Not surprised, bad design. Massive power swing yet again. Not comprehensible to game developers who don't play the game and don't understand their own game. This with the proposed changes to FM will kill the game within the next 6 months. I'd say it is stupid but it drops below this to absurdity.
Reduce the cost of this game. Then I might play more and spend more. Yes spend more. Because right now spending a lot gets you nowhere.
Question for a Mod I believe builtin counters don't receive benefits from specials will this mort be the same and only receive the range boost from the hull
Question for a Mod I believe builtin counters don't receive benefits from specials will this mort be the same and only receive the range boost from the hull
Built in weapons benefit from specials and reload given from rank bonuses. They are also affected by rogue crews where applicable.
You forgot to add the pen/exp range extenders.....it's more....
And when applied to the special mort it's 167....lol
P.S. We will get more land tiles (probably limited...25mil each....LOL) after sds7 gets them....for free......LMAO
But the "most important" change on our t7 defenders was to DECREASE the weaponranges, LOL!
The next bounty will be a slaughter fest, because the Basilisks will not even need to enter the channels to be able to kill the OP. So EVERY well placed heavy turrets will be complete useless, because they cant aim on the Basilisks. And even ALL ships we can use for defense will be also complete useless, because they would only be sitting ducks. Its funny, that the new dev team didn´t think, that it is looking WEIRD, that the new conqueror will have MORE range as defender ships. It should be exactly the opposite!
But OK, they will decrease the weaponrange on the Basilisks soon...after some "prefered customers" had fun with them...
would like a dev response on this one.... will we get more tiles to play with or will the range be sorted before release in 5 days, i dont see this being a good thing do to having that massive range when alot of players setups are only 5-6 tiles from op do to lack of tiles to create more space. 120 range would be more acceptable but not 130s and up....
to bring baser like that,kix need to give more lands to the bases. even its weak baser for armor,still crazy range. its mean kix need to bring new diffender same range. its mean we can scrapt all our base ships... its mean you need baser as diffender... its mean some 1 forgot to take his medicine...???
soo new hull outranges everything ? guess base defence is out and now its time to build square bases or odd shaped giggle bases tbh i could care less about base defence but even i think this is stupid
Smile.. your alliance is getting one on tuesday after update when the new ship gets added to game.
Means you get an extra week to build it before the next raid. Win 3 more and you will have 4 of them for the february bounty.
All rest of us will have 3 and a week less to get them ready.
You have no right to conplaun about this ship but those that your alliance hits with these over next few days after your freebies will have every right.
Ironic seeing a sds7 member being gifted one to complain about his early release toy.
Instead just sit back and enjoy a freebie nasty ship to use before everyone else.
Smile.. your alliance is getting one on tuesday after update when the new ship gets added to game.
Means you get an extra week to build it before the next raid. Win 3 more and you will have 4 of them for the february bounty.
All rest of us will have 3 and a week less to get them ready.
You have no right to conplaun about this ship but those that your alliance hits with these over next few days after your freebies will have every right.
Ironic seeing a sds7 member being gifted one to complain about his early release toy.
Instead just sit back and enjoy a freebie nasty ship to use before everyone else.
Its not really ironic about them complaining. Its more like they can see just how bad this ship is for the game, regardless of the fact that they get one a week early.
to bring baser like that,kix need to give more lands to the bases. even its weak baser for armor,still crazy range. its mean kix need to bring new diffender same range. its mean we can scrapt all our base ships... its mean you need baser as diffender... its mean some 1 forgot to take his medicine...???
We would need a LOT more landtiles: 3 landtiles space in each direction, thats 6 tiles per direction = 24 landtiles total. Problem: our bases doesnt have a big enough footprint.
I guess, that KIX is "using" the SDS7 alliance as a bait:"Look, how easy you can smash bases with the new Basilisk!" And few days after the next Bounty, they will decrease the range from the Basilisks...but the damage would be done: enough peeps would have coined that hull like crazy. And thats the reason, to give away a Basilisk freebie: to make greedy pirates coin like crazy. Who at KIX cares about any balance in PvP, if the revenue is OK?
Before you get all bent out of shape, my guess is this boat will be set to equip tier 8 weapons only (only a guess). Which means at this time there is no missile or mort in this tier. When they do come out in the raid I'm betting you'll find that the overall base weapon range is shorter. Bringing this boat in line with others
no where near a week to build and use, 24hrs between update and begining of raid. within a couple of hours of raid starting these new hulls will be on the map, and not just SDS7 members.
as for the range, well, panties are getting twisted over something that we have all dealt with in the past. Tank/spotter & remote targeting
Just to help clear things a lil, first of all 777 is not an SDS7 member anymore and second it's obvious that he is a very experienced player and he knows what he is talking about and what the consequences will be ...
to bring baser like that,kix need to give more lands to the bases. even its weak baser for armor,still crazy range. its mean kix need to bring new diffender same range. its mean we can scrapt all our base ships... its mean you need baser as diffender... its mean some 1 forgot to take his medicine...???
Before you get all bent out of shape, my guess is this boat will be set to equip tier 8 weapons only (only a guess). Which means at this time there is no missile or mort in this tier. When they do come out in the raid I'm betting you'll find that the overall base weapon range is shorter. Bringing this boat in line with others
no where near a week to build and use, 24hrs between update and begining of raid. within a couple of hours of raid starting these new hulls will be on the map, and not just SDS7 members.
as for the range, well, panties are getting twisted over something that we have all dealt with in the past. Tank/spotter & remote targeting
Only those who coin it. And 24h is plenty of headstart for sds7 to flatten every1 completely unchallenged.
No we havent' This doesnt even need a spotter, which you first had to get in the base. This can just sit outside the base shooting morts....
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yep its gonna kill the game, its not like we have subs or water born turrets for defence...
Yea....you ll killl something that has 167 range that can shoot from outside (8 squares) the base and can have 4 DNs covering it...with subs and water based turrets....
LMAO.......
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Before you get all bent out of shape, my guess is this boat will be set to equip tier 8 weapons only (only a guess). Which means at this time there is no missile or mort in this tier. When they do come out in the raid I'm betting you'll find that the overall base weapon range is shorter. Bringing this boat in line with others
I thought about this and I hope this is what will happen.
yep its gonna kill the game, its not like we have subs or water born turrets for defence...
How do you want to kill the Basilisks with Lurkers? The torps cant shoot through the outer rim from your base. I guess, you didn´t realize, that the Basilisks doesnt even have to enter the channel to kill the OP during the Bounty. All you need to get the Bounty from a base is 50% damage and a flat OP...to kill the centerisle will do the job. And the Basilisk can do that from the backyard from your base...he doesnt need to drive through your channel to face your defenderships, so he will also not come in range from the heavy t8 turretweapons, which are covering the channel. You would need 9 tiles space around your OP, to be safe...try a basedesign with that requirements. Good luck!
yep its gonna kill the game, its not like we have subs or water born turrets for defence...
Yea....you ll killl something that has 167 range that can shoot from outside (8 squares) the base and can have 4 DNs covering it...with subs and water based turrets....
LMAO.......
its no different to sloths in that regard, a lot of folks thought that would be a killer
you keep whining like me but we are still here, i love broken pixels, how about you
yep its gonna kill the game, its not like we have subs or water born turrets for defence...
Yea....you ll killl something that has 167 range that can shoot from outside (8 squares) the base and can have 4 DNs covering it...with subs and water based turrets....
LMAO.......
its no different to sloths in that regard, a lot of folks thought that would be a killer
Sloths needed a spoter to get in the base. This doesnt'. Completely different.
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yep its gonna kill the game, its not like we have subs or water born turrets for defence...
Yea....you ll killl something that has 167 range that can shoot from outside (8 squares) the base and can have 4 DNs covering it...with subs and water based turrets....
LMAO.......
its no different to sloths in that regard, a lot of folks thought that would be a killer
NOPE!
Sloths did need a spotter, which has to come IN RANGE from the defending stuff (turrets, defenderships). And the Sloths was paperships with some sort of stealth.
The Basilisk doesnt need any spotter...and he is a tank.
yep its gonna kill the game, its not like we have subs or water born turrets for defence...
Yea....you ll killl something that has 167 range that can shoot from outside (8 squares) the base and can have 4 DNs covering it...with subs and water based turrets....
LMAO.......
its no different to sloths in that regard, a lot of folks thought that would be a killer
Sloths needed a spoter to get in the base. This doesnt'. Completely different.
its no different. the range on the sloths had people claiming it would kill the game and it did not. we now have turrets with a range of 500. there is no need to claim it will be impossible to defend against. its simply not true. if you cant defend against them your probably not advanced enough in the game and there is nothing wrong with that
you keep whining like me but we are still here, i love broken pixels, how about you
yep its gonna kill the game, its not like we have subs or water born turrets for defence...
Yea....you ll killl something that has 167 range that can shoot from outside (8 squares) the base and can have 4 DNs covering it...with subs and water based turrets....
LMAO.......
its no different to sloths in that regard, a lot of folks thought that would be a killer
Sloths needed a spoter to get in the base. This doesnt'. Completely different.
its no different. the range on the sloths had people claiming it would kill the game and it did not. we now have turrets with a range of 500. there is no need to claim it will be impossible to defend against. its simply not true. if you cant defend against them your probably not advanced enough in the game and there is nothing wrong with that
I dont care what ''people'' said.... Sloths needed 5+ tiles to outmax their range. This needs 8. There simply isnt enough room/tiles. Fact. Try designing something and see.
The turrets you mention can easily be baited with DNs. They're completely useless. And the sloth morts didn't have 60% evasion like the t7s have (and who knows how much the t8 morts will have or get....), nor did they add conqussive deflection to counter the UAV turrets. Fact.
Will we be able to defend against it eventually somehow? Yes. But not b4 sds7 has a headstart of 1 day to flatten every1 and an advantage of 1 extra hull till its offered again. Was it ok with the DN? Sure, they won an announced prize. This time...NO. Fact.
LOL...I have 593 cookies as we speak and no one has gotten 100% in my base since 1 week after the DNs came out (and that was sds7 member with 4 DNs when everyone could only have 3...and i had NONE in guard). Now, you claiming the subs will get them shows how advanced you are...lol
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- WitchKing (''Star Wars'' 1978)
The next bounty will be a slaughter fest, because the Basilisks will not even need to enter the channels to be able to kill the OP.
So EVERY well placed heavy turrets will be complete useless, because they cant aim on the Basilisks.
And even ALL ships we can use for defense will be also complete useless, because they would only be sitting ducks.
Its funny, that the new dev team didn´t think, that it is looking WEIRD, that the new conqueror will have MORE range as defender ships.
It should be exactly the opposite!
But OK, they will decrease the weaponrange on the Basilisks soon...after some "prefered customers" had fun with them...
Decoding Pirateslangword "F.A.R.M." = Foolish Amateur Reaches Midgame
even 7 lands not help.
132m for missles?...
tell kix to find real goos shrink...
kix are a joke
777
even its weak baser for armor,still crazy range.
its mean kix need to bring new diffender same range.
its mean we can scrapt all our base ships...
its mean you need baser as diffender...
its mean some 1 forgot to take his medicine...???
Smile.. your alliance is getting one on tuesday after update when the new ship gets added to game.
Means you get an extra week to build it before the next raid. Win 3 more and you will have 4 of them for the february bounty.
All rest of us will have 3 and a week less to get them ready.
You have no right to conplaun about this ship but those that your alliance hits with these over next few days after your freebies will have every right.
Ironic seeing a sds7 member being gifted one to complain about his early release toy.
Instead just sit back and enjoy a freebie nasty ship to use before everyone else.
Problem: our bases doesnt have a big enough footprint.
I guess, that KIX is "using" the SDS7 alliance as a bait:"Look, how easy you can smash bases with the new Basilisk!"
And few days after the next Bounty, they will decrease the range from the Basilisks...but the damage would be done: enough peeps would have
coined that hull like crazy. And thats the reason, to give away a Basilisk freebie: to make greedy pirates coin like crazy.
Who at KIX cares about any balance in PvP, if the revenue is OK?
Decoding Pirateslangword "F.A.R.M." = Foolish Amateur Reaches Midgame
no where near a week to build and use, 24hrs between update and begining of raid. within a couple of hours of raid starting these new hulls will be on the map, and not just SDS7 members.
as for the range, well, panties are getting twisted over something that we have all dealt with in the past.
Tank/spotter & remote targeting
No we havent' This doesnt even need a spotter, which you first had to get in the base.
This can just sit outside the base shooting morts....
- WitchKing (''Star Wars'' 1978)
LMAO.......
- WitchKing (''Star Wars'' 1978)
I guess, you didn´t realize, that the Basilisks doesnt even have to enter the channel to kill the OP during the Bounty.
All you need to get the Bounty from a base is 50% damage and a flat OP...to kill the centerisle will do the job.
And the Basilisk can do that from the backyard from your base...he doesnt need to drive through your channel to face your defenderships,
so he will also not come in range from the heavy t8 turretweapons, which are covering the channel.
You would need 9 tiles space around your OP, to be safe...try a basedesign with that requirements. Good luck!
Decoding Pirateslangword "F.A.R.M." = Foolish Amateur Reaches Midgame
- WitchKing (''Star Wars'' 1978)
Sloths did need a spotter, which has to come IN RANGE from the defending stuff (turrets, defenderships).
And the Sloths was paperships with some sort of stealth.
The Basilisk doesnt need any spotter...and he is a tank.
Decoding Pirateslangword "F.A.R.M." = Foolish Amateur Reaches Midgame
Sloths needed 5+ tiles to outmax their range. This needs 8. There simply isnt enough room/tiles. Fact. Try designing something and see.
The turrets you mention can easily be baited with DNs. They're completely useless. And the sloth morts didn't have 60% evasion like the t7s have (and who knows how much the t8 morts will have or get....), nor did they add conqussive deflection to counter the UAV turrets. Fact.
Will we be able to defend against it eventually somehow? Yes. But not b4 sds7 has a headstart of 1 day to flatten every1 and an advantage of 1 extra hull till its offered again. Was it ok with the DN? Sure, they won an announced prize. This time...NO. Fact.
LOL...I have 593 cookies as we speak and no one has gotten 100% in my base since 1 week after the DNs came out (and that was sds7 member with 4 DNs when everyone could only have 3...and i had NONE in guard).
Now, you claiming the subs will get them shows how advanced you are...lol
- WitchKing (''Star Wars'' 1978)