Base design parameters and Medals (merged thread)

  • Barabbas
    Barabbas
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Mar 2011 Posts: 841
    I think this is bull, My op is within 4 walls from the water. I know because it does get hit just not by everyone. Thats why i have a square base. Kixeye you guys are retarded. your business will fail soon and i hope all of you end up homeless because you have taken a cool game and made it all about money

    I've had a square base since they came up with the team points. Never lost an OP yet. A little splash damage, but so far no winners.
    and you are one of the reasons the medal system was brought out, thanks to all you square noobs we can now get very easy medals from you.

    please keep it square, i will be bookmarking all square bases and hitting them 24/7
    Barabbas 
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  • global 1
    global 1
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 95
    skydiver said:
    The bottom line is people who wanted to play the game their way, are now being forced to play kixeye's and higher level players way. I see it all the time n here, crying over square bases and the way certain players play, it's their game let them play it how they want. The player base should be upset about being forced to play a way dictated by kixeye, i remember all the issues people had over the arbiter and other thing placed in by kixeye, but nothing is done about it. I also remember the 1 week no play by a large group of players that got the res changed from all elite to half and half, i think its about time to let kixeye know we want this crap metal issue removed with a no play until removed time.
    Players can still have a square base if they wish, I dont see what the problem is, if there worried about giving aliance points away then dont join an alliance. Since the feature came out you had to kill the OP for points, so up to now these noob cubes have been cheating the system that was intended for alliance feature. 
    Cheating . Cloning fleets is cheating using a square base is STRATEGY at the cost of their DOCKS (and 4 hours of repairs)
    Can u not read properly? When the alliance feature came out it was designed so you get points for killing the OP, now when a player wants to be a part of the alliance system but then designs a noob cube they are cheating/Exploiting the feature. At the end of the day you can still have your noob cubes just means that you OP is no longer safe which, as hitting a persons OP is the main objective, seems like a fix to those that were too lazy to build a proper base and cheated the intended system for alliance points
  • Toy Jun Kie
    Toy Jun Kie
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 1,259
    skydiver said:
    The bottom line is people who wanted to play the game their way, are now being forced to play kixeye's and higher level players way. I see it all the time n here, crying over square bases and the way certain players play, it's their game let them play it how they want. The player base should be upset about being forced to play a way dictated by kixeye, i remember all the issues people had over the arbiter and other thing placed in by kixeye, but nothing is done about it. I also remember the 1 week no play by a large group of players that got the res changed from all elite to half and half, i think its about time to let kixeye know we want this crap metal issue removed with a no play until removed time.
    Players can still have a square base if they wish, I dont see what the problem is, if there worried about giving aliance points away then dont join an alliance. Since the feature came out you had to kill the OP for points, so up to now these noob cubes have been cheating the system that was intended for alliance feature. 
    Cheating . Cloning fleets is cheating using a square base is STRATEGY at the cost of their DOCKS (and 4 hours of repairs)
    Can u not read properly? When the alliance feature came out it was designed so you get points for killing the OP, now when a player wants to be a part of the alliance system but then designs a noob cube they are cheating/Exploiting the feature. At the end of the day you can still have your noob cubes just means that you OP is no longer safe which, as hitting a persons OP is the main objective, seems like a fix to those that were too lazy to build a proper base and cheated the intended system for alliance points
    Can you not UNDERSTAND that it was a STRATEGY at the cost of them actually PLAYING due to their DOCK BEING UNPROTECTED . It's BS that all the BOO HOO HOO birds just cause they couldn't kill an op complained to get them to change it . You can't kill person a's OP MOVE THE **** OVER TO PERSON B AND KILL THEIR OP AFTER YOU TAKE OUT PERSON A's DOCK . DON'T F'N WHINE ABOUT PERSON A AND THEIR BASE DESIGN CHOICE PUT ON YOUR BIG BOY PANTS AND BE A PIRATE . But no you wanna be a WUSS AND COMPLAIN. Why not complain about the things that are NEEDED to actually fix the game instead of BS like SQUARE BASES.
  • Tom Schwarz
    Tom Schwarz
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 26
    First off all this new medal system is bullsh!t, first you give us those new morts with a range on them just enough to hit a OP in a square base, and now you start this ****, you take away our freedom on building a base like WE WONT IT, whats next ? telling us how we have to drive our fleet just to get them killed as well? with in a while we have to say "hail kix" now the lower players get even more hit just to get some fcking medals
  • Don Young
    Don Young
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 3
    If you want to make the game fair for lower level players and more fun adjust the amount of range of players bases to 5 above their level to 5 below their level . This will stop the un-sportsman type of playing of a 50 + hitting a 40 .This will make the game more fun for everyone .
  • Don Young
    Don Young
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 3
    edited 30 Aug 2013, 7:54AM
    If you want to make the game more fun for everyone make it like the old days were a player can only attack another player 5 levels above or below them .This way a level 50+ player cannot hit a 40 or a 70+ player cannot hit a 40 .This will make the game more enjoyable for lower level players who don't have the bad **** ships that only a high level player or a heavy coiner can reach during the raids or missions . Buy the way the last mission sucked and everyone that I talked to was in 100% agreement on this .Now with the new rules I personally know of 6 players that have closed their accounts and I'am sure that by next week that number will climb ,think Kixeye before you act , I know it is all about money with you guy's but for us players it is all about having fun .
  • Tom Schwarz
    Tom Schwarz
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 26
    edited 30 Aug 2013, 8:20AM
    LMFAO can you believe this, some post is marked as spam !!! Now they want to take away our right on free speech, way to go kix
  • Lucky Luke
    Lucky Luke
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 8,422
    I think is great that Kix is cracking down on square bases, you want to be in an alliance...put ur big boy pants on and play it!
  • telemarks
    telemarks
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 637
    The change to damage protection that means you only bubble if the attacked does damage that passes a 25%, 50%, 75, 100% threshold I think is just plain wrong.

    Basically it prevents you POPPING your bubble if your base is levelled... as you end up totally locked out of the game.  The scenario runs like this ... 

    - Have fun levelling bases with lots of fleets out  :-)  Win Medals
    - Get levelled back in return .. that attacker does 100% .. fair enough, in bubble, click repair.  Lose 3* medals
    - Get even .. pop bubble, level the attackers base in reply. Win Medals
    - Someone comes to get revenge on your base.  They kill your 98% dead base easily, get the OP and dock  but THEY DON'T kill everything, base now 99%.  Lose 2* medals and NO BUBBLE.

    Now you are stuck ... if you go into your base, repair will start, and you are in an endless cycle of people hitting you with no way out until they stop or do 100%.  And you will lose all your medals.

    You can hit more bases now, so long as you have fleets out, as the OP is dead.  But at some point you need to reload the base and as soon as you do endless cycle will start.

    The new damage protection rules just stopped you playing the game.


    I'm not against the new damage protection rules, but to prevent this lockout cycle, my suggested change is if that 2* medals are won by an attacker, the defender gets a 12 hour bubble.
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  • Lucky Luke
    Lucky Luke
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 8,422
    edited 30 Aug 2013, 8:43AM
    Not quiet right there.

    I haven't attacked a base since the medals thing came about.

    I was attacked by a player allot higher than me. who did not get my OP (he died)..I lost 5 medals.
  • Max Last
    Max Last
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 3,254
    It completely wrecks bubble bandits who pop their bubble to hit someone then have a buddy tap them to re-bubble, so I'm okay with it.  I really like popping my bubble and taunting people into hitting me again, and yeah, this will kind of screw with that since they can keep going till they get the next cut off now, but oh well
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • Knudsen
    Knudsen
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 205
    don't pop bubble at all. buy a long term bubble. till they change it back.
  • vetehinen
    vetehinen
    Master Tactician
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 2,232
    skydiver said:
    The bottom line is people who wanted to play the game their way, are now being forced to play kixeye's and higher level players way. I see it all the time n here, crying over square bases and the way certain players play, it's their game let them play it how they want. The player base should be upset about being forced to play a way dictated by kixeye, i remember all the issues people had over the arbiter and other thing placed in by kixeye, but nothing is done about it. I also remember the 1 week no play by a large group of players that got the res changed from all elite to half and half, i think its about time to let kixeye know we want this crap metal issue removed with a no play until removed time.
    Players can still have a square base if they wish, I dont see what the problem is, if there worried about giving aliance points away then dont join an alliance. Since the feature came out you had to kill the OP for points, so up to now these noob cubes have been cheating the system that was intended for alliance feature. 
    Cheating . Cloning fleets is cheating using a square base is STRATEGY at the cost of their DOCKS (and 4 hours of repairs)
    Can u not read properly? When the alliance feature came out it was designed so you get points for killing the OP, now when a player wants to be a part of the alliance system but then designs a noob cube they are cheating/Exploiting the feature. At the end of the day you can still have your noob cubes just means that you OP is no longer safe which, as hitting a persons OP is the main objective, seems like a fix to those that were too lazy to build a proper base and cheated the intended system for alliance points

    Alliance system was stupid ... an i could say using DNX with mortars is cheating /exploiting feature in this game 

    First load screen on this game had cube base and that was only one we had ... remember that we have what 10-15 land blocks more now than 2 1/2 years ago 

    Try make a base 60 land block ... its a cube 

    If you can build it why not use it ... only illogical thing here is that players that cheat by having 1 or 2 WHs do not need to build 3 one when we that have 3 , 4 or 5 cant go under 3 Whs thats total BS and totally OK with KIXEYE ... and why only heavy coiners can play with 1 or 2 WHs 

    4 land tile rule is c.r.a.p when same time you can have under 3 WHs when 3 is min lvl to other players ... it wont add up 
  • Knudsen
    Knudsen
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 205
    Drax very true and its sad to see game got ruin'd by this medal crap. give us back the alliance point atleast that have a purpose. for alliance most of all. and when not getting any points anymore the the use to keep playing. guess i have wasted 26 month of gaming
  • Drax
    Drax
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    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,755
    Why did Kix force through the change on square bases??? Just caved in to all the whining that's why.


    Bring back the square base i tell you ... bring it back...

    I know how to beat them, I can reach the OP and kill it in one hit and take all the crud from around it. Just because the whiners can't do it does not mean the rest of us can't do it.


    The square base is convenient as it groups everything together in a nice handy package and if you know what you are doing is an easy killllll - first time, every time


    Flippin taken away my easy kills **** it! Now I got to work for a living
    ...
  • joeyfanof88
    joeyfanof88
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    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 140
    Drax said:
    Why did Kix force through the change on square bases??? Just caved in to all the whining that's why.


    Bring back the square base i tell you ... bring it back...

    I know how to beat them, I can reach the OP and kill it in one hit and take all the crud from around it. Just because the whiners can't do it does not mean the rest of us can't do it.


    The square base is convenient as it groups everything together in a nice handy package and if you know what you are doing is an easy killllll - first time, every time


    Flippin taken away my easy kills **** it! Now I got to work for a living
    Because kixeye's golden coiners cant reach them. Kixeye only listens to its rich shareholders.....So now, we have to play the game how THEY want us to play instead of us free thinking and playing our way. I swear that the Obama Administration runs kixeye now.
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  • DazzXP
    DazzXP
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    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 3,656
    Medals are meaningless, who cares, also if your base is badly damaged they could 100% your base but infact only inflict 10% damage depending on how much health your structures have. so no poping your bubble early will not give them medals.
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  • Toy Jun Kie
    Toy Jun Kie
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 1,259
    vetehinen said:
    Alliance system was stupid ... an i could say using DNX with mortars is cheating /exploiting feature in this game 

    First load screen on this game had cube base and that was only one we had ... remember that we have what 10-15 land blocks more now than 2 1/2 years ago 

    Try make a base 60 land block ... its a cube 

    If you can build it why not use it ... only illogical thing here is that players that cheat by having 1 or 2 WHs do not need to build 3 one when we that have 3 , 4 or 5 cant go under 3 Whs thats total BS and totally OK with KIXEYE ... and why only heavy coiners can play with 1 or 2 WHs 

    4 land tile rule is c.r.a.p when same time you can have under 3 WHs when 3 is min lvl to other players ... it wont add up 
    I agree if you wanna take away a players right to build their base THEIR way then ANYONE with less than 3 wh's should be forced to build the wh's back up to 3 .
  • lileybug11
    lileybug11
    Master Tactician
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 2,133
    Drax said:
    Why did Kix force through the change on square bases??? Just caved in to all the whining that's why.


    Bring back the square base i tell you ... bring it back...

    I know how to beat them, I can reach the OP and kill it in one hit and take all the crud from around it. Just because the whiners can't do it does not mean the rest of us can't do it.


    The square base is convenient as it groups everything together in a nice handy package and if you know what you are doing is an easy killllll - first time, every time


    Flippin taken away my easy kills **** it! Now I got to work for a living
    Because kixeye's golden coiners cant reach them. Kixeye only listens to its rich shareholders.....So now, we have to play the game how THEY want us to play instead of us free thinking and playing our way. I swear that the Obama Administration runs kixeye now.
    a lvl 70 complaining he cant have a square base ????
    ..sliceNdice said:
    Raids are meant for higher level players with more capabilities. Low level and ill-prepared players can do the FM and now, the Foundry, to get tech up to date to become more competitive in raids.
  • Zaharkan
    Zaharkan
    Incursion Leader
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 1,067
    Drax said:
    Why did Kix force through the change on square bases??? Just caved in to all the whining that's why.


    Bring back the square base i tell you ... bring it back...

    I know how to beat them, I can reach the OP and kill it in one hit and take all the crud from around it. Just because the whiners can't do it does not mean the rest of us can't do it.


    The square base is convenient as it groups everything together in a nice handy package and if you know what you are doing is an easy killllll - first time, every time


    Flippin taken away my easy kills **** it! Now I got to work for a living
    Because kixeye's golden coiners cant reach them. Kixeye only listens to its rich shareholders.....So now, we have to play the game how THEY want us to play instead of us free thinking and playing our way. I swear that the Obama Administration runs kixeye now.

    That's not an intelligent statement. If anyone can reach them it would be a coiner, just buy a few BB, or get a few friends to do it or coin a fleet of Siege B, ST3, HE3 boats. In my experience it's exactly coiners that love to come up on a square base.

    And I don't exactly know how you can call a square base a free thinking design. It's the fetal position...I'm sorry but that's not good kung fu, and indicates that you have freed your mind only from delving into the complexity of defending.
    Sweet Sweet Lemonade coming to a base near you
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  • Toy Jun Kie
    Toy Jun Kie
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    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 1,259
    LMFAO can you believe this, some post is marked as spam !!! Now they want to take away our right on free speech, way to go kix
    It's not Kixeye flagging the posts it's the fanbois/fangirls that love anything Kixeye puts out .
  • joeyfanof88
    joeyfanof88
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 140
    Drax said:
    Why did Kix force through the change on square bases??? Just caved in to all the whining that's why.


    Bring back the square base i tell you ... bring it back...

    I know how to beat them, I can reach the OP and kill it in one hit and take all the crud from around it. Just because the whiners can't do it does not mean the rest of us can't do it.


    The square base is convenient as it groups everything together in a nice handy package and if you know what you are doing is an easy killllll - first time, every time


    Flippin taken away my easy kills **** it! Now I got to work for a living
    Because kixeye's golden coiners cant reach them. Kixeye only listens to its rich shareholders.....So now, we have to play the game how THEY want us to play instead of us free thinking and playing our way. I swear that the Obama Administration runs kixeye now.
    a lvl 70 complaining he cant have a square base ????
    not complaining at all. I level noob cubes with siege b morts. Just making a statement
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  • DOUBLEMINT
    DOUBLEMINT
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 1,154
    You can still make a square base Just put your Op by the water  :D
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  • Drax
    Drax
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 1,755

    Zaharkan said:


    That's not an intelligent statement. If anyone can reach them it would be a coiner, just buy a few BB, or get a few friends to do it or coin a fleet of Siege B, ST3, HE3 boats. In my experience it's exactly coiners that love to come up on a square base. < Obviously has not got a clue about ship design.

    And I don't exactly know how you can call a square base a free thinking design. It's the fetal position...I'm sorry but that's not good kung fu, and indicates that you have freed your mind only from delving into the complexity of defending.
    So you have an idea, and with no coins, take the mercury available from the last raid. This has 5 weapon slots. I built this and used no coins (that's right zero coins, although i did win these the first time they came around) all you have to do is mix the tools on the ship for different range. I find it does work OK and there are plenty of other ships that offer even better results. 

    The long range assaults target the OP in the middle. The rest can't reach that far so just hit what is in range... soon clears a cube. then just move round the square ... OH happy days...

    ...
  • Zaharkan
    Zaharkan
    Incursion Leader
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 1,067
    Drax said:

    Zaharkan said:


    That's not an intelligent statement. If anyone can reach them it would be a coiner, just buy a few BB, or get a few friends to do it or coin a fleet of Siege B, ST3, HE3 boats. In my experience it's exactly coiners that love to come up on a square base. < Obviously has not got a clue about ship design.

    And I don't exactly know how you can call a square base a free thinking design. It's the fetal position...I'm sorry but that's not good kung fu, and indicates that you have freed your mind only from delving into the complexity of defending.
    So you have an idea, and with no coins, take the mercury available from the last raid. This has 5 weapon slots. I built this and used no coins (that's right zero coins, although i did win these the first time they came around) all you have to do is mix the tools on the ship for different range. I find it does work OK and there are plenty of other ships that offer even better results. 

    The long range assaults target the OP in the middle. The rest can't reach that far so just hit what is in range... soon clears a cube. then just move round the square ... OH happy days...


    LOL...ok you got me there chief. I've just never had the patience to plink away at an OP with 5 assault missiles :)
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  • Shonaldo
    Shonaldo
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 378
    Medals are lame.  Who cares how many points etc you have on the global leaderboards etc apart from tossers with no life?
  • EvilGeniusReborn
    EvilGeniusReborn
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 3,269
    The moral of the story is don't pop your bubble until your base is repaired. <:-P
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  • lileybug11
    lileybug11
    Master Tactician
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 2,133
    Drax said:
    Why did Kix force through the change on square bases??? Just caved in to all the whining that's why.


    Bring back the square base i tell you ... bring it back...

    I know how to beat them, I can reach the OP and kill it in one hit and take all the crud from around it. Just because the whiners can't do it does not mean the rest of us can't do it.


    The square base is convenient as it groups everything together in a nice handy package and if you know what you are doing is an easy killllll - first time, every time


    Flippin taken away my easy kills **** it! Now I got to work for a living
    Because kixeye's golden coiners cant reach them. Kixeye only listens to its rich shareholders.....So now, we have to play the game how THEY want us to play instead of us free thinking and playing our way. I swear that the Obama Administration runs kixeye now.
    i beg to differ your statement, i think most square base owner are (were) coiners as they didnt mind coining they're dock 3-4 times a day just to stop somebody getting alliance points
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    Raids are meant for higher level players with more capabilities. Low level and ill-prepared players can do the FM and now, the Foundry, to get tech up to date to become more competitive in raids.
  • telemarks
    telemarks
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 637
    DazzXP said:
    Medals are meaningless, who cares, also if your base is badly damaged they could 100% your base but infact only inflict 10% damage depending on how much health your structures have. so no poping your bubble early will not give them medals.
    Unfortunately that is not the way its working .. if you kill the OP on a base already 99% damaged, you will get 2* medals.

    If however you attack a 99% dead base and FAIL to get the OP .. you get no penalty ...

    Its a win-win for the attacker, and a lose-lose for anyone who pops their bubble before the base is repaired.
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