Base design parameters and Medals (merged thread)

  • farginicehole
    farginicehole
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    Moved my op to the front of the channel to boycott
  • Lolumad
    Lolumad
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    vetehinen said:
    Have my OP at entry now ... too much c.r.a.p is just too much c.r.a.p ... had fun the firs year have been waiting better thing last 1 year not seen any only worse and worse ideas put in this game that have nothing to do with game play .

    Look dock has 1/2 repair time ... how did that happen ... did chicken little die ? did sky fall down ? ... why not at same time cut down ship build and repair times ? 





    Moved my op to the front of the channel to boycott
    Please post your coords. Easy 200 points
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  • LandedKiller 22
    LandedKiller 22
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    KIXEYE if you can reduce dock repair by 50% why not reduce ship repairs by 5% at least
  • robertg
    robertg
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    this medal thing is to encourage us to hit non alliance people too
  • vetehinen
    vetehinen
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    edited 29 Aug 2013, 6:55PM
    not in alliance ... so could you get 200 points still ... oh wait yes they did put in that c.r.a.p 

    alliance points from NON alliance bases ... total c.r.a.p feature ... but who cares anymore 

    I did post in comms that i have OP at entry ... lets see if someone attacks 
  • bruce_lee
    bruce_lee
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    Moved my op to the front of the channel to boycott
    It would be kind of funny if we can get others in our sectors and our alliances to do the same. This way people can get their alliance quota every week without much damage or farming level 50's and players can get back to the PvP end faster.
  • Max Last
    Max Last
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    Heh.  The stars are earned consecutively, as in you can't get 2 stars without having gotten 1 star.  A dead OP is a dead OP regardless of when it happened, though.  The same was true for Alliance Points.  Trust me.  At one point I had my OP completely outside my base on it's own island and lol'd at people who prepped it and 20% rimjobs then still failed to do 50% damage.
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • Devil_Warrior
    Devil_Warrior
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    edited 29 Aug 2013, 7:00PM
    This is so funny, normally when I see a square base I just keep hitting the dock until the change the base design or relocate. :))
    I think that people should have the choice to chose by them self how there base should be. If they want a square base, then let them have it, then I just got more docks to hit. >:)

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  • brad.buch
    brad.buch
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    Joined Apr 2013 Posts: 2
    wow telling me how to build my base now guess the coining stops here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Max Last
    Max Last
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    brad.buch said:
    wow telling me how to build my base now guess the coining stops here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I don't even have words for how stupid this is.  There were already half a dozen rules that limited what you could and couldn't do with base designs.  No diagonal connections, no unconnected land within 2 tiles other land, no enclosed ponds, no dock on dry land, no turrets on water.  If you just want to play Minecraft and make up your own rules resolving combat via 'I win' 'nu-uh' 'ya huh' 'nu uh', feel free to go do that.
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • martyss
    martyss
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    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 1
    so now that kixeye started this new rule with the building placement people who had some what of a defence against bigger players farming them by useing a square base design no longer can. is kixeye going to upgrade the base weapons that are reseached so we can at least have a chance to defend or selfs
  • No_Beard
    No_Beard
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    My base used to be square....thats how Kixeye designed it for me when I logged on for the very first time....I guess their own design no longer works now?
  • Pirate_Ken
    Pirate_Ken
    Greenhorn
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 6
    Seems the least Kixeye could do about new change is let you change to a legal design.  How ever it does make me smile that you get a little FU for having been running with a noob cube.   
    LOL!!
  • Lolumad
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    No_Beard said:
    My base used to be square....thats how Kixeye designed it for me when I logged on for the very first time....I guess their own design no longer works now?
    You also had like 20 tiles, not really much you can do with those few tiles and that many buildings.
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  • Cheesy_Shark_Tongue
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    Lolumad said:
    LMAO, the new medal system will probably kill off all the smaller alliances in game, prepare for mass dis-bandings, I already disbanded mine.
    Why? Because bases are going to be hit a bit more frequently? Sounds like your alliance was pretty awful if you're disbanding over that.


    Disbanded because we are low level approaching level 40, soon to be hammered by much higher level players on a daily basis. We were a small group who just wanted to use the chat and get some small bonus' but the bonus' never seemed to make any difference. Most of my friends have quit their alliances in the past few weeks and many refuse to join any because it's all pointless. By the way, my friends (not in my alliance) are all level 50+, two of em are level 60 and have no interest in alliances anymore. The drama, people telling you that you need to play more, play a certain way, demanding you get points every week or be kicked, told to defend bases if you are on, etc, etc. We simply want to play the game the way it was 2 years ago and have fun, it's a game, not a job.

    first, 40-50 is not a big target currently, and medals will only change that for a short time, until the 40's have no medal value.  Maybe a week.  Next, the drama and whatever other bullshit you encountered is a function of the people in the alliance, not of the alliance feature itself.  A well constructed alliance can function quite well with minimal drama.
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  • Ebenezer Scrooge
    Ebenezer Scrooge
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    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 730
    good luck with that one cause i dont see it happening anytime soon. 
  • farginicehole
    farginicehole
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    Max Last said:
    Heh.  The stars are earned consecutively, as in you can't get 2 stars without having gotten 1 star.  A dead OP is a dead OP regardless of when it happened, though.  The same was true for Alliance Points.  Trust me.  At one point I had my OP completely outside my base on it's own island and lol'd at people who prepped it and 20% rimjobs then still failed to do 50% damage.

    It says "in order"....that seems very clear to me


  • Lolumad
    Lolumad
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    Max Last said:
    Heh.  The stars are earned consecutively, as in you can't get 2 stars without having gotten 1 star.  A dead OP is a dead OP regardless of when it happened, though.  The same was true for Alliance Points.  Trust me.  At one point I had my OP completely outside my base on it's own island and lol'd at people who prepped it and 20% rimjobs then still failed to do 50% damage.


    It says "in order"....that seems very clear to me
    Written down it's 100% clear, but until I see a video of someone hitting a base with the OP on the rim and not getting medals, I'll assume that the order really doesn't matter.
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  • USMC_Sergeant_E5
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    This game has just went from bad to worse in one update.  Good job Kixeye!
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  • beel78
    beel78
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    some of you asking question need to go hit a base.  Little pop ups happen at each tier of the medal.  Pretty self explanatory. 
  • Max Last
    Max Last
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    Lolumad said:
    Max Last said:
    Heh.  The stars are earned consecutively, as in you can't get 2 stars without having gotten 1 star.  A dead OP is a dead OP regardless of when it happened, though.  The same was true for Alliance Points.  Trust me.  At one point I had my OP completely outside my base on it's own island and lol'd at people who prepped it and 20% rimjobs then still failed to do 50% damage.


    It says "in order"....that seems very clear to me
    Written down it's 100% clear, but until I see a video of someone hitting a base with the OP on the rim and not getting medals, I'll assume that the order really doesn't matter.
    It matters because getting the OP then doing 30% will still be a fail.  But yeah, pretty sure I'm right.  Goes along with the cumulative damage thing, too.
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • BALLAST198
    BALLAST198
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    Oil rigs in the far corners of build-able space pretty much negates any chance of 100%.  No fleet can  reach all corners and defeat all of the base in one go.  Am I missing how the damage is calculated? because i can see 100% being impossible when the player is online and problematic at best if they aren't.
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  • beel78
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    ALPHADOGZ said:
    my op is out front lol
    cords?
  • beel78
    beel78
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    thats why the call it a prep.  It sucks but oh well.
  • Cheesy_Shark_Tongue
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    I predicted this.  The easy solution is to give 3 stars for 90 or 95%.
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  • archon96
    archon96
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    now you star collector are wanting it even easier then they made it. why dont they just make it 25% for all 3 stars.

  • Michigan Marauder
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    The outpost is just a big warehouses, why not have it out front with the other warehouses? Who cares if people get medals or alliance points off you? Might as well make a random piece of land at the edge of your base on the outside and put the radio tower on it. Should cause some confusion for the attacker and only cause them to get 2 stars
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  • bruce_lee
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    The outpost is just a big warehouses, why not have it out front with the other warehouses? Who cares if people get medals or alliance points off you? Might as well make a random piece of land at the edge of your base on the outside and put the radio tower on it. Should cause some confusion for the attacker and only cause them to get 2 stars
    One great benefit of the new level 5 walls is that they make a great bank for Zynthium so WH and OP are really not needed anymore. When I do the missions, I dump all the extra into walls them scap them when I need it.
  • beel78
    beel78
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    bruce_lee said:

    The outpost is just a big warehouses, why not have it out front with the other warehouses? Who cares if people get medals or alliance points off you? Might as well make a random piece of land at the edge of your base on the outside and put the radio tower on it. Should cause some confusion for the attacker and only cause them to get 2 stars
    One great benefit of the new level 5 walls is that they make a great bank for Zynthium so WH and OP are really not needed anymore. When I do the missions, I dump all the extra into walls them scap them when I need it.
    did that during the last raid as, I had WAY too many walls and it was far easier to do a good prep for under 25%.  Ended up removing half of them.
  • dayuma
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    When I read the new rule regarding how far in your buildings can go - thus killing square bases - I was initially excited. No more points farms hiding from me in square bases! But then I realized something... square bases was a strategy they used well to thwart me, not a cheat or even a coward's approach to the game. A legit strategy.

    I've written in forums already about how upset I was - & still am - over Kixeye's above & beyond attacks on our proficiency by nerfing not only the subs but also the overall damage taken in the fleets. They added the bases to make things harder - cool beans. Then they made sure the Typhoons werent replaced by the bases to make it just that much harder - okie dokie. But the increased capabilitries of the military fleets on top of all that... WTF? It was an intentional effort to punish all of us for learning how to play their game & play it well. 

    We got nerfed & nerfed hard. Now we're being told what was legit (though questionable) with square bases before is now illegal? Why? Because they figured out how to play the game? WTF! Why is Kix working so hard to nerf us all the time? I personally hate the square bases, but it was strategy & we arent supposed to have every base be perfectly hittable. 

    So what if you cant get 3 stars form a square base? Everyone & their mother would get so many easy 2 stars that the square bases wont be holding too many medals after a short while. It would have sorted itself out without Kix nerfing EVERTHING it can get its hands on.

    Knock it off Kix! No one wants to play a game that has rules constantly changing to work against you. That's just no fun.
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