**Battle Pirates: 5 Simple Changes I'd Make Today**

DerpyTheCow

**Battle Pirates: 5 Simple Changes I'd Make Today**

https://youtu.be/4FFlcUP5WOQ

Blackbeard III

Ok.. My comment might not be appreciated, but I'm just going to call spades what they are, as I see them.

Mine queuing: Kix obviously knows this issue, and would rather people coin up the mines if they're desperate.

Ship build tokens: Yes, that could be done (the unticked box by default) Another option is to fart around burning those tokens. Yes, you're going to lose as much ship-build time as it takes to burn them by using them. How many times have we heard folks asking to trade them in for bettr, more current tokens, which will never happen? I always mention this.

Alternatively, can Kix not do a sweep of all accounts of obselete tokens & wipe them out of existence?

Portal repairs: Again, it boils down to desperation. If folks want the portal done faster due to repairs, they have to coin. Brutal point, I know, but hey, it's Kix we're dealing with

Free fleets: Absolutely agree there, & the U1 fleet they handed out recently was far better than U0, as at least it had the CIC & Heavy Weapons fitted. 

Finally, your replay section, and battle starting button: Bang on assessment, perfectly said, my pirating friend.

michaelg21

Some good points here Royce. I don't agree completely with your beef on the free fleets for one reason. Kixeye never used to give free fleets out until fairly recently in their history. I don't find the free fleets very useful. Most of us have already built and upgraded our own fleets and they aren't necessary except for the small number of lower level players. Your point about them not upgrading them is noted. This last time they upgraded them to U1(Obliteratiors included the CIC). Unless they would upgrade them all the way, they are a waste of time for the vast majority of players. Your other points, especially the one about repair times on the portals is well received. The repair time is too long, but if they INSIST on keeping it this long, yes, it should continue to upgrade-just like your ships, etc do when the shipyard is destroyed or the repair continues on your dock when it's damaged. Easy fix for Kixeye.

carebears are food

I would like to see something regarding old ship tokens.
OK so hoping we can have an exchange of tokens from old ships to new current ships might be hoping a little to much but maybe something a little different....

Couple ideas for kix..

maybe an exchange ratio as in you can exchange "X" amount of build tokens for 1 day build token for the same type of fleet..

Another idea have an exchange for repair tokens for that Hull type...ie 1 day build token could be exchanged to 1 hour repair token for that Hull class.

Final idea raid points...simple exchange of "x" token for "x" amount of raid points

Last idea... give us a way to delete them

Final thought...at the end of the day the tokens we all have stored up are now useless in today's game world(excluding current Hull tier tokens we may have laying around) but players earnt these tokens and payed some sort of price for them weather it be with seat time or coins but definitely repairs was payed for tokens at some point. Would just be nice to clear out all the useless tokens as they are just not worth the building the hulls to us them now

Blackbeard III

carebears are food said:

I would like to see something regarding old ship tokens.
OK so hoping we can have an exchange of tokens from old ships to new current ships might be hoping a little to much but maybe something a little different....

Couple ideas for kix..

maybe an exchange ratio as in you can exchange "X" amount of build tokens for 1 day build token for the same type of fleet..

Another idea have an exchange for repair tokens for that Hull type...ie 1 day build token could be exchanged to 1 hour repair token for that Hull class.

Final idea raid points...simple exchange of "x" token for "x" amount of raid points

Last idea... give us a way to delete them

Final thought...at the end of the day the tokens we all have stored up are now useless in today's game world(excluding current Hull tier tokens we may have laying around) but players earnt these tokens and payed some sort of price for them weather it be with seat time or coins but definitely repairs was payed for tokens at some point. Would just be nice to clear out all the useless tokens as they are just not worth the building the hulls to us them now

These are fair considerations about exchanging tokens, that aren't viable in todays' game

A fair time ago, I had a bunch of tokens (most from the FM) & others that were TLC stuff (Heck, I've got tokens Kix GAVE me for a hull I've never been able to claim.!) & I asked CS if they could be exchanged for something more modern, even at a ratio favourable to them

The answer was a resounding no.

Here's the reasoning for this: As you've come back to the game recently, I understand, you wouldn't have the massive collection of older hull-specific tokens (including rank tokens) like many others are just, simply, too lazy to burn up in the shipyard when it's free (yup, players don't want to burn them, they'd rather get the latest & greatest building ASAP, I get that)

So, let's say I have 99 tokens for, 3 types of hulls each, so 297 tokens, & you have none.

I get to redeem tokens I got for FREE, & get to claim, IDK, let's say 20 current hull-specific tokens.

You get nothing, as you have nothing to redeem.

How is that fair for YOU, when I get stuff for free, because I had those tokens gained however I did?

Basically, it's going to break the game economy. And those tokens, Citadel, Monolith, Zelos, Punisher, just for starters, were basically free to get via the FM. Heck, the targets could be done for instant repair with a decent build & good driving!

Lastly.. Umm.. it's PAID, not payed

People have been asking also for a means to delete old tokens, maybe Kix is worried people will accidentally (or drunkenly) delete MODERN tokens instead of the junk, & you know how folks moan about stuff that was their own fault lmao.

My idea of a scan of all accounts & a sweet of all tokens from T8 down would simplify that issue. But that's work for people. You KNOW people don't like extra work, right?

If anything, maybe the tokens could be exchanged for simple resources, with the ability to overfill the warehouses, as you can by scrapping junk.

Sputnik001

carebears are food said:

I would like to see something regarding old ship tokens.
OK so hoping we can have an exchange of tokens from old ships to new current ships might be hoping a little to much but maybe something a little different....

Couple ideas for kix..

maybe an exchange ratio as in you can exchange "X" amount of build tokens for 1 day build token for the same type of fleet..

Another idea have an exchange for repair tokens for that Hull type...ie 1 day build token could be exchanged to 1 hour repair token for that Hull class.

Final idea raid points...simple exchange of "x" token for "x" amount of raid points

Last idea... give us a way to delete them

Final thought...at the end of the day the tokens we all have stored up are now useless in today's game world(excluding current Hull tier tokens we may have laying around) but players earnt these tokens and payed some sort of price for them weather it be with seat time or coins but definitely repairs was payed for tokens at some point. Would just be nice to clear out all the useless tokens as they are just not worth the building the hulls to us them now

I like the exchange for tokens idea.

say if you have 24 monolith build tokens you can trade it for a generic 1 day garrison build token, if you have less than 24, each 1 day monolith token could be a generic 1hr garrison build token. It could also be done for the upgrade tokens as well, 1 day = 1hr generic.

To make players "use" them, they could also have a time frame, say as soon as they are exchanged you have 7 days to use it, or loose it.

But knowing Kix, this would never happen as would be too difficult for them to do, considering all the other issues that are prevalent in the game currently 

carebears are food

@Blackbeard III said:
These are fair considerations about exchanging tokens, that aren't viable in todays' game

A fair time ago, I had a bunch of tokens (most from the FM) & others that were TLC stuff (Heck, I've got tokens Kix GAVE me for a hull I've never been able to claim.!) & I asked CS if they could be exchanged for something more modern, even at a ratio favourable to them

The answer was a resounding no.

Here's the reasoning for this: As you've come back to the game recently, I understand, you wouldn't have the massive collection of older hull-specific tokens (including rank tokens) like many others are just, simply, too lazy to burn up in the shipyard when it's free (yup, players don't want to burn them, they'd rather get the latest & greatest building ASAP, I get that)

So, let's say I have 99 tokens for, 3 types of hulls each, so 297 tokens, & you have none.

I get to redeem tokens I got for FREE, & get to claim, IDK, let's say 20 current hull-specific tokens.

You get nothing, as you have nothing to redeem.

How is that fair for YOU, when I get stuff for free, because I had those tokens gained however I did?

Basically, it's going to break the game economy. And those tokens, Citadel, Monolith, Zelos, Punisher, just for starters, were basically free to get via the FM. Heck, the targets could be done for instant repair with a decent build & good driving!

Lastly.. Umm.. it's PAID, not payed

People have been asking also for a means to delete old tokens, maybe Kix is worried people will accidentally (or drunkenly) delete MODERN tokens instead of the junk, & you know how folks moan about stuff that was their own fault lmao.

My idea of a scan of all accounts & a sweet of all tokens from T8 down would simplify that issue. But that's work for people. You KNOW people don't like extra work, right?

If anything, maybe the tokens could be exchanged for simple resources, with the ability to overfill the warehouses, as you can by scrapping junk.

Yes I have come back recently but that does not mean I don't have a ton load of tokens to get rid

Also I'm not a player who worries what other players have or have not...if the same thing is available for all then thats fair to me weather they have 1 token or 100..

Weather or not it may break game economy is above my pay grade and that would involve information that players are not able to access ..but as you read I gave multiple ideas from something to nothing for the old tokens.

Yes you are right fm tokens could of been achieved for nothing, but time was spent earning those tokens so something was spent to get them(time) even if for free and no repair. But also as seen in the forums there are still alot of players that moan about damage and fm target so there still seems to be alot of players that cost repairs for points on fm always has been.

Also please forgive my spelling it's late here and my brain don't work so well and I must of missed payed..for paid especially when using phine. As you brought it up 😂

There's another idea...tokens earned in the fm..simple have them exchanged for fm points..as you mentioned they were free to earn in fm so the points would be free to get anyway,would just save players a little seat time then.

I was just making a few suggestions but as you and I both know the tokens will still be sitting there in another years time but suggestions don't hurt😊

P.s I loved my mono fleet and would burn all my tokens if only I had a way to use them, but I fear they would sink at the 1st cough of a missile heading at them.

Blackbeard III

carebears are food said:

@Blackbeard III said:
These are fair considerations about exchanging tokens, that aren't viable in todays' game

A fair time ago, I had a bunch of tokens (most from the FM) & others that were TLC stuff (Heck, I've got tokens Kix GAVE me for a hull I've never been able to claim.!) & I asked CS if they could be exchanged for something more modern, even at a ratio favourable to them

The answer was a resounding no.

Here's the reasoning for this: As you've come back to the game recently, I understand, you wouldn't have the massive collection of older hull-specific tokens (including rank tokens) like many others are just, simply, too lazy to burn up in the shipyard when it's free (yup, players don't want to burn them, they'd rather get the latest & greatest building ASAP, I get that)

So, let's say I have 99 tokens for, 3 types of hulls each, so 297 tokens, & you have none.

I get to redeem tokens I got for FREE, & get to claim, IDK, let's say 20 current hull-specific tokens.

You get nothing, as you have nothing to redeem.

How is that fair for YOU, when I get stuff for free, because I had those tokens gained however I did?

Basically, it's going to break the game economy. And those tokens, Citadel, Monolith, Zelos, Punisher, just for starters, were basically free to get via the FM. Heck, the targets could be done for instant repair with a decent build & good driving!

Lastly.. Umm.. it's PAID, not payed

People have been asking also for a means to delete old tokens, maybe Kix is worried people will accidentally (or drunkenly) delete MODERN tokens instead of the junk, & you know how folks moan about stuff that was their own fault lmao.

My idea of a scan of all accounts & a sweet of all tokens from T8 down would simplify that issue. But that's work for people. You KNOW people don't like extra work, right?

If anything, maybe the tokens could be exchanged for simple resources, with the ability to overfill the warehouses, as you can by scrapping junk.

Yes I have come back recently but that does not mean I don't have a ton load of tokens to get rid

Also I'm not a player who worries what other players have or have not...if the same thing is available for all then thats fair to me weather they have 1 token or 100..

Weather or not it may break game economy is above my pay grade and that would involve information that players are not able to access ..but as you read I gave multiple ideas from something to nothing for the old tokens.

Yes you are right fm tokens could of been achieved for nothing, but time was spent earning those tokens so something was spent to get them(time) even if for free and no repair. But also as seen in the forums there are still alot of players that moan about damage and fm target so there still seems to be alot of players that cost repairs for points on fm always has been.

Also please forgive my spelling it's late here and my brain don't work so well and I must of missed payed..for paid especially when using phine. As you brought it up 😂

There's another idea...tokens earned in the fm..simple have them exchanged for fm points..as you mentioned they were free to earn in fm so the points would be free to get anyway,would just save players a little seat time then.

I was just making a few suggestions but as you and I both know the tokens will still be sitting there in another years time but suggestions don't hurt😊

P.s I loved my mono fleet and would burn all my tokens if only I had a way to use them, but I fear they would sink at the 1st cough of a missile heading at them.

All good, bud

& when mobile phones make boo-boos, I call that 'auto-corrupt' instead of 'auto-correct'

Loved the Mono/Zelos fleet. Then the Inferno Dragon could do a target by iself quite easily, not the full fleet (made a great bait ship with a Kings Writ as hull 2 for killing pesky snipers-that hull could nail Glutttony fleets with what I put on it)

Ahh, good times..!

DerpyTheCow

Kixeye will never allow an exchange of lower tier tokens for higher ones

You've be able to instantly build the new top fleet with your 99x Citadel tokens you have stacked.

A delete button means extra tickets and people loosing ones they meant to use.

Far better to just auto-hide the one we don't need imo.

PiratePeteX

There is no game economy, and it's not going to break anything being able to exchange tokens. Why? You can already coin. Some players coin, some don't. That already breaks any semblance of "economy", "Balance" and "Fairness".

The exchange will do one thing, reduce coining briefly. Can't have that now.


Exchange system could be easily done. Work out a formula based on difference between current tier and tier of token to exchange. The bigger the difference, the lower the value of the exchange. Have an exchange market where you turn into points, which can then be spent. Kix has full control of the costs and what's in the market, so they can keep it in their favour, and as a bonus, players "game data" is reduced by not having all these obsolete items in inventory, which would no doubt improve performance slightly.

Blackbeard III

PiratePeteX said:

There is no game economy, and it's not going to break anything being able to exchange tokens. Why? You can already coin. Some players coin, some don't. That already breaks any semblance of "economy", "Balance" and "Fairness".

The exchange will do one thing, reduce coining briefly. Can't have that now.


Exchange system could be easily done. Work out a formula based on difference between current tier and tier of token to exchange. The bigger the difference, the lower the value of the exchange. Have an exchange market where you turn into points, which can then be spent. Kix has full control of the costs and what's in the market, so they can keep it in their favour, and as a bonus, players "game data" is reduced by not having all these obsolete items in inventory, which would no doubt improve performance slightly.

Ok, Let's say I'm a non-coiner with like 500 shipbuild tokens of various sorts, you're the uber-whale who's always at the top of leaderboards in every event, you don't get tokens because you coin everything (not saying you do, but hypothetical)

I brag in world comms about what an awesome deal I got trading in my tokens, got to build 2 or 3 fleets for free.

You hear this, & think "yeah, but I could've had tokens if I didn't chuck so much money at the game"

This is what Derpy & I are saying.

Or those pirates who saved their tokens from TLCs, & a player who's been around a year has none, he's not going to get ahead, while those with tokens to exchange will, even though, in essence, they're 'useless' tokens only gaining value because Kix offered an exchange for once in their lives.

Do you now see how that would break the economy, if only the once, but a very sharp break?

Blackbeard III

DerpyTheCow said:

Kixeye will never allow an exchange of lower tier tokens for higher ones

You've be able to instantly build the new top fleet with your 99x Citadel tokens you have stacked.

A delete button means extra tickets and people loosing ones they meant to use.

Far better to just auto-hide the one we don't need imo.

Honestly, it'd be far better if folks just spent however long it took just to go to ship designer, select old hull, & start building out there builds designed to be long, so the tokens could be burned.

Pirates are inherently lazy, however. Like, killing, robbing, because an honest job is too hard