Okay for the last time, Doom is a middle information guy. He does a good Job. Please direct all your nasty comments to; The one that, takes on the mantle of responsibility for the whole company. WiLLiam Harbin.
The FAT was the one thing during the month I looked forward to. I could load up on Uranium, and play for hours. When you think of toy box, you think awesome fun, This toy box does not sound fun at all. Unless I want to throw a 50 at it.
pay to repair fleets i dont own with real money....ok im also ready to buy that ocean front property in arizona..ill not be playing in this and yall aint gettn no more coin from me.
There are no words capable of detailing the ridiculous switch to no uranium insurance..... I'm sure DOOM is aware of this himself. I'd like to say that no-one will play, but it's not true. Unfortunately those willing to pay the obscene price are the ones that keep this game afloat. I used to blame kix for exploiting the cash cows, but can u blame them? A normal business would sell more fun for less coin meaning more players. Why bother when you can sell less fun for more coin to more players..............
TLDR but Doom have a few more ..I understand that you may not yet know the answers or may be unable to share them here yet but would like clarification on these at some point if you can.
1 Are the hulls going to match current hulls. If a night hawk is in the toy box is it going to match the current night hawk or is it going to be different. For example...repair modifiers/repair specialists will they apply as they do today?
2 Will my settings/retros apply for components/hulls or do the toybox versions have a hard set limit on reload etc and retros do not apply - I actually would like this to be set to a hard coded value, although I have spent time and U retroing items it would be neat to have a level playing field and take the arena back to old school where the playing field has the same toys and its down to strategy and driving skills.
3 Rockets - Confirmation on if they will be available for use or not
4 Crews - Confirmation on if they will be available for players to use or not
5 Unlocking fleets/components - what are the resource/U/ times for doing this? You mentioned that the builds themselves will be instant but the unlock requirements are concerning - OK per the above this has not been decided yet but may be U/first born/a combo of firstborn, 3 cows, 2 goats AND gold.
6 How are you going to address half filled brackets ( last time there were folks that started the first day but still ended up in a half filled bracket and got hosed on prizes through no fault of their own)
7 If crews are awarded for prizes...has the issue of max limit on crews been addressed that has been reported since the FAT tourneys started, or are we still going to have to send in ticket?
8 Is there going to be a new Arena Slot in our fleet slots? How will we assign a fleet for the arena if we have more than one? Will this be an additional slot in our dock? Or are we going to have a dedicated arena dock/place where we assign a specific fleet.
9 And the reason for the above question....If this is the format for the FAT going forward...if it takes time/u/resources to build a fleet in the FAT tourney do I get to keep this fleet for the next tourney or do I have to start from scratch each tourney? THIS IS NOW A BIG ISSUE if I have to spend U/gold to unlock a second fleet.
This is how change takes place. Developers look at the rash of negative feedback and think," Gee maybe we shouldn't do that." As opposed to, "We **** up." Like the graphics snafu a few years back.
3) No Uranium back but also no insurance. Instead repairs will be 1/2 off during the FAT.
So effectively another kick in the teeth to the honest players still playing the game. I for one won't pay for effectively a 2nd raid per month, specially not when it's geared towards making you coin more. If I've any chance of winning anything it'll be in a who's the richest wins format! In line with a bunch of hackers who will be doing it for free!!
Given that the last FAT I had to put in about 2 days worth of chair time to win my Aegis which is a game changing hull (matter of fact!) & watch most of the top ten get banned after for hacking. If similar tech is going to continually be released in the FAT and this is the policy Kixeye are taking towards what used to be a good, free, fun addition to the game, then I think this will be the final straw for me, and sadly after several years will be leaving what used to be a fun affordable game.
Do what you want Kixeye, but the writings on the wall as far as I can see it for BP
The FAT was the one thing during the month I looked forward to. I could load up on Uranium, and play for hours. When you think of toy box, you think awesome fun, This toy box does not sound fun at all. Unless I want to throw a 50 at it.
You know the new format is bad if all-star pro Kixeye quarteback SAS is saying something negative about it.
Kixeye hasn’t done as much to annoy its users as other game companies have. It doesn’t sell decorations for games and try to milk gamers for all they’re worth, and it doesn’t sell advanced weaponry that will allow rich gamers to wipe out poor gamers. But it does allow users to accelerate time in the game. Rather than wait for something to be developed, a user can pay to accelerate the build time for units.
seriously making me regret having ever spent a single gold here if this FAT go s thru as outlined i am afraid .. i will never coin again i have a sour taste in my mouth and feel ill ,seeing what you plan to do for the FAT wich i used to really enjoy
The FAT was the one thing during the month I looked forward to. I could load up on Uranium, and play for hours. When you think of toy box, you think awesome fun, This toy box does not sound fun at all. Unless I want to throw a 50 at it.
You know the new format is bad if all-star pro Kixeye quarteback SAS is saying something negative about it.
If it affects my fun, I am going to be against it I do not care if others are having fun, all that matters is how much I am having fun. I will wait for further judgement until I see the final product, but right now thinking that ESO will get another deposit that weekend.
I was really looking forward to this toolbox option, my fleets were not the best but i had 1 or 2 good boat but i thought this would have leveled the playing field, given those who know how to build good ships and fleets and also how to drive these ships an advantage.So you cannot rank the fleets you have now,or use uranium insurance but now you have to pay to use the "free ones" kixeye gives us.The FAT was actually fun even though i got smashed by players with better fleets most times at least i got rank for it and there were those odd occasions where i did beat better fleets with good tactics but kixeye you guys keep messing up stuff that works and replacing it with crap.I WOULD NOT COIN THE FAT IF YOU WERE GIVING AWAY 5 HELLSTARS AND TWO MONTH OF TOKENS TO BUILD THEM.
Oh, so this will be a coiners FAT then.... you have the coin to keep repairing your toy box and you can keep fighting.... This makes me sad. I have really been enjoying the FATs. I will not enjoy this one so much.
It's also the first of its kind, so how this FAT performs will give us a sense of what changes need to be made for future iterations.
Performs = milk players for coins we all should have know Kixeye would take something fun and cheap in the game and try to turn it into a cash grab
I was really looking forward to this toolbox option, my fleets were not the best but i had 1 or 2 good boat but i thought this would have leveled the playing field, given those who know how to build good ships and fleets and also how to drive these ships an advantage.So you cannot rank the fleets you have now,or use uranium insurance but now you have to pay to use the "free ones" kixeye gives us.The FAT was actually fun even though i got smashed by players with better fleets most times at least i got rank for it and there were those odd occasions where i did beat better fleets with good tactics but kixeye you guys keep messing up stuff that works and replacing it with crap.I WOULD NOT COIN THE FAT IF YOU WERE GIVING AWAY 5 HELLSTARS AND TWO MONTH OF TOKENS TO BUILD THEM.
Well, I would coin a bit if I got 2 months of free build time
1 If we choose a fleet is that the only fleet we get to use or can we add and subtract different builds to give a range of ships/fleets? 2 Are people going to still have the ability to use rockets? 3 Last tourney they nixed the U return but gave out extra VXP bonuses. If we cannot get VXP are we going to be able to get U back 4 If we are not going to get U back, are they going to run the dredges again during the tournament (I know they will be there this weekend but will they be there again for the FAT)? 5 My assumption is that the fleets will be instant build (at least I am hoping) 6 Based on Doom's post on another thread there will be no rank and thus everyone is on the same playing field and the brackets and prizes will be the same across the board?
1) The first fleet slot is free. You can swap out ships and builds at will and at no cost, or you can unlock more Fleets slots to pick & choose among builds. 2) Hmm, not sure. I don't think so, but I could be wrong. 3) No Uranium back but also no insurance. Instead repairs will be 1/2 off during the FAT. 4) See above 5) Yes! 6) No brackets! Prizes based on rank and win progression.
Can't be serious????
You will exclude 99% of the players by implementing point number 3. Average fleet would take 10+ hours to repair with half repairs if you lose. 2 battles per day are they serious?
Also does repairing the ships you don't own take your own dock to repair thus stopping you from repairing ships you actually own?
1 If we choose a fleet is that the only fleet we get to use or can we add and subtract different builds to give a range of ships/fleets? 2 Are people going to still have the ability to use rockets? 3 Last tourney they nixed the U return but gave out extra VXP bonuses. If we cannot get VXP are we going to be able to get U back 4 If we are not going to get U back, are they going to run the dredges again during the tournament (I know they will be there this weekend but will they be there again for the FAT)? 5 My assumption is that the fleets will be instant build (at least I am hoping) 6 Based on Doom's post on another thread there will be no rank and thus everyone is on the same playing field and the brackets and prizes will be the same across the board?
1) The first fleet slot is free. You can swap out ships and builds at will and at no cost, or you can unlock more Fleets slots to pick & choose among builds. 2) Hmm, not sure. I don't think so, but I could be wrong. 3) No Uranium back but also no insurance. Instead repairs will be 1/2 off during the FAT. 4) See above 5) Yes! 6) No brackets! Prizes based on rank and win progression.
Mr Doomrooster, are you joking here, NO INSURANCE REPAIRS? coin repairs and repairs will be half during the FAT. I truly hope you are joking here and have your facts mixed up as you have previously when notifying us of upcoming events.
NO INSURANCE REPAIRS = very few players will participate. In the space of 2 months, Kixeye have taken something the players enjoyed and all players coiner and non coiner alike could play and have turned it into nothing short of a money grab. I hope you are proud to be part of a team dead set on killing this game which pays your wages sir, and I hope for your sake you have sent out your CV in search of a new position.
This is the ultimate in a long line of stupid ill conceived ideas that have sprouted out of the Kixeye bean counters bottoms.
Oh, so this will be a coiners FAT then.... you have the coin to keep repairing your toy box and you can keep fighting.... This makes me sad. I have really been enjoying the FATs. I will not enjoy this one so much.
It's also the first of its kind, so how this FAT performs will give us a sense of what changes need to be made for future iterations.
Sorry DoomRooster, this isnt directed at you but I mean why is it always "Lets give them crap and then when we make it just a little better it will be fine" approach with kix? We seen this same approach with the token store. It started of sounding great but by time it released, it was pretty crappy lets face it... Why not just make something that the player will like from the start? Obciously there is no solution to make everyone happy but ****, it is obvious to Kix that players were going to be pissed off when they were going to be offered repair insurance... Even at half repair time its still crap. I enjoyed the last FAT (As it was the first I participated in) but without any repair insurance, I will not participate.
What pisses me off the most is the fact that Kix is supposedly changing format of the FAT to "Level the playing field"... HAH!!! How is Kix leveling the playing field by getting rid of insurance? Oh thats right, they arent. Again its just another attempt of Kix to get money from the coiners while once again the non coiners get the shaft.
Good job Kix, keep pushing us non coiners away and lose the majority of your player base. Then see how fun the game is.
Oh, so this will be a coiners FAT then.... you have the coin to keep repairing your toy box and you can keep fighting.... This makes me sad. I have really been enjoying the FATs. I will not enjoy this one so much.
It's also the first of its kind, so how this FAT performs will give us a sense of what changes need to be made for future iterations.
i can tell you right now put the hellstar in as a prize im not gona coin repairs for a FAT. lmao also do not bother with a 250-300 win prize. infact just take the fat out o the game alltogether. thats exactly what you will be doing to most players
well...i guess this will be the first FAT i don't participate in. I'm not spending hundreds of coin to garner 250 wins to get whatever the new hull is. I wasn't going to participate last time, but y'all messed up nixing the U payout and I was able to get almost 100 wins before you fixed it, so I went ahead and dropped nearly 100k U on that tourney to finish it up. But no way in heck am I going to spend gold on repairs for what will be several hundred battles at a minimum, especially on a fleet that isn't mine to keep.
Oh, so this will be a coiners FAT then.... you have the coin to keep repairing your toy box and you can keep fighting.... This makes me sad. I have really been enjoying the FATs. I will not enjoy this one so much.
It's also the first of its kind, so how this FAT performs will give us a sense of what changes need to be made for future iterations.
this is a BAD idea...you have removed any chance of non coiners getting anywhere near top prizes, and even the coiners will be venting their anger, and you know personally that we always point the guns at you Rooster...you're the CM, you're OUR middle man with Kixeye, so when we start shooting, you're the first target we go for besides Harbin (AKA the biggest Douche-Man).
uranium insurance saved us money...that is what Kixeye are after, so you've removed it. this means our only venture of having fun in the FAT without having to worry about repair times is to use instant repair ships, which some of us have already spoken about doing.
ever had a problem where you log on and someone is hitting your base, and wanted to view the world map while it happens? try this.
Oh, so this will be a coiners FAT then.... you have the coin to keep repairing your toy box and you can keep fighting.... This makes me sad. I have really been enjoying the FATs. I will not enjoy this one so much.
It's also the first of its kind, so how this FAT performs will give us a sense of what changes need to be made for future iterations.
this is a BAD idea...you have removed any chance of non coiners getting anywhere near top prizes, and even the coiners will be venting their anger, and you know personally that we always point the guns at you Rooster...you're the CM, you're OUR middle man with Kixeye, so when we start shooting, you're the first target we go for besides Harbin (AKA the biggest Douche-Man).
uranium insurance saved us money...that is what Kixeye are after, so you've removed it. this means our only venture of having fun in the FAT without having to worry about repair times is to use instant repair ships, which some of us have already spoken about doing.
A VERY BAD idea indeed...if they keep the win requirements the same for the prizes, you're looking at somewhere in the vicinity of $100-$300 in coin for people who drive good. Most coiners aren't going to be willing to do that. Sure the whales will, but I can't see too many of them being content to pay it.
1 If we choose a fleet is that the only fleet we get to use or can we add and subtract different builds to give a range of ships/fleets? 2 Are people going to still have the ability to use rockets? 3 Last tourney they nixed the U return but gave out extra VXP bonuses. If we cannot get VXP are we going to be able to get U back 4 If we are not going to get U back, are they going to run the dredges again during the tournament (I know they will be there this weekend but will they be there again for the FAT)? 5 My assumption is that the fleets will be instant build (at least I am hoping) 6 Based on Doom's post on another thread there will be no rank and thus everyone is on the same playing field and the brackets and prizes will be the same across the board?
1) The first fleet slot is free. You can swap out ships and builds at will and at no cost, or you can unlock more Fleets slots to pick & choose among builds. 2) Hmm, not sure. I don't think so, but I could be wrong. 3) No Uranium back but also no insurance. Instead repairs will be 1/2 off during the FAT. 4) See above 5) Yes! 6) No brackets! Prizes based on rank and win progression.
Mr Doomrooster sir, have the FAT tables been fixed so that players banned for hacking mid tournament are removed from them? The bracket I was in last time had a total of 20 players banned during the FAT and their names and high scores stayed on the table, thus depriving honest players of prizes.
Oh, so this will be a coiners FAT then.... you have the coin to keep repairing your toy box and you can keep fighting.... This makes me sad. I have really been enjoying the FATs. I will not enjoy this one so much.
It's also the first of its kind, so how this FAT performs will give us a sense of what changes need to be made for future iterations.
this is a BAD idea...you have removed any chance of non coiners getting anywhere near top prizes, and even the coiners will be venting their anger, and you know personally that we always point the guns at you Rooster...you're the CM, you're OUR middle man with Kixeye, so when we start shooting, you're the first target we go for besides Harbin (AKA the biggest Douche-Man).
uranium insurance saved us money...that is what Kixeye are after, so you've removed it. this means our only venture of having fun in the FAT without having to worry about repair times is to use instant repair ships, which some of us have already spoken about doing.
Time to break out the missile Sws... OH WAIT!!!! they probably wont have those options in the toy box!! Dont forget we can only use what they give us. As far as instant repairs, there probably wont be any. We will be fk'd
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You know the new format is bad if all-star pro Kixeye quarteback SAS is saying something negative about it.
Wil Harbin said:
Kixeye hasn’t done as much to annoy its users as other game companies have. It doesn’t sell decorations for games and try to milk gamers for all they’re worth, and it doesn’t sell advanced weaponry that will allow rich gamers to wipe out poor gamers. But it does allow users to accelerate time in the game. Rather than wait for something to be developed, a user can pay to accelerate the build time for units.
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You will exclude 99% of the players by implementing point number 3. Average fleet would take 10+ hours to repair with half repairs if you lose. 2 battles per day are they serious?
Also does repairing the ships you don't own take your own dock to repair thus stopping you from repairing ships you actually own?
NO INSURANCE REPAIRS = very few players will participate. In the space of 2 months, Kixeye have taken something the players enjoyed and all players coiner and non coiner alike could play and have turned it into nothing short of a money grab. I hope you are proud to be part of a team dead set on killing this game which pays your wages sir, and I hope for your sake you have sent out your CV in search of a new position.
This is the ultimate in a long line of stupid ill conceived ideas that have sprouted out of the Kixeye bean counters bottoms.
What pisses me off the most is the fact that Kix is supposedly changing format of the FAT to "Level the playing field"... HAH!!! How is Kix leveling the playing field by getting rid of insurance? Oh thats right, they arent. Again its just another attempt of Kix to get money from the coiners while once again the non coiners get the shaft.
Good job Kix, keep pushing us non coiners away and lose the majority of your player base. Then see how fun the game is.
uranium insurance saved us money...that is what Kixeye are after, so you've removed it. this means our only venture of having fun in the FAT without having to worry about repair times is to use instant repair ships, which some of us have already spoken about doing.