Damage Protection Rule Changes

  • Rumseeker
    Rumseeker
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 2,893
    Jon Bauer wrote: »
    Ok so my base should be vulnerable if i hit your fleets. Will your fleets appear next to my base for me to kill when you attack my base?

    Too many hit bases and hide behind bubbles or Gollies.

    Im very against buddy bubbling, ask anyone i my home sector. But i fail to see why bubbles and FvF should be linked.

    Actually the fleets do. You have the same opportunity to catch my fleets as I do to catch your base unbubbled. It's fair and that is all anyone expects.

    To me it boils down to those that want to FvF too afraid of being vulnerable while they cost people millions of res and hours of repair without consequences.
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  • Sam Ballard
    Sam Ballard
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 11
    chriss wrote: »
    Great idea and a much needed change. I agree with all of it.

    and a great addition if your in a bubble comms turns off ( no talking) comms warriors be silent
  • crystalclear
    crystalclear
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 124
    Rumseeker give me a break why should I suffer consequences for protecting a friend after my base has been attacked and yet you are saying as base hitters you shouldn't. And no I don't hide behind bubbles if I can catch you i will try and take you out and don't give me the whine about subs either. There are so many who have learnt the skills to get their base fleets away but why should this game revolve around base hitters it's called battle Pirates for a reason stop whining about your base fleets getting hit and play the game whether you are pirate hitting bases or pirate hitting fleets it should be fair to both.
  • Rumseeker
    Rumseeker
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 2,893
    Rumseeker give me a break why should I suffer consequences for protecting a friend after my base has been attacked and yet you are saying as base hitters you shouldn't. And no I don't hide behind bubbles if I can catch you i will try and take you out and don't give me the whine about subs either. There are so many who have learnt the skills to get their base fleets away but why should this game revolve around base hitters it's called battle Pirates for a reason stop whining about your base fleets getting hit and play the game whether you are pirate hitting bases or pirate hitting fleets it should be fair to both.

    Nope, not saying that at all Crystal. Basehitters run the risk of getting caught and hit just like everyone else, only now with this it means that those that choose to attack fleets run that same risk. Just our methods of retribution vary.

    You choose to hit my base fleet and cost me the use of it for 14 hours and the loss of 10+ mill in res, that's fair. So I respond by hitting your base and costing you res and the loss of most things in your base for 4+ hours. It's fair, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

    Problem is all these cry baby FvFers want to sit all snug in their carebear bubbles and hit fleets till they get tired of it and have no consequences fall back on them, except for that brief time when their bubble drops.

    And it's not revolving around base hitters. Now you are trying to make it revolve around FvF by giving them something special. "Protection" from the consequences of their actions.

    And I never whined about my fleets getting hit lol. Playing the game is what it is all about, fair and even for all.. you hit me, I should be able to hit you and vice versa.
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  • crystalclear
    crystalclear
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    Joined Aug 2012 Posts: 124
    Believe me Rumseeker my base gets hit a lot because i don't hide in bubbles and love the challenge of catching base hitters and while base is repairing i get back out there and most people who are like me do the same we don't care about taking hits so don't understand these comments that we hide behind bubble in first place. In fact if you hit my base you can be certain i will be watching and going after you and to be be really fair have seen many who have hit a base run and hide behind buddy bubbles so what consequences do they suffer.
  • Rumseeker
    Rumseeker
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 2,893
    Believe me Rumseeker my base gets hit a lot because i don't hide in bubbles and love the challenge of catching base hitters and while base is repairing i get back out there and most people who are like me do the same we don't care about taking hits so don't understand these comments that we hide behind bubble in first place. In fact if you hit my base you can be certain i will be watching and going after you and to be be really fair have seen many who have hit a base run and hide behind buddy bubbles so what consequences do they suffer.

    THAT is what this fixes.
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  • Michael Peltier
    Michael Peltier
    Greenhorn
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 13
    First off nothing is going to stop buddy bubbles so I suggest you get use to it. Second of all a 1 hour bubble will not allow for a dock to repair. These new rules will only give an advantage to base hitters when it comes to preps. If a raid event occurs and someone wants to torture another player than can coin rockets and literally keep a player from participating. But since coining is business I don't see this changing anytime in the future since the only point of a raid event is to increase revenue for the company. I am in no way shape or form insulting kixeye. Everyone needs to understand kixeye is a company that needs to make money in order to stay in buisness.
  • Ellison
    Ellison
    Greenhorn
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 19
    I think that if you hit another base or fleet from another sector you shouldnt be able to rebubble for 72hrs. That way the bases or fleets can get even and you cant hide. That would be fair for everyone,even the coiners. think about it Kixeye.
  • Rumseeker
    Rumseeker
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 2,893
    Ellison wrote: »
    I think that if you hit another base or fleet from another sector you shouldnt be able to rebubble for 72hrs. That way the bases or fleets can get even and you cant hide. That would be fair for everyone,even the coiners. think about it Kixeye.

    No, that would be stupid. If you could not bubble for 3 days I could make your life hell. What they have proposed here is fine.
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  • jennywang
    jennywang
    Greenhorn
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 1
    One again, Keep working. Thanks. . .
  • Christopher Law
    Christopher Law
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jul 2011 Posts: 560
    Ollie99 wrote: »
    Why not just give the **** dock it's own bubble, so when it receives 25% percent damage it has it's own little bubble inside the base.
    buster.

    id like to expand this idea of the bubble around the docks... maybe setup a proxy alarm around the docks. so when ships get into a certain range of the docks the bubble drops... this would stop bunker busters n rim jobs on docks every 4hrs.. but means docks can be destroyed if someone good enough to send fleets threw the base.....
    The_Zohan lvl 82. 119k ID.. Been around since before the first ever salvage event..... 
  • greenstar
    greenstar
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2011 Posts: 14
    Do you think you can fix the relocate back so we can choose more then 8 rows. I can only jump to all my equals basically now, and anyone below certain levels I play with I cant get to to relocate. Can we scroll to all our friends in the list PLEASE?
    Hailstorm
  • grizzlee
    grizzlee
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 6
    "Proposed New Damage Protection Rules
    Under the new system, there will be four different instances (two different situations) in which a player’s base would receive Damage Protection:

    When a base has suffered 25% - 49% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 12 hours of Damage Protection.
    When a base has suffered 50% - 74% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 24 hours of Damage Protection.
    When a base has suffered 75% - 100% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 36 hours of Damage Protection.
    When a base has been attacked 8 times in four hours (but suffered less than 25% damage), the base will receive 1 hour of Damage Protection.
    "

    - The time changes look good
    - Easier change for the last proposal would be to link protection to dock damage;
    01% - 33% damage = 1 hour
    34% - 66% damage = 4 hours
    above 66% = 8 hour
    These times could be separate from base damage, so would be added to those times
    If someone wanted protection for a bit to redesign their base for example, put your dock out for a friendly hit
    - Remove multiple attack rule completely
  • idglcowboy
    idglcowboy
    Potential Threat
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 56
    This is a good idea. You can still Buddy Bubble, but it will be harder. As for worrying about your dock. Design your base so that it cannot be sniped and they will have to do at least 25% damage to your base to get at it. That is how my base is designed. There seems to be only 1 guy who can get my goodies right now anyway, but I still have a little upgrading to do. But I will soon have the proper fleets to hit him back....lol
  • CurlyPubes
    CurlyPubes
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Feb 2012 Posts: 823
    This change needs to happen like now. There's 2 level 30's in my sector constantly talking trash and bubbling each other. Makes the whole sector look bad.
    SOS? Sorry, my magic fleet that sucks attackers out of bases and fixes your buildings is repairing.  
  • Ferris_Bueller
    Ferris_Bueller
    Potential Threat
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 38
    If this proposed new rule against players utilizing the two day buddy bubbles is implemented by Kixeye, then how do current Kixeye Battle Pirates go about closing down their Kixeye accounts/ player numbers...?
  • Captain Crapalot
    Captain Crapalot
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 293
    If this proposed new rule against players utilizing the two day buddy bubbles is implemented by Kixeye, then how do current Kixeye Battle Pirates go about closing down their Kixeye accounts/ player numbers...?

    Just go get yourself one of those "hacking"programs that is supposedly available. They will quickly ban you, but it may be fun until you get caught.

    Now I was not serious dude......
  • dgoddard
    dgoddard
    Potential Threat
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 57
    Some of my friends and I who play Battle Pirates are concerned over the proposed
    changes to damage protection. First let me say that I hate buddy bubbling. I feel that it
    is pathetic. Why not remove the ability to buddy bubble altogether. Why keep a rule that
    allows a certain number of entries to trigger a bubble of any amount? Many say the
    need for buddy bubbles is because they are being picked on by higher level
    players..that issue should resolve itself with the new level structure coming. I have
    heard the concerns about certain buildings being sniped or rocketed repeatedly, but I do
    not feel this warrants a 1 hour auto-bubble based on entries into a base. Those who
    play this way will simply come back in 1 hour and snipe/rocket again. There are ways
    around this....as you will see below in my suggested system.
    Another concern with your proposed damage protection rules changes is that the
    bubble length for %ʼs of damage have been lowered and would begin immediately
    following the hit. Battle Pirates has a diverse group of players, from all over the world,
    with all different kinds of schedules within which to play the game. If one was hit and
    their base damaged to 40% right after they log out for the night, or while they are at
    work for the day they would receive a 12 hour bubble. But if that player doesnʼt get back
    online for 8 hours to hit repair they know have a base that would be severely crippled
    when their bubble pops. Why not allow for the damage protection to fit the actual
    damage to the base, and for an appropriate amount of time for adequate repairs to be
    finished. Again I have a proposal that could allow for this.
    I am also concerned about why protection bubbles would pop if one attacks a fleet.
    Kixeye preaches teamwork and alliances.....however if my base is hit and I repair my
    docks....I may still have over a day until my base is repaired. At the minimum I have
    probably 8 hours left on my OP and around 2 hours on my turrets. I can salvage for a
    bit, but then will be full again. Now what? I can no longer be a help to my team/alliance
    in defending our turf, because if hit a fleet then my base is open and badly damaged
    still. This will essentially put players out of the game for 6-12 hours every time they get
    their base significantly hit. I have heard that this rule was proposed due to some living in
    buddy bubbles while hitting fleets all day long. Eliminating buddy bubbles would prevent
    this scenario and my proposal would give people wanting to abuse their bubble a limited
    amount of time in which to do such a thing, besides getting hit by someone fvf, one
    should be ready to fight. Only the losers are complaining that their better skilled
    opponent is bubbled.
    Why not go with a system like the one that follows;
    No number of entries will auto-trigger a bubble.
    Any attack on a base that yields 30% or more damage would result in an immediate
    bubble. Once the player logs into his/her account and hits the repair button their base
    would have a bubble for the duration of the time it takes to repair all buildings to 100%,
    or until that player either uses coins to speed up their base to 100% health or until that
    player attacks another playerʼs base, but NOT if they attack another playerʼs fleet.
  • Sea Wench
    Sea Wench
    Greenhorn
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 4
    Why can't Kixeye just make i so bases start to auto-repair after being attacked? That way he protection bubble length can remain short as they propose and players are not penalized for having to work or sleep. The base will always be repaird by the time the DP bubble drops.
    They have already put this DP system into place...now it just needs tweeking.
  • Sea Wench
    Sea Wench
    Greenhorn
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 4
    Is this thread closed for discussion?
  • dirtracer
    dirtracer
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    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 79
    I like the elimination of buddy bubbles. However, 12 hours is not enough.

    I have to work for a living, as do most other players. I can not sit at home, and play on mom and dads credit card. So, if I get hit, take 40% damage, that bubble will be gone before I get a chance to get back and log back in. Work and sleep are needed.

    The majority of the player base is only able to play for a couple hours each day. I am one of those. It is 18 hours now for 25%, which in my mind is about right. Gives me achance to at least attempt to repair before being hit again.
  • Highlander76
    Highlander76
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 2
    Agree 100%! If you can't get on every 12 hrs or so, you run the risk of having your bubble expire before you even know that you've been attacked! The protection clock should NOT start until you log on. I work 2 jobs, 3rd shift full time, and am lucky if I can check my base daily, not uncommon to go 2-3 days w/o playing. Also when I go on vacation, I'm not even close to computer for 4 days or more, leaving my base open to multiple attacks, and no chance to repair. Change things or you're going to start seeing a lot of players abandon the game.
  • jonny cabbage
    jonny cabbage
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 1,345
    Agree 100%! If you can't get on every 12 hrs or so, you run the risk of having your bubble expire before you even know that you've been attacked! The protection clock should NOT start until you log on. I work 2 jobs, 3rd shift full time, and am lucky if I can check my base daily, not uncommon to go 2-3 days w/o playing. Also when I go on vacation, I'm not even close to computer for 4 days or more, leaving my base open to multiple attacks, and no chance to repair. Change things or you're going to start seeing a lot of players abandon the game.


    agree 100%, will also eliminate the problem of unbubbled dead bases
     
  • Bryan Luke Spicer
    Bryan Luke Spicer
    Greenhorn
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 1
    Ok, what if you have your little alliance and there are about 7 lvl 35 players who can each best your whole alliance and are just in your sector to cause trouble?
    Their conduct on the comms suck and they pick targets and keep on hitting them the second the bubble pops. What are you going to do about this? I recommend you prevent in sector attacks and make it sector vs sector only. Trust me sectors fight all the time.

    I can handle getting nailed in combat, (cant wait for this new limit in levels to happen) but Kixeye needs an instant report option, type the player id in and it sends a report to a moderator. Mainly if the player is bullying people on comms you can get rid of it. I don't think Kixeye wants players quitting cause of idiots like that. costs kixeye money they could make and could give their game a bad rep. There could be a limit of reports you can file on a player in a day. One or two times per day could work. More work for kixeye, but if there is paying customers, it is worth it to them. I ask you to do this Kixeye, we need to nip this in the bud.
  • Smokin' Joe
    Smokin' Joe
    Master Tactician
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 2,254
    Ok, what if you have your little alliance and there are about 7 lvl 35 players who can each best your whole alliance and are just in your sector to cause trouble?
    Their conduct on the comms suck and they pick targets and keep on hitting them the second the bubble pops. What are you going to do about this? I recommend you prevent in sector attacks and make it sector vs sector only. Trust me sectors fight all the time.

    I can handle getting nailed in combat, (cant wait for this new limit in levels to happen) but Kixeye needs an instant report option, type the player id in and it sends a report to a moderator. Mainly if the player is bullying people on comms you can get rid of it. I don't think Kixeye wants players quitting cause of idiots like that. costs kixeye money they could make and could give their game a bad rep. There could be a limit of reports you can file on a player in a day. One or two times per day could work. More work for kixeye, but if there is paying customers, it is worth it to them. I ask you to do this Kixeye, we need to nip this in the bud.


    omg there is no bullying in this game... its a pirate war game.. if you cant handle it then go play something else

  • Andy Nash
    Andy Nash
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Oct 2011 Posts: 812
    Ok, what if you have your little alliance and there are about 7 lvl 35 players who can each best your whole alliance and are just in your sector to cause trouble?
    Their conduct on the comms suck and they pick targets and keep on hitting them the second the bubble pops. What are you going to do about this? I recommend you prevent in sector attacks and make it sector vs sector only. Trust me sectors fight all the time.

    I can handle getting nailed in combat, (cant wait for this new limit in levels to happen) but Kixeye needs an instant report option, type the player id in and it sends a report to a moderator. Mainly if the player is bullying people on comms you can get rid of it. I don't think Kixeye wants players quitting cause of idiots like that. costs kixeye money they could make and could give their game a bad rep. There could be a limit of reports you can file on a player in a day. One or two times per day could work. More work for kixeye, but if there is paying customers, it is worth it to them. I ask you to do this Kixeye, we need to nip this in the bud.

    I am NOT 35 (5M from 34) and not 7 people..... and owning your sector best of luck if 7 people higher then me come LOL.....
    BEASTIE wrote: »
    Did you just really say that? You are so guilty of IGNORANT DOUCHE BAGGERY

    CM
  • Ferris_Bueller
    Ferris_Bueller
    Potential Threat
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 38
    dirtracer wrote: »
    I like the elimination of buddy bubbles. However, 12 hours is not enough.

    I have to work for a living, as do most other players. I can not sit at home, and play on mom and dads credit card. So, if I get hit, take 40% damage, that bubble will be gone before I get a chance to get back and log back in. Work and sleep are needed.

    The majority of the player base is only able to play for a couple hours each day. I am one of those. It is 18 hours now for 25%, which in my mind is about right. Gives me achance to at least attempt to repair before being hit again.


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  • Ferris_Bueller
    Ferris_Bueller
    Potential Threat
    Joined Sep 2011 Posts: 38
    SmokinJoe wrote: »
    omg there is no bullying in this game... its a pirate war game.. if you cant handle it then go play something else

    There isn't any bullying in this game, as long as the 2 day bubbles are in play...it is a pirate war game...if you pansies can't handle having your large fleets sank by pred sub fleets, then go play with your dolls or something.

    Just sayin'...
  • silly
    silly
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2011 Posts: 406
    Omg ppl complaining about in sector attack's. That was a part of the game from the start, get over it. If you can get rid of the 10 plus 2 day bubble would be great, if anything change it to a 6 hour cool down period. That way everyone has a chance of getting even and the bb's feel they have something too.
  • Ironclad
    Ironclad
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 560
    Leaving Battle Pirates (Damage Protection Rules Changes)
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    LMAO all of 4 people in that group you are a lvl32 according to the picture on that page are you not willing to design your base to make it as difficult and costly to the enemy??
    OR (and this is probably most likely) you are a bubblewarrior who hides behind it to UNLEASH THE COMSCANNON because someone cant get you under your buddy bubble


    seems **** getting real for all these buddy bubblers and looks like its going to be a thing of the past
    So coining is cheating is it??  REMEMBER I coin so YOU can play for free noob!!!!

    EVERY TIME I SEE A PLAYER COMPLAINING IN THE FORUM ABOUT BEING 20 LEVELS LOWER AND BEING ATTACKED I DESTROY 20 LEVEL 50 BASES

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