Hitting bases after the torpedo nerf

RagE-GOAT · 13 Apr 2013, 12:22PM

Been hearing from a lot of people that hitting bases is impossible after they nerfed the ship torpedoes. So here I am hitting bases, out ranging plasma chargers, polarons and dodging gauss just like you used to with torps... Sure margins are smaller and DPS is lower. But it works.

http://youtu.be/iItzmCRXKZI

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Krazie243 · 13 Apr 2013, 1:16PM

I'm pretty sure the only weapon firing while outside tower range is the Mass Driver. That is because its range is equal to Polarons and Plasma Chargers, but with the problem for towers that their range begins at the point of the weapon. Shooting at the tower from below is better than above due to the position of the weapon, and it allows you possibly 250-1000 more range depending on the width of a tower. This goes nearly triple for the OP.

RagE-GOAT · 13 Apr 2013, 1:19PM

Yep that is what i was using Mass Driver I. You can almost cover half a tower before it fires.

DigitalChaos · 15 Apr 2013, 3:47AM

thats a nice little hack you got going on there.... you just hit my base and rendered all turrets useless. Now before you come with the **** about it was skill...you flew RIGHT PAST my OP, with its plasma charger on it....not 1 **** single turret fired. And i tested it with another guy in sector....his plasma charger turrets worked on my fleet....he attacked and mine worked on his.....you didnt outrange the turrets not with longbows, and like i said you flew alongside the op.....9 plasma turrets including the OP...not 1 fired...hmmmm.

RagE-GOAT · 15 Apr 2013, 3:52AM

Watch the above video. Mass driver out ranges Plasma Chargers. I hit you exactly the same way.

Range of your turrets is measured from the center of the gun. The OP has a lot of dead space around it. I didn't go past it i strafed around its range.

Learn the game mr **** hurt farm.

DigitalChaos · 15 Apr 2013, 3:55AM

Read before you speak. i watched YOUR attack on my base, your longbows wasnt just in range of OP, they was way within range of several turrets....and you outranged em all? sure...they aint in a **** straight line. you was about a module or a little more distance from OP....thats not well within range? stupid ****

RagE-GOAT · 15 Apr 2013, 3:59AM

You mad bro? Want a tissue?

I'm not speaking i'm typing. And i did read. You are the one swearing and calling me a hacker because you obviously have no idea how the game works and have a horrible base.

I'll film it next time.

DigitalChaos · 15 Apr 2013, 4:02AM

horrible base? You got some miners....infact you didnt do much....are You mad bro? lol

RagE-GOAT · 15 Apr 2013, 4:04AM

Yeah not much, only 1.3 million of your resources with no damage to my fleet. Farm.

DigitalChaos · 15 Apr 2013, 4:05AM

lmfao, thats 1 vega fleet xd mean while you give my base a bubble or protection....yet you think you can level bases with this crap you spew....keep dreaming boy

RagE-GOAT · 15 Apr 2013, 4:07AM

Meanwhile i hit another 20 bases with the same result and all you have done is whine about me hitting you.

Come hit me "boy" and show me what YOU have got... Nothing.

DigitalChaos · 15 Apr 2013, 4:10AM

I like how your screenshot even says you FAILED...Poetic justice at its finest lmao

RagE-GOAT · 15 Apr 2013, 4:13AM

Got what i came for, easy res. Spin it how you like. If you cant handle having your base hit i suggest you find a new game.

DigitalChaos · 15 Apr 2013, 4:15AM

The funnier thing is how you think the res got would impede me and benefit you.....if by this stage thats a big haul for you, maybe You should find a new game.

RagE-GOAT · 15 Apr 2013, 4:25AM

I believe it has impeded you. You have been whining about it in your own sector coms and now on here for well over an hour. Nothing else you can do about it i guess....

DigitalChaos · 15 Apr 2013, 4:46AM

Rage-UC said:

I believe it has impeded you. You have been whining about it in your own sector coms and now on here for well over an hour. Nothing else you can do about it i guess....

I guess you are right, there is better things to do than waste time with scrubs like you, im off to bed with the wife. You however have nothing better to do, so have fun with your mass driver and your soggy sock

RagE-GOAT · 15 Apr 2013, 4:49AM

4.02 million now.

Also, even kixeye is telling me i won this one. Does that mean i didn't fail this time?

Krazie243 · 16 Apr 2013, 2:59AM

Rage-UC said:

4.02 million now.

Also, even kixeye is telling me i won this one. Does that mean i didn't fail this time?

Kixeye tells you that you won as long as your ships don't all die. That isn't really a measure of much if you're just sitting around sniping. Nearly anyone can do that.

I'm a little curious what your fleet is fitted with. Even Rancors with 2 x Cargo 3 and LBDs that have cargos (not what is pictured above) would not hold that much. Maybe you have Cargo 4?

That aside, if you are hitting rich targets you will inevitably get lots of loot from a single downed storage. I know for a fact that if you tagged even one of my storages you'd walk away with a full load. Even if the storage gave out a mere 5% (of 5M of each res) you'd get near a million. And somehow I think the actual percentage is higher.

RagE-GOAT · 16 Apr 2013, 3:36AM

I think the "victory" image only shows up if you get over 25%? 50%? not sure first time i hit him i got "defeat" image even tho i never took a hit and got 500% so it must be based on damge to the base in some way...

Games down for maintenance so cant screenshot the fleet, but its 2 rancors with Cargo II, and Cargo IV unless im remembering it wrong... It holds 1.3 something million at 500%

That's why with base hitting as it is at the moment hitting the OP is a bit pointless, your better off sniping out turrets and then gunning 2-3 warehouses down. If they have res you will fill up. If not come back in an hour and take the rest of the base...

Krazie243 · 16 Apr 2013, 2:05PM

Well for the first time I launched a 6 ship LBD with Mass Drivers today. Finally got them all built. I hit a base that was pure Plasma Chargers and Gauss. Dodged the Gauss just fine with Strafers 3 on my ships. But I only got half his base. That was about 5 storages and more than half his guns, but the OP is still standing as well as quite a bit else. The DPS on these is just too small to effectively wipe out a base. And it isn't like I can make my ships any more powerful. So until I get Broadsword it is impossible to roll a base that has Chargers or Polarons in reasonable quantity, purely because you can't blitz a high number of them and you can't wipe a base if you're only sniping it.

I hit the exact same base twice yesterday with 3 LBDs each time. Got further along perhaps due to attack angle. But it really is frustrating that I can't do little more than wipe a few towers and a storage or two even when my tech vastly exceeds his. I am 5 levels up on him and can't total him unless I get 3 attacks =(

RagE-GOAT · 16 Apr 2013, 10:05PM

Yeah the DPS needs a bump for sure on the Mass Driver. Or a weight reduction so we can get 2 on a LBD. It takes well over 3 mins for me to take an OP4 thats armored and shielded with 4 of them so it is really frustrating if you come in on the wrong side and all you have a hope of hitting is turrets and the OP.

I'm 4 hours away from my first broadsword, hoping that goes better with 2 Mass Drivers. Still need to research Mass Driver II, but i need to upgrade repair yard so i can have more in a fleet ... seems a long road to being able to hit a base half well haha

Krazie243 · 16 Apr 2013, 10:48PM

^^ Yup, pretty much where I'm at. I wonder tho if BSDs have 3 weapon holds? Because Exos have 3 whereas the Gens have 2. So maybe they do the same upgrade? That would be nice. 3 Mass Drivers (even L1 ones) would help a lot in killing a base.

baloneyjustice · 17 Apr 2013, 5:15AM

The things I take away from this is at OP3 and OP4 your best defence seems to be tight pack cluster of evenly mixed turrets consisting of Gauss, Plasma Chargers, and Polarons to keep you from wanting to get close to the core... and Heavy armor/shield to keep you from trying to manuver and burn though weakly placed turrets if do try. I could be wrong.. Im only still on OP3 at this time.. so a honest answer would intrest me.

RagE-GOAT · 17 Apr 2013, 5:29AM

My tips for stopping me would be:

Spread warehouses around the OP so its hard to get an angle on more than one without having to take another turret
While on warehouses, don't have 7. Have 1 or 2 and upgrade it and armor it. I have 2 and hold over 10 million, why make it easy?
Don't have turrets on the same plain, so i cant just strafe in a straight line and take out turrets as i go. make the attacker have to readjust.
Gauss is important, means i have to spread ships out and dodge instead of just grouping and focusing fire.
Armor and shield your OP, takes ages to chew through but if i have no choice because of lack of targets from one angle make me sit there for a while and time out.
Armor/Shield and turret level matters, dont make it easy. I have hit bases that have timed me out just trying to kill the 3 turrets in the way from a warehouse.

Of course the best tip is get some torps in your base!

Busterking · 20 Apr 2013, 4:52AM

Curtis Smale said:

^^ Yup, pretty much where I'm at. I wonder tho if BSDs have 3 weapon holds? Because Exos have 3 whereas the Gens have 2. So maybe they do the same upgrade? That would be nice. 3 Mass Drivers (even L1 ones) would help a lot in killing a base.

What a noob

Krazie243 · 20 Apr 2013, 1:32PM

Busterking said:

Curtis Smale said:

^^ Yup, pretty much where I'm at. I wonder tho if BSDs have 3 weapon holds? Because Exos have 3 whereas the Gens have 2. So maybe they do the same upgrade? That would be nice. 3 Mass Drivers (even L1 ones) would help a lot in killing a base.

What a noob

Do me a favor and leave. I was neither talking to you or even arguing with ANYONE in this thread. It's one thing to insult me because we have a difference of opinions, but get the **** outta here troll.

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Hitting bases after the torpedo nerf