Introduction to Support/Long Range Army

Mark Dusty Morgan · 14 Mar 2012, 10:50PM

Introduction
Majority of the War Commander’s community think that the only units you should use is Megatanks and Cobras which is dead wrong. It is not as effective as using a well balanced army of support vehicles against Rogue Forces or Players. The advantage of playing this way, it allows for you rebound your army faster and to have a lot more flexibility when it comes to defenses guarding the base instead of relying on brute force. Remember there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Useful Units

Rocket Buggy (It speeds allows for it to outpace Mortar Shells, Vehicles, and Infantry.)
Razorbacks (Its range alone allows for it to outrange majority of the obstacles, except for Mortar Towers which can reach them.)
Laser Tanks (Because of its sheer power and range, the laser tanks can be a real life saver when it comes to dealing with Hercules/Infantry/Ambushes.)

What to Use

Razorbacks vs. Buildings, Stand-Ground Infantry or Vehicles, Bunker, and Gun Turrets
Cobras vs. Rhinos/Paladins/Challengers/Megatanks and Mortar Towers
Laser Tanks vs. Infantry, Hercules or Gatling Trucks, Bunker, and Buildings in General

General Tips

If Units are not Stand-Ground, lure them outside the base's defenses.
Use single Rocket Buggy's to pull Tanks from base into Cobra's waiting outside the base.
Use Rocket Buggy to distract Mortars if they can hit Razorbacks while you are aiming for Gun Turret.
Use a single paladin/challenger/megatank to soak up damage for Laser Tanks, while the Laser Tanks deal the damage.
If the enemy has Hercules or Gatling Truck, use a single Cobra to lure the Hercules into Laser Tanks while a single paladin/challenger/megatank soak up the damage.
If the enemy's Hercules or Gatling Truck are Stand-Ground, use Razorbacks to out-range them and destroy them.
Anytime you decide to spring a trap against a unit, place your trap outside the range of Gun Turrets or Mortar Towers.
Never enter the base, use long range support units to deal damage, eliminate the threat of mines inside the base.
Laser Tanks and Razorbacks are Support Vehicles, pair them up with paladin/challenger/megatank to protect them.
When all obstacles are eliminated, use eight laser tanks (With Max Deploy) to finish off the base, it is fast and clean to the boot.

Personal Note: If you have any questions regarding anything I have stated, please ask away and I will be happy to explain to you in detail.

LarsB · 15 Mar 2012, 1:39AM

Cobra vs. Cobra!?

And i'd say Laser tank vs. stand-ground tanks, gun turrets, the rest of the buildings.

I wouldn't use rocket buggies for unit bating, because they're too fast.

And what to do with stand-ground hercules/gatling trucks?

And in this stage of the game, everybody has their units on stnad-ground, so razorbacks/laser tank don't need any support anymore, and they can do it on their own.

And btw, a how will you have space to have and 'a mass of laser tanks', and rocket buggies, and other tanks?

Mark Dusty Morgan · 15 Mar 2012, 4:48AM

LarsB wrote: »

Cobra vs. Cobra!?
That was a simple mistake...

And i'd say Laser tank vs. stand-ground tanks, gun turrets, the rest of the buildings.
I also use my Laser Tanks again Hercules and Infantry, they take them out pretty fast due to Splash Damage only with the aid of single Paladin/Challenger/Megatank. Laser Tanks out-range all other tanks, so the tanks end up in front of the ambush.

I wouldn't use rocket buggies for unit bating, because they're too fast.
That is the idea, because they outpace everything, it allows for you to keep your distance even if you forget about them for a couple of seconds. Plus they extremely cheap to repair if they die.

And what to do with stand-ground hercules/gatling trucks?
Stand-Ground Hercules and Gatling Trucks, I use Razorbacks that out-range.

And in this stage of the game, everybody has their units on stnad-ground, so razorbacks/laser tank don't need any support anymore, and they can do it on their own.
That is true, but still some people don't stand-ground their units. That why it is a good idea to be flexible just in case.

And btw, a how will you have space to have and 'a mass of laser tanks', and rocket buggies, and other tanks?
What I meant by mass was 8 Laser Tanks can be deployed with max deployment. You only need 8 when you have all obstacles taken down, because at max distance, they shred through all infantry that pop out of buildings easily due to the follow up laser not needing recharging. With 8 Razorbacks deploy, 5 Laser Tanks can be deployed with them. When taking out Hercules or Gatling Trucks in a ambush, deploy the single paladin/challenger/megatank first and laser tanks second out of range of Gun Turrets and Mortar Towers, then use a single cobra to lure Hercules or Gatling Trucks into ambush.

LarsB · 15 Mar 2012, 11:25AM

Mark Dusty Morgan wrote: »

That is the idea, because they outpace everything, it allows for you to keep your distance even if you forget about them for a couple of seconds. Plus they extremely cheap to repair if they die.

the point of unit baiting is to use a unit that's about as fast as the units you're baiting. If your baiter is too fast, the baited units will stop following it....

paulmh · 15 Mar 2012, 2:06PM

LarsB wrote: »

the point of unit baiting is to use a unit that's about as fast as the units you're baiting. If your baiter is too fast, the baited units will stop following it....

True, but if you move them in small steps........

LarsB · 15 Mar 2012, 2:07PM

paulmh wrote: »

True, but if you move them in small steps........

it's still better to use a slower unit like a riflemen. you don't have to click to move them all the time, as it won't outrun the baited units.

Mark Dusty Morgan · 15 Mar 2012, 7:06PM

LarsB wrote: »

it's still better to use a slower unit like a riflemen. you don't have to click to move them all the time, as it won't outrun the baited units.

Well it is a matter of preference. I prefer something that is faster than everything else, meaning I can forget about it for a second while I move other units around, micromanaging as a matter of fact.

david t kozich · 20 Mar 2012, 11:49AM

what is wrong with using brute force. if u have the muscle stomp the cat and u dont have 2 take the time 2 skin it.:cool:

LarsB · 20 Mar 2012, 1:45PM

david t kozich wrote: »

what is wrong with using brute force. if u have the muscle stomp the cat and u dont have 2 take the time 2 skin it.:cool:

Kixeye doesn't like brute force, so they try to stop it in any way...

david t kozich · 20 Mar 2012, 4:32PM

i did not want 2 put this out there but here goes. i have 2 depend on brute foece because im disabled. need 2 use a pen 2 peck away at the key board 1 letter at a time[y spelling ig off. takes 4 ever 2 type on forum] and both arms 2 use a track ball[impossable 2 us a mouse]. so multi tasking is not easy 4 me. was praying the laser tank would b a god sent but dont think its much good 4 u guys with 2 hands lol. morter bating is hard 4 me 2 do. gets frustrating knowing of other tatics and being limeted 2 a few. down loaded the spell checker no work re did 3 times no good. hell till some 1 mentioned the snip it in windows 7 could not make a screen shot.
so 4 now look out 4 my maxed out units going 2 stomp some ****.:D

sporty_spartan · 21 Mar 2012, 1:20PM

all this is good of rouges.. you have the liberty to go in as many times as u want.
Same is not true for enemy bases. You have 3 chances b4 u r locked out for an hour. Who will be stupid enuff to have gatlings and herc not paired with mortars. And with mortars it takes away all lightly armoured units. You will need brute force.
Laser tanks are good for the last lap where you have to do mop up. For first 2 attacks u got to use brute force to bring down everything in your path. and that calls for the big boys (MEGA)

sporty_spartan · 21 Mar 2012, 1:25PM

as for baiting.. its a fine line and u got to develop it. As LarS said what can be done with rifle man why waste rocket buggy.
Personally i like sb for baiting. Reason. They have good health combined with decent speed.
2 mortar volleys and rifleman is dead. SB takes good beating b4 dying. Gives you ample time to deal with turrets and other stuff.

Mark Dusty Morgan · 22 Mar 2012, 10:23AM

sporty_spartan wrote: »

as for baiting.. its a fine line and u got to develop it. As LarS said what can be done with rifle man why waste rocket buggy.
Personally i like sb for baiting. Reason. They have good health combined with decent speed.
2 mortar volleys and rifleman is dead. SB takes good beating b4 dying. Gives you ample time to deal with turrets and other stuff.

You do realize I am not saying you have to do it my way, just giving you a guide from my experience and battle strategies. I could have easily not made this guide and kept everything that I learned a secret, only did this to help others who need help.

KissyFace · 22 Mar 2012, 4:38PM

There are many ways to bait. I know, I've tried all those listed here, and more. Being a self taught master baiter for most of my years, I can say that how you want to bait is totally up to you. Let's face facts, it's all about getting what you want without getting caught with your pants down. So however you bait, as long as the result is the same, you're baiting correctly. Have fun.

Changed Man Omar · 23 Mar 2012, 1:02PM

Mark Dusty Morgan wrote: »

You do realize I am not saying you have to do it my way, just giving you a guide from my experience and battle strategies. I could have easily not made this guide and kept everything that I learned a secret, only did this to help others who need help.

sir can i post this to my group wall?i think i like your strategy

martywarner · 24 Mar 2012, 12:56AM

DP rules are not well explained. I am sitting on my hands except for this. Somehow i put someone in dp after knocking down 5 walls and 1 factory. almost 2 hrs dp now

Tom Borland · 24 Mar 2012, 1:14AM

martywarner wrote: »

DP rules are not well explained. I am sitting on my hands except for this. Somehow i put someone in dp after knocking down 5 walls and 1 factory. almost 2 hrs dp now

3 attacks by the same person without any retaliation, within 1 hour: 60 minutes (1hr)
10 attacks without any retaliation: 24hrs
0-49% Base destruction: No DP
50-74% Base destruction: 18hr DP
75%+ Base destruction: 36hr DP

Mark Dusty Morgan · 25 Mar 2012, 4:57PM

Changed Man Omar wrote: »

sir can i post this to my group wall?i think i like your strategy

You may post it on your wall, make sure I get credit for the strategy.

Changed Man Omar · 27 Mar 2012, 1:09AM

i realised lvl 6 lazer got a lill poorer range than lvl 6 razors ...or maybe it is the mortars tthat had better range.any ways i got owned trying to lazor down a turret

KissyFace · 27 Mar 2012, 5:02AM

razors have slightly better range than laser tanks

Mark Dusty Morgan · 27 Mar 2012, 6:30AM

Changed Man Omar wrote: »

i realised lvl 6 lazer got a lill poorer range than lvl 6 razors ...or maybe it is the mortars tthat had better range.any ways i got owned trying to lazor down a turret

You only use aircraft to take out mortars, because it is the safest way to take them down. Just make sure you take out the gun turret with the razorbacks. If the Mortar is firing at your razorbacks, bring a rocket buggy in that can distract the mortar.

stevemac · 24 Apr 2012, 7:54PM

I wish people would read these guides before complaining that WC is broken because they cant play properly.

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Introduction to Support/Long Range Army