Tips and Tricks - Hailstorm

  • Imported_From_DET
    Imported_From_DET
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 81
    Just too say thats not a new idea been doing that for a while now and doing it on my NC fleet right now but the build time is rediculous i could care less about repair time let me get it built and ill keep wrecking it :)
    EXACTLY! lol. Build times are long, but that is for the "coining population" to coin the new hulls. But Robot, here is a thing to think of.. People have already spent money on these coins for say.. Kixeye, as a company, already received the payment for these enhancers to the game. Why not lower these times so people would be able to "gain the advantage" that these people have paid for? PLEASE reduce the times.
  • tim craven
    tim craven
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 4
    I have not build fleets from 4 raids ago the game is getting ridiculous, i have been playing for 2 years and its tending to lean towards people who coin not 100 or 200 but 500 a week just to keep up, so good luck to them specs seem to just about sink most fleets on the high sea   
  • Kel_Stalker
    Kel_Stalker
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 471
    Loco266 said:
    so are you ever going to make an event for lower lvls maybe around 40-60
    The last 2 raids were wonderful for me, I was lv44 I think when the Interceptor raid started, and lv 48 now. Past 2 raids I got Interceptors, D92-U, Mastodons and D55-Z for no coin. How, exactly, is that not low-level friendly?

    The amount of whining in this thread, and the raid hasn't even started.... I thought the game was mostly adults. I'm probably the youngest on the forums, why am I one of the only ones planning how I'm going to do the raid free (just like I did the last two, where there was *gasp* the same crying from the rest of the forums!) instead of crying about the difficulty?
    Could not have said it any better - bravo Loco266, well said, well said...  Myself, when I was L40-L50 I was a farm - I couldn't win a coin toss with a double headed coin....  I just plugged away and plugged away and now, as a L67 player who paid his dues for the past few years, I am becoming a formidible force.  I have an MCX Torrent 3 fleet, a B-Torp Spec fleet ranked to 75% as of yesterday, a Chain III SCX R5 fleet, a Reaper fleet soon to be refitted with deluge missiles - a fully built Grimshine Chaos Mortar flag with 2 Triton escorts, each with 2 more Chaos mortars each and the rest countermeasures - Currently building my 4th Z missile Interceptor but none with armor for ranking faster... what else? Oh yeah, a fleet of Goli's for nothing more than guards - and have earned all 3 Launchers and NC hull but haven't had even a single break to even think about starting that fleet of 4 (2 months or so for that fleet... sigh) and the Limited Interdictor sub killer hull also yet to be started (but is going to be the flagship for my 4 Interceptors) and....  OH YEAH!!  Did I mention that in over 3 years of playing this game I have NEVER SPENT A SINGLE DIME out of my own pocket.  (Was gifted 100 gold last years or maybe the year before? ....for Xmas, and spent that very sparingly and wisely, but that's IT!)   So my point is, if your L50ish and think your still a baby in the game?  IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE!  I didn't have a single successfuly base hit to my name until I finished my Grimshine (2 month build) at around Level 63 or 64 I think?  And it was only a few short months ago that I made 100% of my quota for the alliance gunner bonus.... 

    So all you whiners and cry babies:  Go Frickin cry to your mama cause you ain't gonna get any sympather here - If you don't have the $$ or are stubborn like me and simply refuse to ever pull my credit card out cause I know it wouldn't be a 'one time thing' and there would be no turning back....  then DEAL WITH IT!!  For crying out loudly: BATTLE PIRATES IS FREE TO PLAY - Kix is a business and sure, they want to bring in a profit and I'm glad they do, otherwise, one day we would all log on and just get a 404 Error instead of the game.  Think about this: For those of you old enough to remeber life BEFORE the internet, perhaps you recall hanging out in the pool halls and arcades as a teemager?  I was pretty frickin good at PacMan, Berserk, Donkey Kong and Stargate, as well as refining pinball skills I carry with me to this day in my mid 40s, but it sure cost me ALOT MORE $$$ in quarters - just please people, STOP CRYING IN THESE FORUMS and be happy Kixeye is generous enough to allow those of us without the resources to play for free.

    And, that being said, just one more thing:  Kixeye, can we PLEASE get another opportunity to win the Stealth armor for subs?  D2-S and/or something new that reduces detection range?  I have 2 full sub fleets, Specs and Reapers, my specs being ranked up to 75% and I have been waiting for S armor since before I startyed building my very first Reaper with V Torps - it HAS to be rotating in sometime soon yes?  Alot of people really need it and hey, think about it - if the coiners who need it Get it, what a bonus for you Kixeye cause I guarantee a large percentage of those individuals who are coiners will refit their sub armor in a couple of clicks, instead of a couple of weeks or more, like I know I will have to do.....

    And dats all I gots ta sayabot DAT!
  • alwaysrunning
    alwaysrunning
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 530
    best trick is to coin
    Hulls won: Cuda, Goliath, Spectre, Super fortress, Hurricane, Mercury, Mauler, Vindicator, Interdictor, Dreadnought X, Berserker, nighthawk, thresher, scx, jugx, mastadon, avenger, hellhound, atlas cruiser, interceptor, enforcer, and a bunch more crap.

    Weapons: Chaos Mortar, Impulse F and U, Javelin, halo, siege torp d65 z, disruptor turret, inferno rockets, cryo launcher, magma thrower, siege missile d55z

    Not a penny spent on this game!

  • leonard.omolecki
    leonard.omolecki
    Potential Threat
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 76
    Not everyone GOT THE INTERCEPTOR HULL last raid. Kixeye is just wants people to coin to keep up!
  • homerj68
    homerj68
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 43
    those who dont complain nd claim  the raids are easy ================= money nd are kixeye employes  nd familes i state again kixeye does not care about there loyal coustmers the ceo has said he would milk us for all he can  again i say game looks better nd some of play is better its the raids that need  a better look at
    THOMAS HOMER
  • Kel_Stalker
    Kel_Stalker
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 471
    edited 8 Nov 2014, 2:44PM
    homerj68 said:
    those who dont complain nd claim  the raids are easy ================= money nd are kixeye employes  nd familes i state again kixeye does not care about there loyal coustmers the ceo has said he would milk us for all he can  again i say game looks better nd some of play is better its the raids that need  a better look at
    What does "nd" mean?  Are you speaking engish?  Is this an acronym for some common expression?  What are you trying to say?  Is this yet another 'pouty-post' or are you actually trying to make a point about something that hasn't been whined about before?   (heavy sigh....)
  • howie6237
    howie6237
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Sep 2014 Posts: 566
    edited 8 Nov 2014, 2:52PM
    I am a level 45 who has coined maybe $10 when I was low becuase I needed a BB A to use on the raid I started during.I have been playing almost two months and I welcome the challenge the harder raid brings.May just be where I was a medium tank brawler in WoT but bring it on kixeye,Gotta love a good fight!

     We got all the time in the world so why complain about repair times or build times?I know I haven't got to the big ships yet with one month build times but by then I'll spend that time ranking and helping my alliance out.Don't got any ships to rank or an alliance to help? Go camping,read a book,watch supernatural or the walking dead or spend time with your wife/girl friend/family.

    PS.1 minute in and I've already got a dislike??? Don't like what i say,post about it then.
    Proud to be a Bp youtuber of pve. minimum build time fleets and base guards :D 

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkv0jvMUJaGfQFx35DtM9bA
  • Doombunny
    Doombunny
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 1,332
    homerj68 said:
    those who dont complain nd claim  the raids are easy ================= money nd are kixeye employes  nd familes i state again kixeye does not care about there loyal coustmers the ceo has said he would milk us for all he can  again i say game looks better nd some of play is better its the raids that need  a better look at
    What does "nd" mean?  Are you speaking engish?  Is this an acronym for some common expression?  What are you trying to say?  Is this yet another 'pouty-post' or are you actually trying to make a point about something that hasn't been whined about before?   (heavy sigh....)
    If you had the brains god gave a turnip, you could use your innate pattern recognition skills and realize that 'nd' is what you get when you're typing really fast and miss the 'a' key.  This is further supported by the context in which 'nd' appears.

    Way to attack a grammatical error and not the argument.  Troll harder.
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    labaron26 said:
    Nice builds Mr Robot....Now please tell us how we get this altogether in the 5 or so days before the Raid....I did not do the math on the coin cost, but it has to more than my monthly mortgage payment, or maybe even yearly.......thanks a lot.
    This raid style has been here for 3 months now, plenty of time to build a fleet or 2 that could do the normal campaign for your level. Enough time to build a single fleet that could do the Elite target with some coining.

    The fleets I used for the first one, are going to be useful for this one. Elite might take a bit if I want to do it, but I know that i will be able to handle the siege campaign in 35 to 45 min, for about 6 to 10 coin per 5 targets.
  • homerj68
    homerj68
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 43
    Doombunny said:
    homerj68 said:
    those who dont complain nd claim  the raids are easy ================= money nd are kixeye employes  nd familes i state again kixeye does not care about there loyal coustmers the ceo has said he would milk us for all he can  again i say game looks better nd some of play is better its the raids that need  a better look at
    What does "nd" mean?  Are you speaking engish?  Is this an acronym for some common expression?  What are you trying to say?  Is this yet another 'pouty-post' or are you actually trying to make a point about something that hasn't been whined about before?   (heavy sigh....)
    If you had the brains god gave a turnip, you could use your innate pattern recognition skills and realize that 'nd' is what you get when you're typing really fast and miss the 'a' key.  This is further supported by the context in which 'nd' appears.

    Way to attack a grammatical error and not the argument.  Troll harder.
    lil  man no 1 is perfect  so go back kixeye ND  eat youre lunch there is no need to be so angry at  the comment  relax go rearange some pixels   ND  tell youre parents to let you have some sun today  im soorry you  dont agree with  my  perfect typing skills was not meant to upset  you
    THOMAS HOMER
  • Kel_Stalker
    Kel_Stalker
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 471
    Doombunny said:
    homerj68 said:
    those who dont complain nd claim  the raids are easy ================= money nd are kixeye employes  nd familes i state again kixeye does not care about there loyal coustmers the ceo has said he would milk us for all he can  again i say game looks better nd some of play is better its the raids that need  a better look at
    What does "nd" mean?  Are you speaking engish?  Is this an acronym for some common expression?  What are you trying to say?  Is this yet another 'pouty-post' or are you actually trying to make a point about something that hasn't been whined about before?   (heavy sigh....)
    If you had the brains god gave a turnip, you could use your innate pattern recognition skills and realize that 'nd' is what you get when you're typing really fast and miss the 'a' key.  This is further supported by the context in which 'nd' appears.

    Way to attack a grammatical error and not the argument.  Troll harder.
    Actually, I figured an 'and' would fit even before I had finished reading your post, so I suppose my intelligence may surpass that of a turnip after all, or for that matter, quite likely that of ANY common garden vegetable.  At the time, I thought it would be a fresh and possibly amusing way of 'indirectly' addressing your 'argument' which is just another pouty-post by some unappreciative individual who perhaps cannot understand the simple fact that Kixeye is a BUSINESS that must cover the high costs of providing the exceptional online gaming experience they do, absolutely FREE for those who cannot, or will not spend any real money.  You sir, are completely mistaken by stating that Kixeye does not care about their loyal customer's, in fact it is with a very high level of confidence that I believe you could not be more wrong! I would go so far as to say, they care MOST about; and I quote:  THEIR LOYAL CUSTOMERS.  A customer being, BY DEFINITION: "One that buys goods or services"  (To 'buy' implies spending $$$)  However, if I could make an assumption by interpreting the context in which you presented your 'argument', perhaps you meant that: "Kixeye cares fmost about their loyal customers, but not so much about whiny crybaby freeloaders who show no appreciation for their generousity or their extremely high level of commitment to providing the leading edge ground breaking technoligical services they do, to a clientelle of literally millions and millions of users daily, with an almost non-existent level of unanticipated down time.  Was that perhaps an accurate interpretation of your 'argument'?  (I'm guessing it is)

    Regards,  Kel Stalker, BCom MIS, A+ MCSE

  • homerj68
    homerj68
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 43
    Doombunny said:
    homerj68 said:
    those who dont complain nd claim  the raids are easy ================= money nd are kixeye employes  nd familes i state again kixeye does not care about there loyal coustmers the ceo has said he would milk us for all he can  again i say game looks better nd some of play is better its the raids that need  a better look at
    What does "nd" mean?  Are you speaking engish?  Is this an acronym for some common expression?  What are you trying to say?  Is this yet another 'pouty-post' or are you actually trying to make a point about something that hasn't been whined about before?   (heavy sigh....)
    If you had the brains god gave a turnip, you could use your innate pattern recognition skills and realize that 'nd' is what you get when you're typing really fast and miss the 'a' key.  This is further supported by the context in which 'nd' appears.

    Way to attack a grammatical error and not the argument.  Troll harder.
    Actually, I figured an 'and' would fit even before I had finished reading your post, so I suppose my intelligence may surpass that of a turnip after all, or for that matter, quite likely that of ANY common garden vegetable.  At the time, I thought it would be a fresh and possibly amusing way of 'indirectly' addressing your 'argument' which is just another pouty-post by some unappreciative individual who perhaps cannot understand the simple fact that Kixeye is a BUSINESS that must cover the high costs of providing the exceptional online gaming experience they do, absolutely FREE for those who cannot, or will not spend any real money.  You sir, are completely mistaken by stating that Kixeye does not care about their loyal customer's, in fact it is with a very high level of confidence that I believe you could not be more wrong! I would go so far as to say, they care MOST about; and I quote:  THEIR LOYAL CUSTOMERS.  A customer being, BY DEFINITION: "One that buys goods or services"  (To 'buy' implies spending $$$)  However, if I could make an assumption by interpreting the context in which you presented your 'argument', perhaps you meant that: "Kixeye cares fmost about their loyal customers, but not so much about whiny crybaby freeloaders who show no appreciation for their generousity or their extremely high level of commitment to providing the leading edge ground breaking technoligical services they do, to a clientelle of literally millions and millions of users daily, with an almost non-existent level of unanticipated down time.  Was that perhaps an accurate interpretation of your 'argument'?  (I'm guessing it is)

    Regards,  Kel Stalker, BCom MIS, A+ MCSE

    AGAIN IM SORRY FOR NOT LET REBEING SMART LIKE YOU I KNOW IM NOT THE BEST IN LIFE AND IN THIS GAME  BUT WHAT I HAVE SEEN IS MANY PLAYERS  OF SAME LEVEL  BETTER PLAYERS THAN I  I KNOW THAT DONT TAKE MUCH RIGHT BUT EVEN THEY ARE COMPLAING ABOUT THE RAIDS YES IM AWARE KIXEYE IS IN NEED OF MAKING MPNET A ND HAVE COST BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TI SEE A LIL BEND IN RAIDS LET ME SAY KIXEYE HAS MADE A   GOOD GAME TO PLAY I HAVE MADE SOME FREINDS  IN GAME AND NOW I SEE 1 THAT HATES ME IN FOURMS BUT LIFE WILL CONTIUE ON  I CAN ONLY APLOGIZE FOR MY IGNORANCE  BUT YOURE HATRED IS A RIGHT OF YOURE MUSLIM BELIEF SO KEEP ONND I APLOGIZE 4 UPSETING U
    THOMAS HOMER
  • Kel_Stalker
    Kel_Stalker
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 471
    homerj68 said:
    Doombunny said:
    homerj68 said:
    those who dont complain nd claim  the raids are easy ================= money nd are kixeye employes  nd familes i state again kixeye does not care about there loyal coustmers the ceo has said he would milk us for all he can  again i say game looks better nd some of play is better its the raids that need  a better look at
    What does "nd" mean?  Are you speaking engish?  Is this an acronym for some common expression?  What are you trying to say?  Is this yet another 'pouty-post' or are you actually trying to make a point about something that hasn't been whined about before?   (heavy sigh....)
    If you had the brains god gave a turnip, you could use your innate pattern recognition skills and realize that 'nd' is what you get when you're typing really fast and miss the 'a' key.  This is further supported by the context in which 'nd' appears.

    Way to attack a grammatical error and not the argument.  Troll harder.
    Actually, I figured an 'and' would fit even before I had finished reading your post, so I suppose my intelligence may surpass that of a turnip after all, or for that matter, quite likely that of ANY common garden vegetable.  At the time, I thought it would be a fresh and possibly amusing way of 'indirectly' addressing your 'argument' which is just another pouty-post by some unappreciative individual who perhaps cannot understand the simple fact that Kixeye is a BUSINESS that must cover the high costs of providing the exceptional online gaming experience they do, absolutely FREE for those who cannot, or will not spend any real money.  You sir, are completely mistaken by stating that Kixeye does not care about their loyal customer's, in fact it is with a very high level of confidence that I believe you could not be more wrong! I would go so far as to say, they care MOST about; and I quote:  THEIR LOYAL CUSTOMERS.  A customer being, BY DEFINITION: "One that buys goods or services"  (To 'buy' implies spending $$$)  However, if I could make an assumption by interpreting the context in which you presented your 'argument', perhaps you meant that: "Kixeye cares fmost about their loyal customers, but not so much about whiny crybaby freeloaders who show no appreciation for their generousity or their extremely high level of commitment to providing the leading edge ground breaking technoligical services they do, to a clientelle of literally millions and millions of users daily, with an almost non-existent level of unanticipated down time.  Was that perhaps an accurate interpretation of your 'argument'?  (I'm guessing it is)

    Regards,  Kel Stalker, BCom MIS, A+ MCSE

    AGAIN IM SORRY FOR NOT LET REBEING SMART LIKE YOU I KNOW IM NOT THE BEST IN LIFE AND IN THIS GAME  BUT WHAT I HAVE SEEN IS MANY PLAYERS  OF SAME LEVEL  BETTER PLAYERS THAN I  I KNOW THAT DONT TAKE MUCH RIGHT BUT EVEN THEY ARE COMPLAING ABOUT THE RAIDS YES IM AWARE KIXEYE IS IN NEED OF MAKING MPNET A ND HAVE COST BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TI SEE A LIL BEND IN RAIDS LET ME SAY KIXEYE HAS MADE A   GOOD GAME TO PLAY I HAVE MADE SOME FREINDS  IN GAME AND NOW I SEE 1 THAT HATES ME IN FOURMS BUT LIFE WILL CONTIUE ON  I CAN ONLY APLOGIZE FOR MY IGNORANCE  BUT YOURE HATRED IS A RIGHT OF YOURE MUSLIM BELIEF SO KEEP ONND I APLOGIZE 4 UPSETING U
    Apologiy accepted, but complete unnecessary for I completely understand and empathize with your frustration.  To be completely honest, I often feel somewhat frustrated myself for not being able to consistently achieve top rewards that I believe are only attainable by those who are willing to pay for them.  That being said, I hope you are not insulted and I would like to thank you for this very ammusing conversation which has completely lightened my mood this morning after an arduous and demanding work week.  For that I am grateful.  Perhaps we can even be friends?  I understand if you are reluctant though, and I just hope that perhaps others will be as entertained by this conversation as I was, but more importatntly, I hope it at least inspires some to 'think twice' about posting another tiresome and pointless comment which, as of today, I now refer to as a 'Pouty-Post" - hehe   Cheers Mate!  And best of luck to you in this next raid.  :wink: 
  • homerj68
    homerj68
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 43
    homerj68 said:
    Doombunny said:
    homerj68 said:
    those who dont complain nd claim  the raids are easy ================= money nd are kixeye employes  nd familes i state again kixeye does not care about there loyal coustmers the ceo has said he would milk us for all he can  again i say game looks better nd some of play is better its the raids that need  a better look at
    What does "nd" mean?  Are you speaking engish?  Is this an acronym for some common expression?  What are you trying to say?  Is this yet another 'pouty-post' or are you actually trying to make a point about something that hasn't been whined about before?   (heavy sigh....)
    If you had the brains god gave a turnip, you could use your innate pattern recognition skills and realize that 'nd' is what you get when you're typing really fast and miss the 'a' key.  This is further supported by the context in which 'nd' appears.

    Way to attack a grammatical error and not the argument.  Troll harder.
    Actually, I figured an 'and' would fit even before I had finished reading your post, so I suppose my intelligence may surpass that of a turnip after all, or for that matter, quite likely that of ANY common garden vegetable.  At the time, I thought it would be a fresh and possibly amusing way of 'indirectly' addressing your 'argument' which is just another pouty-post by some unappreciative individual who perhaps cannot understand the simple fact that Kixeye is a BUSINESS that must cover the high costs of providing the exceptional online gaming experience they do, absolutely FREE for those who cannot, or will not spend any real money.  You sir, are completely mistaken by stating that Kixeye does not care about their loyal customer's, in fact it is with a very high level of confidence that I believe you could not be more wrong! I would go so far as to say, they care MOST about; and I quote:  THEIR LOYAL CUSTOMERS.  A customer being, BY DEFINITION: "One that buys goods or services"  (To 'buy' implies spending $$$)  However, if I could make an assumption by interpreting the context in which you presented your 'argument', perhaps you meant that: "Kixeye cares fmost about their loyal customers, but not so much about whiny crybaby freeloaders who show no appreciation for their generousity or their extremely high level of commitment to providing the leading edge ground breaking technoligical services they do, to a clientelle of literally millions and millions of users daily, with an almost non-existent level of unanticipated down time.  Was that perhaps an accurate interpretation of your 'argument'?  (I'm guessing it is)

    Regards,  Kel Stalker, BCom MIS, A+ MCSE

    AGAIN IM SORRY FOR NOT LET REBEING SMART LIKE YOU I KNOW IM NOT THE BEST IN LIFE AND IN THIS GAME  BUT WHAT I HAVE SEEN IS MANY PLAYERS  OF SAME LEVEL  BETTER PLAYERS THAN I  I KNOW THAT DONT TAKE MUCH RIGHT BUT EVEN THEY ARE COMPLAING ABOUT THE RAIDS YES IM AWARE KIXEYE IS IN NEED OF MAKING MPNET A ND HAVE COST BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TI SEE A LIL BEND IN RAIDS LET ME SAY KIXEYE HAS MADE A   GOOD GAME TO PLAY I HAVE MADE SOME FREINDS  IN GAME AND NOW I SEE 1 THAT HATES ME IN FOURMS BUT LIFE WILL CONTIUE ON  I CAN ONLY APLOGIZE FOR MY IGNORANCE  BUT YOURE HATRED IS A RIGHT OF YOURE MUSLIM BELIEF SO KEEP ONND I APLOGIZE 4 UPSETING U
    Apologiy accepted, but complete unnecessary for I completely understand and empathize with your frustration.  To be completely honest, I often feel somewhat frustrated myself for not being able to consistently achieve top rewards that I believe are only attainable by those who are willing to pay for them.  That being said, I hope you are not insulted and I would like to thank you for this very ammusing conversation which has completely lightened my mood this morning after an arduous and demanding work week.  For that I am grateful.  Perhaps we can even be friends?  I understand if you are reluctant though, and I just hope that perhaps others will be as entertained by this conversation as I was, but more importatntly, I hope it at least inspires some to 'think twice' about posting another tiresome and pointless comment which, as of today, I now refer to as a 'Pouty-Post" - hehe   Cheers Mate!  And best of luck to you in this next raid.  :wink: 
    TO BE TRUTH  I WOULDNOT BEING FREINDS  BUT I WARN YOU IM NOT THAT SMART  I USE SHORT CUTS IN MY TYPING  AND I HAVE A WEIRD AND  STRANGE SENSE  IF NOT EVIL  HUMOR SO STAY SAFE AND HAVE FUN
    THOMAS HOMER
  • souleater123
    souleater123
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2014 Posts: 3
    will they make a raid that a low lvl like a 22 that can do it?
  • zommander234
    zommander234
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 86
    the last two raids you could do with thud 4 marauders using steel 2, steel 3 and eng 1
    sure not tier 4+, maybe not even tier 3, but at level 22 thats not exactly a huge issue
  • DeathStorm13
    DeathStorm13
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 1,025
    will they make a raid that a low lvl like a 22 that can do it?
    Nope never gona happen
    Normal work day at Kixeye . I had Jail Bars Twice does that make me an Double Badass ?

  • Archangel_1
    Archangel_1
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2013 Posts: 490
    Dreaded said:
    My personal  recommendation is Torrent SeaWolf. These little suckers are the ultimate prep fleet. Totally disposable throw-away fleet that does a ton of damage and instant repairs. (during 1/2 repair time) Running out of res? Zombie them and still be able to whittle anything down. At 4 days a ship, you still have time to pump out a couple.

    Here's my build:
    http://www.dahippo.com/bp/ship/#!70080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A8dA
    Good tip.  But the problem with it is that assumes your Shipyard is not currently busy so you can refit something.  Another good reason why Kixeye should give us a a DryDock for refitting or  a 2nd Shipyard.  Until then refitting anything is unlikely if any of the "longer build" ships/fleets are tying up the Shipyard.  Won't even be able to try this SeaWolf refit until after the December Raid event as my Shipyard is in an 80 day fleet build cycle (assuming no downtime to repair a base after being attacked) for one fleet.
  • tonseltickler
    tonseltickler
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 543
    Dreaded said:
    My personal  recommendation is Torrent SeaWolf. These little suckers are the ultimate prep fleet. Totally disposable throw-away fleet that does a ton of damage and instant repairs. (during 1/2 repair time) Running out of res? Zombie them and still be able to whittle anything down. At 4 days a ship, you still have time to pump out a couple.

    Here's my build:
    http://www.dahippo.com/bp/ship/#!70080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A8dA
    Good tip.  But the problem with it is that assumes your Shipyard is not currently busy so you can refit something.  Another good reason why Kixeye should give us a a DryDock for refitting or  a 2nd Shipyard.  Until then refitting anything is unlikely if any of the "longer build" ships/fleets are tying up the Shipyard.  Won't even be able to try this SeaWolf refit until after the December Raid event as my Shipyard is in an 80 day fleet build cycle (assuming no downtime to repair a base after being attacked) for one fleet.
    great point archangel, never considered that
  • martin.harris.5
    martin.harris.5
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 145
    Dreaded said:
    My personal  recommendation is Torrent SeaWolf. These little suckers are the ultimate prep fleet. Totally disposable throw-away fleet that does a ton of damage and instant repairs. (during 1/2 repair time) Running out of res? Zombie them and still be able to whittle anything down. At 4 days a ship, you still have time to pump out a couple.

    Here's my build:
    http://www.dahippo.com/bp/ship/#!70080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A80080001V0R0LA9A9A9A8A8dA
    FYI for all these torrent builds. Everytime you have a pair of torrent 2's on a hull, if you replace them with one torrent 3 and one torrent 1 it is the same exact weight, more damage. 
  • martin.harris.5
    martin.harris.5
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 145
    labaron26 said:
    Nice builds Mr Robot....Now please tell us how we get this altogether in the 5 or so days before the Raid....I did not do the math on the coin cost, but it has to more than my monthly mortgage payment, or maybe even yearly.......thanks a lot.
    You get what you pay for. Saying the advice is worth less than you paid for it? Players take everything they can for free and then demand more, Kixeye takes everything they can get paid for and then demand more. Flip sides of the same coin?
      
  • Ron Hawkins
    Ron Hawkins
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 432
    labaron26 said:
    Nice builds Mr Robot....Now please tell us how we get this altogether in the 5 or so days before the Raid....I did not do the math on the coin cost, but it has to more than my monthly mortgage payment, or maybe even yearly.......thanks a lot.
    This raid style has been here for 3 months now, plenty of time to build a fleet or 2 that could do the normal campaign for your level. Enough time to build a single fleet that could do the Elite target with some coining.

    The fleets I used for the first one, are going to be useful for this one. Elite might take a bit if I want to do it, but I know that i will be able to handle the siege campaign in 35 to 45 min, for about 6 to 10 coin per 5 targets.
    average build time for me is 63 to 69 days. so at most maybe one fleet could be built. just from the last raid i only have 1 mastodon ship built not a full fleet of them.

    from what in seeing you need 4 fleets to do this kinda raid. of witch i have 2 that may work. but if this is like the last raid they wont work. this is on top of the new dread fleet they added. on top of still needing to adjust my fleet armors for player base to account for the new guns added to the bases, on top of still having to adjust for weekly mission that i finally got 2 fleet to at lest hit 55 base on top of still needing to build a jug fleet that is 20 day per builds for 65 mission base on top of having no coin for ship build. if i out coin in it is for repairs so i can even play the game from the 18 hours repair of one of my fleet when it is killed off by some one who thinks it fun to kill player fleets with subs, 

    so no you are incorrect about having plenty of time to build a fleet for raids in 3 months. when you look at the big picture there is not enough time in the game and it makes the game off balanced. at most if build times are going to stay out of the world high then raids should not be happening but every 6 months, 
    1/2 Repair time is more then enough to keep the game in check!!
    if raids are going to happen every month then fleets should be able to be built in a month!
  • Mack Heath
    Mack Heath
    Potential Threat
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 68
    while i know I have a choice on if I do a raid or not it really aint  a good choice not to do raids because I take a chance on falling behind on ships I need to do better in the game there are many hull I wish I had  but since I can't afford to coin I don't  do as well as those who can and that in itself is a disadvantage  to players  who don't  have the money  to coin a raid a month and still try  to do other things we have to do and build times  can get way to long on some hulls  that is why I wish there was at least  a 6 month gap between raids  don't get  me wrong  I like the weekly missions and just  startin to put some fleets together that might help me get  better hulls and weapons in some campaigns but had to at least  say how I felt  about a raid a month

  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    edited 8 Nov 2014, 11:13PM
    labaron26 said:
    Nice builds Mr Robot....Now please tell us how we get this altogether in the 5 or so days before the Raid....I did not do the math on the coin cost, but it has to more than my monthly mortgage payment, or maybe even yearly.......thanks a lot.
    This raid style has been here for 3 months now, plenty of time to build a fleet or 2 that could do the normal campaign for your level. Enough time to build a single fleet that could do the Elite target with some coining.

    The fleets I used for the first one, are going to be useful for this one. Elite might take a bit if I want to do it, but I know that i will be able to handle the siege campaign in 35 to 45 min, for about 6 to 10 coin per 5 targets.
    average build time for me is 63 to 69 days. so at most maybe one fleet could be built. just from the last raid i only have 1 mastodon ship built not a full fleet of them.

    from what in seeing you need 4 fleets to do this kinda raid. of witch i have 2 that may work. but if this is like the last raid they wont work. this is on top of the new dread fleet they added. on top of still needing to adjust my fleet armors for player base to account for the new guns added to the bases, on top of still having to adjust for weekly mission that i finally got 2 fleet to at lest hit 55 base on top of still needing to build a jug fleet that is 20 day per builds for 65 mission base on top of having no coin for ship build. if i out coin in it is for repairs so i can even play the game from the 18 hours repair of one of my fleet when it is killed off by some one who thinks it fun to kill player fleets with subs, 

    so no you are incorrect about having plenty of time to build a fleet for raids in 3 months. when you look at the big picture there is not enough time in the game and it makes the game off balanced. at most if build times are going to stay out of the world high then raids should not be happening but every 6 months, 
    That is the problem you have, you are trying to build a massive fleet to do the raids with. I can get 1.5 million points, at least, for a dollar spent. Last raid I spent $10 on myself and had 15 million points. I spent another bit to help those in my alliance get the points they were missing so they could get something in T4 or T5. 

    but, I am not taking a fleet into the raid that costs more than 6 coins from complete dead to repair. Each of those 6 coins would net me close to 950,000 pts. Even if I wanted to let them repair for free I am down about 3 hours of waiting. 

    You do not need those massive health fleets to do this with, and if you are spending money you should be looking for ways to cut that expense down. 

    The fleets that Robot posted take no more than 2 weeks to build each ship, the Juggx does take 20 days, but the interdictor hull has been around for what 3 years? It has been in the weekly for what 6 months now? Plenty of time to get that hull and build a fleet of it well before this series of raid started. The juggx would be finishing up right now for this raid if they were intuitive and started it 3 months ago.
  • Wanderer184
    Wanderer184
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 354
    average build time for me is 63 to 69 days. so at most maybe one fleet could be built. just from the last raid i only have 1 mastodon ship built not a full fleet of them.

    from what in seeing you need 4 fleets to do this kinda raid. of witch i have 2 that may work. but if this is like the last raid they wont work. this is on top of the new dread fleet they added. on top of still needing to adjust my fleet armors for player base to account for the new guns added to the bases, on top of still having to adjust for weekly mission that i finally got 2 fleet to at lest hit 55 base on top of still needing to build a jug fleet that is 20 day per builds for 65 mission base on top of having no coin for ship build. if i out coin in it is for repairs so i can even play the game from the 18 hours repair of one of my fleet when it is killed off by some one who thinks it fun to kill player fleets with subs, 

    so no you are incorrect about having plenty of time to build a fleet for raids in 3 months. when you look at the big picture there is not enough time in the game and it makes the game off balanced. at most if build times are going to stay out of the world high then raids should not be happening but every 6 months, 

    The sad reality of this game - and this applies to every competitive online game I've played - is that if you're unable to coin, you will NEVER be able to compete on an equal level to those players who do. The game isn't going to stop and wait for you to catch up. But having said that, 60 days to build a fleet is outrageous - the build times need to come down.

    In the meantime, free players have to be a lot more selective with their builds - decide how many fleets you actually NEED and focus on building them well. 


  • bort
    bort
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 8,257
    given the raid is the same style as last time, all the tips from last time are probably pretty much valid - so i'd recommend reading them - guide and strategy section of the forums. I know I will be revisiting them before the raid starts.

    there's been several months of build time for the same style of raid, and you can generally adapt with what you have after the first major change in the raid, let alone the 3rd or 4th iteration of it.
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    edited 8 Nov 2014, 11:26PM
    I do not do this often to those outside my alliance. But, here is a simple Mercury fleet that anyone playing the game since the Campaigns came out and at least level 55. It is using mostly gear from the campaigns, weekly, cargos, research.

    http://www.dahippo.com/bp/ship/#!704C50U0U0U0C5B1V1A4P4P4P4P4P04C50U0U0U0C5B1V1A4P4P4P4P4P04C50U0U0U0C5B1V1A4P4P4P4P4P04C50U0U0U0C5B1V1A4P4P4P4P4P04C50U0U0U0C5B1V1A4P4P4P4P4PdA

    Will cost you about 5 coins to repair during the raid, should net you right around 500,000 to 800,000 pts per death once you get the rank up some. It will take down the fleets in the campaign no problem. If you have D92-F you can substitute 2 D92-F for 2 D92-U and swap a D92-U for a Phalanx 2 and get better protection, armor, and better killing power.

    I have used that fleet above for the last 8 months, and it will do more than just the raids. I have better armor on it now (D3-E) and I have 2 D92-F and 2D92-U with 2x Phalanx 2. But, it does not change the fact that it will do the job in the raid for much cheaper than what some here have said they want to use.

    oh and it takes less than a month to build it without an Officer for the shipyard, about 24 days if you have an officer.

  • Xcalubur
    Xcalubur
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 1,655
    I have a great tip for myself: Let it pass and enjoy a very nice autumn weekend without any greed and frustration around. That is the best fun to do, and cheap !

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