Official Jan Pre-Raid Discussion (Merged Thread)

  • tee.fragall
    tee.fragall
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 357
    Dazandren said:

    smh.  some people just don't get it....  lmao
    you are correct, why anyone over level 70 does not have one of the most important hulls in the game is a huge mystery. This one hull can lower your repair times 40%.
    a multiplicative of 40%... more like 10-20% after native resistances and compound armor, but I agree with its significance. It or the harlock aegis should have been on everyone's radar since their introduction to the game. 
  • Detective_Soulhex129
    Detective_Soulhex129
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    Joined Jul 2015 Posts: 1,466
    Im surprised they have tridents in this raid.... its basically pointless and was out did right after the raid it was in with the blades. BTW FOR THOSE WHO GET IT THE COUNTERMEASURES DONT WORK ON REMOTE TARGET HULLS. found that out the hard way and if the missile range is higher than the countermeasure range
    If you have it on a Remote Targeting Ship such as the Mastodon, you can use a higher Range Missile such as the Blade in order to self-Remote Target. However, the Trident Missile doesn't have Penetrative Defence Bypass like the Harrier does.
    Ya thats what i did with my rhinos i used harriers to make the tridents shoot the same distance but at the cost of not having the counters shooting at all
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  • LIAM_THE_RED
    LIAM_THE_RED
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    With all the talk from DOOMrooster of lowering build times,Why is there no tokens in a raid for a second strait month? I mean TBH i was almost to the point That they KIX was trying with a monthly Token weekend and tokens in the raid and now in the mini. but now we get a hull with 3 armors and with a armor research to lower repair times,is it me or is Kix being run by a crackhead who throws darts at the wall to decide what direction they go from month to month. Are we ever going to get tokens in a raid again? a mod or Kix response is needed, Thank you.
  • tim.logan.31392
    tim.logan.31392
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 655
    How about adding the windego..that would be nice.
  • lomolife1174
    lomolife1174
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    bob.okker said:
    No Tokens? 
    No tokens. Sorry. 


    Is this the new way things are going to go for the time being (unless a change occur). We have not seen any official decision regarding the continuation of tokens. They got removed last raid and we were told it was becaseu it was a hull raid. This month is not a hull raid yet again removed.


    Right now, they are only available throught ELite FM and FAT. Is this suppose to be new direction chosen by the BP team until further notice.


    Has the team decided to remove tokens until the rebalance is completed ?

    They are able to be gained from all Tiers of the FM, though only the Elite Tier has Ship Build Tokens.
  • BREXIT4UK
    BREXIT4UK
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    hoskin said:
    CM DOOMROOSTER
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    Prices have been added to this briefing as of 4:25pm PST. Enjoy!
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    do you mean prizes rather than prices ? or you counting the money already , lol
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  • Detective_Soulhex129
    Detective_Soulhex129
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    How about adding the windego..that would be nice.
    they had the wendigo not that long ago and im surprised they have apoc this raid
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  • Mattva Vaugh
    Mattva Vaugh
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    Joined Jan 2013 Posts: 342
    Pls, ADD some build tokens to the prize list....and i may reconsider coining ....
  • Mad_Scientist
    Mad_Scientist
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    hoskin said:
    hoskin said:
    CM DOOMROOSTER
    KIXEYE Community Manager
    Joined Jan 2014Posts: 2,504
    Prices have been added to this briefing as of 4:25pm PST. Enjoy!
    If you have technical questions, please submit a ticket here.

    Having trouble submitting a ticket? Try this link.

    Not sure about the rules

    I cannot discuss your account ban. Don't ask.
    do you mean prizes rather than prices ? or you counting the money already , lol
    point prices for the prizes
    Meep!
  • The_Saint73
    The_Saint73
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    bob.okker said:
    No Tokens? 
    No tokens. Sorry. 
    There is an overwhelming response from the community that this is unacceptable. We were told there were no tokens in Dec raid as it was a hull store, alright fine, I accept that. However, Jan is not a Hull store so what is the excuse this time? With 36 hours still remaining till the raid, as CM please take this back to Kixeye to ask them to reconsider. 

  • War_StalkeR
    War_StalkeR
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    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 1,244
    Maybe August 2014 is what you meant?

    Not sure what calendar you run on, but on the Julian calendar, August to January is only 5 months.
    Yeah, August 2014. Already fixed that. Thanks.

    So Kixeye, please, Heavy Plating III? Pretty please?
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  • PsychoOgre
    PsychoOgre
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    bob.okker said:
    Hi Doom,

    If this is it you can tell KIX they r killing the game maybe next raid in 3 months with better prizes cause this is it not for me!

    What is missing:

    TOKENS

    SCATTERGUNS

    Whats Wrong in this raid

    A cannon without range

    and more hulls after an hull raid 


    And last but lost least an original Raid Name.


    A weapon without range? Did you not look at the modifiers on the new ship? This thing will do 95 range easy with the hull and specials already in the game, it would do that on a crusader and this hull way out classes the crusader.
  • Whirlpool
    Whirlpool
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    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 173
    how come the arblest cannon is not offered or blades you seem to skip prizes that would push ppl to do the raid these have not been offered in a long while

  • PsychoOgre
    PsychoOgre
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    If the punisher has a 40% increase in range. What is it with nuclear accelerators with the new gun or arb? And yes I'm lazy
    The same as SCX/Crusader/Templar/Goliath/(non Gamma)Behemoths. With Nuclear Accelerator + 50 Range Ballistic Weapon = 95 range.
    I get all that. My question was in addition to these. The Punisher also adds 40% range...So it is more than 95. So if its 105 as another stated. Is that the longest range out right now? Or the drac carrier with the chaining?
    LMAO! This is almost to funny guys and gals. The Crusader has a 40% range increase, just like the new ship. The Arbelest has the exact same top range as the new gun (50). With the nuke accelerator buff of 50% this will result in exactly the same range as a crusader with nuke accel and arbelest, 95!
  • sliceNdice
    sliceNdice
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    Vinnyc said:
    bob.okker said:
    No Tokens? 
    No tokens. Sorry. 
    There is an overwhelming response from the community that this is unacceptable. We were told there were no tokens in Dec raid as it was a hull store, alright fine, I accept that. However, Jan is not a Hull store so what is the excuse this time? With 36 hours still remaining till the raid, as CM please take this back to Kixeye to ask them to reconsider. 

    Hate to break it to you but the overwhelming response from the community means exactly nothing. 

    Kixeye makes the decisions. Not you. Not me. Something the community sees as "unacceptable" is not necessarily unacceptable in the eyes of the company.
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  • PsychoOgre
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    I think I have to disagree with most here, in that I kind of like what I see for the prize list.
     We have been told in the State of the Game that tech was running away (power creep) and the team was working on it. Here we have a new weapon, its not so different from the arbelest we already have, but it is slightly different, I will be interested to see how it does in FvF and in base attacks, I cant imagine that it will cut thru walls any faster than the arbelest does, so the accuracy and piercing is the difference I see, variety without power creep is good. I think the hull can be built as a tank fairly well, its also fast, not as heavy as a crusader, kind of like a drac version of the crusader in my eyes (My only beef here kix, FORESAKEN are supposed to be the specialist in ballistics hulls, why are you giving the dracs one? Could have been a new missile hull or nuke cruiser, let them find their own niche!   :p  ) again more variety without a super jump in power creep, though I believe this hull is right at the edge of serious power creep. The rest of the tech in the list, geeze pirates, if you dont  like it you dont have to go after it, get what you want next time it comes around! To my eyes this new set of ship/weapon is exactly what they promised us.

    Getting tired of all the rants, why does everybody seem to think they need all the tech right now? For that matter why does everybody seem to think they need ALL of the tech? Get what interest you, if that is attained (or un-attainable) get the next best, have some fun, help some little guys, and just enjoy! If you dont like the raid sit it out (what I did for the scourge raids, not only because of the fact my fleets were just not suited for those  raids, but because I simply am not much of a sub guy [admitted, those tigers are awefully nice...])  go build the other hulls everybody is yelling about not having time to build because of new stuff, lol, dont get the latest new stuff, build your other new stuff! Just saying.......
  • josh v2
    josh v2
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    Joined Jul 2015 Posts: 19
    Siege Battery I and Siege Battery III but no Siege Battery II? Can this be added to the prize list please?
  • Loco266
    Loco266
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    Aseoph said:
    Aseoph said:
    If the punisher has a 40% increase in range. What is it with nuclear accelerators with the new gun or arb? And yes I'm lazy
    Range would be about 105
    Nope, 40% hull range + Nuclear Accelerator's +50% + 50-range Arbalest/Drac Railgun = 95.
    50 x 1.5 x 1.4 = 105... do your maths again
    Read the link in my sig mate. Additive interaction, not multiplicative. It's the same range as the Crusader with Arbalests (identical boosts, 40% on hull, 50% from special, from an identical base of 50), which is *GASP* 95!
    I'm starting to understand Magic Bunny's perspective...
  • Dazandren
    Dazandren
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    if i can get this new hull, i'm gonna stop everything i have going and build a fleet of these for the express purpose of gathering uranium from drac 75 armadas.  at 30k per, uranium should no longer be a problem for me.  thankfully i'm in a sector that always seems to be in the yellow, so this way i can help out and keep us in orange!   B)
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  • Dazandren
    Dazandren
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    CM DOOMROOSTER
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    Prices have been added to this briefing as of 4:25pm PST. Enjoy!

    woohoo!  thanks!  limiteds appear very affordable
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  • kixeyeuser_1409250182434_100007814357803
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    bob.okker said:
    No Tokens? 
    No tokens. Sorry. 
    Is this the new direction the BP team is taking to reduce ship build times?
    Will tokens no longer be offered to players via monthly raids? At least in the near future?

    Doom, I would really appreciate a response on this.
  • RainbowPride
    RainbowPride
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    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 644
    add tokens and thatl be more than a incentive for me to do this raid.
  • Leave the Subs Be
    Leave the Subs Be
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    Last month was an outrage we didn't have tokens.  We were told then it was because it was a hull raid.  Now here we have a non-hull raid and we have no tokens again??????   That's ludicrous.   So what's the story on the reason for the tokens drop now?  
  • Dark Raven
    Dark Raven
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    NO TOKENS makes  me sad :....(
  • THE_DUKE
    THE_DUKE
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 382
    How many redeems each teir hope it's not 2 again 
  • uuuuuugghhhhh
    uuuuuugghhhhh
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    edited 13 Jan 2016, 7:39AM
    THE_DUKE said:
    How many redeems each teir hope it's not 2 again 

    Prizes

    Players are limited to 3 prizes for Tiers 1, 2, and 3 and 2 prizes for tiers 4 and 5.


    its in the briefing

  • Grumpy Pirate
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    Vinnyc said:
    bob.okker said:
    No Tokens? 
    No tokens. Sorry. 
    There is an overwhelming response from the community that this is unacceptable. We were told there were no tokens in Dec raid as it was a hull store, alright fine, I accept that. However, Jan is not a Hull store so what is the excuse this time? With 36 hours still remaining till the raid, as CM please take this back to Kixeye to ask them to reconsider. 

    There's nothing for them to reconsider - they think that now they've reduced the build times on 7 weapons and thrown out the R&D bullcrap the game is fixed and players don't need/want tokens any more.

    My guess is that the FM will be the next thing to lose tokens then the FAT will get another "overhaul" after the regular arena has been dicked around with a bit and we'll see the last source of tokens go.

    This is the Time Limited Campaigns of old all over again - Kixeye are taking away what the players like, benefit from and want to keep under the guise of "cutting down the chores." It was bullcrap then and it's bullcrap now..... but now the CM isn't even bothered to try and put glitter on the ****, he's just throwing it at the community and expecting them to take it because at least a few out there will do exactly that and continue to pay for the privilege.
  • GUITARDTB
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    edited 13 Jan 2016, 8:43AM
    Attn : CM DoomRooster / Scarlett,

    When will you add HEAVY PLATING 3 to raid or FM list ?
    Thx 
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  • Duckyyy
    Duckyyy
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    Joined Jun 2013 Posts: 1,953
    edited 13 Jan 2016, 9:45AM
    Kixeye, please just add seawolves to the raid for us all to fight so we all have it easy, and have all prizes available to us to keep the moaners happy. They demanded everything they ask for, they have no patience and if you don't do as they say they will fire the "and you say you were changing?" comment at you.

    Good golly God folks, it is what it is. If there is nothing you want to win, don't play it. It's not a must. If you're not happy with the build times, don't build them. Life goes on, and so does this game. Accept what we have and fight back the tears. Yes, there's not an awful lot that I could use at the moment, but i'll still give it a go, and if I get nothing, I won't be crying, I just get a few days off the game.

    You will never keep everyone happy Kix, so don't change the prizes for those few greedy bastards. Keep it as it is, and work on future things instead of worrying about adding some tokens or prizes.
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