IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT OPPONANTS/ENEMIES ARE DOING, FARMING, SPAMMING, TAKING YOUR RES ATTAKING YOUR CARGO, 'HIT THE RELOCATE BUTTON'! THE PROBLEM IS THEN RESOLVED.
But then again, i have noticed that kixeye only pay attention to Beta's Devs Mods and the highest bidders, and is solowly going the way of hundreds of other failed online games and turning it into a Nanny Culture for those with the intelect and complaints of 8 year olds.
one word 'RELOCATE' you should look up its meaning,,, that is one of the resons kix implemented it a few month back and you can relocate when damaged and bubbled..
In the example I gave, it would not be possible for that player to relocate - when you constantly get attacked, you cannot relocate. So please, answer my question.
what happens when your base is attacked and destroyed? self answering there.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT OPPONANTS/ENEMIES ARE DOING, FARMING, SPAMMING, TAKING YOUR RES ATTAKING YOUR CARGO, 'HIT THE RELOCATE BUTTON'! THE PROBLEM IS THEN RESOLVED.
But then again, i have noticed that kixeye only pay attention to Beta's Devs Mods and the highest bidders, and is solowly going the way of hundreds of other failed online games and turning it into a Nanny Culture for those with the intelect and complaints of 8 year olds.
You aren't getting this mate. In the example I gave, you CANNOT relocate - if the attackers are persistent and engage your base continuously, continuously hold it, around the clock, 24 hours a day, you CANNOT relocate. You would not be able to do anything. That is how the current game mechanics CAN be exploited. To make this crystal clear to you, RELOCATION is NOT and option, because you physically would not have the time to click that relocate button, just like you CANNOT click repair after a hit if the attacker hits quickly after a first hit. So, now that I have cleared that up for you, just answer my original question to you.
So the CRY BABIES will now reign supreme in Vega Conflict. What happened to this Game? It use to be a bunch of people who enjoyed fighting and large scale war. Now, Its gonna be about Cry Babies complaining that they aren't good enough to fight little fleets or that its unfair that when their base go hit the attacker didn't attack their CMs and only hit their labs and bridge... SUCKS TO BE YOU! I think it's a "Game Exploit" that Mods and Devs are choosing the Betas side in every fight they have. But hey, if I was a Beta and had those contacts, Id do it too
You sound like the type of person KIXEYE is trying to stop. You think spamming is okay? Then you must think that hacking gold is okay too. Both are the same concept of cheating, only one is more severe than the other. I am a moderator, and I defend who is right, whether that be a beta player, a moderator, or a brand new player. This whole perspective that you have is very sad. "CRY BABIES will now reign supreme in VEGA Conflict". Really? It makes you a cry baby for complaining about someone exploiting a game mechanic? Well by that logic, anyone who's ever complained about being being hacked is a cry baby as well. "It use to be a bunch of people who enjoyed fighting and large scale war." I still enjoy fighting, and I've my fair share of large scale war, but that has nothing to do with an exploited game mechanic other then spamming the opposing side in the war, which is what KIXEYE is trying to stop, so instead of you bashing their actions how about you look at the way it's affecting you first. If you answer "I can't spam anymore" then get off of VEGA Conflict because we do not want your kind here. Either play legit or don't play at all, end of story.
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Hitting a base with a Venom fleet, and then turning and running is also spam, and quite frankly harassment just the same. So explain to me how members of the ISA clan (DOG) that just moved into 2600 can get away with this tactic. They should be banned just like any other recent spam/harassment bans.
Hitting a base with a Venom fleet, and then turning and running is also spam, and quite frankly harassment just the same. So explain to me how members of the ISA clan (DOG) that just moved into 2600 can get away with this tactic. They should be banned just like any other recent spam/harassment bans.
Please take a picture of the incident and refer it to support via support ticket. The more tickets are sent with proof of spam, the more ban hammers that will be dropped.
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right. if a base was attacked 24/7 and held would not and will not happen in reality because it would soon become tiresome and boring, you know this as well as everyone else who plays the game.
but by 'your' logic. i can name a few members of ICU who came close to this all because of 'your' medal event. for 2 days straight hammering and then holding a members base for the entire weekend so they didnt get any more medals. vice versa to the spamming, that member at the start of the onslaught kept launching a single ship preventing anyone from getting in the base, impeading there intention of hitting the base, spamming the hitters.
its more of a, 'do what i say, not what i do' mentality.
and back to the point about real life war... a dodgy thirdworld dictator with some handheld weapons in Iraq/Iran managed to keep back the US and british army for a fair few years. perfect example of a person going up against a tank. however we are talking about ships. not people, ships that can be caught and destroyed by supperior ship, BUT, many players, myself included can take out said supirior ships with a simple Harrier.
Make your minds up and as Chris Said, Stop listening to the cry babies who, in most cases are the resaon for the retalitions 'after' they used the same tactics they complain about. we dont wine, or winge or cry. we (the better minded and more intelectual and friendly clans) get on with it.
Hey peeps, if you have an issue with someone spamming your base or fleets PLEASE take a picture and send in a support ticket. Reporting players for spamming with proof of the infraction is the only way to have the situation dealt with (or if a KIXEYE employee sees it first hand).
the problem isnt spamming, its kixeye making it an issue in a 'WAR' game because some players feel its unfair and complain. when in reality. everyone has the ability to spam, and everyone has the ability to relocate if they dont like being spammed. it is that simple. sticking to bases being spammed, what about bases that get farmed on a daily bases. i have a few i hit just for the res and hit labs and bays to stop retaliation. as soon as the bubble goes down, i hit it again in the exact same fashion. now that player has to wait for repairs, in base op's are delayed, resorses are depleted and so on. this could be viewd as spam from the opponants point of view as im making it very difficult for tha player to progress... yet just abouts all of them just simply relocated and got on with it. its happned to me on a number of occations as i was leveling up, i relocated and the problem was resolved. yet i have a funny feeling if this nanny culture of yours continues we will be restricted from hitting any bases more than once.
FYI if you insist on changing the rules/guidlines/whatever, it may be wise to let 'AALLLL' the players know via mass email. not just the ones that read comms or come to the forums.
It is a game exploit, therefore it is a form of cheating and will get you banned.
Wow guys for people who make their money making war games you don't have a clue about actual war tactics do you. So I guess we're not allowed to use the actual strategies that real generals would use to fight our battles.
And it's not like the guys complaining don't do things like this themselves. I remember when DoGs came to 2300 got onto the planet I was on, parked two of there guys bases right next to mine and hit me for three days, took all my res and left me depleted and all I could do was let it happen. I didn't go in coms and cry. I didn't run to Kixeye and ****. I relocated, rezzed back up and counted that battle as a loss. It's a freaking game and Siegeing someone's base IS NOT A GAME EXPLOIT... It's a tactic of war. Resource denial and if your Beta players can't handle it maybe Wargames aren't for them. Maybe they should go play Tome
siege
sēj/
noun
1.
a military operation in which enemy forces surround a town or building, cutting off essential supplies, with the aim of compelling the surrender of those inside.
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Hey peeps, if you have an issue with someone spamming your base or fleets PLEASE take a picture and send in a support ticket. Reporting players for spamming with proof of the infraction is the only way to have the situation dealt with (or if a KIXEYE employee sees it first hand).
the problem isnt spamming, its kixeye making it an issue in a 'WAR' game because some players feel its unfair and complain. when in reality. everyone has the ability to spam, and everyone has the ability to relocate if they dont like being spammed. it is that simple. sticking to bases being spammed, what about bases that get farmed on a daily bases. i have a few i hit just for the res and hit labs and bays to stop retaliation. as soon as the bubble goes down, i hit it again in the exact same fashion. now that player has to wait for repairs, in base op's are delayed, resorses are depleted and so on. this could be viewd as spam from the opponants point of view as im making it very difficult for tha player to progress... yet just abouts all of them just simply relocated and got on with it. its happned to me on a number of occations as i was leveling up, i relocated and the problem was resolved. yet i have a funny feeling if this nanny culture of yours continues we will be restricted from hitting any bases more than once.
FYI if you insist on changing the rules/guidlines/whatever, it may be wise to let 'AALLLL' the players know via mass email. not just the ones that read comms or come to the forums.
It is a game exploit, therefore it is a form of cheating and will get you banned.
Wow guys for people who make their money making war games you don't have a clue about actual war tactics do you. So I guess we're not allowed to use the actual strategies that real generals would use to fight our battles.
And it's not like the guys complaining don't do things like this themselves. I remember when DoGs came to 2300 got onto the planet I was on, parked two of there guys bases right next to mine and hit me for three days, took all my res and left me depleted and all I could do was let it happen. I didn't go in coms and cry. I didn't run to Kixeye and ****. I relocated, rezzed back up and counted that battle as a loss. It's a freaking game and Siegeing someone's base IS NOT A GAME EXPLOIT... It's a tactic of war. Resource denial and if your Beta players can't handle it maybe Wargames aren't for them. Maybe they should go play Tome
siege
sēj/
noun
1.
a military operation in which enemy forces surround a town or building, cutting off essential supplies, with the aim of compelling the surrender of those inside.
This conversation is not about SIEGE it's about SPAMMING. Read the topic before you reply.
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Spamming seems to be exactly the same as a siege according to your logic. stop being pedantic.
Spamming is a game exploit that will get you banned if you use it and it's reported. Siege does not carry a negative connotation nor is it used to describe the constant hold up of bases and fleets. That's what this conversation is about.
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Cliff they can claim one the other player can claim the other. In a seige you don't attack. It's a non violent way to keep an enemy fortress from getting it's supplies it's been used in many battles both real and biblical (The battle of Jerhico a famous biblical Siege) So how do you prove someone isn't just working a Siege on a member of an enemy clan. It's all up to you guys and your judgement and it seems that the judgement always seems to fall on the side of the guy with the lower ID number.
There's another old saying, All's fair in Love and war. I let things that others on this game do to me slide all the time because I'm here to play a wargame. I'm not here to go around the game mechanics and get people banned because I can't bet them and my reputation as a Bad **** on Vega Conflict is on the line. Then again I act my age, and not that of a petulant child who thinks he's owed something cause he pays for the game or doesn't like the way it's played by other. I use the mechanics YOUR Company put in there to play the game to the best of my ability, and to think that if someone gets a wild hair up their **** because my Glad Venoms beat his Nighthawks and he'll just go to someone who's supposed to be "FAIR" and "IMPARTIAL" and get him banned. Well it just doesn't sit right and it only seems to happen when one group of players goes into a Sector. We've been playing our way in 2600 since two weeks after the server merge and most of the clans that come through deal with it like Adults. They win some, they lose some. I win some I lose some. It's the game. There's no way I'm ever going to be "Best in Vega Conflict" Because that title really doesn't do much for me. It doesn't put food on my table. It doesn't pay my power bills. I come here to get away from stress, not to watch children who can't handle their problems cry because they aren't WINNING.
And that's what the whole situation boils down to. You can try and spin it another way but most every casual player on here knows the truth.
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This is becoming a bit of a **** joke, KX's usual bias showing bigtime with a certain alliance yet again when they start crying when things dont go ther way
Cliff they can claim one the other player can claim the other. In a seige you don't attack. It's a non violent way to keep an enemy fortress from getting it's supplies it's been used in many battles both real and biblical (The battle of Jerhico a famous biblical Siege) So how do you prove someone isn't just working a Siege on a member of an enemy clan. It's all up to you guys and your judgement and it seems that the judgement always seems to fall on the side of the guy with the lower ID number.
There's another old saying, All's fair in Love and war. I let things that others on this game do to me slide all the time because I'm here to play a wargame. I'm not here to go around the game mechanics and get people banned because I can't bet them and my reputation as a Bad **** on Vega Conflict is on the line. Then again I act my age, and not that of a petulant child who thinks he's owed something cause he pays for the game or doesn't like the way it's played by other. I use the mechanics YOUR Company put in there to play the game to the best of my ability, and to think that if someone gets a wild hair up their **** because my Glad Venoms beat his Nighthawks and he'll just go to someone who's supposed to be "FAIR" and "IMPARTIAL" and get him banned. Well it just doesn't sit right and it only seems to happen when one group of players goes into a Sector. We've been playing our way in 2600 since two weeks after the server merge and most of the clans that come through deal with it like Adults. They win some, they lose some. I win some I lose some. It's the game. There's no way I'm ever going to be "Best in Vega Conflict" Because that title really doesn't do much for me. It doesn't put food on my table. It doesn't pay my power bills. I come here to get away from stress, not to watch children who can't handle their problems cry because they aren't WINNING.
And that's what the whole situation boils down to. You can try and spin it another way but most every casual player on here knows the truth.
I don't really care if you play the game casually or hardcore. It is an exploit to spam and is against the rules. And whoa there, I don't work for KIXEYE. Moderators are players who volunteer to help keep the forums clean. You can play any way you like, but if you violate the rules of the game or use an exploit in the game then expect to get into trouble one way or another. If you're fine with being spammed then you don't have to report it, once again, play the way you want to.
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It also seems the Cliff doesn't read the whole post as I posted the definition of Siege and he says that's not what they are doing.
If I send one harrier into a base to keep someone from farming and getting resources it would be a Siege. Of course that player who doesn't like it would call it Spam.
Now having documented proof in chat that someone is putting you in a Siege just to be a **** is a different story but seeing as I was on and am in the sector this happened and this one player wasn't doing that, but protecting the sector from ISA's the ban is a joke. But hey this is how Kixeye treats the cannon fodder around here cause we don't spend any money.
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DFA - I think youl find the reason they are crying spam and having people banned is because they are not winning, i can post a dozen screenshots of 100%'s on the people(s) in question including the leader / chief coiner-apoc spammer
This certinly is not down to lack of equal firepower/skils
It also seems the Cliff doesn't read the whole post as I posted the definition of Siege and he says that's not what they are doing.
If I send one harrier into a base to keep someone from farming and getting resources it would be a Siege. Of course that player who doesn't like it would call it Spam.
Now having documented proof in chat that someone is putting you in a Siege just to be a **** is a different story but seeing as I was on and am in the sector this happened and this one player wasn't doing that, but protecting the sector from ISA's the ban is a joke. But hey this is how Kixeye treats the cannon fodder around here cause we don't spend any money.
a military operation in which enemy forces surround a town or building, cutting off essential supplies, with the aim of compelling the surrender of those inside.
And from some of the Siege's iv seen they can last a VERY long time and is a tactic of war (you are advertising this game as a war game on FB)
and this is how i see spamming from what i have read from you
Spamming, sending in fleets of ships and surrounding the enemy preventing them from batteling. (fvf or base) cutting them off from Res and restring base op's unless they relocate aka surrender.
Seems very much the same to me.
The only time i EVER see thes, and ask everyone else who isnt a kix lapdag, is when there is a mass battle involving many many fleets, sometimes upwords of 100. and when it is just the one person, because of the unwritten sector rule of non incestor hits, this very rarly happens or successfull.
Death I don't make words up. If you new anything about war other than point and click games you'd know what a siege was. OH WAIT I POSTED A DEFINITION.
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It also seems the Cliff doesn't read the whole post as I posted the definition of Siege and he says that's not what they are doing.
If I send one harrier into a base to keep someone from farming and getting resources it would be a Siege. Of course that player who doesn't like it would call it Spam.
Now having documented proof in chat that someone is putting you in a Siege just to be a **** is a different story but seeing as I was on and am in the sector this happened and this one player wasn't doing that, but protecting the sector from ISA's the ban is a joke. But hey this is how Kixeye treats the cannon fodder around here cause we don't spend any money.
I don't spend money either, never have on VEGA. I'm treated just fine (even before I was a moderator before you say that). I did read your post, and hitting a base with a Harrier to prevent the player from getting out and getting resources temporarily, to scout them, or to temporarily hold them up so a bigger player or fleetcan get there is fine, but if you consistently spam their base or fleets with fleets that are not effective for the sake of being a jerk then that is what we call spamming. Any ship can spam a base, only some ships can spam fleets (effectively at least).
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Death I don't make words up. If you new anything about war other than point and click games you'd know what a siege was. OH WAIT I POSTED A DEFINITION.
Im not saying that sending 100s of apoc fleets into a base to kill it is spamming its just that the base is too tough for the attacker per se.
But sending hundreds of harriers or other low class ships to hit a base knowing that wont work just to bug the host or just holding the base of the player with no intention of attacking now that aint cool.
Now if u hav any so called "evidence" proving that u guys havnt done what was clearly stated above post it here.
You're not getting it are you. Or you are being purposfully obtuse. The player claiming to be spammed has the burden of proof. If I'm hitting a guy with one ship to keep him from farming because I'm at war with his clan then "I'M NOT DOING IT JUST TO ANNOY HIM" there's a purpose cause my clan and his clan are at war. I'm removing a combatant from battle. I'm denying my enemy an asset. It's a tactic EVERY REAL LIFE MILITARY USES. To say on a war game that it's a game exploit when the game is set up for battles, base hitting and combat is dishonest. Then again what do I know I'm a forty year old male who's played these games a lot longer than some of the kids on here. I'm sorry I know more about war than them.
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I don't really care if you play the game casually or hardcore. It is an exploit to spam and is against the rules. And whoa there, I don't work for KIXEYE. Moderators are players who volunteer to help keep the forums clean. You can play any way you like, but if you violate the rules of the game or use an exploit in the game then expect to get into trouble one way or another. If you're fine with being spammed then you don't have to report it, once again, play the way you want to.
So its against the rules to use as many ships as you want against a enemy and coin as much as you like????? Its no wonder your not a kixeye employee telling people its against the rules to coin your fleets and keep attacking.
It also seems the Cliff doesn't read the whole post as I posted the definition of Siege and he says that's not what they are doing.
If I send one harrier into a base to keep someone from farming and getting resources it would be a Siege. Of course that player who doesn't like it would call it Spam.
Now having documented proof in chat that someone is putting you in a Siege just to be a **** is a different story but seeing as I was on and am in the sector this happened and this one player wasn't doing that, but protecting the sector from ISA's the ban is a joke. But hey this is how Kixeye treats the cannon fodder around here cause we don't spend any money.
I don't spend money either, never have on VEGA. I'm treated just fine (even before I was a moderator before you say that). I did read your post, and hitting a base with a Harrier to prevent the player from getting out and getting resources temporarily, to scout them, or to temporarily hold them up so a bigger player or fleetcan get there is fine, but if you consistently spam their base or fleets with fleets that are not effective for the sake of being a jerk then that is what we call spamming. Any ship can spam a base, only some ships can spam fleets (effectively at least).
So What i said has merit and allowed? i can hold a base, keeping the high lvler in there while the rest are taken down? i am waiting for a bigger fleet to get there.... it may take em a fair few hours but they are on there way?
But no. everyone has the ability to do the same, if you prevent it it causes even bigger arguments?
and if that is the case why have certan players had there harriers removed unable to rebuild? when they were doing exactly what you just described? my partner Deeviras for example who is sat at the other computer in the same room as me?
this is turning hipocritical and stupid concidering EVERYONE can do the same thing, including the Lap DOG's who do, and have used this said tactic on a number of occations.
You're not getting it are you. Or you are being purposfully obtuse. The player claiming to be spammed has the burden of proof. If I'm hitting a guy with one ship to keep him from farming because I'm at war with his clan then "I'M NOT DOING IT JUST TO ANNOY HIM" there's a purpose cause my clan and his clan are at war. I'm removing a combatant from battle. I'm denying my enemy an asset. It's a tactic EVERY REAL LIFE MILITARY USES. To say on a war game that it's a game exploit when the game is set up for battles, base hitting and combat is dishonest. Then again what do I know I'm a forty year old male who's played these games a lot longer than some of the kids on here. I'm sorry I know more about war than them.
And i though war was about fighting.
And this aint real life combat.
Whats the point of war if u dont fight.
Just because u got out a word from a dictionary doesnt mean it can be applied everywhere.
And the so called tactic if used on large scale will only make trouble for u in the end.
You're not getting it are you. Or you are being purposfully obtuse. The player claiming to be spammed has the burden of proof. If I'm hitting a guy with one ship to keep him from farming because I'm at war with his clan then "I'M NOT DOING IT JUST TO ANNOY HIM" there's a purpose cause my clan and his clan are at war. I'm removing a combatant from battle. I'm denying my enemy an asset. It's a tactic EVERY REAL LIFE MILITARY USES. To say on a war game that it's a game exploit when the game is set up for battles, base hitting and combat is dishonest. Then again what do I know I'm a forty year old male who's played these games a lot longer than some of the kids on here. I'm sorry I know more about war than them.
You can know everything you want about war, war is not developed by KIXEYE now is it? KIXEYE develops VEGA Conflict, therefore they make the rules of war, so whether it's a real world tactic or not KIXEYE dictates how the game runs. If a game exploit is spamming and is against the rules, you can get banned. If building a Fury or hitting a cargo were against the rules, you would get banned.
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Sigh. It's like talking to a brick wall. I'm done. I've said my piece. At the moment I just basically stay in my base and work on tech anyway, so it's not really an concern to me, I'm just trying to remind people that A Siege is a usable war tactic, and the point of a war is to get your enemy to admit defeat. Doing that here would be a Pyrrhic Victory as I'd sacrifice more of my wits than actually get anything accomplished so it's no longer worth it.
Death flies on the wings of the Blackbird of Hell.
i will say this one more time so it sinks in....
IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT OPPONANTS/ENEMIES ARE DOING, FARMING, SPAMMING, TAKING YOUR RES ATTAKING YOUR CARGO, 'HIT THE RELOCATE BUTTON'! THE PROBLEM IS THEN RESOLVED.
But then again, i have noticed that kixeye only pay attention to Beta's Devs Mods and the highest bidders, and is solowly going the way of hundreds of other failed online games and turning it into a Nanny Culture for those with the intelect and complaints of 8 year olds.
what happens when your base is attacked and destroyed? self answering there.
You aren't getting this mate. In the example I gave, you CANNOT relocate - if the attackers are persistent and engage your base continuously, continuously hold it, around the clock, 24 hours a day, you CANNOT relocate. You would not be able to do anything. That is how the current game mechanics CAN be exploited. To make this crystal clear to you, RELOCATION is NOT and option, because you physically would not have the time to click that relocate button, just like you CANNOT click repair after a hit if the attacker hits quickly after a first hit. So, now that I have cleared that up for you, just answer my original question to you.
There is really only one kind of SPAM!!! Made with BACON.
You sound like the type of person KIXEYE is trying to stop. You think spamming is okay? Then you must think that hacking gold is okay too. Both are the same concept of cheating, only one is more severe than the other. I am a moderator, and I defend who is right, whether that be a beta player, a moderator, or a brand new player. This whole perspective that you have is very sad. "CRY BABIES will now reign supreme in VEGA Conflict". Really? It makes you a cry baby for complaining about someone exploiting a game mechanic? Well by that logic, anyone who's ever complained about being being hacked is a cry baby as well. "It use to be a bunch of people who enjoyed fighting and large scale war." I still enjoy fighting, and I've my fair share of large scale war, but that has nothing to do with an exploited game mechanic other then spamming the opposing side in the war, which is what KIXEYE is trying to stop, so instead of you bashing their actions how about you look at the way it's affecting you first. If you answer "I can't spam anymore" then get off of VEGA Conflict because we do not want your kind here. Either play legit or don't play at all, end of story.
Hitting a base with a Venom fleet, and then turning and running is also spam, and quite frankly harassment just the same. So explain to me how members of the ISA clan (DOG) that just moved into 2600 can get away with this tactic. They should be banned just like any other recent spam/harassment bans.
Please take a picture of the incident and refer it to support via support ticket. The more tickets are sent with proof of spam, the more ban hammers that will be dropped.
right. if a base was attacked 24/7 and held would not and will not happen in reality because it would soon become tiresome and boring, you know this as well as everyone else who plays the game.
but by 'your' logic. i can name a few members of ICU who came close to this all because of 'your' medal event.
for 2 days straight hammering and then holding a members base for the entire weekend so they didnt get any more medals.
vice versa to the spamming, that member at the start of the onslaught kept launching a single ship preventing anyone from getting in the base, impeading there intention of hitting the base, spamming the hitters.
its more of a, 'do what i say, not what i do' mentality.
and back to the point about real life war... a dodgy thirdworld dictator with some handheld weapons in Iraq/Iran managed to keep back the US and british army for a fair few years. perfect example of a person going up against a tank. however we are talking about ships. not people, ships that can be caught and destroyed by supperior ship, BUT, many players, myself included can take out said supirior ships with a simple Harrier.
Make your minds up and as Chris Said, Stop listening to the cry babies who, in most cases are the resaon for the retalitions 'after' they used the same tactics they complain about. we dont wine, or winge or cry. we (the better minded and more intelectual and friendly clans) get on with it.
Wow guys for people who make their money making war games you don't have a clue about actual war tactics do you. So I guess we're not allowed to use the actual strategies that real generals would use to fight our battles.
And it's not like the guys complaining don't do things like this themselves. I remember when DoGs came to 2300 got onto the planet I was on, parked two of there guys bases right next to mine and hit me for three days, took all my res and left me depleted and all I could do was let it happen. I didn't go in coms and cry. I didn't run to Kixeye and ****. I relocated, rezzed back up and counted that battle as a loss. It's a freaking game and Siegeing someone's base IS NOT A GAME EXPLOIT... It's a tactic of war. Resource denial and if your Beta players can't handle it maybe Wargames aren't for them. Maybe they should go play Tome
a military operation in which enemy forces surround a town or building, cutting off essential supplies, with the aim of compelling the surrender of those inside.
This conversation is not about SIEGE it's about SPAMMING. Read the topic before you reply.
Spamming is a game exploit that will get you banned if you use it and it's reported. Siege does not carry a negative connotation nor is it used to describe the constant hold up of bases and fleets. That's what this conversation is about.
Cliff they can claim one the other player can claim the other. In a seige you don't attack. It's a non violent way to keep an enemy fortress from getting it's supplies it's been used in many battles both real and biblical (The battle of Jerhico a famous biblical Siege) So how do you prove someone isn't just working a Siege on a member of an enemy clan. It's all up to you guys and your judgement and it seems that the judgement always seems to fall on the side of the guy with the lower ID number.
There's another old saying, All's fair in Love and war. I let things that others on this game do to me slide all the time because I'm here to play a wargame. I'm not here to go around the game mechanics and get people banned because I can't bet them and my reputation as a Bad **** on Vega Conflict is on the line. Then again I act my age, and not that of a petulant child who thinks he's owed something cause he pays for the game or doesn't like the way it's played by other. I use the mechanics YOUR Company put in there to play the game to the best of my ability, and to think that if someone gets a wild hair up their **** because my Glad Venoms beat his Nighthawks and he'll just go to someone who's supposed to be "FAIR" and "IMPARTIAL" and get him banned. Well it just doesn't sit right and it only seems to happen when one group of players goes into a Sector. We've been playing our way in 2600 since two weeks after the server merge and most of the clans that come through deal with it like Adults. They win some, they lose some. I win some I lose some. It's the game. There's no way I'm ever going to be "Best in Vega Conflict" Because that title really doesn't do much for me. It doesn't put food on my table. It doesn't pay my power bills. I come here to get away from stress, not to watch children who can't handle their problems cry because they aren't WINNING.
And that's what the whole situation boils down to. You can try and spin it another way but most every casual player on here knows the truth.
This is becoming a bit of a **** joke, KX's usual bias showing bigtime with a certain alliance yet again when they start crying when things dont go ther way
Spammers spammers everywhere shame on u all cuz u cant do a base right. suckzzzzzzzzz. ,,||//,(-_-),||//,,
I don't really care if you play the game casually or hardcore. It is an exploit to spam and is against the rules. And whoa there, I don't work for KIXEYE. Moderators are players who volunteer to help keep the forums clean. You can play any way you like, but if you violate the rules of the game or use an exploit in the game then expect to get into trouble one way or another. If you're fine with being spammed then you don't have to report it, once again, play the way you want to.
It also seems the Cliff doesn't read the whole post as I posted the definition of Siege and he says that's not what they are doing.
If I send one harrier into a base to keep someone from farming and getting resources it would be a Siege. Of course that player who doesn't like it would call it Spam.
Now having documented proof in chat that someone is putting you in a Siege just to be a **** is a different story but seeing as I was on and am in the sector this happened and this one player wasn't doing that, but protecting the sector from ISA's the ban is a joke. But hey this is how Kixeye treats the cannon fodder around here cause we don't spend any money.
DFA - I think youl find the reason they are crying spam and having people banned is because they are not winning, i can post a dozen screenshots of 100%'s on the people(s) in question including the leader / chief coiner-apoc spammer
This certinly is not down to lack of equal firepower/skils
u guys make these words up on the way huh.
iege
a military operation in which enemy forces surround a town or building, cutting off essential supplies, with the aim of compelling the surrender of those inside.
Death I don't make words up. If you new anything about war other than point and click games you'd know what a siege was. OH WAIT I POSTED A DEFINITION.
I don't spend money either, never have on VEGA. I'm treated just fine (even before I was a moderator before you say that). I did read your post, and hitting a base with a Harrier to prevent the player from getting out and getting resources temporarily, to scout them, or to temporarily hold them up so a bigger player or fleetcan get there is fine, but if you consistently spam their base or fleets with fleets that are not effective for the sake of being a jerk then that is what we call spamming. Any ship can spam a base, only some ships can spam fleets (effectively at least).
Im not saying that sending 100s of apoc fleets into a base to kill it is spamming its just that the base is too tough for the attacker per se.
But sending hundreds of harriers or other low class ships to hit a base knowing that wont work just to bug the host or just holding the base of the player with no intention of attacking now that aint cool.
Now if u hav any so called "evidence" proving that u guys havnt done what was clearly stated above post it here.
And i also learnt english in school.
You're not getting it are you. Or you are being purposfully obtuse. The player claiming to be spammed has the burden of proof. If I'm hitting a guy with one ship to keep him from farming because I'm at war with his clan then "I'M NOT DOING IT JUST TO ANNOY HIM" there's a purpose cause my clan and his clan are at war. I'm removing a combatant from battle. I'm denying my enemy an asset. It's a tactic EVERY REAL LIFE MILITARY USES. To say on a war game that it's a game exploit when the game is set up for battles, base hitting and combat is dishonest. Then again what do I know I'm a forty year old male who's played these games a lot longer than some of the kids on here. I'm sorry I know more about war than them.
So Cliffsam98 Moderator
So What i said has merit and allowed? i can hold a base, keeping the high lvler in there while the rest are taken down? i am waiting for a bigger fleet to get there.... it may take em a fair few hours but they are on there way?
But no. everyone has the ability to do the same, if you prevent it it causes even bigger arguments?
and if that is the case why have certan players had there harriers removed unable to rebuild? when they were doing exactly what you just described?
my partner Deeviras for example who is sat at the other computer in the same room as me?
this is turning hipocritical and stupid concidering EVERYONE can do the same thing, including the Lap DOG's who do, and have used this said tactic on a number of occations.
And i though war was about fighting.
And this aint real life combat.
Whats the point of war if u dont fight.
Just because u got out a word from a dictionary doesnt mean it can be applied everywhere.
And the so called tactic if used on large scale will only make trouble for u in the end.
You can know everything you want about war, war is not developed by KIXEYE now is it? KIXEYE develops VEGA Conflict, therefore they make the rules of war, so whether it's a real world tactic or not KIXEYE dictates how the game runs. If a game exploit is spamming and is against the rules, you can get banned. If building a Fury or hitting a cargo were against the rules, you would get banned.
Let me clear this up
Yea i just said it
Sigh. It's like talking to a brick wall. I'm done. I've said my piece. At the moment I just basically stay in my base and work on tech anyway, so it's not really an concern to me, I'm just trying to remind people that A Siege is a usable war tactic, and the point of a war is to get your enemy to admit defeat. Doing that here would be a Pyrrhic Victory as I'd sacrifice more of my wits than actually get anything accomplished so it's no longer worth it.