8.28 Supremacy Discussion Thread

  • Capt_Gossamer
    Capt_Gossamer
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 477
    Wow Damage way up today over start of Raid Kix Keep your Fckn "virtual hulls" I do a more than moderate amout of coining to keep up but every raid you just find new and better ways to F**K over you clients (us) 
  • Green_Lantern
    Green_Lantern
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    And every word or letter is just wasted time. :D
  • JoeCusty
    JoeCusty
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    yeah I hear that swirling sound

  • sandra.misuraca
    sandra.misuraca
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    wow only 6 pages of complainats guess kix have made everyone happy lmao 
    There are only 5 pages on the leader board in sector 300. Of which only a handful are actually playing. Sad state of affairs indeed. The lowers can't do anything these past raids and have just given up.
  • JoeCusty
    JoeCusty
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    JoeCusty said:
    Love the trolls here, nothing but A-holes....U know who you are... Find a bridge and hide under it you POS'. Hate trolls wish they all die a horrible failure at the bottom of Davie's locker...
    Yeah because looking at your previous replies they are so constructive. Pot meet kettle.
    Like I said just scummy trolls, worthless in every way, just don't have anyone that loves them. I feel kind of sorry for the under the bridge rats. Must be a lonely life. Except for the other trolls. They should breed and then they wouldn't be so lonely

  • Green_Lantern
    Green_Lantern
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    Joined Jul 2018 Posts: 7

    How much the new anti missile are good ? Does it help to counter the special kodiak missile if it is let me know i dont want to refit my fleet on something that will not work

    Just crap
  • nrubnus
    nrubnus
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    Joined May 2011 Posts: 767
    edited 13 Jul 2018, 4:36PM
    I had some gold saved up for this event, I have a decent Markara/Manti fleet and doing 104s and 106s has been on average about 2hrs damage each so either I wait 4 hrs to continue or pay 8 or more gold. I'm up to 150mil so obviously I've spent some time waiting for repairs and the majority of the gold i had saved up.

    Honestly having THE recommended fleet for these targets, that fleet shouldn't be taking so much damage. I have the best scatter build I could find, I'm watching the videos, following the best paths I can but damage just seems to get worse and worse. My best run (one time) was 1 hr 46min damage on a 104 near the start of the raid (using a steelheads crew). Ever since then, I've seen what appears to be the damage creeping up as I'm taking more and more damage while following the same paths.

    I'm about done as I'm not going to spend any money for this raid. Its just not worth my time. Its repetition over and over and that's just not fun. At least I'll have the weekend free.
    This game is rapidly dying. 
  • FreeperTroll
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    Gryffon said:
    For those complaining that they are having issues with this raid here is a build that does the tier 8 targets for about an hour damage a piece.  It isn't the best build out there but it works for me.  No excuses I don't coin a single bit and already have 60mil.  Be smart with your builds and be smart with your shipyard time and stop building old hulls.   https://www.dahippo.com/bp/ship/#!JPOQ04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W427903448Z2A2ACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07POP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07dEl3
    Good advice for players that have those hulls and tech to make those builds.  What is your suggestion for us lower level players who don't have them and can't even participate in the raid to earn new tech and new hulls?  I bet every one of you who keep saying this doesn't realize that the raids now alienates a lot of players compared to the raids in the past where everyone can be involved and have a chance to get that new updated stuff.  Now it's just high level opportunities and nothing for the rest of us.  Just wrong.
    Read: Heavy coiners. I don't and I cant even do a 60 set with a good Sky Flt. My Manticore FLT (3 scatter no flag) does WORSE than the Skys. ?????

    I cannot get the "new" tech. Its completely out of reach.
  • ogrish
    ogrish
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    Joined Mar 2016 Posts: 334
    Gryffon said:
    For those complaining that they are having issues with this raid here is a build that does the tier 8 targets for about an hour damage a piece.  It isn't the best build out there but it works for me.  No excuses I don't coin a single bit and already have 60mil.  Be smart with your builds and be smart with your shipyard time and stop building old hulls.   https://www.dahippo.com/bp/ship/#!JPOQ04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W427903448Z2A2ACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07POP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA0APOP04H4H4H4H8W4279038X8ZCACACACACACACACA07dEl3
    Good advice for players that have those hulls and tech to make those builds.  What is your suggestion for us lower level players who don't have them and can't even participate in the raid to earn new tech and new hulls?  I bet every one of you who keep saying this doesn't realize that the raids now alienates a lot of players compared to the raids in the past where everyone can be involved and have a chance to get that new updated stuff.  Now it's just high level opportunities and nothing for the rest of us.  Just wrong.
    I agree that the lower levels were treated pretty badly in this raid.  Apollos could only do the 40s and the available stuff is way too expensive for what those fleets can hit.  No hourly tokens also hits the lower level raiders right in the keister.
  • nrubnus
    nrubnus
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    edited 13 Jul 2018, 5:23PM
    I'm sure Kix is looking at these forums and saying what a success it must be because not 100 pages of posts yet, What they don't get is so many people are just tired of saying the same stuff that falls on deaf ears and just stopped playing and complaining.
    THIS!!! Only 30K players showing online during a raid event says it all.
    This game is rapidly dying. 
  • The_Vengeful_One
    The_Vengeful_One
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    Foley63 said:
    Dang kix, just twist the knife some more.  The Markara flag OR the Greta flag. Not even close to this player being first. Thanks again.
    You can get both flags.
  • CaptainQuick
    CaptainQuick
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 1
    alex.stanham said:
    Ray_P said:
    102 with 4 mantis with scatters are hard to make , dead fleet , so an advise keep away from them , at least 4 mantis with scatters , get melted , i think they added more and more and more and more ships to target , will test 80s , if not will skip another raid , thanks kix , no honey , no money 
    Alex if you haven't already and have them put the 3 darkwings on

    darkwing for missiles and i use scatters , i got the other the savage one , and wont bother anymore with this raid cycle , really sucks , too much differents build and stuff and never get nothing working , here is my build, but tired and wont refit any more the manticores , this raid cycle was a mess and still is from the start of it , well 0 coins from my side , so wont play raid but wont spend a dime 


    my view
  • filmbryan1
    filmbryan1
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    @nrubnus said:
    Capt_Gossamer said:

    I'm sure Kix is looking at these forums and saying what a success it must be because not 100 pages of posts yet, What they don't get is so many people are just tired of saying the same stuff that falls on deaf ears and just stopped playing and complaining.

    THIS!!! Only 30K players showing online during a raid event says it all.

    Even though the raid might be less active the past raids, this can be debated. We really need a pinned post on the forums that states what the number represents and what it doesn’t.

    You will only receive my scorn from this point forward
  • Meltorn
    Meltorn
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    Wow Damage way up today over start of Raid Kix Keep your Fckn "virtual hulls" I do a more than moderate amout of coining to keep up but every raid you just find new and better ways to F**K over you clients (us) 
    I cannot believe the amount you have turned up the damage. My fleet went from 4hr 30 mins in a 104 last night to not being able to kill it tonight, That is over double the amount of damage. You can shove this raid and the money I was going to spend, I will drink while spending time with family
  • leonvdburgh
    leonvdburgh
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    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 648
    since the raid is finish for most top players and lower level players cant do it and servers aren't overloaded can we get some of the chores back
  • Sputnik001
    Sputnik001
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    Joined Jun 2013 Posts: 1,509
    wow only 6 pages of complainats guess kix have made everyone happy lmao 
    There are only 5 pages on the leader board in sector 300. Of which only a handful are actually playing. Sad state of affairs indeed. The lowers can't do anything these past raids and have just given up.
    Only 3 pages in my sector...., the player in first has more than everyone else combined....mind you he has a Caedes so guessing that is helping....

    Putting in perspective, 10th place currently has 59k points....5th place 5M...1st is way out at 180M
  • Capt_Gossamer
    Capt_Gossamer
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    Foley63 said:
    Dang kix, just twist the knife some more.  The Markara flag OR the Greta flag. Not even close to this player being first. Thanks again.
    You can get both flags.
    Not with damage turned up so high!
  • john joseph svelnys
    john joseph svelnys
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    Joined Nov 2015 Posts: 505
    edited 13 Jul 2018, 7:56PM
    low level players grinding the raid cannot claim twinfire rockets or the engine for inferno ships. for some reason they are locked behind greata inferno and no way low level players can get 45 mill to unlock them. so much for low levels to get into inferno dragons without that tech.as taking alot of damage with skyfires there is no way grinding the 60 mill for the 3 prizes doing tier 6.    75 mill with the inferno dragon
  • NoRiding
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    I'm sure it has been asked already, but is there any possibility of some proto cent tokens being added?
  • kara.turner.31193
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    do something about the gosh darn lag!!! I've lost 2 fleets to it - I'm beginning to suspect the lag is intentional, just to make sure everyone gets damaged, no matter how carefully they drive. I'd be willing to bet the lag is selective -- they know who the whales are, I bet their games don't lag. 

    One "feature" that's guaranteed to cause lag are those idiotic scourge pop-up things. Every scenario that has those lags. Whatever code is behind them must be horrible. 

    And they serve no purpose whatsoever, a complete waste of time. You can never move fast enough to get to the other side before they pop-up, so what value to them, other than to cause lag?

    IF they popped up in response to triggers on the map that could be avoided, they might be interesting, but that sort of clever code is clearly beyond this generation of designers. All they know how to do is make targets too hard and make more lag. 


    game working as intended latency they only have 1 good server the others are crap so latency is always a part of the game this is a company that does not understand without gamers there is no money rolling in to support it but hey keep it up kixeye .LOVE YOUR WORK MORONS 
  • Carlos_DaPoof
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    nrubnus said:
    I had some gold saved up for this event, I have a decent Markara/Manti fleet and doing 104s and 106s has been on average about 2hrs damage each so either I wait 4 hrs to continue or pay 8 or more gold. I'm up to 150mil so obviously I've spent some time waiting for repairs and the majority of the gold i had saved up.

    Honestly having THE recommended fleet for these targets, that fleet shouldn't be taking so much damage. I have the best scatter build I could find, I'm watching the videos, following the best paths I can but damage just seems to get worse and worse. My best run (one time) was 1 hr 46min damage on a 104 near the start of the raid (using a steelheads crew). Ever since then, I've seen what appears to be the damage creeping up as I'm taking more and more damage while following the same paths.

    I'm about done as I'm not going to spend any money for this raid. Its just not worth my time. Its repetition over and over and that's just not fun. At least I'll have the weekend free.
    When has a raid ever been different? They are always the same targets, so you always have to hit them over and over.
    Why is 4 hours of damage too much? That's 8 coin for 10M points.  What do you consider acceptable?
    " I see no solid discussion or argument. Just whining and name calling. You pose no reason or logic to back up your position and can't articulate a reason why "
  • kara.turner.31193
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    edited 13 Jul 2018, 8:47PM
    What do you call a gaming company without gamers ?  its pretty easy to guess i would call it KIXEYE i just ran manticore fleet in a 41 just to see damage 17 mins for a manticore fleet that by kixeyes standards does top targets it should be a insta map repair  but you take 17 mins damage i thought what the flying F word but kixeye is really not learning anything i would like a refund on my 368 coin i have left in my base and just quit playing thats $40 aussie money just sitting they will say we dont do refunds well there would have to be away as i have no product for my money the game is a broken mess and going to get worse cause you have intelligent people running the game and they get great input from liam 99 lol well we all seen tfc the other night george try to tell them but they are heads and kixeye lying to its gamers  and this is called freedom of speech not breaking any rules as freedom of speech is aloud 
  • nrubnus
    nrubnus
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    edited 13 Jul 2018, 8:49PM
    nrubnus said:
    I had some gold saved up for this event, I have a decent Markara/Manti fleet and doing 104s and 106s has been on average about 2hrs damage each so either I wait 4 hrs to continue or pay 8 or more gold. I'm up to 150mil so obviously I've spent some time waiting for repairs and the majority of the gold i had saved up.

    Honestly having THE recommended fleet for these targets, that fleet shouldn't be taking so much damage. I have the best scatter build I could find, I'm watching the videos, following the best paths I can but damage just seems to get worse and worse. My best run (one time) was 1 hr 46min damage on a 104 near the start of the raid (using a steelheads crew). Ever since then, I've seen what appears to be the damage creeping up as I'm taking more and more damage while following the same paths.

    I'm about done as I'm not going to spend any money for this raid. Its just not worth my time. Its repetition over and over and that's just not fun. At least I'll have the weekend free.
    When has a raid ever been different? They are always the same targets, so you always have to hit them over and over.
    Why is 4 hours of damage too much? That's 8 coin for 10M points.  What do you consider acceptable?
    Um..its been very different at different times in the past and NO, the targets are not always literally the same but if you're saying the BS of the raid is the same..yeah pretty much..that doesn't mean we have to like it or even accept it.

    And to answer your question, less than 8 or more gold which is what its costing me now. Acceptable would be 2 - 4 gold per target and I could get it down to that IF I could ever roll a GM. But I never do lol.
    This game is rapidly dying. 
  • Laredo
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    edited 13 Jul 2018, 8:47PM
    What do you call a gaming company without gamers ?  its pretty easy to guess i would call it KIXEYE i just ran manticore fleet in a 41 just to see damage 17 mins for a manticore fleet that by kixeyes standards does top targets it should be a insta map repair  but you take 17 mins damage i thought what the flying F word but kixeye is really not learning anything i would like a refund on my 368 coin i have left in my base and just quit playing thats $40 aussie money just sitting they will say we dont do refunds well there would have to be away as i have no product for my money the game is a broken mess and going to get worse cause you have intelligent people running the game and they get great input from liam 99 lol well we all seen tfc the other night george try to tell them but they are heads and kixeye lying to its gamers  and this is called freedom of speech not breaking any rules as freedom of speech is aloud 
    The 40s and 60s are made for fleets using charged armor.  The 80s and 100s are for fleets using defense armors.  By looking at the event briefing the fleet recommendations would have shown you this.
  • kara.turner.31193
    kara.turner.31193
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    edited 13 Jul 2018, 8:51PM
    Laredo said:
    What do you call a gaming company without gamers ?  its pretty easy to guess i would call it KIXEYE i just ran manticore fleet in a 41 just to see damage 17 mins for a manticore fleet that by kixeyes standards does top targets it should be a insta map repair  but you take 17 mins damage i thought what the flying F word but kixeye is really not learning anything i would like a refund on my 368 coin i have left in my base and just quit playing thats $40 aussie money just sitting they will say we dont do refunds well there would have to be away as i have no product for my money the game is a broken mess and going to get worse cause you have intelligent people running the game and they get great input from liam 99 lol well we all seen tfc the other night george try to tell them but they are dickheads and kixeye lying to its gamers  and this is called freedom of speech not breaking any rules as freedom of speech is aloud 
    The 40s and 60s are made for fleets using charged armor.  The 80s and 100s are for fleets using defense armors.  By looking at the event briefing the fleet recommendations would have shown you this.
    laredo i am lvl 119 i no the game i did a test of it i been hitting 104 and 106 and they gone from reasonable amount damage to well go and wait 7hrs to repair i not wasting another coin kixeye are greedy.


  • JWGJR_BadCompany
    JWGJR_BadCompany
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    Joined Jun 2012 Posts: 13
    bank all function isn't working.....either

  • TRUCULENT2
    TRUCULENT2
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    What is an argument for the sake of an argument: 
    What do you call a gaming company without gamers ?  its pretty easy to guess i would call it KIXEYE i just ran manticore fleet in a 41 just to see damage 17 mins for a manticore fleet that by kixeyes standards does top targets it should be a insta map repair  but you take 17 mins damage i thought what the flying F word but kixeye is really not learning anything i would like a refund on my 368 coin i have left in my base and just quit playing thats $40 aussie money just sitting they will say we dont do refunds well there would have to be away as i have no product for my money the game is a broken mess and going to get worse cause you have intelligent people running the game and they get great input from liam 99 lol well we all seen tfc the other night george try to tell them but they are heads and kixeye lying to its gamers  and this is called freedom of speech not breaking any rules as freedom of speech is aloud 
    go ahead and keep using the wrong tools for tasks... 'but I want the freeeeeeeddddddoooooommmm to use whatever fleets I want to do whatever I want and Kixeye should let me do it, because FREEDOM'

    this is one of the reasons kixeye locks certain fleets out of certain targets - there is always gonna be that guy trying to hammer a screw
    I have a hard time believing that we are dealing with a company that is brilliantly scamming us AND entirely incompetent. 

    This is a private company in a capitalist market trying to make money - your money. Give it to them, or don't - but don't fault them for trying. 
  • rebecca.g.banks
    rebecca.g.banks
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    About 45 people playing in my sector, very dead.
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