It is you fault if your playing the deaf dumb and blind kid ( no disrespect on anyone with the disabilities intended )  . I guess you cant play pinball either!!
     

    i think someone needs a life....hahahahahahahahah

    I think someone needs to not be so dumb and come back with playground responses. Do not expect people to feel sorry for your own stupidity !!
    Looks like the changes are working as intended. Nobody likes it. Pretty obvious. Anybody that likes these changes are full of **** or are just blind to those who help themselves to other peeps cash by not being totally honest. There was nothing in the changes to benifit the player as kix explained it would. Does nobody see the crying this is causing?


    TBH.. if you read the terms and conditions it says that kixeye reserves the right to change ANYTHING they want at ANYTIME they want...  so everyone was warned right from the start...  the only people kixeye is hurting by making changes after the fact are the ones who are paying real money for fake toys.. 
    Its a base hitter Peter was plenty of fair warning about it do you think if you keeep complaining that it will change the fact it was only ever intended to hit player bases !!

    Like i said.. do i need to read every forum and watch every video out there to know whats going on??..  theres enough game chores to do thanx..  speaking of which.. why the F*&% am i here talking to you?

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