I must agree as I just hit 29 which is the new proposed 40. Now I can get smashed by more players than ever before. Oh joy, that is sure going to keep me excited to log in every day. Let's see, how many times did they enter my base before I finally got my newest bubble? That sounds so exciting.
Let's see what fleet do I have to hit the level 65 that just smashed me? None you say? Oh that's right, kixeye thinks that I should be equal to the task of fighting off someone 25 levels above me. Silly me for not realizing this.
My biggest complaint is going 2 sectors away to hit a base? is that a joke? Its not bad enough that the repair times and build times are insane. Now you want me to take a HH fleet or whatever and take a 2 sector ride to hit someone? Yeah that sounds like a blast. Just tack on an extra 3 hours or so in travel time. That sounds like fun.
Actually thinking about that i'm sure they'll come up with a "get there now" timer which honestly i'm surprised they don't have already. Click off another 6 credits and shave down that time like the ship builds.
......sniff ...sniff.........hmmmm... smells like... CLASS WARFARE ....AND ... SOCIALISM. THOSE EVIL PEOPLE WHO HAD TO WORK HARD, SHOULDN'T GET ALL THE PROFIT. "SPLIT THE WORK, SHARE THE WEALTH" RIGHT? "LETS MAKE THE GAME EASY AND FUN FOR EVERYONE!" YAY!... BY THE WAY, WHEN I WAS LVL 27-29, I WAS THE BEST FARM. MY WAREHOUSES WERE ALWAYS STOCKED. I WORKED HARD, AND MY BASE WAS A CHALLENGE FOR HIGHER PLAYERS. NOW, THE GAME IS CHANGING AGAIN.. IM DONE COINING IN THIS GAME, AND THE GAME IS GETTING STALE.... BLAH..
[B]-NIGHTLOCK-**** LVL 60 Wasting my money on Kixeye's payroll.
my biggest complaint is going 2 sectors away to hit a base? Is that a joke? Its not bad enough that the repair times and build times are insane. Now you want me to take a hh fleet or whatever and take a 2 sector ride to hit someone? Yeah that sounds like a blast. Just tack on an extra 3 hours or so in travel time. That sounds like fun.
Actually thinking about that i'm sure they'll come up with a "get there now" timer which honestly i'm surprised they don't have already. Click off another 6 credits and shave down that time like the ship builds.
[B]-NIGHTLOCK-**** LVL 60 Wasting my money on Kixeye's payroll.
I think the bigger problem is the speed at which players are leveling. With new researches, more builds, labs to upgrade, I think players are acquiring XP too fast and as a result a new level 30 is weaker than someone who hit level 30 just a couple of months ago. When I hit that point, it was normal for a player to have almost all du4 turrets by then and still have kept up with ships. Now, I hit a lot of level 30 bases that have less than half of turrets at du4.
I think you need to either reduce the XP earned or increase the amounts from one level to the next to fix this problem. I'd suggest eliminate the XP for being attacked. Attacker still gets the XP. Moderate or marginal players are at a disadvantage here, as they are attacked more often relative to actual game time. I would also suggest reducing the XP gained from researches and lab upgrades. If you just leave the XP values the same then all you do is increase the number of times we get a congratulatory message (assuming it takes the same amount of XP to go from old 29 to old 30 as new 40 to new 43). Adjusting the XP awarded for various activities should be easier than adjusting and balancing the XP per level.
If this has already been said, then consider this a long winded +1. I'm not about to read 80+ pages of posts.
If this new system come's in I will quit and I won't look back. For all the whiners complaining about being hit by higher players remember we all went through exactly the same when we were smaller. Being hit by bigger players forces you to improve your defenses which in the long run makes you a better player. So stop your **** and start making your bases stronger. One last thing Kixeye please check my account and see how much I spend, this will be lost to you if you implement this new structure, please be aware I am not the only high level player that will quit, ball is now in your court. IF IT'S NOT BROKEN IT DON'T NEED FIXING.
If you are looking for res, I can tell you I don't have any. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.
<--snipped--> For all the whiners complaining about being hit by higher players remember we all went through exactly the same when we were smaller.<--snipped-->
THE F*CK YOU DID!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Back when a LOT of the 32+ players started, those above you that hit YOUR bases didn't have these:
So, when all you higher ups say we went through the same thing, I can TRUTHFULLY tell you, AGAIN, "THE F*CK YOU DID!!!!!"
Those of us in the 27 to 30 range are WHINING for a reason, because if WE had to go through the same thing YOU did, Battle Pirates would be a **** piece of cake!!!!!
So quit telling us you went through the same thing that we're going through, because you DIDN'T, **** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, when all you higher ups say we went through the same thing, I can TRUTHFULLY tell you, AGAIN, "THE F*CK YOU DID!!!!!"
Those of us in the 27 to 30 range are WHINING for a reason, because if WE had to go through the same thing YOU did, Battle Pirates would be a **** piece of cake!!!!!
So quit telling us you went through the same thing that we're going through, because you DIDN'T, **** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The problem with that logic is this..
There also were no Victory Mortars, Cerbs, Tower Specials, Defensive fleets, subs, etc.
The FF's with Peacemaker mortars leveled our bases just fine and took 28M as 500% which was a lot tougher to make up then. You newer players have so many resources, many times you can make up the loss before your bubble drops. That was not always the case. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
so your saying a level 37 can hit a level 30 talking in the current level structure or a level 87 can hit a 41 in the new level structure???? LOL does not sound fair at all but fair isn't the real motive here I know.
If this new system come's in I will quit and I won't look back. For all the whiners complaining about being hit by higher players remember we all went through exactly the same when we were smaller. Being hit by bigger players forces you to improve your defenses which in the long run makes you a better player. So stop your **** and start making your bases stronger. One last thing Kixeye please check my account and see how much I spend, this will be lost to you if you implement this new structure, please be aware I am not the only high level player that will quit, ball is now in your court. IF IT'S NOT BROKEN IT DON'T NEED FIXING.
High levels Never!!! went through levels in the 20's like now. You didn't have kixeye catering to coiners and hi levels. Example multiply out the STORM. Who could win drac? who has toilets,cudas dreads,cruisers? Whiners my ****. the game is for those that pay. No competion,no skill just money to buy your position.
i like the 5+/- but i think the risk and reward is off! u should not get 500% on your fleet for a base that is 5 below yours. how many players hit levels that are hire than there own? swag i would like to see the percent numbers for people that hit above and people that hit below? i think you should change the setup. her is my work in progress idea:
this would motivate people to hit up more. and it would also slow down the lower levels from leveling up fast because they have to recoup their lost resources. you could also do a level cap after level 35 it is 500% for all base bellow
I can not believe that Kixeye is even thinking of doing this , really the guys you are thinking of the things for this game have got to be just stupid from the get go, really wow you all add so many things to the game and never give anyone time to build anything, these raids once a month is just Dumb, if you want to get people to play it more then cut back on the build and repair time in this game. give people time between the raids and back off on this new Level system thing it is not well like and Kixeye you know it why do you still want to forces it on people when everyone is against it really for once listen to the players of this game and not your wallet, because, if you do not list to them some you could start to lose allot of players from this game.I have played daily for over a yr and I seen allot of thing's come and go in the game and really it over all it is a good game and all but there has to be a time to grown and they way your doing it is not the right way , I also was farmed daily at levels 26 Thur 29 and I lived on it is not fair to the guys that have been with the game from the get go for you to just change it for the newer players because they want to cry over getting hit wow we all got level from time to time so what it is the nature of the game . They nedd to just learn like I did how to build their base and fleet to fight off the attacks. so Well I have said all I can say but we will see what happens from here.
Hello can some one tell me just what is going on with the game i have no comms or messages and also i am not able to use the gift or Battle report or Leader buttons when I click them nothing happens
Yes I did got thrught it I was hit by the higher lelvels that had the Dread and Sea Scorpion A and the HH A and the HH B and the cuda's so you can not tell me I was not there, it madde me a better player and made me work on my game and then when the better ship was offered in the last raid it made me work my **** off to get them so i could stand up to the guys that have them before me so yes it can be done and why you crying over a game really wow
Hello can some one tell me just what is going on with the game i have no comms or messages and also i am not able to use the gift or Battle report or Leader buttons when I click them nothing happens
I am strongly in favor of this new setup. The only two things that need change are, do NOT open it up till lvl 50. Players are growing much faster because of the events. So players at lvl 30 now are not like they were 6 mos ago. You will be lvl 32 to 33 before you have all the labs and most research done. Allowing all high lvls to hit a lvl 29 or 30 will be really unbalanced. Also the map speeds will need an increase most only have so much time to play. Thanks.
I agree. I think the initial thought would have been better. It does sounds as if Kixeye is bowing to the high levels. I will add though...this DOES help the lower levels to advance and get out from under the levels that are FAR-FAR superior to them.
I do not like this sytem just proposed. As a level 28, I feel I have a decent base to repel attacks to most fleets up to level 32-33. However, I do not even come close to having a fleet to even threaten most level 31 plus bases. I have had zero chance to win to good raid prizes such as the toilet, or the strike cruiser. This is the difference that bothers me. My best attacking, and defending fleets are FF, and HH's. But I still have a ways to go to get decent fleets of these.
Yet, now you are going to just throw us in the "shark tank" with every player that has been playing since day one. BI6 was my first raid event. I started in the middle of BI5
I know, all the big players are gonna scream to me to build a better base. How? The best base defense weapon, the goliath, was never available to me. Not to mention, the more I do get hit, the quicker I level up. If I lose resources, I have to replace those resources. When I bring them in to the base, I get the points. And again, attacking back is really not an option. At level 28, I just researched FF's, and the only reason I have HH's is the last raid. DU4 is a huge help.
How many of you 29's were attacked by level 35 plus? None. Looks like my generation will be the first.
I really like the idea of the level restructure, but I do not mind it the way it is now, to be honest. But, the new proposed idea here is going to make it WAY worse for people like me. I live in a bubble now because I am constantly attacked. I think since level 24 or so, I have not gone more than 24 hours without being attacked. Even in a no in-sector hitting sector.
Oh well. Life will go on, and I will continue playing. But I am also in a situation where I will never be able to keep up with the players that I am being thrown in with. I can handle getting hit. Been that way for the last couple months. But I thought the level restructure was going to help, not make it worse. I can spend as much as I want, but I still can not geet the good fleets that are being used against me. No matter what I spend.
if all of u cant read this is helping every one by making it smaller then +/-5 because people like u winers are crying and now u dont want it? i dont think the coiners asked for this because as a lvl 31 i am competing with most of them and ik how if fells to be farmed and be a farmer because i like to farm lvl 27 and 28 with bad bases. lvl 34+ like hitting 31s and 30s but by this they cant so basically everyones farms are being taken away.
and too all of u who are saying that all the big people have never been farmed or like the first people that started playing did not have to deal with Strike Cruiser, Dreadnoughts, Dreadnought X and all the other stuff well the only turetts we had were sents and howitzer so it was pretty much the same and we had nothing too look off of like u guys do, u can just go to forms and look at good base designs we had to think of them our selfs so all of u can shut ur mouths. every one saying this is for the big people its not its for the little people so they dont get farmed so kixeye is looking out for u. and making it harder for the big people 33+. and i know i have not spent that much money kixeye but i should be some influence for u all im one of the first 10000 people to play and have been on ur said this hole time. please understand y this will help everyone and make it happen soon please
Basically, a current level 29 is going to be open to all levels higher. They are taking away levels that we can hit below us, but opening us up to everyone above us.
So, again, how is this helping? I say at least make it a few more levels. A level 29 just does not have the fleets of FF's or HH's, let alone everything unlocked for the turrets. Or, at least give us newer players a crack at the strike cruisers and toilets, er goliaths. With this sytem, we will always be at a disadvantage.
if all of u cant read this is helping every one by making it smaller then +/-5 because people like u winers are crying and now u dont want it? i dont think the coiners asked for this because as a lvl 31 i am competing with most of them and ik how if fells to be farmed and be a farmer because i like to farm lvl 27 and 28 with bad bases. lvl 34+ like hitting 31s and 30s but by this they cant so basically everyones farms are being taken away.
and too all of u who are saying that all the big people have never been farmed or like the first people that started playing did not have to deal with Strike Cruiser, Dreadnoughts, Dreadnought X and all the other stuff well the only turetts we had were sents and howitzer so it was pretty much the same and we had nothing too look off of like u guys do, u can just go to forms and look at good base designs we had to think of them our selfs so all of u can shut ur mouths. every one saying this is for the big people its not its for the little people so they dont get farmed so kixeye is looking out for u. and making it harder for the big people 33+. and i know i have not spent that much money kixeye but i should be some influence for u all im one of the first 10000 people to play and have been on ur said this hole time. please understand y this will help everyone and make it happen soon please
Thats because the higher levels will whine and cry if they dont have some lower levels to beat up and farm so they can feel good about themselves and tell themselves how badass they really are.
You know I could accept this idiotic stuff and even the magic mystery ship if KIXEYE would just fix the **** glitches and assign people to catch the hackers. Its bad enough to fight obvious hackers all day with no help from KIXEYE but losing 4 or 5 flts a day to SOS screens, white screens, and blue water screens is just **** frustrating.
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"Life is hard. If you are stupid its harder."
Tried alliance, sail under no man's colors but mine, if I dance I will choose the fiddler and the tune.
Why not just leave it as is?I know a lot of players that don't think changing the rules after they survived themselves getting hit by higher level players,myself being one of those players isn't very fair.It's either learn to over come or quit the game.There are lots of people in the game who don't mind helping if people just ask.I say leave the system as it is.
Level : 74 Home Sector : 383 Current Sector : 362 Sectors Visited : 1,253,433,495,228,382,362,231,290,154,413 Hulls Won : All but limited and Jug X Winner of BI6 in sector 383
In my opinion, these changes will benefit the credit card player only. For the casual player who does not "coin," like myself, the game will only become more difficult to play. I am a level 29 by virtue of accumulating points while playing. There are several players I have played against 5 levels below me who already have fully equipped Hammer Heads and Dreadnoughts because they bought them: I play by skill and daring (but without money) and my best fleets to date are Levis. Kixeye knows the players who coin; and I understand Kixeye's need to make money. Why not be creative and design a two tier game: one for credit card players, and one for those who enjoy the game for skill and daring. That way everyone will have a fair chance, and Kixeye will probably attract more gamers. Thank you.
In my opinion, these changes will benefit the credit card player only. For the casual player who does not "coin," like myself, the game will only become more difficult to play. I am a level 29 by virtue of accumulating points while playing. There are several players I have played against 5 levels below me who already have fully equipped Hammer Heads and Dreadnoughts because they bought them: I play by skill and daring (but without money) and my best fleets to date are Levis. Kixeye knows the players who coin; and I understand Kixeye's need to make money. Why not be creative and design a two tier game: one for credit card players, and one for those who enjoy the game for skill and daring. That way everyone will have a fair chance, and Kixeye will probably attract more gamers. Thank you.
Very well made point John.Kixeye has already implemented part of this by removing travel restrictions,this is going to end up just like the tactical lab most aren't going to want it but they are going to do their best to pull a Wizard of Oz on us and try to keep up from looking behind the curtain and blow a bunch of smoke up our ****.Please get back to the basics of what made this game fun.you keep adding stuff thats making the game glitch more and more everyday and at times it becomes totally unplayable.
Level : 74 Home Sector : 383 Current Sector : 362 Sectors Visited : 1,253,433,495,228,382,362,231,290,154,413 Hulls Won : All but limited and Jug X Winner of BI6 in sector 383
Why not just leave it as is?I know a lot of players that don't think changing the rules after they survived themselves getting hit by higher level players,myself being one of those players isn't very fair.It's either learn to over come or quit the game.There are lots of people in the game who don't mind helping if people just ask.I say leave the system as it is.
you answered your own question. they are not going to want people to quit the game, as you said, thats money down the shithouse
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Updated Attack Ranges
Along with the new distance rules described above, we're updating the attack range rules to further increase the number of valid targets, especially for high level players. The +/- 5 Level range is remaining, but would no longer apply to players level 40 and above (currently level 29).
Our goal is always to improve your gaming experience, so we welcome all feedback, including criticism as long as it is constructive and respectful. Thanks.
All this is now is a free for all on any 29 and above.Most level 29 players are just now getting DU4 and then almost a month to get all of their towers changed to level 4.What are you guys thinking?This is going to make it even harder on these level of players.I could only imagine the horror a level 29 player will have seeing a dread blitz fleet rolling through their base and cutting through it like butter being spread over dry toast.We are in a **** recession and people don't have the money to coin this crap to just play a free "cough cough yeah right" online social game on Facebook.Get a **** grip Kixeye.
Level : 74 Home Sector : 383 Current Sector : 362 Sectors Visited : 1,253,433,495,228,382,362,231,290,154,413 Hulls Won : All but limited and Jug X Winner of BI6 in sector 383
Let's see what fleet do I have to hit the level 65 that just smashed me? None you say? Oh that's right, kixeye thinks that I should be equal to the task of fighting off someone 25 levels above me. Silly me for not realizing this.
Actually thinking about that i'm sure they'll come up with a "get there now" timer which honestly i'm surprised they don't have already. Click off another 6 credits and shave down that time like the ship builds.
LVL 60 Wasting my money on Kixeye's payroll.
LVL 60 Wasting my money on Kixeye's payroll.
I think you need to either reduce the XP earned or increase the amounts from one level to the next to fix this problem. I'd suggest eliminate the XP for being attacked. Attacker still gets the XP. Moderate or marginal players are at a disadvantage here, as they are attacked more often relative to actual game time. I would also suggest reducing the XP gained from researches and lab upgrades. If you just leave the XP values the same then all you do is increase the number of times we get a congratulatory message (assuming it takes the same amount of XP to go from old 29 to old 30 as new 40 to new 43). Adjusting the XP awarded for various activities should be easier than adjusting and balancing the XP per level.
If this has already been said, then consider this a long winded +1. I'm not about to read 80+ pages of posts.
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THE F*CK YOU DID!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Back when a LOT of the 32+ players started, those above you that hit YOUR bases didn't have these:
1. Dreadnoughts,
2. Dreadnought X's,
3. Battleships,
4. Battlecruisers,
5. Goliath's,
6. HH Hull A's,
7. HH Hull B's,
8. Sea Scorpion A's,
9. Strike Cruisers,
10. Interdictors,
11. or Barracudas
So, when all you higher ups say we went through the same thing, I can TRUTHFULLY tell you, AGAIN, "THE F*CK YOU DID!!!!!"
Those of us in the 27 to 30 range are WHINING for a reason, because if WE had to go through the same thing YOU did, Battle Pirates would be a **** piece of cake!!!!!
So quit telling us you went through the same thing that we're going through, because you DIDN'T, **** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The problem with that logic is this..
There also were no Victory Mortars, Cerbs, Tower Specials, Defensive fleets, subs, etc.
The FF's with Peacemaker mortars leveled our bases just fine and took 28M as 500% which was a lot tougher to make up then. You newer players have so many resources, many times you can make up the loss before your bubble drops. That was not always the case. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
High levels Never!!! went through levels in the 20's like now. You didn't have kixeye catering to coiners and hi levels. Example multiply out the STORM. Who could win drac? who has toilets,cudas dreads,cruisers? Whiners my ****. the game is for those that pay. No competion,no skill just money to buy your position.
+5 1000%
+4 800%
+3 600%
+2 500%
+1 500%
=0 500%
-1 500%
-2 500%
-3 300%
-4 200%
-5 100%
this would motivate people to hit up more. and it would also slow down the lower levels from leveling up fast because they have to recoup their lost resources. you could also do a level cap after level 35 it is 500% for all base bellow
"Life is hard. If you are stupid its harder."
Tried alliance, sail under no man's colors but mine, if I dance I will choose the fiddler and the tune.
soon or in the far future? Is sit jut on the chalk board as yet???
Yet, now you are going to just throw us in the "shark tank" with every player that has been playing since day one. BI6 was my first raid event. I started in the middle of BI5
I know, all the big players are gonna scream to me to build a better base. How? The best base defense weapon, the goliath, was never available to me. Not to mention, the more I do get hit, the quicker I level up. If I lose resources, I have to replace those resources. When I bring them in to the base, I get the points. And again, attacking back is really not an option. At level 28, I just researched FF's, and the only reason I have HH's is the last raid. DU4 is a huge help.
How many of you 29's were attacked by level 35 plus? None. Looks like my generation will be the first.
I really like the idea of the level restructure, but I do not mind it the way it is now, to be honest. But, the new proposed idea here is going to make it WAY worse for people like me. I live in a bubble now because I am constantly attacked. I think since level 24 or so, I have not gone more than 24 hours without being attacked. Even in a no in-sector hitting sector.
Oh well. Life will go on, and I will continue playing. But I am also in a situation where I will never be able to keep up with the players that I am being thrown in with. I can handle getting hit. Been that way for the last couple months. But I thought the level restructure was going to help, not make it worse. I can spend as much as I want, but I still can not geet the good fleets that are being used against me. No matter what I spend.
and too all of u who are saying that all the big people have never been farmed or like the first people that started playing did not have to deal with Strike Cruiser, Dreadnoughts, Dreadnought X and all the other stuff well the only turetts we had were sents and howitzer so it was pretty much the same and we had nothing too look off of like u guys do, u can just go to forms and look at good base designs we had to think of them our selfs so all of u can shut ur mouths. every one saying this is for the big people its not its for the little people so they dont get farmed so kixeye is looking out for u. and making it harder for the big people 33+. and i know i have not spent that much money kixeye but i should be some influence for u all im one of the first 10000 people to play and have been on ur said this hole time. please understand y this will help everyone and make it happen soon please
Basically, a current level 29 is going to be open to all levels higher. They are taking away levels that we can hit below us, but opening us up to everyone above us.
So, again, how is this helping? I say at least make it a few more levels. A level 29 just does not have the fleets of FF's or HH's, let alone everything unlocked for the turrets. Or, at least give us newer players a crack at the strike cruisers and toilets, er goliaths. With this sytem, we will always be at a disadvantage.
"Life is hard. If you are stupid its harder."
Tried alliance, sail under no man's colors but mine, if I dance I will choose the fiddler and the tune.
Current Sector : 362 Sectors Visited : 1,253,433,495,228,382,362,231,290,154,413 Hulls Won : All but limited and Jug X Winner of BI6 in sector 383
Very well made point John.Kixeye has already implemented part of this by removing travel restrictions,this is going to end up just like the tactical lab most aren't going to want it but they are going to do their best to pull a Wizard of Oz on us and try to keep up from looking behind the curtain and blow a bunch of smoke up our ****.Please get back to the basics of what made this game fun.you keep adding stuff thats making the game glitch more and more everyday and at times it becomes totally unplayable.
Current Sector : 362 Sectors Visited : 1,253,433,495,228,382,362,231,290,154,413 Hulls Won : All but limited and Jug X Winner of BI6 in sector 383
you answered your own question. they are not going to want people to quit the game, as you said, thats money down the shithouse
All this is now is a free for all on any 29 and above.Most level 29 players are just now getting DU4 and then almost a month to get all of their towers changed to level 4.What are you guys thinking?This is going to make it even harder on these level of players.I could only imagine the horror a level 29 player will have seeing a dread blitz fleet rolling through their base and cutting through it like butter being spread over dry toast.We are in a **** recession and people don't have the money to coin this crap to just play a free "cough cough yeah right" online social game on Facebook.Get a **** grip Kixeye.
Current Sector : 362 Sectors Visited : 1,253,433,495,228,382,362,231,290,154,413 Hulls Won : All but limited and Jug X Winner of BI6 in sector 383