7/2 FAT Official Discussion
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1 If we choose a fleet is that the only fleet we get to use or can we add and subtract different builds to give a range of ships/fleets?
2 Are people going to still have the ability to use rockets?
3 Last tourney they nixed the U return but gave out extra VXP bonuses. If we cannot get VXP are we going to be able to get U back
4 If we are not going to get U back, are they going to run the dredges again during the tournament (I know they will be there this weekend but will they be there again for the FAT)?
5 My assumption is that the fleets will be instant build (at least I am hoping)
6 Based on Doom's post on another thread there will be no rank and thus everyone is on the same playing field and the brackets and prizes will be the same across the board?
2.) unless we will also not allowed to use crews im assuming yes they will let us you rockets (in that case high turn speed or spread your ships often)
3.) it would make sense that if they take away vxp they would give something back to compromise so hopefully yes we get u return back
4.) yes if no u return n if u return (this is a guess but might be correct)
5.) yes the fleets you create will be instant as well as their refits as lng as their repaired.
6.) yea i think i also read they will be totally redoing the ranking system .
again this is based off the info i been seeing doom post would be nice to see doom reply to these questions as my informatino i gave could have gotten changed or be out dated.
2) Select number of hulls and components. 20 hulls. Limited components. We will most likely add more hulls or swap hulls out for further iterations.
3) Right, since these aren't your ships, you will not gain VXP for them.
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2) Hmm, not sure. I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
3) No Uranium back but also no insurance. Instead repairs will be 1/2 off during the FAT.
4) See above
5) Yes!
6) No brackets! Prizes based on rank and win progression.
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So if our fleet dies then we will have to coin repair instantly to be able to use it within the same day? Even with half repair this will stop most non coiners from competing for top prize.
I'm a moderate coiner, but this surely is a nail in the coffin for those that don't.
I've kinda enjoyed the Torney's so far, yes they needed tweaking, but this new one sounds like a pile of crap before its even started..
Seriously who thinks this stuff up...
Why not go back to the FAT format we had in April/May?
All you need to really fix is the prize brackets and pinch kings. You don't need to reinvent the whole system.
Keep it fun. Let us use our own fleets. Let us get our uranium back. Let us rank our fleets. Let us compete on an even playing field.
Sometimes it's the little things that make us happy and not the grand plans.
You say 1/2 repair cost for the FAT. What about the 25% free repair so you only ever need to repair 75% of your fleet. Is that included in the FAT or no?
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Here's a suggestion Doom take it as you will.
1. Coiners bracket you can coin your fleet as much as you want to repair
2. Non coiners bracket. Crew is all you can use IE Grease Monkies and reup it once. Semi no coin You have to select which one you will play in at the start of the tourney. Let the coiners go at it otherwise, you'll need to massively expand your prize pool.
3. P2Win formats typically will draw a few folks that have the coin to play. I have a feeling this FAT will get blasted kinda hard on BV. In most cases these games across any platform offer a small glimmer of hope to the F2P player if they put in enough chair time. At least give them the prizes. 1/2 repair for these fleets is nice but with most fleets that are 1/2 way decent i dont know the hulls will be a min 4 hour repair maybe 3 hours if you get 25% back. You'll lose a lot of light and moderate coiners in this event because they cant compete, they cant spend Uranium for insurance to fight the heavy coiners.
4. Single bracket with every one in it. New idea just hit me. Uranium for Fleet slots. If you can spend enough U for enough fleet slots to cycle as you go in and fight that could potentially off set it.
so if i do arena, i have to use the stuff you give me, and coin it to? what the hell are you guys doing to this game? are you that concerned with money?
the arena used to be fun, i looked forward to it, i stock piled uranium and if i ran out guess what i did on fridays? i loaded back up and actually coined
to get it. but now no uranium insurance and now i gotta pay. yeah way to screw with a good thing.
1) The first fleet slot is free. You can swap out ships and builds at will and at no cost, or you can unlock more Fleets slots to pick & choose among builds.
2) Hmm, not sure. I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
3) No Uranium back but also no insurance. Instead repairs will be 1/2 off during the FAT.
4) See above
5) Yes!
6) No brackets! Prizes based on rank and win progression.
Thanks for the follow up on the questions.
Okay just to be clear....
1 - On number one when you say "unlock" more fleet slots to expand builds? Is there going to be a time/resource/U/coin cost to do this?
3 - On number three...am I to understand that you are saying we cannot get repair insurance but will have half repairs, and in order to be competitive I would have to coin repairs on a fleet I don't even own?? Ummmmm what are the developers thinking???
I am not going to go off on the coiner rant....I coin but in moderation. But I am not going to spend coin on repairing a fleet that I do not own and can only use in the arena.
Remember that the game needs players, coiners and non coiners alike.
Coiners need fleets to beat in the arena....it is obvious from the last tournament with the multiple half filled brackets and people in brackets that never played a match that FAT participation was down. I think you need to adjust this or you will see a sharp decrease in participation and soon there will only be a few competing at all.
Removal of uranium insurance - so the initial idea/thought behind this style FAT was to see who had skill with a set box of tricks so it didnt come down to who has greatest built and ranked and everyone could have an equal chance of competing even the non coiner sooooo how they going to compete now they have to coin repairs ?? so not only have you screwed those who built an arena specific fleet now with the change "To make it fair and give everyone a level playing field" youve screwed the non coiners again lol do you guys just like to go out of your way to upset everyone ?
Doug said on Bv - we dont want people to feel like they have to/are forced to coin/spend we want them to feel like they want to - people were willing to spend a little for the uranium insurance i dont see them wanting to spend a chit ton on repairs alot of people who are med to low coiners budget a large portion of their spend on the 1 raid a month adding a second and calling it something different when people have asked for a break in the content your bringing out kinda goes against what the players tll you they want.
in summary i think this idea is a great concept but adding coin repairs to it is dumb your alienating the very people you wanted to help get involved smh
the concept of it is good and i think would be brilliant if you kept uri insurance in it without it i know i for one (and i coin lots) wont be doing it and i know a ton of people have messaged the BPC page saying your killing something that was truly great by again making it a coiners playground uranium repairs is fine with no payback since peeps need to coin to get the uri anyways and the coiners will coin rockets and crews theres no need to freeze so many people out and the very ones your idea was supposed to help
wow. that is a big change. and a terrible one. unless you are restricted to basically zero armor, i'll be good for about 10 battles total over the entire FAT. Or will the tournament now be based on ratio of wins to losses?
with raids you have the option to minimise your repairs with careful strategy so that you can play through the entire raid. That is just not possible for FAT ......
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re: coiners FAT feedback ... All valid points.
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I enjoyed previous tourneys...but I'm out on this one. Coining raids is enough for me. As a casual coiner i wont be sinking money into this.
You had the potential to make this a somewhat level playing field and again have swung and miss.
i saw a post about changes in how FAT will be played from onward. that is not good.
we love the FAT bcoz we play with the fleet we own. to rank fleets. and to have continues fun.
now kix is taking all the fun from the FAT.
not all players can coin the game. and if i make a fleet of 40+lvl even with 1/2 repairs during the 3 or 4 days tournament i can play only few matches if i dont coin.
if these changes are being made bcoz kix dont have any idea how to match the fleets correctly (same level and specs of fleet should fight with same fleets or same level players should go against same level players) then its a mistake kix is making . taking all the fun from FAT. i am still a 48 lvl but i do have fun in FAT.
i hope kix will not kill the FAT and continue it with the same way it was going before.