Its unfair for everyone else as well. but i dont think hhs will become available to us normal people. maybe try relocating to a different sector before then next revenge raid starts. you might have a better chance in a weaker sector.
The differences between HH's and FF's is so slight that it does not matter all that much while still giving the reward for winning the raid some significance.
whe you say only for competition and raid winners what you really mean is CC players.
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I get that low level player don't stand a chance against High level players and CC users, But if you are that low to not even stand a chance of winning, you probably dont deserve a Hammerhead yet..
Also, does anyone know if Hammerhead from the first raid has the same stats as the one from the second raid.. IF they are different, could you post a link or pics showing the differences?
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I get that low level player don't stand a chance against High level players and CC users, But if you are that low to not even stand a chance of winning, you probably dont deserve a Hammerhead yet..
this is my view of the HH, for ever blue print gun there 3 of each time i.e siege cannon there 3 of them so i think there will be 1 more raid and the winner will get HH C then copule of weeks after that they will bring the HH blue print in because there will be A B C blue print for them all
I'd be ok with them being available to the general public. I think though, there should be a third "C" version of it in the next raid. And then, all three hulls should be made available as bp's drops from lvl 9+ salvage. Make it available.. but difficult.
I did over 2 billion resources in raid #2, and was unable to get the win. And this is in a relatively new sector, 485. So it would be nice, if a comparable level of effort could yield a chance at picking it up eventually.
Its unfair for everyone else as well. but i dont think hhs will become available to us normal people. maybe try relocating to a different sector before then next revenge raid starts. you might have a better chance in a weaker sector.
The problem is that is nearly impossible to win against cc players, at last people will left the game, i feel it also unfair.
Hammerhead is better an faster that the FF, and only CC players can get it, at last we must ask for it, but i have clear that i dont wanna spend money here, we all are players, no CC players with high levels ships, and second the ones that are unable to win without using CC, is what i feel.
Any penny in that game for sure from my pocket.
there already is a common version of it. It's called a fortress.....
Is not the same fleet, same weapons, but HH is faster, then other kind of ship, please think about it the next time you post, and dont say false things.
The differences between HH's and FF's is so slight that it does not matter all that much while still giving the reward for winning the raid some significance.
False, FF is slow, and HH is fast, take note what happens with seawolf, a low ship, win against FF because is fast.
I cant understand why dont think twice about the reply, please dont say things that are not true.
i find it funny that non CC players are crying to fair. It's good that KixEye reward it's paying customer. On forums you can read countless posts how non-Cc players call CC players stupid because in the end they will have the same as us. Well..looks like that changed huh? I pray kixEye continues to do this and NEVER makes HH's available to the general public. Way to go Kixeye.
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i find it funny that non CC players are crying to fair. It's good that KixEye reward it's paying customer. On forums you can read countless posts how non-Cc players call CC players stupid because in the end they will have the same as us. Well..looks like that changed huh? I pray kixEye continues to do this and NEVER makes HH's available to the general public. Way to go Kixeye.
well said i dont put money i the game because i dont want to but its the reward for those that do the only way is to be the big dog in a small sector so stop moaning and move
Is not the same fleet, same weapons, but HH is faster, then other kind of ship, please think about it the next time you post, and dont say false things.
Same weapon slots, same specials slots, roughly the same weight, capacity, speed and size.....in other words its the same damned platform. The fact that hammer heads have slightly improved stats and look prettier in comparison to a bog standard fortress is indicative of the effort required to get one. Now before you start claiming someones fallaciously speaking I suggest you get a frigging clue....
Well I find it funny that people are complaining about HH i won it with out being a major coiner...I SPENT 5 coins that is it...I am not in high level sector I am in single digit sector..So saying the HH is only for CC players is not true...If i would have tried even slightly harder I would have made it into top 100...I only played hard for 18 hrs...So kiss my arse the raid is set up fair...If you have not be on the game long enough to research FF yet or have good fleets you should not get it. You can earn it just as I did..Again I really did not even try the first two full days of raid...So stop the complaining and crying and trying to devalue what others have earned..
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....in other words its the same damned platform. The fact that hammer heads have slightly improved stats....
A little contradictory there. Plus... I think the additional turn rate and speed of the HH-B is noticeably superior to that of an FF. Especially looking at the turn rate, I think it's a bit more than just slightly improved stats. The extra potential load is not a fact that can be ignored either.
I have to disagree with allowing the public to have it. Then what's the point of the REV RAID?
Now...if Kixeye did something like that Zynga games or Farmville or whatever...where you can BUY special things with COIN only....
That if you wanted to have it...then I am probably going to be ok with that. But to just let everyone have it?
Why play hard at the Rev Raid then? If it's just going to be available for everyone else.
Everyone's just jealous because you don't have it. But to the winner the spoils of war. Not everyone can have the spoils of war.
You don't play the lottery and say well that's not fair...I didn't win a million bux....and I bought $1000 tickets and that guy only bought 1...where's my money?
It just doesn't work that way.
I agree that the prizes for the comp should stand out with their paintjobs etc, but I'm just saying I'd ALSO like to see those hulls to be available to other players, even if it is through relatively difficult means ( think 15-20 piece T3 BP ).
After winning the red HH, and comming in 2nd for the yellow, ( Still ranked around 60th globaly for it though ). I can confidently say that it would be much easier to collect the 2billion plus resources required for a win in a raid, than it would be to secure 15-20 t3 bps.
Is not the same fleet, same weapons, but HH is faster, then other kind of ship, please think about it the next time you post, and dont say false things.
A little contradictory there. Plus... I think the additional turn rate and speed of the HH-B is noticeably superior to that of an FF. Especially looking at the turn rate, I think it's a bit more than just slightly improved stats. The extra potential load is not a fact that can be ignored either.
I think it's hilarious that you guys are trying to argue with spack on this issue, since he's the only one in this thread with both of the HH ships and can make a valid comparison to the FF. It just makes you two look like a couple of helmet wearing window lickers...
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A little contradictory there. Plus... I think the additional turn rate and speed of the HH-B is noticeably superior to that of an FF. Especially looking at the turn rate, I think it's a bit more than just slightly improved stats. The extra potential load is not a fact that can be ignored either.
Jesus H, it's like trying to edumacate pork.....
Which one of these platforms is the hammerhead based on? *note* speeds, turn rate and armour are all irrelevant as they are variable depending on specials applied.
5) none of the above... It is a completely new platform type with different specials armour and weapon slots.
Anyone who doesn't get it right needs to have an intelligence injection. Now get building your boring grey hammerheads already and quit begging for something you've already got.
whe you say only for competition and raid winners what you really mean is CC players.
i won hammerhead last raid at lvl 23 with no CC, i used 2 fleets of bb's and got 180 mill, we have prob 1 cc player in sector and he didnt bother even though is was about 5 levels higher then me
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Also, does anyone know if Hammerhead from the first raid has the same stats as the one from the second raid.. IF they are different, could you post a link or pics showing the differences?
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I did over 2 billion resources in raid #2, and was unable to get the win. And this is in a relatively new sector, 485. So it would be nice, if a comparable level of effort could yield a chance at picking it up eventually.
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Hammerhead is better an faster that the FF, and only CC players can get it, at last we must ask for it, but i have clear that i dont wanna spend money here, we all are players, no CC players with high levels ships, and second the ones that are unable to win without using CC, is what i feel.
Any penny in that game for sure from my pocket.
Is not the same fleet, same weapons, but HH is faster, then other kind of ship, please think about it the next time you post, and dont say false things.
I cant understand why dont think twice about the reply, please dont say things that are not true.
never ................
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Same weapon slots, same specials slots, roughly the same weight, capacity, speed and size.....in other words its the same damned platform. The fact that hammer heads have slightly improved stats and look prettier in comparison to a bog standard fortress is indicative of the effort required to get one. Now before you start claiming someones fallaciously speaking I suggest you get a frigging clue....
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Level 32 I DID NOT COIN CAUSE I AM PISSED AT KIXEYE FOR NERF HB 3 AND STILL WON...
A little contradictory there. Plus... I think the additional turn rate and speed of the HH-B is noticeably superior to that of an FF. Especially looking at the turn rate, I think it's a bit more than just slightly improved stats. The extra potential load is not a fact that can be ignored either.
Now...if Kixeye did something like that Zynga games or Farmville or whatever...where you can BUY special things with COIN only....
That if you wanted to have it...then I am probably going to be ok with that. But to just let everyone have it?
Why play hard at the Rev Raid then? If it's just going to be available for everyone else.
Everyone's just jealous because you don't have it. But to the winner the spoils of war. Not everyone can have the spoils of war.
You don't play the lottery and say well that's not fair...I didn't win a million bux....and I bought $1000 tickets and that guy only bought 1...where's my money?
It just doesn't work that way.
They are significantly better than an FF. It's an advantage no doubt. They are not all powerful however, so don't lose sleep over it.
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After winning the red HH, and comming in 2nd for the yellow, ( Still ranked around 60th globaly for it though ). I can confidently say that it would be much easier to collect the 2billion plus resources required for a win in a raid, than it would be to secure 15-20 t3 bps.
I think it's hilarious that you guys are trying to argue with spack on this issue, since he's the only one in this thread with both of the HH ships and can make a valid comparison to the FF. It just makes you two look like a couple of helmet wearing window lickers...
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Jesus H, it's like trying to edumacate pork.....
Which one of these platforms is the hammerhead based on? *note* speeds, turn rate and armour are all irrelevant as they are variable depending on specials applied.
1) Leviathan- 5 weapon slots, 3 armour slots, 2 special slots
2) Battle Barge- 4 weapon slots, 2 armour slots, 2 special slots
3) Sea Wolf - 5 weapon slots, 1 armour slot , 3 special slots
4) Fortress- 6 weapon slots, 3 armour slots, 2 special slots
5) none of the above... It is a completely new platform type with different specials armour and weapon slots.
Anyone who doesn't get it right needs to have an intelligence injection. Now get building your boring grey hammerheads already and quit begging for something you've already got.
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i won hammerhead last raid at lvl 23 with no CC, i used 2 fleets of bb's and got 180 mill, we have prob 1 cc player in sector and he didnt bother even though is was about 5 levels higher then me
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