We now get a 7 day transformation time pr. ship taking of the charged armor and adding new to our Dragons. Thats 28 days for the 4 we may have some has 5 but may just go for new Lead GID.
Then we have the GID we should try to make ready for the annonced changes! And it make me wonder how is Kix view on where we should get the available shipyard time to change it all?
It seems like the timespann between Kix view on things and reality for the players are so fare apart, that it has no sane way to start it all. Yes i get that Kixeye try to force players to coin by doing this, But thats just insane.
We need some serius numbers of extra tokens for the change over added to FM just to get the old fleet tuned to new targets. Not to talk about the new GID we need finished for vxp weekend if we should try to get it ranked before we use it.
We now get a 7 day transformation time pr. ship taking of the charged armor and adding new to our Dragons. Thats 28 days for the 4 we may have some has 5 but may just go for new Lead GID.
Then we have the GID we should try to make ready for the annonced changes! And it make me wonder how is Kix view on where we should get the available shipyard time to change it all?
It seems like the timespann between Kix view on things and reality for the players are so fare apart, that it has no sane way to start it all. Yes i get that Kixeye try to force players to coin by doing this, But thats just insane.
We need some serius numbers of extra tokens for the change over added to FM just to get the old fleet tuned to new targets. Not to talk about the new GID we need finished for vxp weekend if we should try to get it ranked before we use it.
Regards.
err there's 15 id tokens in the raid. that means one week including the FM tokens and you've refit .... one week is hardly a stretch for a total of zero coins. dont be so greedy. learn some patience.
We now get a 7 day transformation time pr. ship taking of the charged armor and adding new to our Dragons. Thats 28 days for the 4 we may have some has 5 but may just go for new Lead GID.
Then we have the GID we should try to make ready for the annonced changes! And it make me wonder how is Kix view on where we should get the available shipyard time to change it all?
It seems like the timespann between Kix view on things and reality for the players are so fare apart, that it has no sane way to start it all.
Yes i get that Kixeye try to force players to coin by doing this, But thats just insane.
We need some serius numbers of extra tokens for the change over added to FM just to get the old fleet tuned to new targets. Not to talk about the new GID we need finished for vxp weekend if we should try to get it ranked before we use it.
Regards.
err there's 15 id tokens in the raid. that means one week including the FM tokens and you've refit .... one week is hardly a stretch for a total of zero coins. dont be so greedy. learn some patience.
Do you ever get bored saying the same thing every month?
Removing the 112s already????? Go ahead and remove the 117s. From what I've seen, peeps prefer multiple 112s over a single 117.
The 112s are being removed in September, the 117s in August. We wanted to give plenty of time to update/build your Inferno Dragon Fleets + Greta's Inferno Dragon.
the 112 and 117 are already new and you are already taking them away all kix is trying to do is force us to use coins more and more every freaking day, enought is enought already, give us freaking time to be ablet odue curent targets much better, i am ure kix know hardly anyone dose the 117 due to damge isnot worth the points given, so miot reather do the 112 or even the older 111 that many can do fre rally guys this FM we do every week execpt raid week, we should not be takeing massave damage in FM, for a socalled free game it sure seems to be costing more and more to just play, if you wish to get anyplace what so ever
Will the new targets have charge armor depletion like the raid top targets?
These targets do have the Draconian Anti-Charged Armor Tech, you will want Zynthonite Armor D5-XM for the best protection. I have the article above to reflect this.
We now get a 7 day transformation time pr. ship taking of the charged armor and adding new to our Dragons. Thats 28 days for the 4 we may have some has 5 but may just go for new Lead GID.
Then we have the GID we should try to make ready for the annonced changes! And it make me wonder how is Kix view on where we should get the available shipyard time to change it all?
It seems like the timespann between Kix view on things and reality for the players are so fare apart, that it has no sane way to start it all.
Yes i get that Kixeye try to force players to coin by doing this, But thats just insane.
We need some serius numbers of extra tokens for the change over added to FM just to get the old fleet tuned to new targets. Not to talk about the new GID we need finished for vxp weekend if we should try to get it ranked before we use it.
Regards.
err there's 15 id tokens in the raid. that means one week including the FM tokens and you've refit .... one week is hardly a stretch for a total of zero coins. dont be so greedy. learn some patience.
Do you ever get bored saying the same thing every month?
not quite the same thing.
this time its a ridiculously huge 15 tokens in the raid making it an absolute cakewalk to keep up. the game is being made softer and softer.
it does confuse me when people do ask where to find the shipyard time. a week. lol. not overly difficult to find.
We now get a 7 day transformation time pr. ship taking of the charged armor and adding new to our Dragons. Thats 28 days for the 4 we may have some has 5 but may just go for new Lead GID.
Then we have the GID we should try to make ready for the annonced changes! And it make me wonder how is Kix view on where we should get the available shipyard time to change it all?
It seems like the timespann between Kix view on things and reality for the players are so fare apart, that it has no sane way to start it all.
Yes i get that Kixeye try to force players to coin by doing this, But thats just insane.
We need some serius numbers of extra tokens for the change over added to FM just to get the old fleet tuned to new targets. Not to talk about the new GID we need finished for vxp weekend if we should try to get it ranked before we use it.
Regards.
err there's 15 id tokens in the raid. that means one week including the FM tokens and you've refit .... one week is hardly a stretch for a total of zero coins. dont be so greedy. learn some patience.
Do you ever get bored saying the same thing every month?
not quite the same thing.
this time its a ridiculously huge 15 tokens in the raid making it an absolute cakewalk to keep up. the game is being made softer and softer.
it does confuse me when people do ask where to find the shipyard time. a week. lol. not overly difficult to find.
15 tokens is nice. To be honest I never had a problem keeping up, it just got to be too much of a time commitment to do all the activities. Not sure if the time commitment is less than a year ago.
The 112s are being removed in September, the 117s in August. We wanted to give plenty of time to update/build your Inferno Dragon Fleets + Greta's Inferno Dragon.
That would be a reasonable thing to say --IF-- most of the mid- and upper-level players would be able to get the ID Flag in the Raid so we could use that time to build it.
But at 40,000,000 points in a raid with very difficult targets, that prize is obviously intended as a reward for the big spenders.
That the ID Flag will be available is a hoax, yet when the new targets come on-line, you'll be busy chastising players for not building the flag, you'll go into "told you so" mode and punish the victims.
You change the targets based on the assumption that most players
The direction that Kix is moving is as mentioned a few times in this thread is not and I doubt ever really was "putting players first"
I would even challenge that no one at Kix actually plays this game.
The FM as is, for me is a solid 4/10, I remember playing back when there were the 65's breaking them apart the 27's which you could auto with your mercury's. I'd play for a few hours chatting away as I was doing the FM, even though it was a chore.
Now, I hit 3 targets, all auto (as Kix has made sure that you are going to take damage - so IMO no point driving if you are only going to save 30mins or so) return to base after abut 15mins of play, repair slow time and then in 8hrs or so do it again.
The raid is no real different, hit targets that you are going to take damage in (I have no problem with that at all) but when you have the "best" hull and can't auto a 41 for insta repair, or the damage taken from an 87 target is only a few minutes shy of a 106...they have their balance WAY WRONG!!!
But as mentioned in an earlier post, apathy, I just don't care as much as I use to - will I still play, most likely, but coin, not any more.
The numbers should be a good indicator to Kix, the Players Online figure in the 31k mark, yes I know that that doesn't count for those using other platforms, and is across all Kix games....but I do remember when that number was in the 100k+ mark and you can't tell me that those extra 70k players have moved to a different playing platform to play Kix games???
April_S1 said:I can remember when over a mil used to play in raids.
We now get a 7 day transformation time pr. ship taking of the charged armor and adding new to our Dragons. Thats 28 days for the 4 we may have some has 5 but may just go for new Lead GID.
Then we have the GID we should try to make ready for the annonced changes! And it make me wonder how is Kix view on where we should get the available shipyard time to change it all?
It seems like the timespann between Kix view on things and reality for the players are so fare apart, that it has no sane way to start it all.
Yes i get that Kixeye try to force players to coin by doing this, But thats just insane.
We need some serius numbers of extra tokens for the change over added to FM just to get the old fleet tuned to new targets. Not to talk about the new GID we need finished for vxp weekend if we should try to get it ranked before we use it.
Regards.
err there's 15 id tokens in the raid. that means one week including the FM tokens and you've refit .... one week is hardly a stretch for a total of zero coins. dont be so greedy. learn some patience.
Do you ever get bored saying the same thing every month?
not quite the same thing.
this time its a ridiculously huge 15 tokens in the raid making it an absolute cakewalk to keep up. the game is being made softer and softer.
it does confuse me when people do ask where to find the shipyard time. a week. lol. not overly difficult to find.
softer and softer, you sir just keep getting dumber and dumber, take a break mate, over 7000 posts, man, you need a life
So 100,000,000 points for Greta Dragon and 15 Dragon tokens. Seems reasonable for some. My problem is it is the Forsaken Weekly Mission...not a full fledged monthly raid. This was originally set up to help people stay current, now it's another grind even if you have the good tech. If you're still using Icebreakers or Monos, imagine where the points are going if they start putting supertargets out there, it isn't to help the whales spend less time, it is to increase prize costs.
Are FM 120 and 121 tune with the proto garrison hull in mind? If not will they be re-tuned when it releases or will you can out with new targets for the proto hull?
We now get a 7 day transformation time pr. ship taking of the charged armor and adding new to our Dragons. Thats 28 days for the 4 we may have some has 5 but may just go for new Lead GID.
Then we have the GID we should try to make ready for the annonced changes! And it make me wonder how is Kix view on where we should get the available shipyard time to change it all?
It seems like the timespann between Kix view on things and reality for the players are so fare apart, that it has no sane way to start it all.
Yes i get that Kixeye try to force players to coin by doing this, But thats just insane.
We need some serius numbers of extra tokens for the change over added to FM just to get the old fleet tuned to new targets. Not to talk about the new GID we need finished for vxp weekend if we should try to get it ranked before we use it.
Regards.
err there's 15 id tokens in the raid. that means one week including the FM tokens and you've refit .... one week is hardly a stretch for a total of zero coins. dont be so greedy. learn some patience.
Do you ever get bored saying the same thing every month?
not quite the same thing.
this time its a ridiculously huge 15 tokens in the raid making it an absolute cakewalk to keep up. the game is being made softer and softer.
it does confuse me when people do ask where to find the shipyard time. a week. lol. not overly difficult to find.
You are quite talkative to support kix. Yes, there are 15d tokens for inferno dragons, but what about so many proto- ships!? We have to build em for new DUB. Did u put this fact out of equation ? And don't say there were tokens too, cos not everybody is able/willing to do those campaigns. Where do i find time in my shipyard for those ships, huh? This is the problem in this game, it consumes too much time to be really competitive, unless u coin of course, but we, free players, don't coin of course, right?
I think the armor build times should be drastically reduced since we all have to refit with the non-charged armors now. Bit unfair to us players but I think Kixeye should step in and help us for once.
I 100% agree with this. But do it more than once like once every 3 months Kixeye should step in and help us
It's a zero sum game Rampart, like Eye for an Eye said who really cares anymore, I can barley check in anymore.
You guys are clueless, the players tell you to put stability back into the game, your self serving agenda feels like you can square that by making comments that you are going to spread the change over the next couple of months. You guys have the biggest mental block in the world towards the voice of your customer.
This is SO true ( You guys have the biggest mental block in the world towards the voice of your customer.) Kixeye why can't you hear us?
No please, no more changes to FM, it's too early. And refits are not welcome at all. You don't seem to realize most players don't have the tech to defeat 117s or even 112s. Introducing the new (long awaited) flag that's supposed to help in the FM sould not be the pretext to change the targets and increase the difficulty once again and so quickly.
We now get a 7 day transformation time pr. ship taking of the charged armor and adding new to our Dragons. Thats 28 days for the 4 we may have some has 5 but may just go for new Lead GID.
Then we have the GID we should try to make ready for the annonced changes! And it make me wonder how is Kix view on where we should get the available shipyard time to change it all?
It seems like the timespann between Kix view on things and reality for the players are so fare apart, that it has no sane way to start it all.
Yes i get that Kixeye try to force players to coin by doing this, But thats just insane.
We need some serius numbers of extra tokens for the change over added to FM just to get the old fleet tuned to new targets. Not to talk about the new GID we need finished for vxp weekend if we should try to get it ranked before we use it.
Regards.
err there's 15 id tokens in the raid. that means one week including the FM tokens and you've refit .... one week is hardly a stretch for a total of zero coins. dont be so greedy. learn some patience.
Do you ever get bored saying the same thing every month?
not quite the same thing.
this time its a ridiculously huge 15 tokens in the raid making it an absolute cakewalk to keep up. the game is being made softer and softer.
it does confuse me when people do ask where to find the shipyard time. a week. lol. not overly difficult to find.
15 tokens is nice. To be honest I never had a problem keeping up, it just got to be too much of a time commitment to do all the activities. Not sure if the time commitment is less than a year ago.
Have you done an alt lately? Can one catch up?
nah no alt in the last 6 months. that is more of a time commitment that i'm too lazy for.
the only activity i'm too lazy to do much for my main is bounty. i just score my 25k points in that from doing kinda the minimum.
all the other stuff can often be autod so not really much of a seat time commitment
i'd say my raid seat time commitment has gone down significantly too. Obviously massively from the early days when you had to be glued to your chair for several days). But even from a year ago. like this raid for example, i'd knocked out my 40 million for the new hull in a couple hours - and that was only because i was impatient. Could have done it with a lot less seat time if i'd just used my mantis only and waited for them to repair.
in terms of keeping up, yes its vastly easier than a year ago for a free player. apart from those id tokens, theres another 10 or so manti, and another 10 or so manti flag, plus a bunch of others in this raid alone. let alone they run more tlcs these days (and many are autoable).
IMHO, I "m thinking not to many folks care what you folks at Kixeye do anymore, this mess you ll created is beyond repair and your move to HTML5 was nothing but a hoax to keep this game afloat, the deceit from Kixeye is never ending.
lol
^ this
kixeye wont change platforms, they are too busy chasing off the few customers they have left
We now get a 7 day transformation time pr. ship taking of the charged armor and adding new to our Dragons. Thats 28 days for the 4 we may have some has 5 but may just go for new Lead GID.
Then we have the GID we should try to make ready for the annonced changes! And it make me wonder how is Kix view on where we should get the available shipyard time to change it all?
It seems like the timespann between Kix view on things and reality for the players are so fare apart, that it has no sane way to start it all.
Yes i get that Kixeye try to force players to coin by doing this, But thats just insane.
We need some serius numbers of extra tokens for the change over added to FM just to get the old fleet tuned to new targets. Not to talk about the new GID we need finished for vxp weekend if we should try to get it ranked before we use it.
Regards.
err there's 15 id tokens in the raid. that means one week including the FM tokens and you've refit .... one week is hardly a stretch for a total of zero coins. dont be so greedy. learn some patience.
Do you ever get bored saying the same thing every month?
not quite the same thing.
this time its a ridiculously huge 15 tokens in the raid making it an absolute cakewalk to keep up. the game is being made softer and softer.
it does confuse me when people do ask where to find the shipyard time. a week. lol. not overly difficult to find.
softer and softer, you sir just keep getting dumber and dumber, take a break mate, over 7000 posts, man, you need a life
please accept my apologies if you are offended by the truth.
We now get a 7 day transformation time pr. ship taking of the charged armor and adding new to our Dragons. Thats 28 days for the 4 we may have some has 5 but may just go for new Lead GID.
Then we have the GID we should try to make ready for the annonced changes! And it make me wonder how is Kix view on where we should get the available shipyard time to change it all?
It seems like the timespann between Kix view on things and reality for the players are so fare apart, that it has no sane way to start it all.
Yes i get that Kixeye try to force players to coin by doing this, But thats just insane.
We need some serius numbers of extra tokens for the change over added to FM just to get the old fleet tuned to new targets. Not to talk about the new GID we need finished for vxp weekend if we should try to get it ranked before we use it.
Regards.
err there's 15 id tokens in the raid. that means one week including the FM tokens and you've refit .... one week is hardly a stretch for a total of zero coins. dont be so greedy. learn some patience.
Do you ever get bored saying the same thing every month?
not quite the same thing.
this time its a ridiculously huge 15 tokens in the raid making it an absolute cakewalk to keep up. the game is being made softer and softer.
it does confuse me when people do ask where to find the shipyard time. a week. lol. not overly difficult to find.
You are quite talkative to support kix. Yes, there are 15d tokens for inferno dragons, but what about so many proto- ships!? We have to build em for new DUB. Did u put this fact out of equation ? And don't say there were tokens too, cos not everybody is able/willing to do those campaigns. Where do i find time in my shipyard for those ships, huh? This is the problem in this game, it consumes too much time to be really competitive, unless u coin of course, but we, free players, don't coin of course, right?
you dont 'need' to hit dubs
having said that a number of us free players have an entire proto tide fleet built from tokens alone.
a chunk of my shipyard time is likely going to be spent on proto cents this month, as there's nothin else left that i need to build. as a free player.
if someone is not 'willing' to get tokens, then yes they should be behind. you need to put in the effort. you need to use the stepping stones provided.
the time commitment for the game is vastly less than it was. and significantly less than a year ago. particularly for the semi decent free strategy game player.
the game was once at least a little challenging - now it has been dumbed back substantially.
I actually thought the move to take the Garrison targets out of the raids was a good idea, a way for Kixeye to lighten our work load, just shows how wrong you can be.
Only difference with me is.....I saw through it from the off
Is special Countermeasure loaders IV parameter Anti-Missile Accuracy +35% influence on Sprint CM accuracy against misiles? And CM tagging works for all fleet, or only for ship with fired CM?
Then we have the GID we should try to make ready for the annonced changes! And it make me wonder how is Kix view on where we should get the available shipyard time to change it all?
It seems like the timespann between Kix view on things and reality for the players are so fare apart, that it has no sane way to start it all.
Yes i get that Kixeye try to force players to coin by doing this, But thats just insane.
We need some serius numbers of extra tokens for the change over added to FM just to get the old fleet tuned to new targets. Not to talk about the new GID we need finished for vxp weekend if we should try to get it ranked before we use it.
Regards.
Do you ever get bored saying the same thing every month?
rally guys this FM we do every week execpt raid week, we should not be takeing massave damage in FM, for a socalled free game it sure seems to be costing more and more to just play, if you wish to get anyplace what so ever
this time its a ridiculously huge 15 tokens in the raid making it an absolute cakewalk to keep up. the game is being made softer and softer.
it does confuse me when people do ask where to find the shipyard time. a week. lol. not overly difficult to find.
15 tokens is nice. To be honest I never had a problem keeping up, it just got to be too much of a time commitment to do all the activities. Not sure if the time commitment is less than a year ago.
Have you done an alt lately? Can one catch up?
But at 40,000,000 points in a raid with very difficult targets, that prize is obviously intended as a reward for the big spenders.
That the ID Flag will be available is a hoax, yet when the new targets come on-line, you'll be busy chastising players for not building the flag, you'll go into "told you so" mode and punish the victims.
You change the targets based on the assumption that most players
And refits are not welcome at all.
You don't seem to realize most players don't have the tech to defeat 117s or even 112s.
Introducing the new (long awaited) flag that's supposed to help in the FM sould not be the pretext to change the targets and increase the difficulty once again and so quickly.
I saw a player in 1 alliance coining FM
blame folks like that ( He is no longer in that alliance )
the only activity i'm too lazy to do much for my main is bounty. i just score my 25k points in that from doing kinda the minimum.
all the other stuff can often be autod so not really much of a seat time commitment
i'd say my raid seat time commitment has gone down significantly too. Obviously massively from the early days when you had to be glued to your chair for several days). But even from a year ago. like this raid for example, i'd knocked out my 40 million for the new hull in a couple hours - and that was only because i was impatient. Could have done it with a lot less seat time if i'd just used my mantis only and waited for them to repair.
in terms of keeping up, yes its vastly easier than a year ago for a free player. apart from those id tokens, theres another 10 or so manti, and another 10 or so manti flag, plus a bunch of others in this raid alone. let alone they run more tlcs these days (and many are autoable).
^ this
kixeye wont change platforms, they are too busy chasing off the few customers they have left
having said that a number of us free players have an entire proto tide fleet built from tokens alone.
a chunk of my shipyard time is likely going to be spent on proto cents this month, as there's nothin else left that i need to build. as a free player.
if someone is not 'willing' to get tokens, then yes they should be behind. you need to put in the effort. you need to use the stepping stones provided.
the time commitment for the game is vastly less than it was. and significantly less than a year ago. particularly for the semi decent free strategy game player.
the game was once at least a little challenging - now it has been dumbed back substantially.