For those saying this raid is about skill.

Instigator1
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Put your money where your mouth is, let's see a video of 1 fleet taking out a level 50 or 49 even. Otherwise it's not about skill it is a spam fest/ coinfest spam with ships and coin a lot. Please by all means prove me wrong show a vid of you taking a 50 with only one fleet, when that can be done then it truly is about skill otherwise STFU with all of your "If you drive your ships well" " If you build your fleets well BS "
  • Max Last
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    Show me a video of a previous raid of you doing 1 million points with 1 fleet.
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  • vance.boeman
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    edited 24 Mar 2013, 1:16PM
    how do you figure a 1 of 10 target is worth a million points.
  • Instigator1
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    Max Last said:
    Show me a video of a previous raid of you doing 1 million points with 1 fleet.
    Totally different, all of these fanboys yourself included saying it's about skill lets see ya take out just one level 50 with one fleet otherwise not about skill it's just about spamming the same fleet over and over, no skill there.
  • Instigator1
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    how do you figure a 1 of 10 target is worth a million points.
    He's using fanboy logic Vance.
  • Freakshow
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    meh, don't let it get to ya man. you'll see those every raid. "I finished the raid with I fleet" or "I did lvl 1-50 with specs". 
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  • d-_-Nindy-Biatch-_-b
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    i could do a video of doing a lv 45 with 1 fleet
    but not going to show a angry german kid how to do a raid
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  • Lucy B Good
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    Cheese ?
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  • DazzXP
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    edited 24 Mar 2013, 1:29PM
    Specs and MCX do well, however not everyone has these ships sooooo. If you avoid their ballistic fleets and stay at max range only damage you get is from missiles, with high reactive defense and speed you can take little damage. With the engs you can avoid mortars from max range with a few hails you can keep them off your back for no damage, don't get to close. The highest damage you are going to get is from dics and torps. Typhoons and Nemesis are are little different however, siege cannon or rocket as a lead to remove the drones so you can clear up the guards, and nemesis space out your ships so they don't all get hit at once.
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  • Instigator1
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    Not whining just want to see true skill from the fanboys, if it were truly about skill then skillful driving of a properly built fleet then they should be able to take it, sending multiple fleets on suicide runs does not constitute skill.
    Cheese ?

  • DazzXP
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    I wouldn't put a video up as kixeye will learn from it and make it even harder next time round.
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  • Instigator1
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    DazzXP said:
    I wouldn't put a video up as kixeye will learn from it and make it even harder next time round.
    No such video exists because it's not about skill.
  • Hitman007
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    I will get you a video i will ask the guy to do it again, i seen a guy take out a 50 in 1 turn no damage
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  • LADY_SCOOTER_TRAMP
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    I WILL SAY THIS IS A AWESOME GAME BUT, FIXING THE ISSUE WITH FLASH PLAYER, WINDOWS 8 AND SUCH SHOULD BE ON THE TOP OF YOUR LIST KIXEYE, BEING A EMPLOYEE OF GAMERS MAGAZINE I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH ISSUE AS THESE COME ACROSS MY DESK, I HAVE THE BEST OF THE BEST TO TRY OUT NEW GAMES WITH BOTH IN SYSTEMS AND INTER NET SERVICE. AND I CAN'T GET PAT THE FLASH PLAYER ISSUE WITH THIS GAME . IF THERE IS A FIX YOU REALLY NEED TO LET WHAT IS LEFT OF YOUR PLAYER KNOW IT. IN 10 MINITES I HAD IT CRASH 15 TIME...
  • SmaDoc
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    The skill comes in how long you can last in a given fleet, even if you have to "spam" it. I could theoretically see a spec fleet being able to do a 50 with little to no damage, if it's setup right, and you're mindful of the dive clock and know your turn and combat speed well. How ever you would still have to "spam" it as it'd time out eventually. You'd have to go several rounds to get it done.

    Personally I did better than I expected on the 50, found it easier than the 49, and maybe the 45, though that could have been my imagination. I couldn't get the timing right and was either surfacing right inside the range of inters, or I'd be in range of them before I surface and then it was all over as everything else was in range lol (of course part of the problem was chatting on comms, or watching tv and not paying attention during battle). There can still be "skill" involved with a spam/coin fest. Having the "skills" means you don't have to spam/coin as much as someone else. 
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  • Wyvern The PinkiePie
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    Is OP mad because he wants every single thing done in 1 turn?
  • Mr Popo
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    gunboats....lv 50s kill themselves when you put a gunboat in to fight.

    1 fleet for anyhting over 45 would be nice to see.
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  • Chris Robb
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    Not whining just want to see true skill from the fanboys, if it were truly about skill then skillful driving of a properly built fleet then they should be able to take it, sending multiple fleets on suicide runs does not constitute skill.
    Cheese ?

    1 fleet 1-50 and about 70ish coins cos i got bored and wanted to play more couldve easily done with half at least ... and im not a fanboy i just refuse to feed the money machine any more than is necessary...
    oh if this was a teaser, explains why you are all master baiters :)

    bored :)

    Hitman007 said:
    It has built in re-targeting however because you do not have laser on them they will not hit subs under water with them.
  • Chris Robb
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    Max Last said:
    how do you figure a 1 of 10 target is worth a million points.
    He's using fanboy logic Vance.

    Previous raids, top tier prize was 6.5 million.  Drac Hunt, the 49 and 50 are more difficult that all the rest of tier 5 put together each.  6.5 cut into equal thirds, alright, you're right.  I was being generous.  Let's call it 2 million.

    You're setting an arbitrary goal entirely unrelated to the actual task.  If you don't think that skill and good fleet builds make a difference...well, I'm not sure why you're playing this game at all then.  That's kind of like...the whole game.  If you think simply throwing the biggest baddest fleet we have at it is how coiners do things, I don't know what to say.  People who have money to spend typically didn't get it by wasting money.  There is almost always an efficient way to do things.  If I wanted to do it without coining, then picking the right choice of fleets, and using them correctly would become even more important.

    Honestly, I'm still confused as to what you think your actual point is.  Is it difficult? Yes.  Does it take multiple fleets? Almost without a doubt.  Are you going to fail badly if you just throw the wrong fleet at it over and over?  Yeah.  Pretty sure you will.
    honestly i found the 46 and 43 more difficult than the rest lol
    oh if this was a teaser, explains why you are all master baiters :)

    bored :)

    Hitman007 said:
    It has built in re-targeting however because you do not have laser on them they will not hit subs under water with them.
  • PirateKing-no1
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    to make it simple take 2 lvl 60s exactly the same stuff ships and fleets but one coined it all the way has a vague idea what to do with his ships but constantly coins repairs doesnt pay a lot of attention hes 60 he thinks he doesnt have to and the other coined sometimes but learned more how to use his ships through practice and paying attention to what he does with his time and his coin. remember both coin so its not about who does and doesnt. who do you think will find the raid easier someone who knows to take the inters down quick the mcx then the bs or the guy that hits any and coins the repair its quite simple the guy who know how to use his fleet because he took his time learning there are a few people moaning its too hard but then theres people the same lvl saying they done it no damage and it was easy so please dont try and say thats not possible there is players that know how to use thier ships down to the littlest detail and i know half the moaners including me dont have half the skill as those people so at least give them some respect for the time and effort they put into thier game even if you dont this is not aimed at a specific person just saying it in general as not to offend anyone. but remember when you make new fleets sending them in to a battle is not always enough practice will always be a required feature of any fleet to be able to compete with those that are already at the top i forgot that today as i used my old battlecruisers i spent that much time using my dreadx that i forgot how good they actually are done some good damage with them remember how much i accomplished when they were my best and im not the best player but using them i had to put effort in

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  • DeathAndDestruction44
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    hopefully nobody will be stupid enough to post that video, because if they do it will let kixeye know what they need to change before the next one to make it even harder, the sooner people stop showing off and mouthing off on here the easier it will be for everyone to do these raids

  • Sharkbait_Knockboots
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    Put your money where your mouth is, let's see a video of 1 fleet taking out a level 50 or 49 even. Otherwise it's not about skill it is a spam fest/ coinfest spam with ships and coin a lot. Please by all means prove me wrong show a vid of you taking a 50 with only one fleet, when that can be done then it truly is about skill otherwise STFU with all of your "If you drive your ships well" " If you build your fleets well BS "
    I took out a 50 with one fleet. I even took out a 45, 46, 47 and 49 with one fleet. It was all about timing. That is skills, I think ;)
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  • Joseph Blake
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    to make it simple take 2 lvl 60s exactly the same stuff ships and fleets but one coined it all the way has a vague idea what to do with his ships but constantly coins repairs doesnt pay a lot of attention hes 60 he thinks he doesnt have to and the other coined sometimes but learned more how to use his ships through practice and paying attention to what he does with his time and his coin. remember both coin so its not about who does and doesnt. who do you think will find the raid easier someone who knows to take the inters down quick the mcx then the bs or the guy that hits any and coins the repair its quite simple the guy who know how to use his fleet because he took his time learning there are a few people moaning its too hard but then theres people the same lvl saying they done it no damage and it was easy so please dont try and say thats not possible there is players that know how to use thier ships down to the littlest detail and i know half the moaners including me dont have half the skill as those people so at least give them some respect for the time and effort they put into thier game even if you dont this is not aimed at a specific person just saying it in general as not to offend anyone. but remember when you make new fleets sending them in to a battle is not always enough practice will always be a required feature of any fleet to be able to compete with those that are already at the top i forgot that today as i used my old battlecruisers i spent that much time using my dreadx that i forgot how good they actually are done some good damage with them remember how much i accomplished when they were my best and im not the best player but using them i had to put effort in

    goodluck out there were players in here and pirates in the game remember be respectfull and people will respect you
    I agree with this, there is some common sense/skill needed. There is also skill in the controlling of your ships.
    BUT, I also agree with the OP, it is  I would say about 10% skill(ship control ,which ships to kill first, best fleet to use) Vs. 90% spamming fleets.
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  • Joseph Blake
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    Hitman007 said:
    I will get you a video i will ask the guy to do it again, i seen a guy take out a 50 in 1 turn no damage
    I would love to see that Hitman. Do your best to convince him to do it again. No damage he shouldn't mind. LOL!
  • JDredbull
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    1% skill 99% spam
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  • Doug Girard
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    Cheese ?
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  • Chris Robb
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    Hitman007 said:
    I will get you a video i will ask the guy to do it again, i seen a guy take out a 50 in 1 turn no damage
    I would love to see that Hitman. Do your best to convince him to do it again. No damage he shouldn't mind. LOL!
    a full 50 in 1 turn as in one go no time out all dead no dmg .... ? sorry hitman i call BS  took me 3 runs almost no dmg to kill a 50 ....each one is a time out i took my time and enjoyed this raid .. yup i said that .. no rush chilled and did at my own pace
    oh if this was a teaser, explains why you are all master baiters :)

    bored :)

    Hitman007 said:
    It has built in re-targeting however because you do not have laser on them they will not hit subs under water with them.
  • JDredbull
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    I show you all some reall skill, with nothing but coins i can complete this raid with a blindfold on... LMAO
    I think I will call this raid a day, Poor me something tall and strong, make it an hurricane... Its only half past twelve, but I don't care, its five o'clock somewhere...
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