What about having it outside on a timeout base. They hit 25% on the prep and bubble you ****. could be something to look at. But once we find ways to screw the star hunters over kixeye will tells us we can only build our base in a way that they tell us to.
kixeye wants the non coiners to die a horrible death
and they want to keep the coiners happy with the ability to smash everyone beneath them that cant afford the defenses to win against them.
they dont care at all for the little guy who CANT coin, all they care about are the people who COIN.
having lost the ability to even protect my outpost i changed to the only authorized design i have now by kixes new let your base fall rules.
i changed to a straight in approach, come in destroy everything and leave, hope that keeps them happy, only gonna make me go after them in every single forums post from this day forward.
since i cant play any more cause i will forever be in a bubble, i am gonna play on forums every day until further notice, and if they dont change the game for the non coiners to be able to fight coiners on even grounds than i will just sit on forums all day long and attack their updates one after another.
Well they can suck it anyway. Wont change my base and don't give- a if I cant play any more. NOBODY takes money from ME and tells me what to do. The last raid was so boring I quit after tier 2, helped some alliance mates, but then decided the game is just getting to be a drag. Going back to reality, fun, and no more wasting time on 20 some builds waiting in the wings. FU SUCKEYE-Ron out.
I dont have all of the stuff to stop a level 65 rolling through my base. Which is what will happen. Guard fleet will take months to build. If they are going to do this then it needs to be five up and five down. At least let me try and defend against someone i might actually have a chance of stopping. And you call it noob cube well here another alternative with 1/2 off repair times i dont need to coin repairs anymore so ill just buy a perma bubble and you wont get nothing from my base.
That's just what Kixeye WANTS you to do is SPEND $$$$$$$$$
No, because I'm not a moron. Taking the football and running off into the locker rooms isn't allowed either, and crying that somebody might get their feelings hurt and not get their participation ribbon if you don't allow it doesn't make the game 'fun' it makes it stupid.
WOW! ... Not a moronn? Then where did the metaphor about football and locker romms come from? What you say was not within the parameters of the game of football in the first place. Square bases was a mean for someone to protect themselves. Just like every other way you were/are abloe to do with equipping fleets, bases and other stuff in the game. And then to change it because someone whines about it making it more difficult for them to get their quota - is not within the "spirits of the game". Thats just - as you so clearly state - stupid.
Now you and I can argue about this all day long. I will never see your point like you will never see mine. I can only assume you are one the original whiners about square bases. You and me arguing about this has ceased for my part. I have long realised I can't win arguments against morons.
It was an exploit, pure and simple, and they finally decided it crossed the line from annoying to worth fixing. You can run off and hide declaring yourself winner all you want, I certainly don't expect anything less from someone that would defend square bases as within the spirit of the game.
An exploit WTF are you talking about ? CLONING FLEETS IS AN EXPLOIT having a square base is (was) a STRATEGY CHOICE as they were giving up their DOCK meaning FOUR HOURS OF DOWNTIME to protect their OUTPOST.
Well this is an ALL-TIME-LOW for Kixeye.... What's next you going to tell us what Weapons we have to use and on what Hulls we have to put them... Hell why not make it illegal to stack ship when battling... In fact why don't make show we can't even control our ships... DUMB ****
finally death of the square base cowards...... guess im coming for all the square bases who cant be a square now
Ok, I'm closing this thread.
Kaos Rebel, while I certainly don't want to diminish any negative experience you may have had during the raid, as I think most players would agree that the raid was a little rocky, posting on the forums that you've spent 600 coins on repairs during Forsaken Fury 2 when your last expenditure of coins was actually over a month ago certainly isn't going to fly.
Gotta love it saying that medals represent your skill at "PvP" base hitting combat. How is hitting a base anywhere near PvP? The player "controlling" the base controls nothing except maybe a defending fleet. Now if they added this for FvF combat then it would be true PvP.
Gotta love it saying that medals represent your skill at "PvP" base hitting combat. How is hitting a base anywhere near PvP? The player "controlling" the base controls nothing except maybe a defending fleet. Now if they added this for FvF combat then it would be true PvP.
BP FvF is literally the worlds worst 2d top down fighting game. I enjoy it sometimes, and it can be vaguely strategic, but as an actual game it's a laughable test of skill. Bases at least adhere to most of the basic principles of the tower defense genre. If pewpewpew twitch jockeying is the only test of skill of worth to you, go play Counterstrike.
Back to my exact same spot: Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
Ah so you think the true player vs player means that only one person has control while the other watches? Then find a turn based strategy game because that is basically what you are calling player vs player.
Added to the release notes. Essentially, the a building cannot be 4 Land Tiles away from water on all sides. Hope that clarifies things.
Sounds like a predecessor to more land tiles baby!!!
I really seriously doubt that, although that's a potentially valid point. More stringent rules preventing certain types of placement might make more land tiles possible without making the game even more ridiculous.
Back to my exact same spot: Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
Ah so you think the true player vs player means that only one person has control while the other watches? Then find a turn based strategy game because that is basically what you are calling player vs player.
You try and stick any more words in my mouth I'm going to start taking rent out of your ****.
Base hitting is the main focus of the game, fvf was fun in the early days precisely because it was so meaningless. It can still be fun, but if anything it's even more meaningless nowadays with the zerg rush Stingray and 1001 sub nub commandos rushing to any engagement. Hell at least Tank Commander for the Atari had walls blocking some of the terrain to add something to going pewpewpew at each other.
Back to my exact same spot: Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
So if these have to be completed IN ORDER.... can someone place the outpost st the entrance of the channel and if it's destroyed going in, the attacker does not get stars? If so, something needs to change. The outpost does need to take a beating, but with creativity, I'm sure if this has to be done in order, you may see something like this.
To earn Medals, objectives must be completed in order.
• 1st Star: Destroying 50% of the player’s base. • 2nd Star: Destroying the player’s Outpost.
Earning 2 Stars constitutes a victory.
• 3rd Star: Destroying 100% of the player’s base.
I 100%'d a base in 1 hit with the OP in front and didnt get all the stars. They need to fix that. I dont understand what the significance of the order you do the damage has in this whole thing. If the game "knows" if you prepped the base and that counts towards total damage, then why cant a destroyed OP at the entrance count towards the 50%+ OP or 100% damage? Doesnt make much sense to me.
It is funny how when the warehouse protecting was up for debate people were crying like little girls. Yet when it does not affect them it is okay. What a crazy game and how the rules are allowed to change. Who cares if they were the minority, they had a style of play that had downfalls aka the dock being trolled. When a game company starts telling you how to play a strategy game it is no longer a strategy.
Love them or hate them, Kixeye's view of square bases has not changed since their inception. Whereas at the beginning they said they werent illegal they also stated that. let me quote, "Square bases are not in the spirit of the game." So at that point you had to figure they were gonna figure out a way to get rid of them.
And frankly I dont understan all the problems. If you are not the base hitting type player and are mostly a fvf type then this change should be a boon for you. You now only have to wait 2 hours for your dock to repair. Furthermore all you square base people will get their docks repaired faster as well. And there is nothing in the rules that says you can't still have square base, you just have to have the op closer to the water. So put it at the maximum distance and surround the thing with 7 bombards and 7 flaks and see if it works out.
You try and stick any more words in my mouth I'm going to start taking rent out of your ****.
Base hitting is the main focus of the game, fvf was fun in the early days precisely because it was so meaningless. It can still be fun, but if anything it's even more meaningless nowadays with the zerg rush Stingray and 1001 sub nub commandos rushing to any engagement. Hell at least Tank Commander for the Atari had walls blocking some of the terrain to add something to going pewpewpew at each other.
And you are stating the base hitting for medals isn't meaningless? And come "try" and take rent out of my ****. You made a statement, I countered that with one of my own. It is called an open discussion or debate. Do you feel unarmed or something?
So how long til they tell us that we cant have warehouses or outposts unprotected......
Kixeye had it **** right the first time they laid out the system......
They made people protect warehouses or lose medals.....That should of never changed. Seriously if a level 65 can attack a level 40 and 100% them the old system was perfect. The level 40 could rim the level 65 take out a warehouse and win medals back. It was raining tears of high levels "I dont want to change my base" boo hooo hooo,
Now in the interest of "Square bases are not in the spirit of the game."
How the hell is leaving warehouses/ OP / tactical lab/ buildings / on the outside in the spirit of the game? I see square bases and leaving OP in the channel as the same thing. How is it any different....oh yes people cant 100% them this way. Oh so people only get 2 stars instead of 3.
This game designers catering to one side but not the other side is sickening. It also makes me sad to see so many people crying about the medal system 1 weeks ago calling them noobcubes. Back in the day yes back in the day when the game was balanced we had "All our buildings/ Warehouses/ Op/ and docks on the inside. Oh yeah, if we are making people do things. Why not go old school? blahhhhhhhhhhhhh
When I read the new rule regarding how far in your buildings can go - thus killing square bases - I was initially excited. No more points farms hiding from me in square bases! But then I realized something... square bases was a strategy they used well to thwart me, not a cheat or even a coward's approach to the game. A legit strategy.
I've written in forums already about how upset I was - & still am - over Kixeye's above & beyond attacks on our proficiency by nerfing not only the subs but also the overall damage taken in the fleets. They added the bases to make things harder - cool beans. Then they made sure the Typhoons werent replaced by the bases to make it just that much harder - okie dokie. But the increased capabilitries of the military fleets on top of all that... WTF? It was an intentional effort to punish all of us for learning how to play their game & play it well.
We got nerfed & nerfed hard. Now we're being told what was legit (though questionable) with square bases before is now illegal? Why? Because they figured out how to play the game? WTF! Why is Kix working so hard to nerf us all the time? I personally hate the square bases, but it was strategy & we arent supposed to have every base be perfectly hittable.
So what if you cant get 3 stars form a square base? Everyone & their mother would get so many easy 2 stars that the square bases wont be holding too many medals after a short while. It would have sorted itself out without Kix nerfing EVERTHING it can get its hands on.
Knock it off Kix! No one wants to play a game that has rules constantly changing to work against you. That's just no fun.
this was not an intended legitimate strategy it made bases a way kixeye the game developers didnt want but they didnt foresee it and they removed it if you dont like thier game you can always leave can a mod or cm jump in and explain this to some of these guys please they dont listen ?
The bottom line is people who wanted to play the game their way, are now being forced to play kixeye's and higher level players way. I see it all the time n here, crying over square bases and the way certain players play, it's their game let them play it how they want. The player base should be upset about being forced to play a way dictated by kixeye, i remember all the issues people had over the arbiter and other thing placed in by kixeye, but nothing is done about it. I also remember the 1 week no play by a large group of players that got the res changed from all elite to half and half, i think its about time to let kixeye know we want this crap metal issue removed with a no play until removed time.
The bottom line is people who wanted to play the game their way, are now being forced to play kixeye's and higher level players way. I see it all the time n here, crying over square bases and the way certain players play, it's their game let them play it how they want. The player base should be upset about being forced to play a way dictated by kixeye, i remember all the issues people had over the arbiter and other thing placed in by kixeye, but nothing is done about it. I also remember the 1 week no play by a large group of players that got the res changed from all elite to half and half, i think its about time to let kixeye know we want this crap metal issue removed with a no play until removed time.
the bottom line kixeye intended on removing it for awhile and a lot of people knew it tough people got suprised by it coming this week fix your base and learn to do it quick its kix game if they want you to use one tile then thats what you will use or dont play they are not unfair restrictions these are required ones if you made a square base its your own fault now
The only problem I now have with this system is that you get the same reward hitting a 70 as you do hitting a 40 if you win. The only change being the 40 is typically an easy kill. The highest posts on the leaderboards will be people who exclusively attack low levels, and then coin their repairs to get even more medals faster. This is about as much PvP as Wow max level and Pvp equipped rogues killing level 18 people. No contest. Heck, if you know where the channel is, you might even be able to AUTO them if you have enough antimorts to counter their Vics.
For every type of ship, there is a counter build, you just have to have the bad luck of running into it.
Goliaths are underated for raiding. Sure they're slow, but with their Acc boost, Phalanxs are beast on them.
There is no greater troll of a DNX fleet than drac frigates with Strike system 3 and a cut 1.
not in alliance ... so could you get 200 points still ... oh wait yes they did put in that c.r.a.p
alliance points from NON alliance bases ... total c.r.a.p feature ... but who cares anymore
I did post in comms that i have OP at entry ... lets see if someone attacks
IF you played the game as much as you gripe here on the forums you would know that you dont get alliance points from non-alliance tagged bases..
Yes, the Medals system does NOT mean that you can attack non-Alliance bases for Alliance Points. The rules for earning Alliance Points remains the same.
The only problem I now have with this system is that you get the same reward hitting a 70 as you do hitting a 40 if you win. The only change being the 40 is typically an easy kill. The highest posts on the leaderboards will be people who exclusively attack low levels, and then coin their repairs to get even more medals faster. This is about as much PvP as Wow max level and Pvp equipped rogues killing level 18 people. No contest. Heck, if you know where the channel is, you might even be able to AUTO them if you have enough antimorts to counter their Vics.
The larger the gap in medals, the less you get from the hit. If the lower lvls keep getting hit then they'll have a low amount of medals and the high lvls will have a high amount. At that point the higher lvls will gain almost none from hitting the lower lvls.
Eventually the system will balance out so that it's much better for the high lvls to hit other high lvls rather than low lvls.
I know someone who already has a high number of medals and a lvl40 will only give hit a max of 4 medals from an attack.
The bottom line is people who wanted to play the game their way, are now being forced to play kixeye's and higher level players way. I see it all the time n here, crying over square bases and the way certain players play, it's their game let them play it how they want. The player base should be upset about being forced to play a way dictated by kixeye, i remember all the issues people had over the arbiter and other thing placed in by kixeye, but nothing is done about it. I also remember the 1 week no play by a large group of players that got the res changed from all elite to half and half, i think its about time to let kixeye know we want this crap metal issue removed with a no play until removed time.
Players can still have a square base if they wish, I dont see what the problem is, if there worried about giving aliance points away then dont join an alliance. Since the feature came out you had to kill the OP for points, so upto now these noob cubes have been cheating the system that was intended for alliance feature.
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Kixeye had it **** right the first time they laid out the system......
They made people protect warehouses or lose medals.....That should of never changed. Seriously if a level 65 can attack a level 40 and 100% them the old system was perfect. The level 40 could rim the level 65 take out a warehouse and win medals back. It was raining tears of high levels "I dont want to change my base" boo hooo hooo,
Now in the interest of "Square bases are not in the spirit of the game."
How the hell is leaving warehouses/ OP / tactical lab/ buildings / on the outside in the spirit of the game? I see square bases and leaving OP in the channel as the same thing. How is it any different....oh yes people cant 100% them this way. Oh so people only get 2 stars instead of 3.
This game designers catering to one side but not the other side is sickening. It also makes me sad to see so many people crying about the medal system 1 weeks ago calling them noobcubes. Back in the day yes back in the day when the game was balanced we had "All our buildings/ Warehouses/ Op/ and docks on the inside. Oh yeah, if we are making people do things. Why not go old school? blahhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Goliaths are underated for raiding. Sure they're slow, but with their Acc boost, Phalanxs are beast on them.
There is no greater troll of a DNX fleet than drac frigates with Strike system 3 and a cut 1.
If the lower lvls keep getting hit then they'll have a low amount of medals and the high lvls will have a high amount. At that point the higher lvls will gain almost none from hitting the lower lvls.
Eventually the system will balance out so that it's much better for the high lvls to hit other high lvls rather than low lvls.
I know someone who already has a high number of medals and a lvl40 will only give hit a max of 4 medals from an attack.
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