Signs of desperation

slaphead
slaphead
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Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 171
Giving away a rocket BP?  I would like to bet not enough are coining................listen to the customers Kixeye they have had enough :(
  • Max Last
    Max Last
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 3,254
    Or they realized that anyone without Int Lab 10 and siege rockets who did get it was going to be just as big a whining cry baby as you people.  Since that they could at least do something about, they did.
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • Le Wulf
    Le Wulf
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 6,063
    " Until Kixeye get their greed under control, I have slashed my coin spend to 25% of what I used to and that goes for future raids"

    Yeah that will show them lol
  • Le Wulf
    Le Wulf
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 6,063
    edited 23 Mar 2013, 11:03AM
    No I am not a troll. My lack of intellect is you probably not knowing me nor my previous views expressed on the forums.

    And clearly you do not know me at all as I am well known as not having drac hulls and being lvl 47 despite being around since rr2 (rr1 too apparently but i dont remember that one).

    You are still coining is my point.

    Edit: on name calling i would advise not going down that route.
  • Chepus
    Chepus
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 581
    I'm coing at 25% of what I used to. NO BUSINESS can stand a 75% REDUCTION IN PROFITS. Simple maths and business sense. If nothing changes,my spend will reduce to NIL. That's just me granted, but the question is, how many others have or will do the same. I know only too well that talk is cheap and my opinion is one of thousands, but that's no reason to say one persons opinion is any less valid than anothers and I appologise for my personal outburst. We all have to accept that everyone has a view and entitled to express it. The true test will be the profit margins for the raid and only Kixeye will ever know that. Certainly the overwhelming views of the forums is that they have got it badly wrong, but maybe those that feel agreived are more vocal, who knows.
  • Le Wulf
    Le Wulf
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 6,063
    edited 23 Mar 2013, 3:08PM
    Yeah, there was a post on life span and a hint on planned customer diversion.

    The fact is your still giving money. I have seen whole alliances quit who spent a lot of money way before the drac hunt raids.

    Edit: to the two chaps who felt this is a troll post, i suggest you understand what a troll post is and how to use the flag option correctly.
  • Tyroneshoelaces
    Tyroneshoelaces
    Potential Threat
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 74
    hmmm 250 -300 coins per tier  someone needs to reevaluate their fleets 
    who cares
  • kevinjarman
    kevinjarman
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 143
    i for one find that the raid has now found a right balance if you do not want to coin and dont want the top prize that is down to you the game has now evened its self out, i started befoe the firsat raid and there was only one winner and i did not so much whining and cry back then you lot want something for nothing 
  • Brademus-Krieg
    Brademus-Krieg
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 887
    I learned from the last raid of this format and refused to play this one. I am watching friends lose fleet after fleet trying to win a useless ship or ships. Everybody hates the JUGG and this new one is no better (even with the new rockets they added when nobody was buying in). Use common sense, I got trash, mid level ships and yet my junk ships can sink a JUGG like nothing and this new piece of KIXEYE folklore will do no better. Top range maxed out with rockets is only 58, many weapons have a further range and when put on a well armored and fast ship its lights out for this thing. The flakgun looks interesting but what weapon will you take off to put one on for no more on with this range and percentage of stopping power it? I see a good friend of lower mid level base who answers every SOS call for help being told to STFU or you will be iggied for begging for help. The HUGE difference is that this time help by prepping levels over 30 means the prepper is either going to lose coins or huge amounts of repairtime. It's not helping for FREE nor almost for free in this format. KIXEYE is killing itself and making this game a game of haves and havenots, which is alright if there is a chance the havenots can move up some day but they have no chance. So they coin heavily to win a ship, it takes more than a month to even have that ship ready to use (unless you coin heavy to get it). And in that time KIXEYE has another raid and your fleet is obsolete. IT STINKS AND I REFUSE TO PLAY ANY RAID OF THIS FORMAT. Star Trek game looks better every day. PS I have invested a couple of hundred into this game. 
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  • Gazbeard
    Gazbeard
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 190
    One of the things I've found about the current drac hunt raids is that it removes a lot of "player's choice".
    In both the Base Invaders and Lightning series of raids, players could choose to complete them fast and furious by hitting high targets, or grind it out on the small targets, and still have a shot at the top prize (no, I don't agree that everyone should get top prize, but everyone should have a chance at it).

    Now, instead of player ability or determination deciding who gets top, it's 99.9% about who has real world money to afford it.  I usually budget 200 coins for a raid.  If the prize is exceptional, I might stretch that to 300 or 400, or as with the Christmas "all-hulls" raid I stretched it to 500 (but we had an extra 3 days play and a lot more prizes to accumulate) because I wanted to do some "catch-up" on hulls won.

    For Drac Hunt 2, based on what I'd seen in Drac Hunt 1, I budgetted 200 coins with a view to not even trying tier 5 if I'd used more than 50 coins to complete to level 40.  Well, they increased the tier 3 & 4 difficulty so much I finished tier 4 with just 18 coins left. 

    I would have had a low-coining shot at tier 5 but they screwed me over last night with repairs - before bed I instant-repaired those that I could, coined a low damaged fleet, and set a 7-hour repair away for during sleepy time - all of those were back to pre-repair damage this morning.  In other words, Kixeye undid the repairs from last thing last night, and kept the coins.  So now I won't be repaired until this evening (not going to coin it again) and instead of having 60 hours to grind out level 5, I'll only have 48 hours, which I don't believe will allow for enough real-time repair time to finish it.

    You screwed yourselves on this one Kixeye - you robbed me, just as you did in the final minutes of the Christmas raid, and you're losing revenue from me on this one.  Get yourselves sorted out.
    LEVEL = 60
    Draconian Hulls won =
    Corvette, Frigate, Destroyer, Destroyer-X, Light Cruiser, Light Cruiser-X, Battle Cruiser, Battle Cruiser-X, Battleship, Juggernaut, Missile Cruiser, Missile Cruiser-X, Dreadnought-X
    Forsaken Hulls won = Battle Barge-A, Leviathan-A, Floating Fortress-A, Sea Scorpion-A, Hammerhead-A, Hammerhead-B, Hammerhead-C (Mauler), Goliath, Hurricane, (Freddy) Mercury, Spectre, Triton
    + enough armour to cover the planet, more rockets & torpedoes than I know what to do with, and assorted other bits and pieces of ammo, turretry & weaponry
  • Le Wulf
    Le Wulf
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    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 6,063
  • LUCKY-V
    LUCKY-V
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,103
    Max Last said:
    Or they realized that anyone without Int Lab 10 and siege rockets who did get it was going to be just as big a whining cry baby as you people.  Since that they could at least do something about, they did.
    Oh is that the reason?  =))
  • Max Last
    Max Last
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 3,254
    LUCKY-V said:
    Max Last said:
    Or they realized that anyone without Int Lab 10 and siege rockets who did get it was going to be just as big a whining cry baby as you people.  Since that they could at least do something about, they did.
    Oh is that the reason?  =))
    You tell me.  Since every sub-literate proto primate who can fail to spell has called them out about it being a cheap trick and how they're not falling for it, do you really think Kixeye would think we'd care?  Go ahead.  I'm open to contrary opinions.  Tell me you just assume they're so bone numbingly stupid that even the morons that can't form a complete sentence and keep demanding Kixeye increase their warehouse space because they can't build their raid hull with 12,000 tons of weapons and armor, and increase the dock weight too because they can't fit five of those in a fleet are smarter.  Explain to me in small enough words that my clearly inferior mind can comprehend why they would think the kinds of people who care about having all the best toys would care about a Forsaken weapon that still falls short of even the old terribad siege rockets?
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • RW Miller
    RW Miller
    Master Tactician
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 2,136

    LOL the raid isnt failing badly what I see are players that are failing badly and blaming everyone bu tthemselves if you cant do it just give up but what does what anyone else does have to do with your game???.. This isnt a shocker  your fleets are going to die you can either a) fix them the old fashioned way  or B) coin some repairs  Totally your choice..

       I think kixeye has well established that these events arent going to be easy. The real greed is from the players who think it should be handed to them.. Everyone can win the prize if they want to work at it.. Whos fault is it if you dont have the fleets for it yet??  Maybe its time for some players to realize the big players they are **** and moaning about at one point had to go through the same thing of not being able to win the prize they wanted....

       Isnt it time to just stop crying about the raids and the prizes and the its too hard for me...  Use that thing on your shoulders for something besides a hat rack and figure out what you are doing wrong ....

  • LUCKY-V
    LUCKY-V
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,103
    Max Last said:
    LUCKY-V said:
    Max Last said:
    Or they realized that anyone without Int Lab 10 and siege rockets who did get it was going to be just as big a whining cry baby as you people.  Since that they could at least do something about, they did.
    Oh is that the reason?  =))
    You tell me.  Since every sub-literate proto primate who can fail to spell has called them out about it being a cheap trick and how they're not falling for it, do you really think Kixeye would think we'd care?  Go ahead.  I'm open to contrary opinions.  Tell me you just assume they're so bone numbingly stupid that even the morons that can't form a complete sentence and keep demanding Kixeye increase their warehouse space because they can't build their raid hull with 12,000 tons of weapons and armor, and increase the dock weight too because they can't fit five of those in a fleet are smarter.  Explain to me in small enough words that my clearly inferior mind can comprehend why they would think the kinds of people who care about having all the best toys would care about a Forsaken weapon that still falls short of even the old terribad siege rockets?

    Max Last said:
    LUCKY-V said:
    Max Last said:
    Or they realized that anyone without Int Lab 10 and siege rockets who did get it was going to be just as big a whining cry baby as you people.  Since that they could at least do something about, they did.
    Oh is that the reason?  =))
    You tell me.  Since every sub-literate proto primate who can fail to spell has called them out about it being a cheap trick and how they're not falling for it, do you really think Kixeye would think we'd care?  Go ahead.  I'm open to contrary opinions.  Tell me you just assume they're so bone numbingly stupid that even the morons that can't form a complete sentence and keep demanding Kixeye increase their warehouse space because they can't build their raid hull with 12,000 tons of weapons and armor, and increase the dock weight too because they can't fit five of those in a fleet are smarter.  Explain to me in small enough words that my clearly inferior mind can comprehend why they would think the kinds of people who care about having all the best toys would care about a Forsaken weapon that still falls short of even the old terribad siege rockets?
    Sure sign of a professional troll is to try and spin a conversation or topic into a totally irrelevant direction. You fit that to a T but you go one step further in your fanboy quest and even suggest and add words to the convo (look up and see in your post where you have added name calling at kix). 

    Another sign of a pro troll is not having started any thread topics of their own. You also fit that to a T since I don't ever recall seeing one started by you or any other member of the fanboy club. 

    In summary, you may think and believe you are far more intelligent than any and all other forum members but you fanboys are nothing more than forum disruption. I hope I spelled it out in small enough words for you to understand.


  • Pig-Pen_LS
    Pig-Pen_LS
    Incursion Leader
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 1,342
    Wulf wrote: »
    " Until Kixeye get their greed under control, I have slashed my coin <br />
    spend to 25% of what I used to and that goes for future raids"<br />
    <br />
    Yeah that will show them lol
    25% of nothing is still nothing 
  • Le Wulf
    Le Wulf
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 6,063
  • Max Last
    Max Last
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 3,254
    LUCKY-V said:

    Sure sign of a professional troll is to try and spin a conversation or topic into a totally irrelevant direction. You fit that to a T but you go one step further in your fanboy quest and even suggest and add words to the convo (look up and see in your post where you have added name calling at kix). 


    That's utterly fascinating.  So...correct me if I'm wrong here, but looking at the first post the topic at hand was Free blueprint for a Forsaken rocket and how Kixeye only did it to somehow magically convince more people to coin.  Which I responded to.  And expanded on when you questioned it.  And your response here....is on what exactly?
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • LUCKY-V
    LUCKY-V
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,103
    edited 23 Mar 2013, 1:24PM
    Max Last said:
    LUCKY-V said:

    Sure sign of a professional troll is to try and spin a conversation or topic into a totally irrelevant direction. You fit that to a T but you go one step further in your fanboy quest and even suggest and add words to the convo (look up and see in your post where you have added name calling at kix). 


    That's utterly fascinating.  So...correct me if I'm wrong here, but looking at the first post the topic at hand was Free blueprint for a Forsaken rocket and how Kixeye only did it to somehow magically convince more people to coin.  Which I responded to.  And expanded on when you questioned it.  And your response here....is on what exactly?
    I responded to you because you for some reason you need to make up an excuse or reason why this added prize was made available. You have zero idea what kix's motivation was. So, my response was to point out your inability to avoid trolling. 
  • Max Last
    Max Last
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 3,254
    LUCKY-V said:

    I responded to you because you for some reason you need to make up an excuse or reason why this added prize was made available. You have zero idea what kix's motivation was. So, my response was to point out your inability to avoid trolling. 
    Yeah, and the OP has zero idea as well.  I offered an alternative.  You offered bullshit.  Far as trolling goes, fine, let's go point by point:

    "Another sign of a pro troll is not having started any thread topics of their own. You also fit that to a T since I don't ever recall seeing one started by you or any other member of the fanboy club. 

    In summary, you may think and believe you are far more intelligent than any and all other forum members but you fanboys are nothing more than forum disruption. I hope I spelled it out in small enough words for you to understand."

    A) Fark you.  I have more Forum Topics started than you by more than the factor of our relative post counts.
    B) Fark you.  The last thing the forums need is more people spamming useless new threads on topics that could be covered in existing threads.
    C) Fark you.  I'm the disruption?  This from the guy backing a bunch of whiners who repeat the same crap over and over and over and over and over again, with absolutely no useful content whatsoever and always in their own unique and special snowflake thread?  There's like 6 goddamn threads on the goddamn Maelstrom V. 2 of them have some vague semblance of actual discussion and the other 4 are just pissy little tirades like this stamping their feet and declaring "I'm so angry!" over and over like a 3 year old throwing a tantrum.
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • LUCKY-V
    LUCKY-V
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,103
    Max Last said:
    LUCKY-V said:

    I responded to you because you for some reason you need to make up an excuse or reason why this added prize was made available. You have zero idea what kix's motivation was. So, my response was to point out your inability to avoid trolling. 
    Yeah, and the OP has zero idea as well.  I offered an alternative.  You offered bullshit.  Far as trolling goes, fine, let's go point by point:

    "Another sign of a pro troll is not having started any thread topics of their own. You also fit that to a T since I don't ever recall seeing one started by you or any other member of the fanboy club. 

    In summary, you may think and believe you are far more intelligent than any and all other forum members but you fanboys are nothing more than forum disruption. I hope I spelled it out in small enough words for you to understand."

    A) Fark you.  I have more Forum Topics started than you by more than the factor of our relative post counts.
    B) Fark you.  The last thing the forums need is more people spamming useless new threads on topics that could be covered in existing threads.
    C) Fark you.  I'm the disruption?  This from the guy backing a bunch of whiners who repeat the same crap over and over and over and over and over again, with absolutely no useful content whatsoever and always in their own unique and special snowflake thread?  There's like 6 goddamn threads on the goddamn Maelstrom V. 2 of them have some vague semblance of actual discussion and the other 4 are just pissy little tirades like this stamping their feet and declaring "I'm so angry!" over and over like a 3 year old throwing a tantrum.
    Ok lets take this as you say point by point:

    A) I said I didn't recall ever seeing a topic started by you. Maybe you have in the past but surely not recently.
    B) Why is that a problem for you since after-all you are not a mod, cm or an employee (or are you).
    C) Look at B.


  • JDredbull
    JDredbull
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 108
    edited 23 Mar 2013, 1:42PM
    Your both trolls, trust me it takes one to know one,.., but you know what, fanboys and trolls (are made for each other)  =))


    Point all this frustration at the people responsible for the mess and not each other, www.kixeye.com  they get paid to take the ****...
    I think I will call this raid a day, Poor me something tall and strong, make it an hurricane... Its only half past twelve, but I don't care, its five o'clock somewhere...
  • Chepus
    Chepus
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 581
    LOL, I've suddenly realised it doesn't matter what anyone says in forums. It's all opinion, mine included and doesnt matter a dam. It is what it is. Kixeye owns the game, if we don;t like it we stop coining and/or stop playing. I like many people should really learn not to take anything personally.....lol
  • JDredbull
    JDredbull
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 108
    edited 23 Mar 2013, 2:02PM
    Very true, we are all getting played, by the bigger player...

    You have to take it personally, for example that nutter just marked my post as spam (now that's personal) LMAO - but i forgive him already....
     (he will understand one day)
    I think I will call this raid a day, Poor me something tall and strong, make it an hurricane... Its only half past twelve, but I don't care, its five o'clock somewhere...
  • Max Last
    Max Last
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2011 Posts: 3,254
    LUCKY-V said:

    Ok lets take this as you say point by point:

    A) I said I didn't recall ever seeing a topic started by you. Maybe you have in the past but surely not recently.
    B) Why is that a problem for you since after-all you are not a mod, cm or an employee (or are you).
    C) Look at B.


    A)  So you were wrong, but it's okay because you were ignorant?  And your opinion is the only thing that matters, eh?
    B) Because I come here to look for actual discussion about the game, not the same tantrums from the same 30 or so screaming complainers filling 3 pages worth of thread titles.  Ignoring that it's simply tedious and annoying, it makes finding any actual threads that contain content difficult.
    C)  'Or are you?'  Seriously?  Just go fark yourself with your **** tinfoil hat.
    Back to my exact same spot:  Tower west, sector 7. coords 3631,461
  • Chepus
    Chepus
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 581

    As a famous American President said "A house divided against itself cannot stand". All the while we "pirates" ( I use the term loosly with a smile on my face) argue with each other about things that actualy don't matter, we are being slipped the big one by the master plunderer...aaarrrgghhh they have my credit card details. Think on.....lol.

  • ohh NOO
    ohh NOO
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 720
    First sign of doomsday .  Next RAID ship hmmm what does it matter they will just get bigger and stronger, so we spend coins on this hull and then next better one, No end to madness
  • Ascension
    Ascension
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 26,257
    Closing thread as it's turned into a pointless argument.

    Oh, and there's already a thread where people complain about the new rockets, Kixeye, and life in general.

    Forum banned by a hypocrite at Kixeye.

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