Discussion Thread - August Civil War II

CM_Burny
CM_Burny
Incursion Leader
Joined Oct 2017 Posts: 1,481
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  • LilBasterd
    LilBasterd
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Mar 2018 Posts: 1,955
    Can you comment on why they  keep  things no one liked? and encourage cheating via removing the two things that may  of helped prevent it?

    Did you get to have  a chat with the devs as you stated?
    -Were any issues players brought to you talked about/addressed?
    Sealcorps is my biggest fan, ty Sealcorps  for always reading what i write. :)
  • Struan Robertson
    Struan Robertson
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Feb 2018 Posts: 728
    Can you comment on why they  keep  things no one liked? and encourage cheating via removing the two things that may  of helped prevent it?

    Did you get to have  a chat with the devs as you stated?
    -Were any issues players brought to you talked about/addressed?
    some things do actually take time.

    Look they are trying to clamp down on some of the blatant cheating that is going on (looking at to you Paragon cheaters).

    Do I think this NEW system is the right way, no not entirely but it is a step in a direction
  • LilBasterd
    LilBasterd
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Mar 2018 Posts: 1,955
    edited 25 Aug 2018, 1:17AM
    they just removed two road blocks to cheating, how is that clamping down?
    "

    Battle limits have been increased for Fleets below level 60, and removed for Fleets above level 60.

    Note: We are updating the amount of points you can receive from hitting the same fleet multiple times."


    Things don't take long when kixeye wants to do something, notice the big event change they just did?

    its about what they want to do when they want, not "it takes time"

     the prize structure would take next to zero time to change,they can live change it, change it before CW,
    or leave it.

    What they choose to do reflects what they think of the players.

    Pretty simple

    Cm_burny supposedly had a meeting with the devs, but has said nothing about it, maybe it didn't happen? Maybe he didn't bring any player concerns like he said he would,we don't know because he isn't commenting, transparency.

    "But be cautious, avoid taking damage from the enemy as every point of damage you take awards your opponent points as well."
    -How does this help players? Because cheaters arent hitting each other with ships that have weapons, big clue there.

    I mean its just a slap in players faces.

    Sealcorps is my biggest fan, ty Sealcorps  for always reading what i write. :)
  • Ralyon
    Ralyon
    Potential Threat
    Joined Apr 2015 Posts: 33
    It says "Battle limits have been increased for Fleets below level 60, and removed for Fleets above level 60."

    1. What is the new limit for below level 60? And does that include base attacks or is base attacks a different limit like last time?
    2. You say below 60 and above 60. Which one does a level 60 fall under? Is it below 60 and then 60 and above?
  • John the Savage
    John the Savage
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Nov 2016 Posts: 956
    Well its like this folks.

    The fight clubbers / cheaters are spending money to do what they do.  They make a profit in the end as far as game currency goes, but to get there they are dropping cash.

    It's guaranteed revenue for kix, and they have known about it for many months. 

    They are not going to do anything to stop it at this point. 

  • LilBasterd
    LilBasterd
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    Joined Mar 2018 Posts: 1,955

    Ok so double spots 1 2 and 3 and you get your big cheaters to spend money.

    But put back the coins for the rest of us, costs nothing.

    Just funny how @cm_burny avoids all these questions.

    Sealcorps is my biggest fan, ty Sealcorps  for always reading what i write. :)
  • John the Savage
    John the Savage
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Nov 2016 Posts: 956

    Ok so double spots 1 2 and 3 and you get your big cheaters to spend money.

    But put back the coins for the rest of us, costs nothing.

    Just funny how @cm_burny avoids all these questions.

    "the rest of us" are irrelevant as far as the bean counters are concerned.

    Ensuring that the spenders keep spending is entirely what the game is structured around.


  • kamikaze_xyz
    kamikaze_xyz
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2015 Posts: 581
    @CM_Burny


    >Battle limits have been increased for Fleets below level 60, and removed for Fleets above level 60.

    How many attack when I get battle limit?
     "FvF 100 / FvB 50"???

    >We are updating the amount of points you can receive from hitting the same fleet multiple times.

    this "same fleet" is same lvl? or same player?
    http://i.imgur.com/QYnxhWI.gif
  • Gary P
    Gary P
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Oct 2016 Posts: 1,219
    @CM_Burny


    >Battle limits have been increased for Fleets below level 60, and removed for Fleets above level 60.

    How many attack when I get battle limit?
     "FvF 100 / FvB 50"???

    >We are updating the amount of points you can receive from hitting the same fleet multiple times.

    this "same fleet" is same lvl? or same player?
    same player i believe
  • Struan Robertson
    Struan Robertson
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Feb 2018 Posts: 728
    @CM_Burny


    >Battle limits have been increased for Fleets below level 60, and removed for Fleets above level 60.

    How many attack when I get battle limit?
     "FvF 100 / FvB 50"???

    >We are updating the amount of points you can receive from hitting the same fleet multiple times.

    this "same fleet" is same lvl? or same player?
    I asked in the Discord channel but never got an official answer
  • kamikaze_xyz
    kamikaze_xyz
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2015 Posts: 581
    @CM_Burny


    >Battle limits have been increased for Fleets below level 60, and removed for Fleets above level 60.

    How many attack when I get battle limit?
     "FvF 100 / FvB 50"???

    >We are updating the amount of points you can receive from hitting the same fleet multiple times.

    this "same fleet" is same lvl? or same player?
    I asked in the Discord channel but never got an official answer

    Thanks :))


    Communication tool increased but official reply has decreased. lol
    http://i.imgur.com/QYnxhWI.gif
  • Cyrus Leung
    Cyrus Leung
    VC Mod
    Joined Jan 2013 Posts: 3,654
    They are on their weekend, don't expect a response until Monday.
  • Struan Robertson
    Struan Robertson
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Feb 2018 Posts: 728
    They are on their weekend, don't expect a response until Monday.
    he was in the chat when I asked about it, he was not even sure if the curve included bases or just FVF
  • LilBasterd
    LilBasterd
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Mar 2018 Posts: 1,955
    They are on their weekend, don't expect a response until Monday.
    yup been asking since weds thursday no answer on why they keep changes players dont like
    Sealcorps is my biggest fan, ty Sealcorps  for always reading what i write. :)
  • Time Manager
    Time Manager
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jul 2016 Posts: 152

    @CM_Burny Please see if the dev team can revert the civil war personal coin prizes to what they were 2 civil wars ago. 350 to 750 used to give 400 coins. It now only gives 100 coins. This takes away any incentive some of us had to participate in civil war. At this point, repair costs with coins outweigh what you earn at that level.

  • RyantheRed
    RyantheRed
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 614

    @Time Manager said:
    350 to 750 used to give 400 coins. It now only gives 100 coins. This takes away any incentive some of us had to participate in civil war. At this point, repair costs with coins outweigh what you earn at that level.

    Who would waste time in this junk Lol

  • LilBasterd
    LilBasterd
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Mar 2018 Posts: 1,955

    @CM_Burny Please see if the dev team can revert the civil war personal coin prizes to what they were 2 civil wars ago. 350 to 750 used to give 400 coins. It now only gives 100 coins. This takes away any incentive some of us had to participate in civil war. At this point, repair costs with coins outweigh what you earn at that level.

    He stated he had a meeting with them , i guess we have the results, he has yet to comment on anything regarding this.
    Sealcorps is my biggest fan, ty Sealcorps  for always reading what i write. :)
  • John the Savage
    John the Savage
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Nov 2016 Posts: 956
    Lets just make it official and rename Civil War to "Premium Coin Fight Club"

    That way, it is more clear to the average player not to waste their time on it.


  • kamikaze_xyz
    kamikaze_xyz
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2015 Posts: 581
    edited 27 Aug 2018, 6:53AM
    Let's see how it goes.
    At least they make some changes.
    I don't know if this change is good, but this is one progress.

    btw....CW will begin soon. I'm waiting official answer but he don't.
    I wonder if it suddenly gets battle limit again?......omg.

    They released Discord but I'm concerned that the response rate of the forum will be lowered.



    http://i.imgur.com/QYnxhWI.gif
  • Zombie3116
    Zombie3116
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined May 2015 Posts: 194
    With the reduction in coins for places its not worth anyone's time
    A few coiners will have much less targets to hit as nobody see any benefit in doing it now

    I did last cw and ended up 185. spending around 600 coins stored up. getting 400 coins back.. wasted a day hitting and playing the game to end up with less coins.. yeah not doing that again
  • Jamie Helm
    Jamie Helm
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Mar 2016 Posts: 973

    I don’t see that anything has been done to stop the cheating....so I will skip it and just fight like normal in sector.

  • LilBasterd
    LilBasterd
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Mar 2018 Posts: 1,955

    @kamikaze_xyz said:
    Let's see how it goes.
    At least they make some changes.

    I don't know if this change is good, but this is one progress.

    btw....CW will begin soon. I'm waiting official answer but he don't.
    I wonder if it suddenly gets battle limit again?......omg.

    They released Discord but I'm concerned that the response rate of the forum will be lowered.

    It's just another place to ask questions without answers.

    Sealcorps is my biggest fan, ty Sealcorps  for always reading what i write. :)
  • kixeyeuser_95508391
    kixeyeuser_95508391
    Potential Threat
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 78
    want people to participate in the CW's make the prizes worth the effort..  Last one I scored over 500k and what did I get a few lousy refit tokens
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