Would you be interested in these proposed changes to the Forsaken Arena?

  • TheSilent_Kill
    TheSilent_Kill
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    I like it but I want you to finish all of the other features first. If the other features are not finished, then there is no need to work on this.

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  • ChaosGiga
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    Why can't this be implemented into the regular game mechanics instead of being a side quest type thing i.e. like our actual fleets we have built already and want to hit people's fleets on the map with. This is afterall a part of the REAL battle pirates and not a side server portion of the game. I'd prefer having to buy new hulls each month or waiting to win them later in FM for free while having free repairs for fleets and waiting on 6 month builds than this endless side server crap that takes away from the original game. Sorry if the truth hurts but this is why most end gamers are just fed up, nothing is being done to the ACTUAL LIVE GAME.
     
  • FiremanHawk
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    free or not, i dont need something else to do. dont have time to keep up now with chores just from weekly and getting U
    It's pretty much as far as you could possibly get from something you need to do. It's for fun. People complain and say all there is in the game is chores then they get something fun and instantly attack it? smh
    i attack it because once again there spending time adding new crap when we ask them to fix the old crap. the devs time needs to be spent on fixing repair and build times. not adding even more new **** that probably wont work anyway just like everything else. 
  • Paul Hatch
    Paul Hatch
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    I'd like to say, that the original FAT with Uranium Damage Protection was awesome, except for it came down to fleets you had. This was addressed by the "Toy Box", but Uranium Damage Protection was removed, so it came down to the gold on your account. I think if you combined the Toybox with Uranium Damage Protection, you'd have a product 99% of the community will love, because it would add value to the game, that is lacking it.
    I agree with price but all i care about is ship build times at the moment i honestly dont know how much longer i will play this game with the current build times
  • LtlAngryMeanDude
    LtlAngryMeanDude
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    id like you to fix the current problems, and stop creating new problems to fix

  • chiyaCoder
    chiyaCoder
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    am not sure how this thing is going to behave , arena used to be fun for a couple of months at start. maybe add option if u pay something u get some reward
  • michaelg21
    michaelg21
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    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 2,166
    Doom I am also neutral on this as well-like others have said this could be an OK idea. That being said-like others mentioned-there are other problems with the game that vastly outweigh this such as repair times, repair times and repair times. THIS should be address first. This problem is so out of control that this one problem is making the game less and less fun over time.
  • SI_SE_PUEDE
    SI_SE_PUEDE
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    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 36
    i stopped playing the FAT when u took Uranium repair insurance away....with the proposed format i would take part in this feature again

    noob :p The Concept:

    We are thinking about making Forsaken Arena  not FAT absolutely free and giving players an easy way to find and enjoy watching highly skilled players in FvF matches.

    Key Points:
    - Forsaken Arena will be free-to-play. No uranium required and repairs will be not be necessary.
    - Through a new filter in the Locator, you will be able to find and view live FvF matches between the highest-level players.
    - There will be slots up to 10 viewers allowed per battle to make viewing easier and more engaging.
    - With the Arena being absolutely free of any costs and repairs, there will be no VXP rewarded for these battles.
    not FAT 
  • SI_SE_PUEDE
    SI_SE_PUEDE
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    edited 12 Jan 2016, 2:10AM
    i stopped playing the FAT when u took Uranium repair insurance away....with the proposed format i would take part in this feature again

    noob :p The Concept:

    We are thinking about making Forsaken Arena  not FAT absolutely free and giving players an easy way to find and enjoy watching highly skilled players in FvF matches.

    Key Points:
    - Forsaken Arena will be free-to-play. No uranium required and repairs will be not be necessary.
    - Through a new filter in the Locator, you will be able to find and view live FvF matches between the highest-level players.
    - There will be slots up to 10 viewers allowed per battle to make viewing easier and more engaging.
    - With the Arena being absolutely free of any costs and repairs, there will be no VXP rewarded for these battles.
     noob :p  not FAT 
  • yoyotramy
    yoyotramy
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jan 2015 Posts: 4
    if u increase the vxp in the arena more pepole play no tacke the vxp away that is why most pepole play
  • dupamahn
    dupamahn
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    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 5

    Repairs?? A fleet sunk in combat would require repairs right.......or did I read it wrong??

    Dupa
  • AnEyeForAnEye
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    Joined Feb 2014 Posts: 7,191
    I'd like to say, that the original FAT with Uranium Damage Protection was awesome, except for it came down to fleets you had. This was addressed by the "Toy Box", but Uranium Damage Protection was removed, so it came down to the gold on your account. I think if you combined the Toybox with Uranium Damage Protection, you'd have a product 99% of the community will love, because it would add value to the game, that is lacking it.

    Tho this is a great idea Price and i agree with you, the proposed change in this thread presented by Doomrooster are specific to the Regular Forsaken Arena available 24/7, not the Tournament.
  • James5446
    James5446
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 550
    i could think of at least 3 other ways to make the arena better. 

    how about letting us select an npc opponent? no more waiting.
    or make it a ranking outlet?
    or challenge players directly, (select your opponent)
  • darkriblet
    darkriblet
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    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 212
    If there is no prizes or Vxp then I dont really care about it. I personally like the arena to test out different fleet builds that I plan on making. I think it would be cool if you could build a fleet and go in a survival mode or endurance mode of like 10 waves of fleets and see if you can make it to the end. Would you have all your blueprints to build with or will everything be unlocked for everyone?
  • aaron.keyes.9
    aaron.keyes.9
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    Joined Jun 2013 Posts: 464
    i voted NO. you know what changes i would like to see? changes to the problems that already exist in game. get back to what is important, this stupid arena crap needs to be shelved until build and repair times have been brought under control. fix what matters before you add even more pointless stuff.
  • GUITARDTB
    GUITARDTB
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    edited 12 Jan 2016, 2:57AM
    What bonus / prizes shall we get from Arena ?
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  • sliceNdice
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    GUITARDTB said:
    What bonus / prizes shall we get from Arena ?
    I hope they keep it the way it has been recently. Nothing game-changing. Just skins and cosmetic stuff is good with me.
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  • beel78
    beel78
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    edited 12 Jan 2016, 3:25AM
    while the idea is cool.  Way too many other things that need to get fixed and taken care of before more man hours are devoted to....well basically decorations.
    P.S. why only "high level" players.  if it is free.  not everyone can do it?

  • Laredo
    Laredo
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    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 18,723
    Its the basic arena, not a FAT of any type.  Its to get more action in the arena for free using your fleets.  No repair cost to your fleets.  Just fight, hit instant repair and fight again.  No toybox, VXP awarded, skins, bling or gold.  Just battle for free with your fleets for bragging rights.
  • AnEyeForAnEye
    AnEyeForAnEye
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    edited 12 Jan 2016, 3:30AM
    GUITARDTB said:
    What bonus / prizes shall we get from Arena ?
    So far based on Doom proposal, nothin other then practice and bragging rights. But it would cost nothin as well.
  • wulfgaran
    wulfgaran
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    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 731
    i could see myself killing a few minutes here and there watching arena battles. Good way to get some fleet/build ideas

    And when you have a new ship built and you want to test it. You could fight a real tough opponent (with no repair) 
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  • TetraGrammatonCleric
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    edited 12 Jan 2016, 3:35AM
    I don't care much for PVP. I've made that very clear.
    However, many people have said just as clearly that they like PvP as much as I hate it.

    What Doom proposed here is the closest thing to true PvP I could ever expect to see in this game.

    Anyone who doesn't support this can't turn around and say that they are interested in PvP.

    Personally, I don't care at all for this, but that being said, I still voted for this being a good idea because there are other players around me who would like it, and everyone should be able to get some enjoyment out of the game, even if it looks different for different people.

    Edit: If you are looking for awards, then shove off. PvP isn't about shiny bling. PvP is about proving that you are better than the other guy. If that doesn't interest you, then don't say you are interested in PvP.
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  • sliceNdice
    sliceNdice
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    I don't care much for PVP. I've made that very clear.
    However, many people have said just as clearly that they like PvP as much as I hate it.

    What Doom proposed here is the closest thing to true PvP I could ever expect to see in this game.

    Anyone who doesn't support this can't turn around and say that they are interested in PvP.

    Personally, I don't care at all for this, but that being said, I still voted for this being a good idea because there are other players around me who would like it, and everyone should be able to get some enjoyment out of the game, even if it looks different for different people.

    Edit: If you are looking for awards, then shove off. PvP isn't about shiny bling. PvP is about proving that you are better than the other guy. If that doesn't interest you, then don't say you are interested in PvP.
    Why do I have to prove it if I KNOW it?

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  • TetraGrammatonCleric
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    I don't care much for PVP. I've made that very clear.
    However, many people have said just as clearly that they like PvP as much as I hate it.

    What Doom proposed here is the closest thing to true PvP I could ever expect to see in this game.

    Anyone who doesn't support this can't turn around and say that they are interested in PvP.

    Personally, I don't care at all for this, but that being said, I still voted for this being a good idea because there are other players around me who would like it, and everyone should be able to get some enjoyment out of the game, even if it looks different for different people.

    Edit: If you are looking for awards, then shove off. PvP isn't about shiny bling. PvP is about proving that you are better than the other guy. If that doesn't interest you, then don't say you are interested in PvP.
    Why do I have to prove it if I KNOW it?

    ;)
    Slice, everyone knows you are the best.. the arena is for other people. You should not join.
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  • Lucky Luke
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    I don't care much for PVP. I've made that very clear.
    However, many people have said just as clearly that they like PvP as much as I hate it.

    What Doom proposed here is the closest thing to true PvP I could ever expect to see in this game.

    Anyone who doesn't support this can't turn around and say that they are interested in PvP.

    Personally, I don't care at all for this, but that being said, I still voted for this being a good idea because there are other players around me who would like it, and everyone should be able to get some enjoyment out of the game, even if it looks different for different people.

    Edit: If you are looking for awards, then shove off. PvP isn't about shiny bling. PvP is about proving that you are better than the other guy. If that doesn't interest you, then don't say you are interested in PvP.
    I can see where you think that.

    PvP in Battle Pirates was always about base hitting and FvF was a distant cousin. Base hittin is were legends were made. I can list a few big names like ****, Naphalm , Phantom Assassin and Admiral Akbar and his FF's!. 

    I can list one well known PVE player only, Highlander. Thats it...

    I can not think of one well known/famous FvF player...

    Arena was created because the FvF player wanted more FvF, but they didnt..they wanted more chances of catching base fleets with subs (back when a base fleet just died when hit by subs- unlike today).

    Is FvF PvP? Yes of cause it is

    Is it something most PvP care about? No, its not. It was once but those times are long, long, long, gone. FvF was an unwanted cousin well before the War Room went politically correct.
  • Financeranger
    Financeranger
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    Joined May 2011 Posts: 462
    make it a sandbox....so players can learn what to build...love it!

    Level 102, Collected all the hulls kix wants me to coin! Sectors travels...who cares play the game and don't whine when you get hit!
  • War_StalkeR
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    I like everything except to make it free and without reward. You must make it cheaper to be more attractable and still provide good VXP rewards.
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  • AnEyeForAnEye
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    I don't care much for PVP. I've made that very clear.
    However, many people have said just as clearly that they like PvP as much as I hate it.

    What Doom proposed here is the closest thing to true PvP I could ever expect to see in this game.

    Anyone who doesn't support this can't turn around and say that they are interested in PvP.

    Personally, I don't care at all for this, but that being said, I still voted for this being a good idea because there are other players around me who would like it, and everyone should be able to get some enjoyment out of the game, even if it looks different for different people.

    Edit: If you are looking for awards, then shove off. PvP isn't about shiny bling. PvP is about proving that you are better than the other guy. If that doesn't interest you, then don't say you are interested in PvP.
    I can see where you think that.

    PvP in Battle Pirates was always about base hitting and FvF was a distant cousin. Base hittin is were legends were made. I can list a few big names like ****, Naphalm , Phantom Assassin and Admiral Akbar and his FF's!. 

    I can list one well known PVE player only, Highlander. Thats it...

    I can not think of one well known/famous FvF player...

    Arena was created because the FvF player wanted more FvF, but they didnt..they wanted more chances of catching base fleets with subs (back when a base fleet just died when hit by subs- unlike today).

    Is FvF PvP? Yes of cause it is

    Is it something most PvP care about? No, its not. It was once but those times are long, long, long, gone. FvF was an unwanted cousin well before the War Room went politically correct.
    I my view player still want FVF, the arena did very well at 1st when cost were reasonnably low. It when cost went up that it died out.

    Same goes for FVF on the map defending a base. It was great and fun until the cost sky rocketed, then player did a fight, win or lose, and went up and waited 24h for the re repair. But when it was 5-10 coins, they coin it 3-4 time going back and forth or  sending multiple flt.

    Yes it is fun, but players are not going to spend hundred of coins to FVF, no way, not in todays economy. That what kix need to realize.

    Will player participate in a pointless no reward battle for free. Maybe once or twice, but a reward will have to exist (even a small one) for it to even be interest above every thing else player or want to do.
  • filmbryan1
    filmbryan1
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    Actually I'm a fan of this idea. At the very least the smack talk could be fun.
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