Definition of Strafing Versus what game says.

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The game describes strafing as moving side to side, an advanced technique knows as strafing.But we all know you cant strafe without right-clicking otherwise your ships will TURN and technically not be traveling to the side.So by this logic traveling backwards without changing direction by using right-click would be strafing, right?Well we all know the KIXEYE descriptions of in-game things can sometimes vague and slightly incorrect, so it still surprises me that people take it to heart and refuse to see the other side of a conversation.Reply with what you think strafing is, or if you agree/disagree  with what I think it is.
 
Here is a video of one of my friends demonstrating STRAFING backwards via right-click

"Right click a location to move there without changing facing direction (Strafe)." Cm Dan himself said these words, check http://www.kixeye.com/forum/discussion/342315/battle-controls  for proof.

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  • KMFDM NOMAD
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    just because you are using right click (strafe button) does not have to mean that you are strafing lolif you go straight back, no side to side movement, are you strafing, yes or no?
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    just because you are using right click (strafe button) does not have to mean that you are strafing lolif you go straight back, no side to side movement, are you strafing, yes or no?
    "strafe button" that means any  time you use it you are strafing, contradicted yourself there, didnt you?
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    either way going back words is called REVERSE. you want to say differant and start an argument, then you can Argue with CM DAN. since he was quite straight forward in what he said on the Release Notes. he did NOT say strafing. and thats the point that a few of us were making. you wanted to start an argument because i did not agree with you, you want to have an Epeen thats fine, plenty of players have them. but if you are going to start an argument then a Post on forums. at least pay attention to what the debate was about
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    dont see anyone saying anything in this, so maybe they just think you are "Pathetic" for starting the post :)
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    either way going back words is called REVERSE. you want to say differant and start an argument, then you can Argue with CM DAN. since he was quite straight forward in what he said on the Release Notes. he did NOT say strafing. and thats the point that a few of us were making. you wanted to start an argument because i did not agree with you, you want to have an Epeen thats fine, plenty of players have them. but if you are going to start an argument then a Post on forums. at least pay attention to what the debate was about
    Yes it is going in reverse but since the only way to do this in the game is by right-click which is used for strafing it can also be considered strafing.Your definition of strafing is correct but when things are put into a game definitions can apply to other things.I completely understand your side of the argument but I have more support to mine and it's not an argument if I agree with you without showing my side of the story first.
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    yes. you have a video of you going in Reverse. with minor Strafing. as the debate started in Comms which you clearly misunderstood the whole time. we were talking about full on Strafing. 
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    yes. you have a video of you going in Reverse. with minor Strafing. as the debate started in Comms which you clearly misunderstood the whole time. we were talking about full on Strafing. 
    I said it is strafing in reverse so technically what you said also applies to what i said."reverse with a bit of strafing" is that not also in other words strafing in reverse?Just because I disagreed doesnt mean I dont understand you.Oh and also, that is not me in the video, look at the name in the map before he attacks...
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    Reverse with a little bit of strafing still does not mean Strafing, it still means backing up. you never played any game with strafing have you? i think someone else said that in comms. in term of gaming. Strafing is just side to side movement while facing target. anything moving backwards is still considered backing up. but im going to bed, going to be fun to wake up and see what comments get put up
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    backing up, also known as Backpeddling. which is the originally word i used in comms
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    edited 20 Mar 2013, 2:04AM
    Reverse with a little bit of strafing still does not mean Strafing, it still means backing up. you never played any game with strafing have you? i think someone else said that in comms. in term of gaming. Strafing is just side to side movement while facing target. anything moving backwards is still considered backing up. but im going to bed, going to be fun to wake up and see what comments get put up
    Ok so how is Strafing in reverse not the same thing that you said?You have yet to say...If you mix bread with milk, is it not still bread with milk?Same thing with "reverse with a little bit of strafing, you are simply going in reverse without changing direction which is a part meaning of strafing...And if you havent noticed(lol) I'm playing Vega Conflict which has strafing.....
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    backing up, also known as Backpeddling. which is the originally word i used in comms
    "Right click a location to move there without changing facing direction (Strafe)." Cm Dan himself said these words, check http://www.kixeye.com/forum/discussion/342315/battle-controls  for proof.
    Looks like now I have EVEN more support to my argument...
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    Look at this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YLlToUPXKEI
    So either Strafe Thrusters isn't working properly or it's not supposed to affect reverse speed

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    B0SS said:
    Look at this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YLlToUPXKEI
    So either Strafe Thrusters isn't working properly or it's not supposed to affect reverse speed

    Yep could be either one, but this is about strafing itself not how thrusters affect strafing.Nice vid btw.
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    B0SS said:
    Look at this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YLlToUPXKEI
    So either Strafe Thrusters isn't working properly or it's not supposed to affect reverse speed

    Yep could be either one, but this is about strafing itself not how thrusters affect strafing.Nice vid btw.
    The vid isn't mine it's from another thread, I'm confused as hell about these straffing stuff, would LOVE a CM DAN explanation on this
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    edited 20 Mar 2013, 3:09AM
    B0SS said:
    B0SS said:
    Look at this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YLlToUPXKEI
    So either Strafe Thrusters isn't working properly or it's not supposed to affect reverse speed

    Yep could be either one, but this is about strafing itself not how thrusters affect strafing.Nice vid btw.
    The vid isn't mine it's from another thread, I'm confused as hell about these straffing stuff, would LOVE a CM DAN explanation on this
    It's possible since main definition of strafing is side to side, even though you can strafe in other directions, that could be why strafe thrusters only work side to side.Or forward/a lil to the side)
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    It would be nice if game mechanics were a little clearer. Hard to beta test when we really don't know how things are supposed to work...
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    BiA said:
    It would be nice if game mechanics were a little clearer. Hard to beta test when we really don't know how things are supposed to work...
    True, descriptions are more important in games than KIXEYE realizes...
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    Just like my rancor firing bug post. No response as to intended mechanic or a bug. 
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    BiA said:
    Just like my rancor firing bug post. No response as to intended mechanic or a bug. 
    You mean it firing from the sides?To me that's very obviously an intended game mechanic as in the rancors stats it states two different shooting degrees, if it was a bug there would only be one firing degree stated.
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    lol...

    i understand that it CAN fire to each side. but should each weapon really fire at each side simultaneously? meaning that rather than the 1 shot per reload you would normally get you are in essence getting a double shot off each reload there is a target on each side. as it is if you can get the rancor to have a target on each side its like you have 8 weapons equipped. seems flawed to me.
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    BiA said:
    lol...

    i understand that it CAN fire to each side. but should each weapon really fire at each side simultaneously? meaning that rather than the 1 shot per reload you would normally get you are in essence getting a double shot off each reload there is a target on each side. as it is if you can get the rancor to have a target on each side its like you have 8 weapons equipped. seems flawed to me.
    I agree although i would hope this is designed as i like it, the fact is your getting 2 for 1 surely the ship would decide which target is closer and fire just at that one or if you chose a different target which was a bit further away but the way it is now you select a target and it moves into position but it can also be firing at a different target at the opposite side which you didn't select. Not an issue in my eyes but would be nice to know if this is intended just incase they take it away (fix it) later.
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    Why don't u just make it that arrow controls direction that flts face and left-click or right-click controls which way they move... would seem more logical, and much easier.
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    edited 20 Mar 2013, 5:20AM
    nvm just thought about what i said i should do that first next time, good idea boddie

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    In video games, strafing is the technique of moving the player's character from side to side, rather than forward and backward. In the context of first person shooters, it refers to the movement alone, even when no weapon is being fired. Sidestepping is an integral part of any first-person or third-person shooter as it allows the player to dodge incoming fire while keeping their view aimed at their target.

    Strafing (wiki link)
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    the Substance of the post has gone from Bollucks to something more important
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    the Substance of the post has gone from Bollucks to something more important
    CM Dan himself referred to moving backwards with right-click as strafing.
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    guy's this has gotten to a point where its like who cares make a chat and argue with ur selfs their or something because this is just he says she says ya de da. right now strafing is what ever the hell kixeye says it is CAUSE THIS IS THEIR GAME. ask a cm what qualifies as strafing and then post it WOW definition of strafing in game.
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    edited 21 Mar 2013, 4:51PM
    There is no such thing as strafing backwards - doing so would be called reverse :).
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