Further confirmation

Burmashave
Burmashave
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edited 21 Jan 2012, 11:51PM
I know this point has been made several times. By now we all have seen just how effective Siege Missiles are at attacking a base. This video show the CEO of Kixeye steamrolling through my base with a SFB3/Siege Missile fleet. He used 4 Bunker Buster 3’s prior to this attack. One on my dock and the other 3 on Victory Mortars.

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Dear Swag,

Please do not make any more videos containing such awful misinformation. Even your very own boss knows just how fantastic these weapons are at leveling a base.

Thank you,
Burmashave
Unfortunately, players repeatedly “bubbling” each other are abusing this system.
  • Spack
    Spack
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    willclassic.jpg
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  • Burmashave
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    Spack wrote: »
    willclassic.jpg

    That made me giggle
    Unfortunately, players repeatedly “bubbling” each other are abusing this system.
  • Dread Pyrate Turtle
    Dread Pyrate Turtle
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    Spack wrote: »
    willclassic.jpg
    Bwahahahaha!!!
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  • CookieNinja
    CookieNinja
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    Spack wrote: »
    willclassic.jpg

    lol.
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  • carwynpritchard+1
    carwynpritchard+1
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    will finally learnt how to use his ships lol
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  • Man Tim
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    lolz 3D? nice video too.
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  • Blazing_Darkness
    Blazing_Darkness
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    Spack, did you tell Will Harbin how to successfully attack bases? As I'm sure he was never that good before.
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  • KIXEYE Swag
    KIXEYE Swag
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    Haha, I don't think Will really associates my online name with me. Still, ouch!
  • KIXEYE Swag
    KIXEYE Swag
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    Burmashave wrote: »

    Dear Swag,

    Please do not make any more videos containing such awful misinformation. Even your very own boss knows just how fantastic these weapons are at leveling a base.

    Thank you,
    Burmashave

    I haven't made a video yet using Siege Mortars, I used Shockwaves.
  • Spack
    Spack
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    The M wrote: »
    Spack, did you tell Will Harbin how to successfully attack bases? As I'm sure he was never that good before.

    I might have given him one or two pointers in chat :P He's no where near as bad as people make out... I'm waiting on the wrath of Foley though.
    I haven't made a video yet using Siege Mortars, I used Shockwaves.

    I think he was referring to your missile video and claims they couldn't level a base Nick. That and the fact that his base just got face-rolled with them.
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  • Burmashave
    Burmashave
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    I haven't made a video yet using Siege Mortars, I used Shockwaves.

    Yes, I was in fact referring to the video that you created explaining that splash damage was very important in breaking a base thus missiles would not be effective. My apologies for not being more explicit.
    Unfortunately, players repeatedly “bubbling” each other are abusing this system.
  • DESTRO
    DESTRO
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    will finally learnt how to use his ships lol

    I just left you a present in your base.


    All, I know who Swag is in real life. I don't spend a lot of time on the forums and I don't have a sheet in front of me matching all aliases/handles to real names.
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  • Vancouver Jimmy
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    If he's using bunkers on VM's and docks then he's got lots of room for improvement...
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  • Burmashave
    Burmashave
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    If he's using bunkers on VM's and docks then he's got lots of room for improvement...

    Um.... Not at all. He knew his fleet and what he needed to neutralize in order to be successful. Hitting the dock first was tactically important to prevent fleet launches between missiles. If you look at the video you will notice the ships do hot have Hailstorms on them. This means he HAD to take out as many VM's as he could before his run. Frankly it is a very well executed attack.
    Unfortunately, players repeatedly “bubbling” each other are abusing this system.
  • carwynpritchard+1
    carwynpritchard+1
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    I just left you a present in your base.


    All, I know who Swag is in real life. I don't spend a lot of time on the forums and I don't have a sheet in front of me matching all aliases/handles to real names.


    dang :P that hurt ...... you stopped my hammer head research low blow LOL......

    a video for you know
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  • KIXEYE Swag
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    Burmashave wrote: »
    Yes, I was in fact referring to the video that you created explaining that splash damage was very important in breaking a base thus missiles would not be effective. My apologies for not being more explicit.

    Ah, gotcha. But there are way too many differences between the two videos to make a solid comparison. Will used 4 bunker busters and I only used one. He went for a speed run and I held back to limit the damage I took. His ships took a LOT more damage than mine. The base configuration was very different. I didn't use Hammerheads (that now have more armor and better turning speed).

    I make videos to try and limit any misinformation; what you see is what you get.
  • Vancouver Jimmy
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    oh my bad! He's running the slow hammer and hasn't updated to using anti's.

    Good to know anti's won't be nerf'ed soon cause he don't know about them yet...
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  • Spack
    Spack
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    I just left you a present in your base.


    All, I know who Swag is in real life. I don't spend a lot of time on the forums and I don't have a sheet in front of me matching all aliases/handles to real names.

    I should imagine its hard to miss him in the office with his appearance...Anyway padawan, stop being lazy and using free rockets when you know all those platforms could have been taken from the outside with your missile ships. Alternatively you could have just used the hailstorm ship as I suggested previously and just roll in with one fleet.
    oh my bad! He's running the slow hammer and hasn't updated to using anti's.

    Good to know anti's won't be nerf'ed soon cause he don't know about them yet...

    He knows how to use them just fine he's just **** lazy and decided to use rockets to take out the vms
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  • Blazing_Darkness
    Blazing_Darkness
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    I just left you a present in your base.
    Carwyn gets a present? Where is mine? I think you left your 5 dead battleships at the bottom of my gauntlet, it's been 6 days and you still haven't returned to claim them.

    Anyway put that a side, I'm interested in how your attack 6 days ago went and what was on those battleships. Any info on how the attack went would be appreciated as it all helps to improve my base one way or another.

    Now if I log on tomorrow and my base is destroyed...
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  • GigaPirate
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    I just left you a present in your base.


    All, I know who Swag is in real life. I don't spend a lot of time on the forums and I don't have a sheet in front of me matching all aliases/handles to real names.

    Nice save. Swag is redeemed.
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  • carwynpritchard+1
    carwynpritchard+1
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    The M wrote: »
    Carwyn gets a present? Where is mine? I think you left your 5 dead battleships at the bottom of my gauntlet, it's been 6 days and you still haven't returned to claim them.

    Anyway put that a side, I'm interested in how your attack 6 days ago went and what was on those battleships. Any info on how the attack went would be appreciated as it all helps to improve my base one way or another.

    Now if I log on tomorrow and my base is destroyed...

    i also sank 5 of his battle ships after 4 rockets and now he uses 3 rockets and only looses 1 boat -_- either my base went **** all of a sudden or something is overpowered wink wink
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  • Blazing_Darkness
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    i also sank 5 of his battle ships after 4 rockets and now he uses 3 rockets and only looses 1 boat -_- either my base went **** all of a sudden or something is overpowered wink wink

    So I guess my base is going to be destroyed when I wake up then?
    I think it's all the base attacking lessons Spack has been giving him.
    Spack wrote: »
    Anyway padawan, stop being lazy and using free rockets when you know all those platforms could have been taken from the outside with your missile ships. Alternatively you could have just used the hailstorm ship as I suggested previously and just roll in with one fleet.
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  • Burmashave
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    Ah, gotcha. But there are way too many differences between the two videos to make a solid comparison. Will used 4 bunker busters and I only used one. He went for a speed run and I held back to limit the damage I took. His ships took a LOT more damage than mine. The base configuration was very different. I didn't use Hammerheads (that now have more armor and better turning speed).

    I make videos to try and limit any misinformation; what you see is what you get.

    I do not dispute any of the things you have said here. The message that most of the community received whether by accident or design from your video was that you were saying that missiles were ineffective as a base attack weapon. As a result there was considerable backlash by the community focusing on both your tactics and the base you attacked. As you well know, there have been other videos posted here showing what a Siege Missile/Hailstorm fleet can do. That combo alone would negate the need for the Bunker Busters. In addition those other videos us FF's like you did. My video simply punctuates a very long statement that the community has been saying.

    In my opinion, the video made was premature and incomplete. It showed the weapon's "ineffectiveness" under a very controlled set of circumstances. It was overly reliant on to many variables. Now that the weapon has had some strong "real world" application i think it is obvious what the logical conclusion is. I think it would be fair to offer the community an apology for not fully testing the SFB Missile fleet more extensively before making your video.
    Unfortunately, players repeatedly “bubbling” each other are abusing this system.
  • Smokin' Joe
    Smokin' Joe
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    there is no stopping a siege missile fleet with the boosters... but if the CEO likes them then I doubt any changes will be made. Dont understand the use of bunkerbusters... that fleet when used by someone that knows what they are doing can pick apart any base. ... Im glad someone showed a vid that shows that flack against these missiles is just a waste of a platform...

  • Themistocles
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    Burmashave wrote: »
    I do not dispute any of the things you have said here. The message that most of the community received whether by accident or design from your video was that you were saying that missiles were ineffective as a base attack weapon. As a result there was considerable backlash by the community focusing on both your tactics and the base you attacked. As you well know, there have been other videos posted here showing what a Siege Missile/Hailstorm fleet can do. That combo alone would negate the need for the Bunker Busters. In addition those other videos us FF's like you did. My video simply punctuates a very long statement that the community has been saying.

    In my opinion, the video made was premature and incomplete. It showed the weapon's "ineffectiveness" under a very controlled set of circumstances. It was overly reliant on to many variables. Now that the weapon has had some strong "real world" application i think it is obvious what the logical conclusion is. I think it would be fair to offer the community an apology for not fully testing the SFB Missile fleet more extensively before making your video.

    Missiles were an ineffective base busting weapon.....until now.
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  • DESTRO
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    I agree that there is a slight balance issue in favor of the attacker IF you have all of the advanced tech. I wasn't using run of the mill missles, I was using at least 4 D-55-V on each HH. We will be doing something about this though. Attacking should be harder for a very well though out base.

    Btw, I use the rockets because I like them! They go boom.

    M....sleep tight tonight.
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  • Smokin' Joe
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    Thank you... My base has been picked apart 4 times in the past week... LOL its crazy.. The guy thats hitting me cant stop me and I cant stop him.. It turned into a hit fest...We are just swapping res... his 25 mill for mine.. I have changed my base and done everything I know to do to stop this attack.. so has the guy Im attacking... You get on here and say something you get tons of CRAP from people that dont know what they are talking about... "ADD FLACK" LMFAO Flack in its current spec is USELESS against D55 and the boosters.... Thanks for the REPLY Will!!!!!! Im glad to know you are indeed in touch with the game.

    LOL i can relate to the rockets going BOOOOM.. lol its is pretty cool.

  • carwynpritchard+1
    carwynpritchard+1
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    I agree that there is a slight balance issue in favor of the attacker IF you have all of the advanced tech. I wasn't using run of the mill missles, I was using at least 4 D-55-V on each HH. We will be doing something about this though. Attacking should be harder for a very well though out base.

    Btw, I use the rockets because I like them! They go boom.

    M....sleep tight tonight.

    I try and think my base out strategically but sadly if i add 2 - 4 flaks my base defense would be to low to keep out other fleets such as mortar fleets ...the addition to missiles have made base defenses obsolete and the addition of the 96 range it has made it very hard to come up with a solid design since you need to make more space on each side

    I know paul recee doesn't like the @ design but really do we have to go back to block designs


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    this was my first design (before base attacking) and i would say its the best option atm lol
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  • Shady-Aftermath
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    I agree that there is a slight balance issue in favor of the attacker IF you have all of the advanced tech. I wasn't using run of the mill missles, I was using at least 4 D-55-V on each HH. We will be doing something about this though. Attacking should be harder for a very well though out base.

    Btw, I use the rockets because I like them! They go boom.

    M....sleep tight tonight.
    LOL
    Do me a favor and keep those ships out of my base, they're scary.....
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  • DESTRO
    DESTRO
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    Hey M,

    I think you have some weak points in your base. Just sayin'

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