So essentially no one can help anyone in this game and no one should expect bugs to be fixed so the game is actually playable and no one but the higher players should matter at all...is that what you are getting at?
No I'm saying if you hit another player you should be ready for retalliation. Noones saying you cant help, just expect retalliation.
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No I'm saying if you hit another player you should be ready for retalliation. Noones saying you cant help, just expect retalliation.
I don't hit bases, you can't catch their fleets because of the sniping, Read the first 90 posts of this thread they are all about people getting nuked in the exact way you are saying that it doesn't happen. I think you are the one living in a bubble the reality is if this change goes live battle pirates is over for everyone but the elite few at the top of the food chain.
who gives a ****.. its only a game and sooo many out there.. this one is getting boring and game
play sucks!
the hardcore players are pervs that have no real life... only virtual...
bye!
I don't hit bases, you can't catch their fleets because of the sniping, Read the first 90 posts of this thread they are all about people getting nuked in the exact way you are saying that it doesn't happen. I think you are the one living in a bubble the reality is if this change goes live battle pirates is over for everyone but the elite few at the top of the food chain.
Lol nope sorry dont live in a bubble. I travel every single week to a new sector and have never heard someone say on comms "this person is nuking my dock every 2 1/2 hours to keep my dock from ever repairing!"
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Considering i have been a farm most of the game and prob still am. I don't buddy bubble but i do have a ? are you gonna change the set back thing when a player gets rim job'd can set back research or upgrade up to 2 days. a rim job does less than 25 % damage. and considering the way it will go now, all someone has to do is rim job or kill someones dock every hour and with the new set up can literally stop peoples growth completely. like dead in the water. Yes i agree with the no bubble thing for 10 hits just wondering if kixeye has thought of that?
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Greeting Captains, we’ve received substantial feedback from the Community that the current Damage Protection rules foster an environment that encourages “Buddy Bubbling.” We gone back to the drawing table and developed a new Damage Protection System that we hope balances the game for everyone. Read the details below and we look forward to reading your thoughts.
Why change the Damage Protection rules?
With the current set of rules, players are able to indefinitely hide behind the damage protection bubble by using the “Buddy Bubble” exploit. Obviously, this is not the desired game experience, and a tweak to the rules can prevent it.
Proposed New Damage Protection Rules
Under the new system, there will be four different instances (two different situations) in which a player’s base would receive Damage Protection:
When a base has suffered 25% - 49% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 12 hours of Damage Protection.
When a base has suffered 50% - 74% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 24 hours of Damage Protection.
When a base has suffered 75% - 100% damage at the end of an attack, the base will receive 36 hours of Damage Protection.
When a base has been attacked 8 times in four hours (but suffered less than 25% damage), the base will receive 1 hour of Damage Protection.
For the last rule of Damage Protection, we feel it’s still necessary to allow players the one-hour of protection for those that are repeatedly getting their docks hit with rockets and/or snipers (SFB3). Also, if you attack another player’s fleets or base, the number of attacks made against you within the past four hours will be reset to zero and remove the bubble from your base (if already under Damage Protection).
Q: I need to buddy bubble so I can build/upgrade my buildings; how will I make any progress?
A: There’s no challenge in a game where players are immune to penalties. Suffering delays to build times is part of the game; however, there are things that you can do such as relocating to a sector that does not have as much base hitting, or join an alliance where other players will take you under their wing.
Q: Will you be changing how long it takes for certain buildings to repair like the Dock or the Launchpad?
A: Currently there are no plans to change the repair times for any buildings; however, after the new Damage Protection System goes live, we will closely monitor the situation and see if any changes need to be made.
Q: My Dock is going to get pummeled all the time; how will I be able to launch my fleets?
A: If players are plotting against you, recruit some allies or join an existing group. Players will be much less likely to continuously attack your dock if they know that your allies will retaliate against them. There’s strength in numbers.
Lol nope sorry dont live in a bubble. I travel every single week to a new sector and have never heard someone say on comms "this person is nuking my dock every 2 1/2 hours to keep my dock from ever repairing!"
Maybe because you change sectors every week you don't really get to know anyone that way nor stay someplace long enough to care about the other players. I have been in the same sector for going on probably 5 months we are constantly getting hit numerous times a day by the same people over and over and over again. All level 33+ where we do not stand a chance against them and where their bases are essentially untouchable even to players their level and better because even if you do hit them they just coin it away. I left my bubble down yesterday because I was too sick to get on and play got hit by the same person TWICE in the same day because with me not being on people could only keep him off me for an hour. He nuked my dock both times. This person who did this does it to people ALL DAY EVERY DAY. Along with several others. I am sorry but it is happening and for those of us who can't even retaliate the bubble is the only protection we have from these bullies.
Maybe because you change sectors every week you don't really get to know anyone that way nor stay someplace long enough to care about the other players. I have been in the same sector for going on probably 5 months we are constantly getting hit numerous times a day by the same people over and over and over again. All level 33+ where we do not stand a chance against them and where their bases are essentially untouchable even to players their level and better because even if you do hit them they just coin it away. I left my bubble down yesterday because I was too sick to get on and play got hit by the same person TWICE in the same day because with me not being on people could only keep him off me for an hour. He nuked my dock both times. This person who did this does it to people ALL DAY EVERY DAY. Along with several others. I am sorry but it is happening and for those of us who can't even retaliate the bubble is the only protection we have from these bullies.
So he nuked your dock 2 times today, nothing is going to be different with the new system. You want a 4 hour bubble if someone nukes your dock? And how did these people keep him off your base for an hour? I wasnt aware other players could click "defend base" on my base yet. And sorry but you did start playing a game called "Battle Pirates", not sure what you were expecting to get into, people hitting you is part of the game.
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I agree with many others that losing the bubble for FvF is a terrible idea. I also don't understand why the timer starts before the repairs are started? Really unfair to many players. I am not one of them but it is not right. Please polish this up a bit BEFORE you implement it. Thanks.
So right - I have had it happen to me - went away for a few days - got back - been hit - start repair with only a few hours left b4 my bubble gonna pop - base 1/3 healed when got hit again. I refuse to coin the constant glitches Kixeye serve up - so - too bad so sad for me. Bubble timer starts when you hit "repair" much fairer system. Also get rid of Upgrade set back if you are hit. At one time when my sector was having a great battle with neighbours my 11 day upgrade took 20+ days to complete.
So he nuked your dock 2 times today, nothing is going to be different with the new system. You want a 4 hour bubble if someone nukes your dock? And how did these people keep him off your base for an hour? I wasnt aware other players could click "defend base" on my base yet
They hit me 5 times to bubble me for an hour since no one could get his fleet with the set up the way it is now to keep him from going back in and taking out my whole base the first time anyway later on he did get my whole base. I stay bubbled because I CAN NOT ATTACK why the hell should someone be able to come in and take my res and my time on the game away from me when I CAN NOT ATTACK. All I do is salvs and help other people get res that is all the game allows me to do its great that others have full access to everything the game has to offer but I do not along with like 170 other people just on the forum having the EXACT same problems that doesn't count all the others who do not bother with the forum because it is totally pointless to try to tell this company anything they aren't going to fix it. I'm telling you flat out watch and see what happens if this change goes live it will be a ghost town.
They hit me 5 times to bubble me for an hour since no one could get his fleet with the set up the way it is now to keep him from going back in and taking out my whole base the first time anyway later on he did get my whole base. I stay bubbled because I CAN NOT ATTACK why the hell should someone be able to come in and take my res and my time on the game away from me when I CAN NOT ATTACK. All I do is salvs and help other people get res that is all the game allows me to do its great that others have full access to everything the game has to offer but I do not along with like 170 other people just on the forum having the EXACT same problems that doesn't count all the others who do not bother with the forum because it is totally pointless to try to tell this company anything they aren't going to fix it. I'm telling you flat out watch and see what happens if this change goes live it will be a ghost town.
Because the game is called Battle Pirates, get used to getting hit or quit the game. I dont start playing battle games with the expectation to be left alone. Personally I believe you to be a liar. You said he attacked you twice, both times nuked your dock. This post you say he nuked your dock first hit then killed your entire base the 2nd hit. So when exactly did he nuke your dock the 2nd time? When he was destroying your base he thought it be a good idea to nuke your dock that was going to get killed anyways?
Desert_Warfare Level 67 Originated in 142 Currently in 191
Because the game is called Battle Pirates, get used to getting hit or quit the game. I dont start playing battle games with the expectation to be left alone.
You can hit bases though I CAN'T...Do you have a learning disorder or something I am against this because of the glitches in the game that prevent me from being able to battle. How hard is that to understand?
You can hit bases though I CAN'T...Do you have a learning disorder or something I am against this because of the glitches in the game that prevent me from being able to battle. How hard is that to understand?
Yep, I know what type of player you are, the kind that hides in a bubble and talks trash about other people on comms throwing personal insults around, no wonder you get hit.
Desert_Warfare Level 67 Originated in 142 Currently in 191
Yep, I know what type of player you are, the kind that hides in a bubble and talks trash about other people on comms throwing personal insults around, no wonder you get hit.
No actually quite the opposite ask Shadow I am the one always helping other people who lives in a bubble because of the glitches in the game because other wise I can't even play at all. Someone needs help getting resources I'm usually the first one there to open salvs for them and will do so for hours if need be. Someone getting hit yes I send my fvf out to try to limit the damage done to them not that you can ever actually catch anyone but I still try to help. I can not do base battles because of the glitches in the game so I can't hit anyone's base ever so what reason is their for them to hit mine? I am one of the nicest people you will ever meet on this game and in real life for that matter but no I do not feel like bending over and taking it up the rump because the developers will not take the time to fix the problems with the game because they make money off of people losing everything who have more money than brains. I won't coin until the game is fixed so I don't matter to them. I do not insult anyone in fact I am usually the one getting everyone to calm down and stop fighting in comms. Sorry you are so quick to judge others but I have legitimate concerns about this going live and I have the right to voice them without someone treating me like I am a moron just because it goes against what they want the game to be. I'm so glad you are a big enough to hold you own and can retaliate against those who do hit you some of us do not have that luxury thanks to glitches and we deserve a say in this too.
No actually quite the opposite ask Shadow I am the one always helping other people who lives in a bubble because of the glitches in the game because other wise I can't even play at all.
Sounds like you need to submit a ticket to Kixeye then.
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No actually quite the opposite ask Shadow I am the one always helping other people who lives in a bubble because of the glitches in the game because other wise I can't even play at all. Someone needs help getting resources I'm usually the first one there to open salvs for them and will do so for hours if need be. Someone getting hit yes I send my fvf out to try to limit the damage done to them not that you can ever actually catch anyone but I still try to help. I can not do base battles because of the glitches in the game so I can't hit anyone's base ever so what reason is their for them to hit mine? I am one of the nicest people you will ever meet on this game and in real life for that matter but no I do not feel like bending over and taking it up the rump because the developers will not take the time to fix the problems with the game because they make money off of people losing everything who have more money than brains. I won't coin until the game is fixed so I don't matter to them. I do not insult anyone in fact I am usually the one getting everyone to calm down and stop fighting in comms. Sorry you are so quick to judge others but I have legitimate concerns about this going live and I have the right to voice them without someone treating me like I am a moron just because it goes against what they want the game to be. I'm so glad you are a big enough to hold you own and can retaliate against those who do hit you some of us do not have that luxury thanks to glitches and we deserve a say in this too.
Just because your nice is no reason to not get hit in a battle game.
Desert_Warfare Level 67 Originated in 142 Currently in 191
Just because your nice is no reason to not get hit in a battle game.
I have submitted at least 50 support tickets over these same issues. No the fact that I can't hit back is the reason why I shouldn't get hit in a battle game. As soon as they fix the base attacks for all of us who can't do them I will gladly lay off but until they do they can not do something like this and have it fair to those who can't hit. It would be one thing if it was just a couple of people here and there but we are talking hundreds of people.
I have submitted at least 50 support tickets over these same issues. No the fact that I can't hit back is the reason why I shouldn't get hit in a battle game. As soon as they fix the base attacks for all of us who can't do them I will gladly lay off but until they do they can not do something like this and have it fair to those who can't hit. It would be one thing if it was just a couple of people here and there but we are talking hundreds of people.
I was mistaken, I thought you were complaining about how the new DP system was set up, not that you were having problems with connecting to battles etc. Glad you like the new system as much as I do
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Roland lets try this analogy I am going to give you a halo game but you don't get any weapons in the game ever could you play it? You would constantly get blown up with no way to defend yourself that is what we are all going through on battle pirates.
Roland lets try this analogy I am going to give you a halo game but you don't get any weapons in the game ever could you play it? You would constantly get blown up with no way to defend yourself that is what we are all going through on battle pirates.
Yea I understand the frustration with connecting to battles. Lets hope they fix it so we can all enjoy the new DP rules
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I was mistaken, I thought you were complaining about how the new DP system was set up, not that you were having problems with connecting to battles etc. Glad you like the new system as much as I do
Actually I think they need to extend the bubble to at least a day if you are hit multiple times like 10 because that way it would give you time to repair your dock if they are just nuking it. I don't care if they get rid of the 2 day bubble I don't care if they make it a little harder to stay bubbled but there still needs to be a way to stay bubbled for those of us who can not hit other people with the intent to do damage to them.
Actually I think they need to extend the bubble to at least a day if you are hit multiple times like 10 because that way it would give you time to repair your dock if they are just nuking it. I don't care if they get rid of the 2 day bubble I don't care if they make it a little harder to stay bubbled but there still needs to be a way to stay bubbled for those of us who can not hit other people with the intent to do damage to them.
sure, I give you that. I could care less how long people are in bubbles if I dont have to worry about them attacking other players (fleets included). Let them stay in a bubble and salvage all day for all I care.
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sure, I give you that. I could care less how long people are in bubbles if I dont have to worry about them attacking other players (fleets included). Let them stay in a bubble and salvage all day for all I care.
My problem with the fleet vs fleet losing the bubble is the salvages...sometimes there is an open one that was left next to someones base, they have fleets out and just don't know or think they are far enough away to not have it attack their fleet when someone goes after the salvage (and yes there are some people who even do it on purpose just to sink peoples res fleets) if something like that happens where you were not intending to attack the fleet it would be pretty crappy to lose your bubble when it wasn't even your fault.
Plus that would totally rule out helping other people defend your sector against others. I'm sure you insector hit just by the way you are talking but where I am we don't we attack the 2 sectors around us and defend our sector against them the best we can taking that aspect out of the game would remove a lot of the fun as well.
They better not get rid of 2 day bubbles till they fix the hailstorms on ships they shoot down every mortor
Mine miss sometimes, well at least in fleet vs fleet can't take them in bases unless I want to lose the whole fleet with doing like no damage to the base
My problem with the fleet vs fleet losing the bubble is the salvages...sometimes there is an open one that was left next to someones base, they have fleets out and just don't know or think they are far enough away to not have it attack their fleet when someone goes after the salvage (and yes there are some people who even do it on purpose just to sink peoples res fleets) if something like that happens where you were not intending to attack the fleet it would be pretty crappy to lose your bubble when it wasn't even your fault.
Plus that would totally rule out helping other people defend your sector against others. I'm sure you insector hit just by the way you are talking but where I am we don't we attack the 2 sectors around us and defend our sector against them the best we can taking that aspect out of the game would remove a lot of the fun as well.
Its like Rumseeker said earlier, its like you get into a fight with my friend, I dont expect to jump in and kick you in the nuts without getting hit back.
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Its like Rumseeker said earlier, its like you get into a fight with my friend, I dont expect to jump in and kick you in the nuts without getting hit back.
However just try looking at it from the other side if the other friend was already hit especially by the same person they deserve a chance to hit back. If you take away bubbles for fleet vs fleet you really can't do anything without being hit again right away and people aren't going to want to play a game even a battle game with no way to be able to hit back at all or work together for those of us who do enjoy that. I just honestly feel that there are a lot more people who want it the other way where they can at least attack fleets while under damage protection because other wise the game play is extremely limited while you are trying to do repairs. People aren't going to want to play if they can't do anything without getting hit over and over and over again. Its just common sense. You need to think of it from a business stand point. You have 50 people paying 500 dollars a month or you have 10000 people paying 200 dollars a month which one is actually making you more money? By only catering to the biggest players and biggest spenders they are actually going to end up losing a lot of money and players. The game needs balance. I say yes if you go attack someone base your bubble pops and unless there is damage done to your base you shouldn't be able to get it back like a cool off period. By all means you go around hitting miners and other fleets just sitting out for no reason other than to do damage lose your bubble but if you are just out salving or defending yourself or someone else from an attack you shouldn't lose your bubble for that because it makes the game fun, it gives people something to do and enjoy. I know its a battle game but there still has to be balance to it.
To be honest the big players have gotten greedy they think they are the only ones entitled to play the game and that doesn't work from a business point because then new players will never put money into the game.
I think I have a strategy that will make kixeye very happy.
A group of friends and I are going to hit a bunch of neighboring bases. But before we start hitting bases or fleets, we send our mercs (if you can actually launch one) or other base fleets to the neighbors who typically defend the sector. We do as much dmg as possible, doesn't matter if we go over 25% because we're just trying to dmg as many turrets as possible to put them in a bubble. Then we go on hitting our actual targets. If the typical defenders come to help, they either need to coin repairs on their base, or they won't actually hit our attacking fleets because their base is now vulnerable. So, if a defender is not a coiner, he/she is locked in their base and we don't need to worry about them attacking us for the duration of our attack. OR, if they do hit us, then their base is now our primary target. Either way, it is a win, win for the people who put the defenders in the bubble.
Yeah, this bubble plan doesn't favor coiners at all. Nice job kixeye!
On a side note - I agree, hitting a base or fleet and then hiding in a bubble is pathetic and has been abused. However, like when I first started and didn't have any friends outside of the sector I was in, how exactly do you escape a bully who continually pounds your base like clockwork when your bubble drops? Relocating isn't an option, especially now that 1-99 sectors in 100 sector chucks are open for attack. There has to be a happy medium.
Use some common sense with the length of time a base gets bubbled, Kixeye. Bubble times need to match up with base and defending fleet repair times, at least. A base with 49% damage will not self-repair in 12 hours, and will be more vulnerable for the next attack. Unless of course you are trying to force everyone to coin repairs to their base in order to be ready for the next attack. And losing protection for fleet vs fleet battles will keep alliances from being able to defend each other without sacrificing their own base, so you're working against the alliances you tell people to join for protection! Nice work. Like I said, try using a little common sense instead of just going overboard with every single change you make to this game. It's really getting old in a hurry.
lol....so come out with the alliance feature already. Alliances are useless now since there is no way to defend each other in the alliance. That's the only way this is going to work.
We already answered the concern in the Q&A: join an alliance. There is safety in numbers. The official Alliance feature is currently in development and there will certainly be a desire for all level of players in an Alliance.
No I'm saying if you hit another player you should be ready for retalliation. Noones saying you cant help, just expect retalliation.
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play sucks!
the hardcore players are pervs that have no real life... only virtual...
bye!
Lol nope sorry dont live in a bubble. I travel every single week to a new sector and have never heard someone say on comms "this person is nuking my dock every 2 1/2 hours to keep my dock from ever repairing!"
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So he nuked your dock 2 times today, nothing is going to be different with the new system. You want a 4 hour bubble if someone nukes your dock? And how did these people keep him off your base for an hour? I wasnt aware other players could click "defend base" on my base yet. And sorry but you did start playing a game called "Battle Pirates", not sure what you were expecting to get into, people hitting you is part of the game.
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They hit me 5 times to bubble me for an hour since no one could get his fleet with the set up the way it is now to keep him from going back in and taking out my whole base the first time anyway later on he did get my whole base. I stay bubbled because I CAN NOT ATTACK why the hell should someone be able to come in and take my res and my time on the game away from me when I CAN NOT ATTACK. All I do is salvs and help other people get res that is all the game allows me to do its great that others have full access to everything the game has to offer but I do not along with like 170 other people just on the forum having the EXACT same problems that doesn't count all the others who do not bother with the forum because it is totally pointless to try to tell this company anything they aren't going to fix it. I'm telling you flat out watch and see what happens if this change goes live it will be a ghost town.
Because the game is called Battle Pirates, get used to getting hit or quit the game. I dont start playing battle games with the expectation to be left alone. Personally I believe you to be a liar. You said he attacked you twice, both times nuked your dock. This post you say he nuked your dock first hit then killed your entire base the 2nd hit. So when exactly did he nuke your dock the 2nd time? When he was destroying your base he thought it be a good idea to nuke your dock that was going to get killed anyways?
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You can hit bases though I CAN'T...Do you have a learning disorder or something I am against this because of the glitches in the game that prevent me from being able to battle. How hard is that to understand?
Yep, I know what type of player you are, the kind that hides in a bubble and talks trash about other people on comms throwing personal insults around, no wonder you get hit.
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Currently in 191
No actually quite the opposite ask Shadow I am the one always helping other people who lives in a bubble because of the glitches in the game because other wise I can't even play at all. Someone needs help getting resources I'm usually the first one there to open salvs for them and will do so for hours if need be. Someone getting hit yes I send my fvf out to try to limit the damage done to them not that you can ever actually catch anyone but I still try to help. I can not do base battles because of the glitches in the game so I can't hit anyone's base ever so what reason is their for them to hit mine? I am one of the nicest people you will ever meet on this game and in real life for that matter but no I do not feel like bending over and taking it up the rump because the developers will not take the time to fix the problems with the game because they make money off of people losing everything who have more money than brains. I won't coin until the game is fixed so I don't matter to them. I do not insult anyone in fact I am usually the one getting everyone to calm down and stop fighting in comms. Sorry you are so quick to judge others but I have legitimate concerns about this going live and I have the right to voice them without someone treating me like I am a moron just because it goes against what they want the game to be. I'm so glad you are a big enough to hold you own and can retaliate against those who do hit you some of us do not have that luxury thanks to glitches and we deserve a say in this too.
Sounds like you need to submit a ticket to Kixeye then.
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Just because your nice is no reason to not get hit in a battle game.
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I have submitted at least 50 support tickets over these same issues. No the fact that I can't hit back is the reason why I shouldn't get hit in a battle game. As soon as they fix the base attacks for all of us who can't do them I will gladly lay off but until they do they can not do something like this and have it fair to those who can't hit. It would be one thing if it was just a couple of people here and there but we are talking hundreds of people.
I was mistaken, I thought you were complaining about how the new DP system was set up, not that you were having problems with connecting to battles etc. Glad you like the new system as much as I do
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Yea I understand the frustration with connecting to battles. Lets hope they fix it so we can all enjoy the new DP rules
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Actually I think they need to extend the bubble to at least a day if you are hit multiple times like 10 because that way it would give you time to repair your dock if they are just nuking it. I don't care if they get rid of the 2 day bubble I don't care if they make it a little harder to stay bubbled but there still needs to be a way to stay bubbled for those of us who can not hit other people with the intent to do damage to them.
sure, I give you that. I could care less how long people are in bubbles if I dont have to worry about them attacking other players (fleets included). Let them stay in a bubble and salvage all day for all I care.
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My problem with the fleet vs fleet losing the bubble is the salvages...sometimes there is an open one that was left next to someones base, they have fleets out and just don't know or think they are far enough away to not have it attack their fleet when someone goes after the salvage (and yes there are some people who even do it on purpose just to sink peoples res fleets) if something like that happens where you were not intending to attack the fleet it would be pretty crappy to lose your bubble when it wasn't even your fault.
Plus that would totally rule out helping other people defend your sector against others. I'm sure you insector hit just by the way you are talking but where I am we don't we attack the 2 sectors around us and defend our sector against them the best we can taking that aspect out of the game would remove a lot of the fun as well.
Mine miss sometimes, well at least in fleet vs fleet can't take them in bases unless I want to lose the whole fleet with doing like no damage to the base
Its like Rumseeker said earlier, its like you get into a fight with my friend, I dont expect to jump in and kick you in the nuts without getting hit back.
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However just try looking at it from the other side if the other friend was already hit especially by the same person they deserve a chance to hit back. If you take away bubbles for fleet vs fleet you really can't do anything without being hit again right away and people aren't going to want to play a game even a battle game with no way to be able to hit back at all or work together for those of us who do enjoy that. I just honestly feel that there are a lot more people who want it the other way where they can at least attack fleets while under damage protection because other wise the game play is extremely limited while you are trying to do repairs. People aren't going to want to play if they can't do anything without getting hit over and over and over again. Its just common sense. You need to think of it from a business stand point. You have 50 people paying 500 dollars a month or you have 10000 people paying 200 dollars a month which one is actually making you more money? By only catering to the biggest players and biggest spenders they are actually going to end up losing a lot of money and players. The game needs balance. I say yes if you go attack someone base your bubble pops and unless there is damage done to your base you shouldn't be able to get it back like a cool off period. By all means you go around hitting miners and other fleets just sitting out for no reason other than to do damage lose your bubble but if you are just out salving or defending yourself or someone else from an attack you shouldn't lose your bubble for that because it makes the game fun, it gives people something to do and enjoy. I know its a battle game but there still has to be balance to it.
To be honest the big players have gotten greedy they think they are the only ones entitled to play the game and that doesn't work from a business point because then new players will never put money into the game.
A group of friends and I are going to hit a bunch of neighboring bases. But before we start hitting bases or fleets, we send our mercs (if you can actually launch one) or other base fleets to the neighbors who typically defend the sector. We do as much dmg as possible, doesn't matter if we go over 25% because we're just trying to dmg as many turrets as possible to put them in a bubble. Then we go on hitting our actual targets. If the typical defenders come to help, they either need to coin repairs on their base, or they won't actually hit our attacking fleets because their base is now vulnerable. So, if a defender is not a coiner, he/she is locked in their base and we don't need to worry about them attacking us for the duration of our attack. OR, if they do hit us, then their base is now our primary target. Either way, it is a win, win for the people who put the defenders in the bubble.
Yeah, this bubble plan doesn't favor coiners at all. Nice job kixeye!
On a side note - I agree, hitting a base or fleet and then hiding in a bubble is pathetic and has been abused. However, like when I first started and didn't have any friends outside of the sector I was in, how exactly do you escape a bully who continually pounds your base like clockwork when your bubble drops? Relocating isn't an option, especially now that 1-99 sectors in 100 sector chucks are open for attack. There has to be a happy medium.