As I feared with the War Horses

CrimsonMetal68 · 28 Apr 2015, 10:27PM

Maybe at max they would be a useful unit in some aspects

But the process you would have to go through to get them there would probably be 100x HARDER,LONGER and ANNOYING as the SF have been

I am sure most of us have already been through getting the SF through those last couple of levels...how slow the process is. Just little straps at a time.

Well every level including level 2 will be like that

I took my new one into a 50 I had already prepped like you would for the SF....I had two squads of maxed SF with it and was running Its Electric. Still it died when about one third of the base was gone and it got 200k xp

That's pretty pathetic actually

And to repair one from death is almost 4 hours

You will spend all your repair time on these (one plat = 14 hours)

Im sorry but bang for your buck storage wise the SF are far far far FAR away a better option

If you have to choose in what to buy....Max out your SF before these things

They are decent in theory....But too many flaws in the end product

steve.i.downs · 28 Apr 2015, 10:44PM

Agreed. The only players who will get them to a stage where they're useful in the next 6 months are coiners. For a unit that has to take damage to upgrade 3.5 hours repair to each unit is ridiculous

Crofty_1 · 28 Apr 2015, 11:36PM

I hate to be agreeing with you again Crimson, but the new tank S.U.C.K.S I only got 2 and will probably never use them.

Joe_M · 28 Apr 2015, 11:40PM

Because of the repair time and cost to upgrade... Having 1 or 2 for a base defense would not be all that bad... specially if you have a player who attacks with War Horse units on a regular basis..

CrimsonMetal68 · 28 Apr 2015, 11:45PM

I got 10 unlocked and will scrap the only one I built

It's a pure coiner thing....probably 100 bucks to coin one to max

375 space
Almost 4 hours repair
Upgrade normally will probably take 6 months our more....and your repair que will be only war horses.

Sorry just not seeing it

A lead op, heavy op, and 2 regular ops will do far more damage for the same space and not take as long to upgrade or repair

Joe_M · 28 Apr 2015, 11:56PM

Trying to use the War Horse as a single over powering plat unit would not be a good cost to reward pay off... but, using 1 or 2 in a plat as bait or support for faster units could be useful.

Of course, (per usual) if you are a player with the coin... a plat of these would be pretty much over whelming and make the game favor the coiner as would be expected from Kixeye. The War Horse is just another unit that will make non-coiners want to quit and provide bullies with the kind of unit it takes to dominate the game.

Daniel Holmes · 29 Apr 2015, 12:34AM

Joe_M said:

Trying to use the War Horse as a single over powering plat unit would not be a good cost to reward pay off... but, using 1 or 2 in a plat as bait or support for faster units could be useful.

Of course, (per usual) if you are a player with the coin... a plat of these would be pretty much over whelming and make the game favor the coiner as would be expected from Kixeye. The War Horse is just another unit that will make non-coiners want to quit and provide bullies with the kind of unit it takes to dominate the game.

I agree with everything you just said minus...

Joe_M said:

provide bullies with the kind of unit it takes to dominate the game.

It would have to be actually a GOOD unit, hell or even a DECENT unit, for this statement to be true.

Spec_op_blackpaint · 29 Apr 2015, 1:49AM

so lets ask them to change it i think it needs more splash tbh it should 3-6 shot infantry the video when the game came out shows what units counter what so air should be killing this lol not infantry time need to be reduced building time is okay but the upgrade time na not so much reduce it to what the sf are if not double what sf are

Whatisthis3 · 29 Apr 2015, 3:27AM

It's an alright unit. Needs support to make it work out well, though. It would be nice if the repair time was shortened.

My only warhorse has reached rank 10 without a single coin, so it's doable. Just... very annoying.

Daniel Holmes · 29 Apr 2015, 3:42AM

Whatisthis3 said:

It's an alright unit. Needs support to make it work out well, though. It would be nice if the repair time was shortened.

My only warhorse has reached rank 10 without a single coin, so it's doable. Just... very annoying.

I would be very interested to hear what you are doing to have already gotten it to level 10...

Don't wanna call you a liar, but that seems very far fetched at this moment with what I have been seeing and hearing with the 12 Warhorses I bought.

BigBootyCutey · 29 Apr 2015, 4:11AM

Got one, build it, and used it with my SF and it still sucks.

1. Will take forever to rank up to 20 to be any good.
2. Repair time is way too long for a tank, 3 hrs and 30 mins just blows.
3. 500 space is more then any tank out there, compared to the hover at 150 and Elite Vanq at 250.

I already scrapped this unit to get my 500 space back. It totally sucks. I wish I never spent 250K XP on it. Should have gotten another Lead Op,Heavy Gunner and Operator 4 pack instead!

Whatisthis3 · 29 Apr 2015, 4:38AM

Daniel Holmes said:

Whatisthis3 said:

It's an alright unit. Needs support to make it work out well, though. It would be nice if the repair time was shortened.

My only warhorse has reached rank 10 without a single coin, so it's doable. Just... very annoying.

I would be very interested to hear what you are doing to have already gotten it to level 10...

Don't wanna call you a liar, but that seems very far fetched at this moment with what I have been seeing and hearing with the 12 Warhorses I bought.

I've basically just secured the 35 bases, and hit the storm turrets for HOURS on end. Million XP per base...
It takes such a long time to rank up. I had to grind it for 4~5 hours just to get it to rank 10.

Anonymouuse · 29 Apr 2015, 5:26AM

I got 2 and I have a use for them but I'll leave that up to the rest of you to find out. If I'm right and I don't know that I am....its going to be a very good use too.

Daniel Holmes · 29 Apr 2015, 5:47AM

anonymouse101011 said:

I got 2 and I have a use for them but I'll leave that up to the rest of you to find out. If I'm right and I don't know that I am....its going to be a very good use too.

Feel free to share lol.

Does that use include waiting for them to get customized? Because I am just not seeing it otherwise lol

TroyW · 29 Apr 2015, 6:31AM

There is a Schematic Coming so I will hold off judgement on the Warhorse until I know how it can be improved in the workshop.

Image: http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f185/minime000/War%20Commander/WCTemp/2015-04-27%2005%2028%2050.png

Plus its too early to make a judgement on if its useful or not I haven't had time to play around with it or use it with other units to make a that call.

Daniel Holmes · 29 Apr 2015, 7:37AM

TroyW said:

There is a Schematic Coming so I will hold off judgement on the Warhorse until I know how it can be improved in the workshop.

Plus its too early to make a judgement on if its useful or not I haven't had time to play around with it or use it with other units to make a that call.

Na, partner...I am afraid the schematic will suck on it still...

https://www.kixeye.com/forum/discussion/539317

Visitorhere · 29 Apr 2015, 8:03AM

Whatisthis3 said:

Daniel Holmes said:

Whatisthis3 said:

It's an alright unit. Needs support to make it work out well, though. It would be nice if the repair time was shortened.

My only warhorse has reached rank 10 without a single coin, so it's doable. Just... very annoying.

I would be very interested to hear what you are doing to have already gotten it to level 10...

Don't wanna call you a liar, but that seems very far fetched at this moment with what I have been seeing and hearing with the 12 Warhorses I bought.

I've basically just secured the 35 bases, and hit the storm turrets for HOURS on end. Million XP per base...
It takes such a long time to rank up. I had to grind it for 4~5 hours just to get it to rank 10.

From the experience got with SF, the first few level is easliy attainable. However, it will be a pain when come to the last few level. Don't forget you still have SF to upgrade the same way and future new units will upgarde the same way.
I had said before, this new upgrading system suck hard time. Thorium is not hard to get, resources are there. Why does Kixeye change the way to do upgrade? All for one reason: COINS.

Daniel Holmes · 29 Apr 2015, 8:22AM

Visitorhere said:

Whatisthis3 said:

Daniel Holmes said:

Whatisthis3 said:

It's an alright unit. Needs support to make it work out well, though. It would be nice if the repair time was shortened.

My only warhorse has reached rank 10 without a single coin, so it's doable. Just... very annoying.

I would be very interested to hear what you are doing to have already gotten it to level 10...

Don't wanna call you a liar, but that seems very far fetched at this moment with what I have been seeing and hearing with the 12 Warhorses I bought.

I've basically just secured the 35 bases, and hit the storm turrets for HOURS on end. Million XP per base...
It takes such a long time to rank up. I had to grind it for 4~5 hours just to get it to rank 10.

From the experience got with SF, the first few level is easliy attainable. However, it will be a pain when come to the last few level. Don't forget you still have SF to upgrade the same way and future new units will upgarde the same way.
I had said before, this new upgrading system suck hard time. Thorium is not hard to get, resources are there. Why does Kixeye change the way to do upgrade? All for one reason: COINS.

Yip, I agree with pretty much everything you said there...and the crazy part is...SF leveling is 'PRETTY DAM FUN!' compared to Warhorse Leveling...

Warhorse leveling has so many negatives going for it

3 hour 30 mins repair time
God aweful slow rate of fire
Shorter range
MUCH higher XP costs for leveling.

Not gonna bother with leveling them honestly...practically the ONLY good part about this new XP leveling system...units are BUILT from WF/Barracks at Max range...Thats about it...

Crofty_1 · 29 Apr 2015, 8:43AM

I had 1 built and 1 in the queue and scrapped them both now. Just glad I didn't get more!

girney · 29 Apr 2015, 1:37PM

it is a shame i wont be able to test this before event is over. i should have had ten minutes left but now the timer says i will miss event by 14 minutes. how does this happen? the war factory has never been hit so why did the timer change?

Fert000 · 29 Apr 2015, 1:42PM

well the schematic is coming out soon, I'm not worried, I'll max it i can see uses for it, same with the arch

TexasRangers001 · 29 Apr 2015, 2:02PM

suggestion if you got new sf units put the warhorse with them and use them to get res or thor they will upgrade faster that way

Pizza The Hut · 29 Apr 2015, 2:08PM

I just tried mine in a large thor. I would click on a target and it would stop short and not fire, to long to build and repair

loki asgard · 29 Apr 2015, 2:16PM

i remember so many people saying the scorcher and guardian were crap, the onis were crap, now how many of you love them, it is a case of give them time, you all want everything now and if you dont get it you cry like a little girl who broke her favourite barbie doll. grow up and wait, and see what the plans are. and if still the same then cry like a little school girl like you are doing now

Fert000 · 29 Apr 2015, 2:40PM

If U are trying to use warhorse how about U not use a single one alone, wait till U have enough so they aren't fighting alone

captianPhil · 29 Apr 2015, 2:54PM

I've basically just secured the 35 bases, and hit the storm turrets for HOURS on end. Million XP per base...
It takes such a long time to rank up. I had to grind it for 4~5 hours just to get it to rank 10.

Dude they may have nerfed the xp based off you post. just did one and from the air turrets got 384k

Daniel Holmes · 29 Apr 2015, 3:14PM

captianPhil said:

I've basically just secured the 35 bases, and hit the storm turrets for HOURS on end. Million XP per base...
It takes such a long time to rank up. I had to grind it for 4~5 hours just to get it to rank 10.
Dude they may have nerfed the xp based off you post. just did one and from the air turrets got 384k

I would agree with you phil, if what the previous poster was saying, it certainly doesn't appear to be the case now...

I did several level 70s, and left the 2 Storm turrets for a single warhorse to kill...its still at like 2mil of 2170k XP needed to level after like 4 bases that way...

jugdesh.mirwani · 29 Apr 2015, 7:23PM

Seems dumb to keep upping the repair time and therefore the gold it takes to repair for each next best tank. It is like they feel obligated to stagger it based on comparison of all tanks, for example. It makes no sense because nobody uses their rhinos anymore since they are totally useless regardless if it takes less time to repair. If these new tanks were any good we would in kind get rid of eVanqs.

So there is no value or player appreciation over this scaling of repair due to kixeye keep making last best unit useless. All they are doing is making it more expensive to repair your platoon of tank and the game more boring due to wait time.

As everyone know when the price go up the more less likely anyone will coin repair. This inflation just pricing themselves out of market

Honeybuns · 29 Apr 2015, 10:02PM

TroyW said:

There is a Schematic Coming so I will hold off judgement on the Warhorse until I know how it can be improved in the workshop.

Plus its too early to make a judgement on if its useful or not I haven't had time to play around with it or use it with other units to make a that call.

Looks like some kind of tank with a strap-on dildo, perhaps that is the origin of its name, because it has a big sized Horse -censored-.

Joe_M · 29 Apr 2015, 10:39PM

"This inflation (is) just pricing themselves out of market." True... and, an understatement.

snydersh · 29 Apr 2015, 10:57PM

my biggest problem with the warhorse is that it is so easy to dodge the shots.......when using it for any kind of defense or against a live player it stands very little chance at doing any good when it can be outplayed and take hits without being able to kill the unit hitting it. .......the only thing i found it to good for is if you put the warhorse and sf in a toon together it makes a great jailing toon. the warhorse can kill the banshees that cause the sf so many problems.

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