My Question for all of this BS is this Give us the Total Number of every % in this New Research thing like for instant's are ya saying(6% for crit is that every 6 shot's or every 60??) or like (3% for build time's is 30sec's or 3sec's??). More INFO needed??? for all of them to keep most of us and the timer needs to go or the Uranium cost need's to be way WAY less.
You realise a percentage is part of a whole right? its not a fixed amount.
My Question for all of this BS is this Give us the Total Number of every % in this New Research thing like for instant's are ya saying(6% for crit is that every 6 shot's or every 60??) or like (3% for build time's is 30sec's or 3sec's??). More INFO needed??? for all of them to keep most of us and the timer needs to go or the Uranium cost need's to be way WAY less.
You realise a percentage is part of a whole right? its not a fixed amount.
Yes I do know this just would like to have a clear understanding if doing these DAME thing's are worth Our time and a % here and there is not without the whole Pie is Shown then maybe more will do them or maybe they will have to Rethink there MATH.
My Question for all of this BS is this Give us the Total Number of every % in this New Research thing like for instant's are ya saying(6% for crit is that every 6 shot's or every 60??) or like (3% for build time's is 30sec's or 3sec's??). More INFO needed??? for all of them to keep most of us and the timer needs to go or the Uranium cost need's to be way WAY less.
You realise a percentage is part of a whole right? its not a fixed amount.
Yes I do know this just would like to have a clear understanding if doing these DAME thing's are worth Our time and a % here and there is not without the whole Pie is Shown then maybe more will do them or maybe they will have to Rethink there MATH.
umm ...... the whole pie is going to be different for each ship / amount of armor / weapon if you want to convert to absolute numbers
My Question for all of this BS is this Give us the Total Number of every % in this New Research thing like for instant's are ya saying(6% for crit is that every 6 shot's or every 60??) or like (3% for build time's is 30sec's or 3sec's??). More INFO needed??? for all of them to keep most of us and the timer needs to go or the Uranium cost need's to be way WAY less.
You realise a percentage is part of a whole right? its not a fixed amount.
Yes I do know this just would like to have a clear understanding if doing these DAME thing's are worth Our time and a % here and there is not without the whole Pie is Shown then maybe more will do them or maybe they will have to Rethink there MATH.
umm ...... the whole pie is going to be different for each ship / amount of armor / weapon if you want to convert to absolute numbers
Ya just one number of how much there % mean's is what I'm asking for if they can't do that then OK. Just would Like to know there Dum Math. Sent's it's so dame costly in U,res,time and more Time, It would Be great to know if any of the time spent doing any or all of that is worth staying with this GAME!!!
so much for uranium in our time im down to hitting drac bases for uranium as im a brit and you dont care as yellow in our 3 sectors only come when lots of players are hitting salves so its screw you yet again the new drac bases promised havent even appeared you are really screwing everyone that isnt on your time and now every one is happy NOT
My Question for all of this BS is this Give us the Total Number of every % in this New Research thing like for instant's are ya saying(6% for crit is that every 6 shot's or every 60??) or like (3% for build time's is 30sec's or 3sec's??). More INFO needed??? for all of them to keep most of us and the timer needs to go or the Uranium cost need's to be way WAY less.
You realise a percentage is part of a whole right? its not a fixed amount.
Yes I do know this just would like to have a clear understanding if doing these DAME thing's are worth Our time and a % here and there is not without the whole Pie is Shown then maybe more will do them or maybe they will have to Rethink there MATH.
umm ...... the whole pie is going to be different for each ship / amount of armor / weapon if you want to convert to absolute numbers
Ya just one number of how much there % mean's is what I'm asking for if they can't do that then OK. Just would Like to know there Dum Math. Sent's it's so dame costly in U,res,time and more Time, It would Be great to know if any of the time spent doing any or all of that is worth staying with this GAME!!!
so you want them to tell you that 6% of 100 shots is 6?
so much for uranium in our time im down to hitting drac bases for uranium as im a brit and you dont care as yellow in our 3 sectors only come when lots of players are hitting salves so its screw you yet again the new drac bases promised havent even appeared you are really screwing everyone that isnt on your time and now every one is happy NOT
you can get Uranium on your time, you just have to spend 8 hours hiting cargo on and off to get enough spawns to fill up.
Once upon a time, on an ocean far far away, a company named kixeye, developed a game, a game that involved ocean moving ships, and bases to build and defend, a game that invovled building fleets to fight other fleets in sector wars, or insector wars. This format was fun and the game exploded with interest. Alas, something changed, no longer were players able to attack bases, or fight fvf, without mega repair times, costing big money. The ships kixeye released, were taking longer and longer to build, an taking longer and longer to repair.
Many players offered up strategy to return the game to its orginal state, the main being lower the build and repair times, so that players could actually participate daily in a game that is /was much loved.
Alas, kix wanted that revenue stream to continue, so instead of just cutting the times, they came up with gimmicks that in the end, didnt benefit anyone but the company, thinking that the players were to stupid to realize what they were doing.
Then, the players revolted, and kix decided ok, we'll change, but it will take some time, its not like we can half repair times at the drop of a hat, whoooops, players responded well you can half ;repair times during raid, why not make it permanent, but that wasn't in kixeyes agenda. Here it is, over 3 months since kixeye responded to players sitting out raids and not spending money and the game is still majorly messed up from a players view.
Kixeye knows what needs to be done, they just dont want to do it, and as long as there are players willing to throw hundreds if not thousands of dollars at this game they wont change, they'll keep leading the players along, hoping i guess that we'll just keep throwing money at them, but the time has come when boredom and cost has just driven way to many people away.
In the end the answer is simple, an yes i have invested alot of time and some money into this game, so i'd hate to see it end. but you can't host or play a game, where no one is playing, a game where 5 mins of fun equals a days worth of repairs. the answer is stop spending. either kix will change or they will shut down the servers and that will be that. an great analogy comes to mind. say you own a car that you love, but its nickel and diming you to death, the car is now costing you daily just to keep it on the road. there comes a time when you say enough, i really love this car, but common sense dictates, that i just have to get a new one. alot of ex players are now driving new cars, maybe we need to look for the closest dealership
I agree , stopping spending will cause change one way or the other. Here's the problem , there are people in this game that have spent 50 thousand dollars and are still spending. They wont stop. They have ego's the size of their bank accounts and must be number 1. What a joke. There is no number 1 when there are so many point and click ships that need no skill to take out bases. When you can buy your way to the top then it is no longer a game. It is then just a gamble that you might get an edge if you build better. It is impossible to continue enjoying a game that use to cost 25 dollars a month to play in the raid and cover your repairs for another week or two. Now we play for 10 minutes and wait 24 hours or better for fleet repair. 30 coins or more to repair a fleet? Wow just wow. Now you need to spend 250 dollars a month to ave the same amount of gameplay. I see the kixeye fan boy's on trolling every post that dont share their opinion. Good for you all 4 of you will have a great time playing with yourselves one day. There is only one problem in this game , fix that one problem and all the other complaints will disappear. People dont complain if they are having too much fun playing your game , but I cant play if you expect me to spend a car payment for repairs each month. 5 minute to 30 minute cap on all fleet repairs. Allow your players to play dammit!!! If we can play then we might be more tempted to coin that next ship or fleet or to coin those refits we been wanting to do. I did coin this last raid and spent what I would normally spend in 3 months on one raid. Thats highway robbery and kixeye are the thieves with their normal bait and switch tactics. I was excited , actually seen some progress with repair time going down so got out my wallet again. Now we have crazy Uranium requirements with exceedingly hard targets for lower levels. More chores added to the game and more content put in the weekly's than was promised. Dont blame the dev,s or the cm. Will Harbin runs this show and his old boys club board of directors. They dont give a **** about you or your gaming experience. Will Harbin cares about only his ego and building the biggest gaming company in the world on your dollar. He cares only about hi greed and taking every cent you have to play the game. He is winning . He has 50 thousand dollars of some people's money. They said so right here in forums. I would be damned embarrassed to say I spent that much on a flash game which can disappear any time. The fanboys who troll everyone else have spent big amounts in this game. It's why they troll to make themselves feel justified for their poor spending habits. They must prove to you they know more and are better than you for having spent their life saving's on this game. Ignore them and voice your opinion. Do not stoop to their level and engage them so they can feel good about themselves . This game has gone for a crap and anyone who dosnt see that is complete fool , fanboy's included.
I agree , stopping spending will cause change one way or the other. Here's the problem , there are people in this game that have spent 50 thousand dollars and are still spending. They wont stop. They have ego's the size of their bank accounts and must be number 1. What a joke. There is no number 1 when there are so many point and click ships that need no skill to take out bases. When you can buy your way to the top then it is no longer a game. It is then just a gamble that you might get an edge if you build better. It is impossible to continue enjoying a game that use to cost 25 dollars a month to play in the raid and cover your repairs for another week or two. Now we play for 10 minutes and wait 24 hours or better for fleet repair. 30 coins or more to repair a fleet? Wow just wow. Now you need to spend 250 dollars a month to ave the same amount of gameplay. I see the kixeye fan boy's on trolling every post that dont share their opinion. Good for you all 4 of you will have a great time playing with yourselves one day. There is only one problem in this game , fix that one problem and all the other complaints will disappear. People dont complain if they are having too much fun playing your game , but I cant play if you expect me to spend a car payment for repairs each month. 5 minute to 30 minute cap on all fleet repairs. Allow your players to play dammit!!! If we can play then we might be more tempted to coin that next ship or fleet or to coin those refits we been wanting to do. I did coin this last raid and spent what I would normally spend in 3 months on one raid. Thats highway robbery and kixeye are the thieves with their normal bait and switch tactics. I was excited , actually seen some progress with repair time going down so got out my wallet again. Now we have crazy Uranium requirements with exceedingly hard targets for lower levels. More chores added to the game and more content put in the weekly's than was promised. Dont blame the dev,s or the cm. Will Harbin runs this show and his old boys club board of directors. They dont give a **** about you or your gaming experience. Will Harbin cares about only his ego and building the biggest gaming company in the world on your dollar. He cares only about hi greed and taking every cent you have to play the game. He is winning . He has 50 thousand dollars of some people's money. They said so right here in forums. I would be damned embarrassed to say I spent that much on a flash game which can disappear any time. The fanboys who troll everyone else have spent big amounts in this game. It's why they troll to make themselves feel justified for their poor spending habits. They must prove to you they know more and are better than you for having spent their life saving's on this game. Ignore them and voice your opinion. Do not stoop to their level and engage them so they can feel good about themselves . This game has gone for a crap and anyone who dosnt see that is complete fool , fanboy's included.
Yes, you speak the truth. I have seen people in comms say they spend $1000-2000/month. Why anyone would spend that much on a flash browser game is beyond me. The problem is Kix has to cater to them now. 10-25$/month is realistic.
Yes, I agree the fanboy trolling is also out of hand. The mods do nothing about it. There is a certain troll who you can see in this thread has put on dozens of "dislikes" and tagged dozens helpful of posts as 'troll' or 'off topic' yet by saying his name I would invoke the fury of the mods. It adds to a toxic environment on the forums and makes people leave but kix ignores it cause they coin. Even mentioning this fact will likely get my account banned.
i think kixeye maybe can reduce repair time, specially the ship. or maybe kixeye allow us to make more than one dock, so we can repair more than one fleet at once
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Since my feedback is crucial, who is accountable for the Drac Coax Debacle?
Can those of us players who were mislead into believing that Developers were fixing this 'bug' expect an apology?
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as for the uranium on our time there's are few problems. first having players needing to constantly hit salvs is a chore and in many sectors extremely difficult to achieve. If you are lucky to be in a sector that keeps bar alive, only a few armadas spawn at a time and mostly 75s. There is not enough spawning to accommodate all players. ITS a huge chore to spends hours opening and maybe 2 75s and 2 60s spawn. and if no one hits 75s , 60s wont re-spawn. Although i like having the concept of being able to get uranium on our own time, its actually far fro being there at the current system.
Faster Time For refit..My Great Aunts Bunions..5 Days To refit A SEAWOLF..?? Really..? What And 5 years Ago It only Took What A week..??? Your not helping the problems Your Creating MORE.. old teh Such As this Should ONLY Take 24 HOURS MAX...New And Improved KixEye..Kiss My Grits..!!!
@Red Crock said:
Faster Time For refit..My Great Aunts Bunions..5 Days To refit A SEAWOLF..?? Really..? What And 5 years Ago It only Took What A week..??? Your not helping the problems Your Creating MORE.. old teh Such As this Should ONLY Take 24 HOURS MAX...New And Improved KixEye..Kiss My Grits..!!!
You do know they have not touched refit times yet, right? Nice job on making yourself look like an idiot.
I just want to be able to send in a ticket for all the lost time, the ships that took way to long to repair, my base to long to repair, so much more over the past year and half because every time I try to send in a ticket it says I have a different account and need to log on with the same email which I only have one through facebook and Kixeye and you send me emails all the time. Oh and im tired of 90s hitting a 50s base, how are we suppose to move up when we keep getting leveled by pointless higher levels? Do something make me happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought that I had seen the worst KIX could possibly produce - until I saw what the requirements for the "oh so nice and easy research" goals are.
At level 4, you need to kill a draconian level 120 base.
Thanks for proving that you've spent your 3 months (in witch to bring at least SOME player confidence back) with carefully planning how you can screw your last remaining players over.
On the other hand, you have done absolutly the opposite as you said you would - chores are at a higher level than ever (releasing 4 items in elite tier pr. month is madness!), you have to hit drac fleets 24/7 to keep urainum from beeing a resourse, and this new R&D objectives have requirements that are utterly insane.
Kix still do as usual, steal, lie, cheat (drac co-axial turret was a blatant robbery) and quite frankly, I havent ever seen any game company ever treat their players like garbage like KIX - or did I? Oh yea, Zynga.
No wonder...
thats for hackers only , they are the only ones they cater to unfortunately
In our ongoing effort to improve transparency and improve the game itself...
...Your feedback is crucial to the design process and we always appreciate the feedback you provide....
Transparency, as used in science, engineering, business, the humanities and in other social contexts, implies openness, communication, and accountability. Transparency is operating in such a way that it is easy for others to see what actions are performed. It has been defined simply as "the perceived quality of intentionally shared information from a sender ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparency_(behavior)
Since my feedback is crucial, who is accountable for the Drac Coax Debacle?
Can those of us players who were mislead into believing that Developers were fixing this 'bug' expect an apology?
You see, this is where Kixeye could help themselves. Some players wouldn't accept it, but a simple apology with an explanation would go along way...certainly more than nothing at all.
Looks like y'all lost another 6k players over the weekend.
i bet it wont go over 80k
71k is all that i see never broke 72k thats a big drop of player's that left kix do u not care or are u going to see your sinking ship just go down and i bet most of them are whales that u failed to keep happy
was sitting at a meager 47K last night. Miserable numbers compared to what it once was
it would help the game, if lvl 90+ players could not hit low 50's its crazy they use fleets that don't get damaged even if hit by d55z x 18 fire units on 2 masty's i am told learn from it so what could I learn from it, oh yer I get it don't play the game you have no chance of getting anywhere every time you log on your base is smashed no point playing anyway
Great update that ignores the tripled damage to repair from, the sector threat level, build times, etc. etc. At least we get new shards we can earn in the new Uranium Drac Bases I have yet to see unlocked anywhere in world Beta.
If you r listening to the players, why can you not let us have a second shipyard or some way of say building ships and bay a refit dock to refit ships, seems simple to me, just had some code to half build times and repairs, dont think it would be rthat hard??????
Great update that ignores the tripled damage to repair from, the sector threat level, build times, etc. etc. At least we get new shards we can earn in the new Uranium Drac Bases I have yet to see unlocked anywhere in world Beta.
Improvements to older weapons to bring them in line with the current level of power and reduce their build costs. Live NOW! WHERE NOW?????? i don't see any difference.... ! another telltale story of Kix
Errr....anyone know when the FAT will pop up or was that cancelled??
Thanks
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It is impossible to continue enjoying a game that use to cost 25 dollars a month to play in the raid and cover your repairs for another week or two. Now we play for 10 minutes and wait 24 hours or better for fleet repair. 30 coins or more to repair a fleet? Wow just wow. Now you need to spend 250 dollars a month to ave the same amount of gameplay.
I see the kixeye fan boy's on trolling every post that dont share their opinion. Good for you all 4 of you will have a great time playing with yourselves one day.
There is only one problem in this game , fix that one problem and all the other complaints will disappear. People dont complain if they are having too much fun playing your game , but I cant play if you expect me to spend a car payment for repairs each month. 5 minute to 30 minute cap on all fleet repairs. Allow your players to play dammit!!! If we can play then we might be more tempted to coin that next ship or fleet or to coin those refits we been wanting to do.
I did coin this last raid and spent what I would normally spend in 3 months on one raid. Thats highway robbery and kixeye are the thieves with their normal bait and switch tactics. I was excited , actually seen some progress with repair time going down so got out my wallet again. Now we have crazy Uranium requirements with exceedingly hard targets for lower levels. More chores added to the game and more content put in the weekly's than was promised. Dont blame the dev,s or the cm. Will Harbin runs this show and his old boys club board of directors. They dont give a **** about you or your gaming experience. Will Harbin cares about only his ego and building the biggest gaming company in the world on your dollar. He cares only about hi greed and taking every cent you have to play the game. He is winning
Yes, I agree the fanboy trolling is also out of hand. The mods do nothing about it. There is a certain troll who you can see in this thread has put on dozens of "dislikes" and tagged dozens helpful of posts as 'troll' or 'off topic' yet by saying his name I would invoke the fury of the mods. It adds to a toxic environment on the forums and makes people leave but kix ignores it cause they coin.
Even mentioning this fact will likely get my account banned.
Since my feedback is crucial, who is accountable for the Drac Coax Debacle?
Can those of us players who were mislead into believing that Developers were fixing this 'bug' expect an apology?
You do know they have not touched refit times yet, right? Nice job on making yourself look like an idiot.
Way too simple...gotta apply common core principles and make it complicated
Communication is poor these days.
LMFAO yet another hull to get