Meh, not too exciting. Further repair reductions will be nice. Kix needs to look further into build/refit times. That is the biggest draw back for me, repair times are better now than they were.
I hope the new FM content you mentioned is bought into the fm after the raid and not this week - that would really P me off.
Overall it looks good - looking forward to base planner and alliance changes. Also looking forward to the stats for the coldsnap turret - will it be another Drac Scattergun or a Dead Eye Ballista of a turret......
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Interesting so far. I'll wait till I see the content before I weigh in. ATM it looks good on paper. But a lot of the previous content was the same and flopped on release day.
Unless the cost to coin rank takes a huge dive the change to that system is pointless.
When will we be seeing the build times get addressed or are they going to be.
When will we be seeing the build times get addressed or are they going to be.
The state of the game post suggested it was in the works for Jan-March.
I, personally, am afraid to start any major builds right now. I don't have the time, or patience, and I've got at least 14 two-to-three-day refits that I need to do in advance of the raid. I haven't even started my first drac bomber build, and those are all 12-day builds (so, I guess I'll let you guys know what I think in 6 months or so).
The build time thing is ridiculous. I understand completely why it's still an issue - money - but as a low-spending player it REALLY pisses me off that the team didn't even bother to de-escalate the costs of old hulls as they rolled out new ones.
EDIT: Might as well try to stay on topic: I like what i read here, but it's not what I wanted to read. The base defense fleet thing should have been done years ago, and I appreciate the continued drop in repair costs. A base turret is nice but, as others have pointed out, it needs to be seen in action.
kix ur idiots mega hull who wants that, when do we get the reduction in special build time and maybe take a little off the hulls, thats why u get **** all coin outta me and why there is so many hacks
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When will we be seeing the build times get addressed or are they going to be.
The state of the game post suggested it was in the works for Jan-March.
I, personally, am afraid to start any major builds right now. I don't have the time, or patience, and I've got at least 14 two-to-three-day refits that I need to do in advance of the raid. I haven't even started my first drac bomber build, and those are all 12-day builds (so, I guess I'll let you guys know what I think in 6 months or so).
The build time thing is ridiculous. I understand completely why it's still an issue - money - but as a low-spending player it REALLY pisses me off that the team didn't even bother to de-escalate the costs of old hulls as they rolled out new ones.
EDIT: Might as well try to stay on topic: I like what i read here, but it's not what I wanted to read. The base defense fleet thing should have been done years ago, and I appreciate the continued drop in repair costs. A base turret is nice but, as others have pointed out, it needs to be seen in action.
I can totally sympathize with you. Building tigers ATM 26 days a pop. Have a few minor refits on em after the last one finishes. Also have some base guard refits i would like to do but don't really see the point in wasting time there for the long que. wish I could afford to play the game The way I would like to.
I hope the new FM content you mentioned is bought into the fm after the raid and not this week - that would really P me off.
Overall it looks good - looking forward to base planner and alliance changes. Also looking forward to the stats for the coldsnap turret - will it be another Drac Scattergun or a Dead Eye Ballista of a turret......
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I find the insistence that we have four prizes every month annoying. One of the very limited number of efforts Kix has put in place to address build times is the token, and that is getting suppressed by massive increases in tech still. I will give some credit though, none of these prizes seem especially insulting to the player base like the oil slick and explosive system 4 from last FM cycle was.
Hmm. Sounds good, but I have a few comments: Sector threat- Good, but remember that it's only going to help if they actually spawn enough- that's the issue right now. I'd go so far as to suggest a target that pays no uranium but a lot of progress might have a role to play here, if you really don't want to crank uranium availability any higher. Alliance improvements: Finally. Base defence fleets: Nice, but not that important in the big picture Armour reductions: good, but can we have the mechanism changed to not be so ridiculous, counter unintuitive, and utterly unhelpful to people taking, say, 50% damage?
FM content: Solar panels: This is an interesting one. What happens when the structure these are on is destroyed? Does the rest of the base loose some power/effectiveness, or is the tradeoff here purely build time and slot availability? D5-M: Can I suggest this be called D5-D, not M? M is penetrating resist armours. Sounds a good blueprint, though.
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I see 4 new FM tech items listed. Does that mean we are getting 4 Tier 4 items again this month? If so does that mean the devs have officially decided we do not need a tech slowdown we need a tech addition speedup? I would love those build tokens but I have to say the FM is way to boring to bother doing twice in a week.
Maybe when my tigers are finally done a couple weeks from now and after I make some minor changes to my Rinos now that I have better tech I can finally start on my drac carriers. Those should be done sometime in March. Thinking that means no point in spending money on the next raid as I might as well wait and win the Feb or March hull instead as I will not have time to build the Jan hull anyway.
The point being I am not willing to be bored by a game just to get build tokens and without those build tokens I have no reason to not skip every other monthly raid as I can only build every other ship you release.
you don't need to win every single prize - choosing what to win based on what you are able to build within a reasonable time is a good strategy. I aim to win 3 or 4 hulls per year then catch up with any must haves that i missed at the next hull raid. Basic rule of thumb is that there will be a great hull available next month so you don't win the one available this month
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I see 4 new FM tech items listed. Does that mean we are getting 4 Tier 4 items again this month? If so does that mean the devs have officially decided we do not need a tech slowdown we need a tech addition speedup? I would love those build tokens but I have to say the FM is way to boring to bother doing twice in a week.
Maybe when my tigers are finally done a couple weeks from now and after I make some minor changes to my Rinos now that I have better tech I can finally start on my drac carriers. Those should be done sometime in March. Thinking that means no point in spending money on the next raid as I might as well wait and win the Feb or March hull instead as I will not have time to build the Jan hull anyway.
The point being I am not willing to be bored by a game just to get build tokens and without those build tokens I have no reason to not skip every other monthly raid as I can only build every other ship you release.
Sadly doin FM twice in a week isnt a choice anymore. It was meant the way, but kixeye has decided that to be an Elite player, you need to od it twice a week. Hence, sincethey need 2 weeks to earn all of them and there desire to reduce token avaialbility, limitng to 1 week twice is enough in the eyes.
Yes doin FM twice should be a choice, but kixeye is aiming there game at a very specific group of player telling the rest to play or leave.
I see 4 new FM tech items listed. Does that mean we are getting 4 Tier 4 items again this month? If so does that mean the devs have officially decided we do not need a tech slowdown we need a tech addition speedup? I would love those build tokens but I have to say the FM is way to boring to bother doing twice in a week.
Maybe when my tigers are finally done a couple weeks from now and after I make some minor changes to my Rinos now that I have better tech I can finally start on my drac carriers. Those should be done sometime in March. Thinking that means no point in spending money on the next raid as I might as well wait and win the Feb or March hull instead as I will not have time to build the Jan hull anyway.
The point being I am not willing to be bored by a game just to get build tokens and without those build tokens I have no reason to not skip every other monthly raid as I can only build every other ship you release.
Sadly doin FM twice is a week isnt a choice anymore. It was meant the way, but kixeye has decided that to be an Elite player, you need to od it twice a week. Hence, sincethey need 2 weeks to earn all of them and there desire to reduce token avaialbility, limitng to 1 week twice is enough in the eyes.
Yes doin FM twice should be a choice, but kixeye is aiming there game at a very specific group of player telling the rest to play or leave.
Very true but also a bit my point. Kix has exceeded my willingness to be bored by a game with trying to make us do the FM twice a week. I mostly like this game and am willing to force myself to 50 mil once a week and keep playing. At some point that probably means I will be far enough behind I will quit which is sad but that is what they are achieving from me with trying to make us earn 100 mil points a week. I have fun with my first 85 a week. The second 85 is not bad after that it is like why the BLANK am I bothering with this stupid game. I can remind myself how much fun I have at other times enough to get to 50 mil but no way am I going for 100 mil anymore.
I see 4 new FM tech items listed. Does that mean we are getting 4 Tier 4 items again this month? If so does that mean the devs have officially decided we do not need a tech slowdown we need a tech addition speedup? I would love those build tokens but I have to say the FM is way to boring to bother doing twice in a week.
Maybe when my tigers are finally done a couple weeks from now and after I make some minor changes to my Rinos now that I have better tech I can finally start on my drac carriers. Those should be done sometime in March. Thinking that means no point in spending money on the next raid as I might as well wait and win the Feb or March hull instead as I will not have time to build the Jan hull anyway.
The point being I am not willing to be bored by a game just to get build tokens and without those build tokens I have no reason to not skip every other monthly raid as I can only build every other ship you release.
Sadly doin FM twice is a week isnt a choice anymore. It was meant the way, but kixeye has decided that to be an Elite player, you need to od it twice a week. Hence, sincethey need 2 weeks to earn all of them and there desire to reduce token avaialbility, limitng to 1 week twice is enough in the eyes.
Yes doin FM twice should be a choice, but kixeye is aiming there game at a very specific group of player telling the rest to play or leave.
Very true but also a bit my point. Kix has exceeded my willingness to be bored by a game with trying to make us do the FM twice a week. I mostly like this game and am willing to force myself to 50 mil once a week and keep playing. At some point that probably means I will be far enough behind I will quit which is sad but that is what they are achieving from me with trying to make us earn 100 mil points a week. I have fun with my first 85 a week. The second 85 is not bad after that it is like why the BLANK am I bothering with this stupid game. I can remind myself how much fun I have at other times enough to get to 50 mil but no way am I going for 100 mil anymore.
Ive never done 50 mil and never will, even when or if id be able to do it. My philosophy around this game as changed. I play my way and commit the time i want to commit and not what kix want me to commit too it.
Im already well behind with no hope of ever catching up, so ive reach that stage and im having more fun now then ever before. Not having rush and consume the entire content is great and allow me to spend time doin other hobbies and games. That is not likely to change whatever changes kix may bring foward. They have lost me as an addict and i wont go back to it.
I hope the new FM content you mentioned is bought into the fm after the raid and not this week - that would really P me off.
Overall it looks good - looking forward to base planner and alliance changes. Also looking forward to the stats for the coldsnap turret - will it be another Drac Scattergun or a Dead Eye Ballista of a turret......
Yes, FM content drops after the raid.
if you drop 4 elite prizes, are are forcing players to do the FM at least twice in one week in the next cycle between raids, what happened to its an option doing the FM twice in a week?
I hope the new FM content you mentioned is bought into the fm after the raid and not this week - that would really P me off.
Overall it looks good - looking forward to base planner and alliance changes. Also looking forward to the stats for the coldsnap turret - will it be another Drac Scattergun or a Dead Eye Ballista of a turret......
Yes, FM content drops after the raid.
if you drop 4 elite prizes, are are forcing players to do the FM at least twice in one week in the next cycle between raids, what happened to its an option doing the FM twice in a week?
It's still an option. You can do it once a week but you'll miss out on the ship build tokens.
I hope the new FM content you mentioned is bought into the fm after the raid and not this week - that would really P me off.
Overall it looks good - looking forward to base planner and alliance changes. Also looking forward to the stats for the coldsnap turret - will it be another Drac Scattergun or a Dead Eye Ballista of a turret......
Yes, FM content drops after the raid.
if you drop 4 elite prizes, are are forcing players to do the FM at least twice in one week in the next cycle between raids, what happened to its an option doing the FM twice in a week?
It's still an option. You can do it once a week but you'll miss out on the ship build tokens.
Only if kixeye are planning on leaving four weeks between raids again. Are they? It would be nice if true...
I suppose at least the prizes are worthwhile, rather than the junk we got this past cycle. (Explosive system 4, etc...) (Although having said that, I suppose there's no guarantee of that- they have good CONCEPTS, but will that translate into a decent blueprint- who knows.)
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Raids Boycotted: Hellstrike, Lightning Carrier, Enforcer, Neptune- and at this rate, the entire upcoming Reaver raid series.
I hope the new FM content you mentioned is bought into the fm after the raid and not this week - that would really P me off.
Overall it looks good - looking forward to base planner and alliance changes. Also looking forward to the stats for the coldsnap turret - will it be another Drac Scattergun or a Dead Eye Ballista of a turret......
Yes, FM content drops after the raid.
if you drop 4 elite prizes, are are forcing players to do the FM at least twice in one week in the next cycle between raids, what happened to its an option doing the FM twice in a week?
It's still an option. You can do it once a week but you'll miss out on the ship build tokens.
laredo sir, if you only did it once a week and they release 4 elite prizes with only 3 FM in between raids, you would fall behind in winning prizes? or did i miss something?
I see 4 new FM tech items listed. Does that mean we are getting 4 Tier 4 items again this month? If so does that mean the devs have officially decided we do not need a tech slowdown we need a tech addition speedup? I would love those build tokens but I have to say the FM is way to boring to bother doing twice in a week.
Maybe when my tigers are finally done a couple weeks from now and after I make some minor changes to my Rinos now that I have better tech I can finally start on my drac carriers. Those should be done sometime in March. Thinking that means no point in spending money on the next raid as I might as well wait and win the Feb or March hull instead as I will not have time to build the Jan hull anyway.
The point being I am not willing to be bored by a game just to get build tokens and without those build tokens I have no reason to not skip every other monthly raid as I can only build every other ship you release.
Sadly doin FM twice is a week isnt a choice anymore. It was meant the way, but kixeye has decided that to be an Elite player, you need to od it twice a week. Hence, sincethey need 2 weeks to earn all of them and there desire to reduce token avaialbility, limitng to 1 week twice is enough in the eyes.
Yes doin FM twice should be a choice, but kixeye is aiming there game at a very specific group of player telling the rest to play or leave.
Very true but also a bit my point. Kix has exceeded my willingness to be bored by a game with trying to make us do the FM twice a week. I mostly like this game and am willing to force myself to 50 mil once a week and keep playing. At some point that probably means I will be far enough behind I will quit which is sad but that is what they are achieving from me with trying to make us earn 100 mil points a week. I have fun with my first 85 a week. The second 85 is not bad after that it is like why the BLANK am I bothering with this stupid game. I can remind myself how much fun I have at other times enough to get to 50 mil but no way am I going for 100 mil anymore.
I have to second this...this past weekend (Thursday and on), I started the FM. After completing a single 85, my base got hit, and my LP killed (along with my dock). So, that's about 10 hours repair....I refused to coin it. After it repaired, I MIGHT have had time to get to elite, but I thought about it, and came to the conclusion that I just didn't give an EFF. I had better ways to spend my time. I SO miss the days when I could complete the FM in 30 min to an hour, and then get on to doing things like ranking fleets, getting res (when needed), tweaking my base, hitting other bases, designing ships, etc. As it is right now, more than half of my week in the game is taken up with trying to get to Elite twice and keep up with the RIDICULOUS rate of new tech. It's just not fun...not fun at all. At least if I go on top of the house and sweep of the roof next weekend instead of spending my time doing FM, I won't have to sweep it the weekend after, and then the next, and the next, etc. Sad when sweeping off the roof is more satisfying than playing a computer game...
I see 4 new FM tech items listed. Does that mean we are getting 4 Tier 4 items again this month? If so does that mean the devs have officially decided we do not need a tech slowdown we need a tech addition speedup? I would love those build tokens but I have to say the FM is way to boring to bother doing twice in a week.
Maybe when my tigers are finally done a couple weeks from now and after I make some minor changes to my Rinos now that I have better tech I can finally start on my drac carriers. Those should be done sometime in March. Thinking that means no point in spending money on the next raid as I might as well wait and win the Feb or March hull instead as I will not have time to build the Jan hull anyway.
The point being I am not willing to be bored by a game just to get build tokens and without those build tokens I have no reason to not skip every other monthly raid as I can only build every other ship you release.
Sadly doin FM twice is a week isnt a choice anymore. It was meant the way, but kixeye has decided that to be an Elite player, you need to od it twice a week. Hence, sincethey need 2 weeks to earn all of them and there desire to reduce token avaialbility, limitng to 1 week twice is enough in the eyes.
Yes doin FM twice should be a choice, but kixeye is aiming there game at a very specific group of player telling the rest to play or leave.
Very true but also a bit my point. Kix has exceeded my willingness to be bored by a game with trying to make us do the FM twice a week. I mostly like this game and am willing to force myself to 50 mil once a week and keep playing. At some point that probably means I will be far enough behind I will quit which is sad but that is what they are achieving from me with trying to make us earn 100 mil points a week. I have fun with my first 85 a week. The second 85 is not bad after that it is like why the BLANK am I bothering with this stupid game. I can remind myself how much fun I have at other times enough to get to 50 mil but no way am I going for 100 mil anymore.
I have to second this...this past weekend (Thursday and on), I started the FM. After completing a single 85, my base got hit, and my LP killed (along with my dock). So, that's about 10 hours repair....I refused to coin it. After it repaired, I MIGHT have had time to get to elite, but I thought about it, and came to the conclusion that I just didn't give an EFF. I had better ways to spend my time. I SO miss the days when I could complete the FM in 30 min to an hour, and then get on to doing things like ranking fleets, getting res (when needed), tweaking my base, hitting other bases, designing ships, etc. As it is right now, more than half of my week in the game is taken up with trying to get to Elite twice and keep up with the RIDICULOUS rate of new tech. It's just not fun...not fun at all. At least if I go on top of the house and sweep of the roof next weekend instead of spending my time doing FM, I won't have to sweep it the weekend after, and then the next, and the next, etc. Sad when sweeping off the roof is more satisfying than playing a computer game...
umm...
It is 72 hours for the FM, you have to wait 3 hours for the dock (if you are maxed out)... So, how does 3 hours of waiting (not coining the dock) turn into 72 hours of wait time?
Even if you waited for launch pad at 10 hours, the dock is done in 3. You would still have 26 hours of time to do the FM first time through
Yeah you did not even try to do the FM and look for any excuse to say you cannot do it.
Meh, not too exciting. Further repair reductions will be nice. Kix needs to look further into build/refit times. That is the biggest draw back for me, repair times are better now than they were.
Overall it looks good - looking forward to base planner and alliance changes. Also looking forward to the stats for the coldsnap turret - will it be another Drac Scattergun or a Dead Eye Ballista of a turret......
Thumbs up on further repair reductions as well - time to start working on build time reductions though
Interesting so far. I'll wait till I see the content before I weigh in. ATM it looks good on paper. But a lot of the previous content was the same and flopped on release day.
Unless the cost to coin rank takes a huge dive the change to that system is pointless.
When will we be seeing the build times get addressed or are they going to be.
i can't read the post, may i have strawberry instead vanilla please
still no retrofits they ever coming back like in march?
I, personally, am afraid to start any major builds right now. I don't have the time, or patience, and I've got at least 14 two-to-three-day refits that I need to do in advance of the raid. I haven't even started my first drac bomber build, and those are all 12-day builds (so, I guess I'll let you guys know what I think in 6 months or so).
The build time thing is ridiculous. I understand completely why it's still an issue - money - but as a low-spending player it REALLY pisses me off that the team didn't even bother to de-escalate the costs of old hulls as they rolled out new ones.
EDIT: Might as well try to stay on topic: I like what i read here, but it's not what I wanted to read. The base defense fleet thing should have been done years ago, and I appreciate the continued drop in repair costs. A base turret is nice but, as others have pointed out, it needs to be seen in action.
Blow the court at the plan can't change the coordinates
On course threatened by force, passed the limit
Mutilate the meak, terrorize the timid
Murder in a minute then its mission accomplished
Corner the confused then stomp with my accomplice
I can totally sympathize with you. Building tigers ATM 26 days a pop. Have a few minor refits on em after the last one finishes. Also have some base guard refits i would like to do but don't really see the point in wasting time there for the long que. wish I could afford to play the game The way I would like to.
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Sector threat- Good, but remember that it's only going to help if they actually spawn enough- that's the issue right now. I'd go so far as to suggest a target that pays no uranium but a lot of progress might have a role to play here, if you really don't want to crank uranium availability any higher.
Alliance improvements: Finally.
Base defence fleets: Nice, but not that important in the big picture
Armour reductions: good, but can we have the mechanism changed to not be so ridiculous, counter unintuitive, and utterly unhelpful to people taking, say, 50% damage?
FM content:
Solar panels: This is an interesting one. What happens when the structure these are on is destroyed? Does the rest of the base loose some power/effectiveness, or is the tradeoff here purely build time and slot availability?
D5-M: Can I suggest this be called D5-D, not M? M is penetrating resist armours. Sounds a good blueprint, though.
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Maybe when my tigers are finally done a couple weeks from now and after I make some minor changes to my Rinos now that I have better tech I can finally start on my drac carriers. Those should be done sometime in March. Thinking that means no point in spending money on the next raid as I might as well wait and win the Feb or March hull instead as I will not have time to build the Jan hull anyway.
The point being I am not willing to be bored by a game just to get build tokens and without those build tokens I have no reason to not skip every other monthly raid as I can only build every other ship you release.
Sadly doin FM twice in a week isnt a choice anymore. It was meant the way, but kixeye has decided that to be an Elite player, you need to od it twice a week. Hence, sincethey need 2 weeks to earn all of them and there desire to reduce token avaialbility, limitng to 1 week twice is enough in the eyes.
Yes doin FM twice should be a choice, but kixeye is aiming there game at a very specific group of player telling the rest to play or leave.
Ive never done 50 mil and never will, even when or if id be able to do it. My philosophy around this game as changed. I play my way and commit the time i want to commit and not what kix want me to commit too it.
Im already well behind with no hope of ever catching up, so ive reach that stage and im having more fun now then ever before. Not having rush and consume the entire content is great and allow me to spend time doin other hobbies and games. That is not likely to change whatever changes kix may bring foward. They have lost me as an addict and i wont go back to it.
I suppose at least the prizes are worthwhile, rather than the junk we got this past cycle. (Explosive system 4, etc...)
(Although having said that, I suppose there's no guarantee of that- they have good CONCEPTS, but will that translate into a decent blueprint- who knows.)
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I live In England, the sun hardly ever comes out. All we get is rain, rain, rain.
The English are a distinct disadvantage with this new base special.
It is 72 hours for the FM, you have to wait 3 hours for the dock (if you are maxed out)... So, how does 3 hours of waiting (not coining the dock) turn into 72 hours of wait time?
Even if you waited for launch pad at 10 hours, the dock is done in 3. You would still have 26 hours of time to do the FM first time through
Yeah you did not even try to do the FM and look for any excuse to say you cannot do it.
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