SO I am just curious....what is peoples stance on paying players
I know what Kix's stance is of course 
but other players.....I dont use my wallet to fight people.....I just wont do it
but it is getting to the point I am simply going to quit because it seems like that is all I fight against anymore.
Example
Rorsche...level 31
Sector 19
is part of the SUPPOSED "Legends" clan (legends at busting out the credit cards now in my mind)
used up 16 hawks in two hours taking back depots.....and was shockingly still attacking each one with 10 hawks at a time
and was using level 6 Hellfires to take the depots rather easily....... level 6???
paid for over a week of upgrade time to take depots back last night because he knew he couldnt do it normally
these are the type of players we have now in WC.......cant play with any skill....just their wallets
any thoughts on how others feel on this stuff?
am I way off base in my thinking
but other players.....I dont use my wallet to fight people.....I just wont do it
but it is getting to the point I am simply going to quit because it seems like that is all I fight against anymore.
Example
Rorsche...level 31
Sector 19
is part of the SUPPOSED "Legends" clan (legends at busting out the credit cards now in my mind)
used up 16 hawks in two hours taking back depots.....and was shockingly still attacking each one with 10 hawks at a time
and was using level 6 Hellfires to take the depots rather easily....... level 6???
paid for over a week of upgrade time to take depots back last night because he knew he couldnt do it normally
these are the type of players we have now in WC.......cant play with any skill....just their wallets
any thoughts on how others feel on this stuff?
am I way off base in my thinking
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thats the 2nd best quote in the WC forums (best one in my sig
my threads: event format unit idea "the beserker" WC LVL 27. WC ID: 348327. sector: 39. alliance: overlords
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The only difference is, is the waiting time..no skill involved in that at all
I f people want to pay for their upgrades then thats up to them..there are plenty who do and also those that dont, it doesnt make a big difference at all
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And when people say "coiners" have no skill, that could very well be true but probably not as a general rule.
Could you imagine the state of the game when everybody has the same level of skill?
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coining doesnt take the THINKING/SKILL factor out- lack of coins doesnt mean u dont know weaknesses/strengths of a base- i buy my repairs when i run out o tanks but i dont need 60 megas to wipe 1 base just bc i buy coins- i bring 3 platoons per base-1 to get sniped 1 to clear mines 1 to wipe it- simple- but bc i buy my repairs it means i dont have any skill in attacking a base? lets live in reality not fantasy land- saying one doesnt have skill bc we choose to spend a lil money is just another one of the lame put downs people use in this game-
coins dont buy skill- true BUT a level 17 knows that air units wipe mortars tanks wipe turrets and mortar baiting is best so how in any way does buying a few coins suddenly make u wc retarded? come on ppl use those brains for a change and think things through
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This results in a laziness that indeed limits the need for them to learn skills/tactics as they have no need for any as their wallet can just repair any failed attempt on a base and they can just attack it again , I have no problem with players that choose to coin for upgrades to advance themselves quickly but coining repairs is lame in my opinion and I personally think that it makes the game a little silly.. I understand the game needs to make money but allowing someone the ability to effectively spam infinite units at a base just because the have a credit card is stupid ..
I play online games on Xbox/PS3 also and if a player was allowed to just run around killing everyone because he had some special perk where he cant die (just because he coined) it would be retarded , and personally that is what you have in WC with certain players able to send in 24 Warhawks (happened to me) within 15mins to level a base ..
All in all I dont mind coiners (the ones who coin for upgrades) but the ones that instant repair units are the ones I have issues with and think they make the game pretty stupid when clearly taking advantage of their wallet .
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explain to me this- how does waiting 5 hours 45 mins per platoon gain u skill? it dont - if you belive that money makes you weaker bc you repair your platoons? again live in reality not fantasy land you think people are going to throw their tanks at a base over and over just bc they have the coin to create more? are u out of ur mind?
spending REAL money on coins is COSTLY but usefull i spend about 10-15 bux a week and that gets me by without waiting all year on platoons- idk why people believe that spending money suddenly drops your iq to the point where u have no skill in taking a base
**** 1 level lower than me used mortar baiting tactics- and retreated my 1/2 health platoons to save some repair time...only took 2 hits- 1 to clear the mines and building shields and 1 to finish it off....**** my coins have really made me a crappy player with 0 skill..i might as well be a noob
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And you are one of the players out there who can actually play and use coins too , hats off to you lol .. But I will not retract what I say as it has been the common sight witnessed by me and many others that players who coin for instant repairs are +not very good at the game .. It dont mean all of you are noobs but showing me a vid of you trashing a base also dont mean that all you coiners are good either .
If you cant see the fact that using credits to repair can make you rely on money instead of skill then you are not being truthful to yourself bud , it is pure logic that if you can buy something then why go through the hassle of dissecting a base worrying about repairs??? It is inevitable that a coiner will chose to cut corners .
As I said I will not brand you all skill-less but I do believe that majority of your kind are .
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tell me how waiting 5 hours 45 mins per platoon gains u skill then u will have me convinced
coins are bought with real cash and are spent sparingly 90% of my alliances buys credits for repairs with these new crappy repai systems but that dont make us any less skillful- who do u think is paying for you to play the game? servers have to be paid for and i dont see kixeye on any charity lists asking for handouts to buy them or pay their employees
if someone is just throwing hundreds of dollars down the drain to repair while throwing 10-20 platoons at a base to wipe it with no concern turn them in for hacking or glitching bc no one in their right mind would do that.
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I understand the game needs to make money as I already said in my earlier post but you being allowed to spam 20+ Wahawks at my base within 15mins is unfair . You see the way you could just throw in your Challs to die in the vid and stand there while you Megas got hit by volleys of mortar shells , that dont bother you as it can be instant repaired but 2 Challs is a hour wait for me plus the damage to the Megas would be another couple hours as well so I would use units that repair faster like GTs and mortar bait while trying take no damage to my Megas, this is because the repairs are a **** for me..
Im telling you there are players out there who just coin for 20+ Elites or 15+ Raptors and will just keep spamming them at your base until you are DP`ed , I know as I have been to various sectors and fought various groups with a number of different styles and a few have been coiners and have all played the same way..
I dont just say this and sit in my base without knowing what I am taking about I have bee around and experienced it first hand, now as I said you and your group may be different from your average coiner but the vast majority out there are the type I am talking about .
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Yeah I noticed all that bud.
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the challengers used turret baiting tactics if u se i lost ONE warhawk and yes i lost 2 challengers (god forbid if i chose to lose 2 challengers vs megas)
had no base defender units? each base is diffrent if i need to make a video to ur very specific standards please let us know
plus lets see 1/2 health on 2 platoons so lets say 1 platoon of megas and 1 elite lost to take a maxed defense base using TURRET BAITING MORTAR BAITING and MINE SWEEPING
my god my credits have made me a complete idiot someone put this "Moderator" on the payroll so he can afford 10 bux on wc once in awhile
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Kixeye staff need to pay bills too.
I have no issue with those that chose to pay in cash vs. time.
Dose it make them a better player or not, who knows or cares.
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that just makes HIM less skillful than me for not having them use your brain bud
and he doesnt buy credits just asked him- hes level 31 without the skill to set base defenders and im level 32 (spending cash on repairs)
so u cant call me less skillful for his own mistake -- give the hamster another credit and get that brain power rolling
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Truth bro, I spend.
Please don't insult my brain power as it does nothing to help your argument.
The higher your skill is the higher is Kixeye's income. So more updates, events and stunning features for us.
Remember:
By raising your skill and fighting coiners you help to make WC better.
if i could hav ein the 2 hits i would have but i would have had to change directions/angles and caused maybe 2-3 more hits risking being sniped and possible have them log online and ruin my farming
quick and efficient (and as LEAST costly as possible) not just throwing megas and hoping for the best
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lol, that might become my new sig line
I will say, I've encountered plenty of paying players (coiners doesn't sound right to me) in BYM who were quite skilled, and used their money to fuel their skills. There's a difference between those who use money for buying resources and those who have fought their way to the top with little to no cash input.
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but the Mods modified it
which of course dilutes the idea of the thread....to me they are wallet warriors because without their credit cards they woudnt be **** in this game
as for the guyy with the video that insists that he is a great player
puh leeze........if you cant manage your repairs....and manage the damage to your platoons....well then yes
you aren't very skilled at all
I attack all the time and am RARELY ever under 70% healthy......why?......because I dont get my platoons beat to crap that I am facing a 5 hour repair
I remember when I first started playing a wallet warrior had to look WAY up to see Pond Scums knees.......the worst thing you could be accused of was being a credit card player.
if you found out someone was a credit card player he used to get pounded on in chat and in game if possible till you shamed them into leaving
The rally cry was EARN YOUR UPGRADES
now it seems like the culture is BUY YOUR UPGRADES
I mean its great for Kix....they are pulling in money hand over fist from the Wallet Warriors.......they keep them weak because they don't actually get better at the game. Why bother watching over your air and being careful when you can simply spend 30-40 FB and buy a new airforce.....RAM THOSE BAD BOYS IN THERE
no lie I had a guy once....I think his screen name was SemperFi....dude lost 18 Raptors on a giant depot of mine in like 10 minutes!!! and was still attacking with more before he was driven off......18 raptors had to be expensive and showed a total lack of skill
just an example of how being a Wallet Warrior just makes you weak......you learn nothing
no they are working on level 4 at the moment i hear they are great though so once i get range maxed i will give them a shot
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