Solution Discussion: "Ring of Fire" Exploit

  • mat.thomas.94
    mat.thomas.94
    Potential Threat
    Joined Nov 2013 Posts: 32
    The biggest problem is people hiding in friendly bubbles in wars to save their infamy tbh it makes wars boring and I'm losing interest in wars because of these cowards players. I think bubbles should only last for 4 hours and your base defenders should automatically repair that would sort out a lot of problems in the game because the 69s are the ones with the biggest mouths because they know no one can get past the friendly bubble
    mat Thomas
  • SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt
    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt
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    Joined Mar 2018 Posts: 92

    @BAD_CO said:
    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

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    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

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    @BAD_CO said: Lol....ring of fire is not the issue .........the issue is 69ing ...you already have the solution right in front of you ...use the warpath system its the right direction ..........Make all bases heal within 1 hour ...eliminate the bubble the 36 hours ......you get a 1 hour bubble then it drops and your open.....make base defense toons free repair.... (((ONLY BASE DEFENSE TOONS)) this will allow non-coiners to play and will make former and new coiners to the game coin for attacking platts increasing your revenue by 10 x......Make it so same player cant attack you over and over to eliminate bullying example 4-12 hours after before u can attack again that player ......Now if the player is online yes they can 69 1 hour at a time but here is the catch when they log out that base will open in 1 hour and every 1 hour after that allowing players who have been attacked by the 69er to get revenge ...This will make the 69er to either defend and fight to protect the infamy or get served..since we know now the game is infamy driven what better way to truly earn those infamy numbers by trying to defend it .....The revenue will increase dramtically in this game useing this method and bring back fun to the game as no one can hide and talk crap in bubble for 6 months as we wait day in and day out to attack 1 person ...And just think of the wars on the map ...Hope someone looks at this Thank you for reading Completely unreasonable and would end this game within 3 months People would never put up with being hit every hour...... that's ludicrous

    Lmao spoken like a true 69er
    
    
    
    Hardly....but I understand the overall game a lot better then you obviously do
    

    No your a 69er ....the solution is right there as i laid it out ring of fire is not the problem its the 69ers like yourself that are ruining this game and want infamy and everything else handed to you ....This is a war game not sit in bubble and act like hero for 6 months and pad infamy 

    No your "solution" is ludicrous

    Let me try and explain it to you like your a 3 year old

    Only about 10% of the game population are actively involved in PvP.....I am one of them BTW. That being said 90% of the players are "sector defenders", "farmers", "PvE players" or any other term you choose to use. They play the game for the social aspect of the game and to engage in low stress PVE activity

    They do not want to deal with the kind of game you are proposing.....they will not want to be attacked every hour and if they are forced into a situation like th at where they are under fire 24 hours a day they will simply quit

    Guess what happens if 90% of the game population walks away

    Your proposal is moronic at best

    You are a moron this is a war game and you are clearly a FARMER /69er.....you think because a base is open they will be attacked every hour you idiot ..I go days jumping around without being attacked ....Go cry somewhere else my solution is sound and would bring loads of fun back to the game and we would not be waiting for months to attack noobs like you 

    Lmao.....if you even began to understand who I am you would know how stupid that statement is

    Those that do are laughing at you

  • SUSQ-Virus
    SUSQ-Virus
    Potential Threat
    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 67
    How about if some is attacking he cant be attacked for that period, same if someone is under attack he cant attack anyone for that period, this no one can do 69 and ppl can snipe their way in to any base after the attacker finish.
  • BEAST 479
    BEAST 479
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 127
    How about if some is attacking he cant be attacked for that period, same if someone is under attack he cant attack anyone for that period, this no one can do 69 and ppl can snipe their way in to any base after the attacker finish.
    i just seen a pick on kt news of you bubbling your base while hitting another player.  i have a solution for you. stop 69 hitting loool
  • SUSQ-Virus
    SUSQ-Virus
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    Joined Oct 2013 Posts: 67
    edited 27 Apr 2018, 12:01AM
    BEAST 479 said:
    How about if some is attacking he cant be attacked for that period, same if someone is under attack he cant attack anyone for that period, this no one can do 69 and ppl can snipe their way in to any base after the attacker finish.
    i just seen a pick on kt news of you bubbling your base while hitting another player.  i have a solution for you. stop 69 hitting loool
    hahaha all do it, why should not I do the same , i gave the best solution to stop 69 that will effect me as well!
  • Lion Warrior 1249
    Lion Warrior 1249
    Greenhorn
    Joined Sep 2017 Posts: 5
    AND when I bubble them shut their global off ,,,,, chat commander cowards
  • Battle208
    Battle208
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2015 Posts: 390
    I disagree this idea. it is a war strategy and it is not a cheat or anything. anyone who complaints this strategy is a dumb player and let him/her be. Leave this game as the way it is.
    It is an absolute exploit, especially when supplemented with an auto-clicking script that allows them to attack without being hit back for hours. Then when they finish hitting or their ring of fire is cracked, they selfie.  NOT FAIR.  If you can hit then you can defend too.  Stop hiding and fight! 
    Then the real problem is Auto click and I don't see Kix fixing that ...not the ring of Fire!
  • leigh5
    leigh5
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jul 2012 Posts: 304
    just add a new spec ops called "the Referee" a unit that can attack 2 plats that are already in combat resulting in sending the 2 plats in battle home. the ops would be a one time use. the ring of fire would then still be able to be used legitimately but there would also be a legit way of countering it
  • Todd_T56
    Todd_T56
    Potential Threat
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 32
    BAD_CO said:
    Lol....ring of fire is not the issue .........the issue is 69ing ...you already have the solution right in front of you ...use the warpath system its the right direction ..........Make all bases heal within 1 hour ...eliminate the bubble the 36 hours ......you get a 1 hour bubble then it drops and your open.....make base defense toons free repair.... (((ONLY BASE DEFENSE TOONS)) this will allow non-coiners to play and will make former and new coiners to the game coin for attacking platts increasing your revenue by 10 x......Make it so same player cant attack you over and over to eliminate bullying example 4-12 hours after before u can attack again that player ......Now if the player is online yes they can 69 1 hour at a time but here is the catch when they log out that base will open in 1 hour and every 1 hour after that allowing players who have been attacked by the 69er to get revenge ...This will make the 69er to either defend and fight to protect the infamy or get served..since we know now the game is infamy driven what better way to truly earn those infamy numbers by trying to defend it .....The revenue will increase dramtically in this game useing this method and bring back fun to the game as no one can hide and talk crap in bubble for 6 months as we wait day in and day out to attack 1 person ...And just think of the wars on the map ...Hope someone looks at this Thank you for reading
    This is absolutely brilliant...Excellent Idea and can be tweaked
  • tom.montavon
    tom.montavon
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 147
    definition of 69ing is , 1 star bubble your own base, while you are attacking another players base. resulting in no opportunity for the players base to be attacked. some players have done this for a year or more. changes to toon battles will not sort the issue which is people getting a 1 star off alt while they hit a base


    before you make changes to pvp, you need to make sure it doesnt push people to play like this, like the introduction of the darkstorm did, 69 increased in main stream wars by 75% with the introduction of a unit which makes attacking easy. your evolution of the game needs to be balanced with dynamics of pvp. or you will lose waves of players like you have with other introductions
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    Tom Montavon
  • Perry299
    Perry299
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined May 2013 Posts: 4,789

    @BAD_CO said:
    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

    @BAD_CO said:

    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

    @BAD_CO said:
    
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    @BAD_CO said: Lol....ring of fire is not the issue .........the issue is 69ing ...you already have the solution right in front of you ...use the warpath system its the right direction ..........Make all bases heal within 1 hour ...eliminate the bubble the 36 hours ......you get a 1 hour bubble then it drops and your open.....make base defense toons free repair.... (((ONLY BASE DEFENSE TOONS)) this will allow non-coiners to play and will make former and new coiners to the game coin for attacking platts increasing your revenue by 10 x......Make it so same player cant attack you over and over to eliminate bullying example 4-12 hours after before u can attack again that player ......Now if the player is online yes they can 69 1 hour at a time but here is the catch when they log out that base will open in 1 hour and every 1 hour after that allowing players who have been attacked by the 69er to get revenge ...This will make the 69er to either defend and fight to protect the infamy or get served..since we know now the game is infamy driven what better way to truly earn those infamy numbers by trying to defend it .....The revenue will increase dramtically in this game useing this method and bring back fun to the game as no one can hide and talk crap in bubble for 6 months as we wait day in and day out to attack 1 person ...And just think of the wars on the map ...Hope someone looks at this Thank you for reading Completely unreasonable and would end this game within 3 months People would never put up with being hit every hour...... that's ludicrous

    Lmao spoken like a true 69er
    
    
    
    Hardly....but I understand the overall game a lot better then you obviously do
    

    No your a 69er ....the solution is right there as i laid it out ring of fire is not the problem its the 69ers like yourself that are ruining this game and want infamy and everything else handed to you ....This is a war game not sit in bubble and act like hero for 6 months and pad infamy 

    No your "solution" is ludicrous

    Let me try and explain it to you like your a 3 year old

    Only about 10% of the game population are actively involved in PvP.....I am one of them BTW. That being said 90% of the players are "sector defenders", "farmers", "PvE players" or any other term you choose to use. They play the game for the social aspect of the game and to engage in low stress PVE activity

    They do not want to deal with the kind of game you are proposing.....they will not want to be attacked every hour and if they are forced into a situation like th at where they are under fire 24 hours a day they will simply quit

    Guess what happens if 90% of the game population walks away

    Your proposal is moronic at best

    You are a moron this is a war game and you are clearly a FARMER /69er.....you think because a base is open they will be attacked every hour you idiot ..I go days jumping around without being attacked ....Go cry somewhere else my solution is sound and would bring loads of fun back to the game and we would not be waiting for months to attack noobs like you 

    Lmao.....if you even began to understand who I am you would know how stupid that statement is

    Those that do are laughing at you

    i find that chit funny.. you get them everytime :D 
    "Don't cry, Don't whine, it's a strategic game so either you GIT GUD or you Go Home"
  • HH-DOZER
    HH-DOZER
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jun 2014 Posts: 21
    It is clear that Goldendoodle has misunderstood what is meant by a 69, ring of fire is not a 69.
    A 69 is a bubble given to a friends base whilst that friend is attacking an enemy base so that once that attack is finished he is safe in a bubble and cannot be hit back...
    Perhaps having a timer that restricts how frequently you can hit a base might go someway to prevent 2 players from repeating this tactic over and over in a sector..
  • ShakeNBake98
    ShakeNBake98
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2015 Posts: 49
    no thanks keep it the same you guys are gonna make this way worse then it already is i swear what you proposed is the dumbest idea ever sorry just being honest

    come get sum 
  • BAD_CO
    BAD_CO
    Greenhorn
    Joined Jan 2016 Posts: 14

    @BAD_CO said:
    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

    @BAD_CO said:

    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

    @BAD_CO said:
    
    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:
    

    @BAD_CO said: Lol....ring of fire is not the issue .........the issue is 69ing ...you already have the solution right in front of you ...use the warpath system its the right direction ..........Make all bases heal within 1 hour ...eliminate the bubble the 36 hours ......you get a 1 hour bubble then it drops and your open.....make base defense toons free repair.... (((ONLY BASE DEFENSE TOONS)) this will allow non-coiners to play and will make former and new coiners to the game coin for attacking platts increasing your revenue by 10 x......Make it so same player cant attack you over and over to eliminate bullying example 4-12 hours after before u can attack again that player ......Now if the player is online yes they can 69 1 hour at a time but here is the catch when they log out that base will open in 1 hour and every 1 hour after that allowing players who have been attacked by the 69er to get revenge ...This will make the 69er to either defend and fight to protect the infamy or get served..since we know now the game is infamy driven what better way to truly earn those infamy numbers by trying to defend it .....The revenue will increase dramtically in this game useing this method and bring back fun to the game as no one can hide and talk crap in bubble for 6 months as we wait day in and day out to attack 1 person ...And just think of the wars on the map ...Hope someone looks at this Thank you for reading Completely unreasonable and would end this game within 3 months People would never put up with being hit every hour...... that's ludicrous

    Lmao spoken like a true 69er
    
    
    
    Hardly....but I understand the overall game a lot better then you obviously do
    

    No your a 69er ....the solution is right there as i laid it out ring of fire is not the problem its the 69ers like yourself that are ruining this game and want infamy and everything else handed to you ....This is a war game not sit in bubble and act like hero for 6 months and pad infamy 

    No your "solution" is ludicrous

    Let me try and explain it to you like your a 3 year old

    Only about 10% of the game population are actively involved in PvP.....I am one of them BTW. That being said 90% of the players are "sector defenders", "farmers", "PvE players" or any other term you choose to use. They play the game for the social aspect of the game and to engage in low stress PVE activity

    They do not want to deal with the kind of game you are proposing.....they will not want to be attacked every hour and if they are forced into a situation like th at where they are under fire 24 hours a day they will simply quit

    Guess what happens if 90% of the game population walks away

    Your proposal is moronic at best

    You are a moron this is a war game and you are clearly a FARMER /69er.....you think because a base is open they will be attacked every hour you idiot ..I go days jumping around without being attacked ....Go cry somewhere else my solution is sound and would bring loads of fun back to the game and we would not be waiting for months to attack noobs like you 

    Lmao.....if you even began to understand who I am you would know how stupid that statement is

    Those that do are laughing at you

    I know who you are NOOB 69er and FARMER ..who wants to protect his 1 year bubble stop crying we know your against any positive change concerning your 69 
  • kixeyeuser_146614202_28048_8516476
    kixeyeuser_146614202_28048_8516476
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    Joined May 2015 Posts: 80
    leigh5 said:
    just add a new spec ops called "the Referee" a unit that can attack 2 plats that are already in combat resulting in sending the 2 plats in battle home. the ops would be a one time use. the ring of fire would then still be able to be used legitimately but there would also be a legit way of countering it
    mmmmmmmmm not a bad freaking idea!   LOL  Problem is these guys lock 3 deep and more.   Cracking it would make that op extremely expensive to use.  Maybe if there was a time limit of 15 to 30 minutes before the op runs out, it might work.  Would give the player time to bust rings and toon snipe against toons that aren't locked.
  • Larry D Elliott
    Larry D Elliott
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Oct 2012 Posts: 473
    Goldennoodle you might as well also call the use of friendly bubbles a exploit also as this is a flawed tactic been plaquing the game for a long time . I myself have no problem with the 69 exploit you just got to know when to attack 1 plat if you time it right you can do it. Idon't use this as I do feel its a exploit . but so is friendly bubbles. which have been around for a very long time . And I do consider it a exploit as the offender gets to sit rant in chat , and all while being protected by their friendly bubble ! now some say this is a tactic ok so is 69 exploit .which both should be solved . I saw a post a couple years back and talked about revenge attacks. maybe you can find it. but that would solve the self bubble exploit
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  • SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt
    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt
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    Joined Mar 2018 Posts: 92

    @Perry299 said:
    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

    @BAD_CO said:

    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

    @BAD_CO said:
    
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    @BAD_CO said: SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

    @BAD_CO said:    Lol....ring of fire is not the issue .........the issue is 69ing ...you already have the solution right in front of you ...use the warpath system its the right direction ..........Make all bases heal within 1 hour ...eliminate the bubble the 36 hours ......you get a 1 hour bubble then it drops and your open.....make base defense toons free repair.... (((ONLY BASE DEFENSE TOONS)) this will allow non-coiners to play and will make former and new coiners to the game coin for attacking platts increasing your revenue by 10 x......Make it so same player cant attack you over and over to eliminate bullying example 4-12 hours after before u can attack again that player ......Now if the player is online yes they can 69 1 hour at a time but here is the catch when they log out that base will open in 1 hour and every 1 hour after that allowing players who have been attacked by the 69er to get revenge ...This will make the 69er to either defend and fight to protect the infamy or get served..since we know now the game is infamy driven what better way to truly earn those infamy numbers by trying to defend it .....The revenue will increase dramtically in this game useing this method and bring back fun to the game as no one can hide and talk crap in bubble for 6 months as we wait day in and day out to attack 1 person ...And just think of the wars on the map ...Hope someone looks at this Thank you for reading        Completely unreasonable and would end this game within 3 months    People would never put up with being hit every hour...... that's ludicrous
    

    Lmao spoken like a true 69er Hardly....but I understand the overall game a lot better then you obviously do

    No your a 69er ....the solution is right there as i laid it out ring of fire is not the problem its the 69ers like yourself that are ruining this game and want infamy and everything else handed to you ....This is a war game not sit in bubble and act like hero for 6 months and pad infamy 
    
    
    
    No your "solution" is ludicrous
    
    Let me try and explain it to you like your a 3 year old
    
    Only about 10% of the game population are actively involved in PvP.....I am one of them BTW. That being said 90% of the players are "sector defenders", "farmers", "PvE players" or any other term you choose to use. They play the game for the social aspect of the game and to engage in low stress PVE activity
    
    They do not want to deal with the kind of game you are proposing.....they will not want to be attacked every hour and if they are forced into a situation like th at where they are under fire 24 hours a day they will simply quit
    
    Guess what happens if 90% of the game population walks away
    
    Your proposal is moronic at best
    

    You are a moron this is a war game and you are clearly a FARMER /69er.....you think because a base is open they will be attacked every hour you idiot ..I go days jumping around without being attacked ....Go cry somewhere else my solution is sound and would bring loads of fun back to the game and we would not be waiting for months to attack noobs like you 

    Lmao.....if you even began to understand who I am you would know how stupid that statement is

    Those that do are laughing at you

    i find that chit funny.. you get them everytime :D 

    Yup.......I dont ever PvP

    Call me Farmer Red

  • kixeyeuser_146614202_28048_8516476
    kixeyeuser_146614202_28048_8516476
    Potential Threat
    Joined May 2015 Posts: 80
    edited 27 Apr 2018, 12:51AM
    leigh5 said:
    just add a new spec ops called "the Referee" a unit that can attack 2 plats that are already in combat resulting in sending the 2 plats in battle home. the ops would be a one time use. the ring of fire would then still be able to be used legitimately but there would also be a legit way of countering it
    I keep thinking back to this and it's an awesome and simple idea.  Great job.  Only way to deter the player with this activated op is to snipe him with a free toon.  Otherwise it's bye bye ring of fire.  The potential sacrifice to it is if they can't switch ops before they hit the actual base, they won't be able to activate slow mo or it's electric for their hit.   This is genius.  You better get intouch with Burny or fixer or whoever to claim your idea asap!  Don't let any of these noobs steal your glory.  You got my vote.   I like my own ideas as well for which I started a thread on but it's admittedly a far more complicated idea to execute.  Yours was so simple that I could slap myself for not thinking of it myself.  High 5! :wink:
  • JB_Rogue_Jr
    JB_Rogue_Jr
    Potential Threat
    Joined Dec 2015 Posts: 29
    edited 27 Apr 2018, 12:58AM
    i play war commander a lot .. every day... and in my group we jump often to fight. .. if you remove the one method we have to protect our bases why would we ever jump to where we are outnumbered again. this would leave us at a serious disadvantage that wel to be honest  ends our play in other sectors to get infamy. .. so you the company will lose big dollars we do no longer spend to repair all our attk toons.. really guys this is NOT ONE OF YOUR BETTER IDEAS.. also to note.. i do not have the fastest net .. this does help equal that out some though i still get beat by those who do have a good net and system.. my slower net is already at a huge disadvantage in play. you do this you end my pvp play period.  as well as my gameplay and future coins i may add to my acct
  • Storm_Twist
    Storm_Twist
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2014 Posts: 45
    Hello Sr. CM_Burny, I Just wanna say Tip for PVP Eventwhen i rellocate my base in the second setor always going down my game making reconnect, in middle the war setor we players lost lot for time and lost our toon in the reconnection wait for shockwave has crashed,
    we lost everything, waiting in the critical time, to open the game not just a base we have wait to open the map sometimes to enter in battle e sent toons in defense go to base because the toons can't sent before because the game shockwave Flash has crashed or make reconnect, Tip for the problem some button when we open the base with on attack saying... return toon to base or stop the attack would be a good for all the damage we take with the reconnection problems or  shockwave Flash has crashed. i hope you listen to me.
  • Steve
    Steve
    Greenhorn
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 5
    I jump to wars a fair bit, I also defend my home sector. I use the ring of fire also for my base, does people still get in YES. Can I get into other peoples bases with a ring of fire, again yes. I normally send 2-4 plats to go at it from different angles. Also if you have a few teammates helping that works also. So does Kixeye need to do anything, I don't think so. People just needs to stop crying and actually think of a strategy. it's just that easy
  • SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt
    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt
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    Joined Mar 2018 Posts: 92

    @BAD_CO said:
    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

    @BAD_CO said:

    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

    @BAD_CO said:
    
    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:
    

    @BAD_CO said: SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt said:

    @BAD_CO said:    Lol....ring of fire is not the issue .........the issue is 69ing ...you already have the solution right in front of you ...use the warpath system its the right direction ..........Make all bases heal within 1 hour ...eliminate the bubble the 36 hours ......you get a 1 hour bubble then it drops and your open.....make base defense toons free repair.... (((ONLY BASE DEFENSE TOONS)) this will allow non-coiners to play and will make former and new coiners to the game coin for attacking platts increasing your revenue by 10 x......Make it so same player cant attack you over and over to eliminate bullying example 4-12 hours after before u can attack again that player ......Now if the player is online yes they can 69 1 hour at a time but here is the catch when they log out that base will open in 1 hour and every 1 hour after that allowing players who have been attacked by the 69er to get revenge ...This will make the 69er to either defend and fight to protect the infamy or get served..since we know now the game is infamy driven what better way to truly earn those infamy numbers by trying to defend it .....The revenue will increase dramtically in this game useing this method and bring back fun to the game as no one can hide and talk crap in bubble for 6 months as we wait day in and day out to attack 1 person ...And just think of the wars on the map ...Hope someone looks at this Thank you for reading        Completely unreasonable and would end this game within 3 months    People would never put up with being hit every hour...... that's ludicrous
    

    Lmao spoken like a true 69er Hardly....but I understand the overall game a lot better then you obviously do

    No your a 69er ....the solution is right there as i laid it out ring of fire is not the problem its the 69ers like yourself that are ruining this game and want infamy and everything else handed to you ....This is a war game not sit in bubble and act like hero for 6 months and pad infamy 
    
    
    
    No your "solution" is ludicrous
    
    Let me try and explain it to you like your a 3 year old
    
    Only about 10% of the game population are actively involved in PvP.....I am one of them BTW. That being said 90% of the players are "sector defenders", "farmers", "PvE players" or any other term you choose to use. They play the game for the social aspect of the game and to engage in low stress PVE activity
    
    They do not want to deal with the kind of game you are proposing.....they will not want to be attacked every hour and if they are forced into a situation like th at where they are under fire 24 hours a day they will simply quit
    
    Guess what happens if 90% of the game population walks away
    
    Your proposal is moronic at best
    

    You are a moron this is a war game and you are clearly a FARMER /69er.....you think because a base is open they will be attacked every hour you idiot ..I go days jumping around without being attacked ....Go cry somewhere else my solution is sound and would bring loads of fun back to the game and we would not be waiting for months to attack noobs like you 

    Lmao.....if you even began to understand who I am you would know how stupid that statement is

    Those that do are laughing at you

    I know who you are NOOB 69er and FARMER ..who wants to protect his 1 year bubble stop crying we know your against any positive change concerning your 69 

    Lol.....ok noob

  • V1KIN-BERSERKER
    V1KIN-BERSERKER
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Feb 2014 Posts: 496
    Man its end of the world for some?  Cant PVP without being able to lock attackers out of your base?   For everyone of those who say oh no i wont coin anymore because my base might get hit theres just as many who dont coin because when their sector gets invaded full of 69ers/ring of fires alt accounts  they cant fight back effectivly  or if invading a sector the worth while targets  self bubble so no reason or need to coinanything  so thats a wash on the coin arguement.  

    No one says you still cant defend your base and use plats around your base to fight or have your friends fight others trying to get in your base . Some of the funnest times is fighting off a bunch of attackers. Holding diks around your base is weak , lame scared infamy **** tactic . 
  • ThePoseidon
    ThePoseidon
    Potential Threat
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 82
    Honestly, the tactic itself, I have no issue with whatsoever. It requires two active teammates to keep the ring going well. 
    The issue lies in the application of that tactic. 

    Exploiting Applications: 
    • Application 1: Using a alt account as the "allied player" which results in not having to communicate with anyone. This allows you to jump into a sector, instantly set up a Ring, hit a base or two then be ready to jump out the moment that timer hits 0.
    • Application 2: Using a high level alt to self-bubble the moment the Ring gets a single hit in
    Basically, using a alt account instead of another player. That's where the biggest issue lies.

    Good applications:
    • Using a voice chat to talk to a team mate, agree on roles: Attacker and Defender. Decide on when to jump and then the Defender instantly protect the Attacker's base. 
    • Attacking a enemy player and using the ring to block off any of the enemies allies from getting in while your attacker does his job

    Basically, if you actually do it with a team mate, it's just a good team play. If you're using a alt account or, as mentioned in the OP, using a script to keep it going, that's bad. 

    I disagree with the whole moral thing though. Killing a good teamwork strategy due to the exploiters is just making it harder for the legit players. You know those exploiters will find some new thing to exploit within the week :P
  • ShotgunBilly
    ShotgunBilly
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2016 Posts: 460
    leigh5 said:
    just add a new spec ops called "the Referee" a unit that can attack 2 plats that are already in combat resulting in sending the 2 plats in battle home. the ops would be a one time use. the ring of fire would then still be able to be used legitimately but there would also be a legit way of countering it
    I keep thinking back to this and it's an awesome and simple idea.  Great job.  Only way to deter the player with this activated op is to snipe him with a free toon.  Otherwise it's bye bye ring of fire.  The potential sacrifice to it is if they can't switch ops before they hit the actual base, they won't be able to activate slow mo or it's electric for their hit.   This is genius.  You better get intouch with Burny or fixer or whoever to claim your idea asap!  Don't let any of these noobs steal your glory.  You got my vote.   I like my own ideas as well for which I started a thread on but it's admittedly a far more complicated idea to execute.  Yours was so simple that I could slap myself for not thinking of it myself.  High 5! :wink:
    It could be listed under "Tactical Op". You would be sacrificing Hookers for instance, not Elec, or Slow Mo. 
  • ThePoseidon
    ThePoseidon
    Potential Threat
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 82
    I dont think any of the ideas here are a solution. Remember... you have to be careful what you ask for with Kixeye or you can get burned. And its hard to get something reversed once implemented.

    We basically have 2 issues in the game.....

    (1.) 69'ing as its called....When a Player1 is attacking Enemy, while Player2 (Friend of Player1 or Alt) is bubbling Player1 Base. Thus Player1 can no longer be retaliated against because he will be in a bubble. This can be repeated as needed.

    (2.) Ring of Fire as its called.... This can be done in any various combinations but usually require the linking of Platoons around a Base in attack mode without actually destroying the platoon. This is usually done using either an Alt or Friends Platoons and can be anywhere from 1 plat deep or 10 plats deep depending how many friends you have and can last forever to keep your base from being attacked....lol

    Kixeye solution.......

    The main issue with “69ing” is the repeatability. It’s the fact that a player can infinitely restart battles at no cost to themselves. To combat this, we are proposing the following:

    All platoons have a property called Morale;

    Losing a PVP battle results in your platoon having Low Morale;

    If a platoon with Low Morale loses a PVP battle, they are instantly sent back to base (just like if you’d retreated);

    Sending a platoon to your base resets its Morale to full; and

    Low Morale platoons will have an icon above them that indicates their state.

    ====================================================

    My Opinion.....

    I get Kixeye is trying to make the masses Happy, but this solution will create allot of unforeseen issues that players will complain about later. If Kixeye implements this solution, it will affect all Defensive Platoon Play and Sniping as we know it. There will be no more Holding a Friends Platoon to keep it from being attacked while your waiting for his other Platoons to arrive. There will be no more Holding a Buddies Base to keep it from being attacked when it gets Swarmed by Enemy. And the Big One will be.... If you Snipe an Enemy Platoon, then find you dont have the right units to kill it. Your Platoon will loose and be sent back to base. If your in a war there is allot of Sniping going on. This will affect how Platoons are used on the map and greatly affect how wars are fought. We should already learn from one of Kixeye other Great Changes....The Retreat Button...I'm already tired of people being able to retreat a Platoon after attacking my base. I'm not allowed to attack it nor are my friends. Because they Retreat It...then the person that attacks me gets a Free Pass all they way back to his base...... :s

    I dont know about you all but I would rather they fix the real issue....Stop Auto-Clickers from being used in game

    Stop auto-clickers, deal with alt accounts within the same sector and stop, or at least make it harder, to use scripts within the game.

    That alone would fix a whole lot of issues in the game right now... 
  • maligator
    maligator
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 153
    I dont think any of the ideas here are a solution. Remember... you have to be careful what you ask for with Kixeye or you can get burned. And its hard to get something reversed once implemented.

    We basically have 2 issues in the game.....

    (1.) 69'ing as its called....When a Player1 is attacking Enemy, while Player2 (Friend of Player1 or Alt) is bubbling Player1 Base. Thus Player1 can no longer be retaliated against because he will be in a bubble. This can be repeated as needed.

    (2.) Ring of Fire as its called.... This can be done in any various combinations but usually require the linking of Platoons around a Base in attack mode without actually destroying the platoon. This is usually done using either an Alt or Friends Platoons and can be anywhere from 1 plat deep or 10 plats deep depending how many friends you have and can last forever to keep your base from being attacked....lol

    Kixeye solution.......

    The main issue with “69ing” is the repeatability. It’s the fact that a player can infinitely restart battles at no cost to themselves. To combat this, we are proposing the following:

    All platoons have a property called Morale;

    Losing a PVP battle results in your platoon having Low Morale;

    If a platoon with Low Morale loses a PVP battle, they are instantly sent back to base (just like if you’d retreated);

    Sending a platoon to your base resets its Morale to full; and

    Low Morale platoons will have an icon above them that indicates their state.

    ====================================================

    My Opinion.....

    I get Kixeye is trying to make the masses Happy, but this solution will create allot of unforeseen issues that players will complain about later. If Kixeye implements this solution, it will affect all Defensive Platoon Play and Sniping as we know it. There will be no more Holding a Friends Platoon to keep it from being attacked while your waiting for his other Platoons to arrive. There will be no more Holding a Buddies Base to keep it from being attacked when it gets Swarmed by Enemy. And the Big One will be.... If you Snipe an Enemy Platoon, then find you dont have the right units to kill it. Your Platoon will loose and be sent back to base. If your in a war there is allot of Sniping going on. This will affect how Platoons are used on the map and greatly affect how wars are fought. We should already learn from one of Kixeye other Great Changes....The Retreat Button...I'm already tired of people being able to retreat a Platoon after attacking my base. I'm not allowed to attack it nor are my friends. Because they Retreat It...then the person that attacks me gets a Free Pass all they way back to his base...... :s

    I dont know about you all but I would rather they fix the real issue....Stop Auto-Clickers from being used in game

    THIS
  • Daddysylem
    Daddysylem
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 304
    edited 27 Apr 2018, 2:15AM
    leigh5 said:
    just add a new spec ops called "the Referee" a unit that can attack 2 plats that are already in combat resulting in sending the 2 plats in battle home. the ops would be a one time use. the ring of fire would then still be able to be used legitimately but there would also be a legit way of countering it
    I keep thinking back to this and it's an awesome and simple idea.  Great job.  Only way to deter the player with this activated op is to snipe him with a free toon.  Otherwise it's bye bye ring of fire.  The potential sacrifice to it is if they can't switch ops before they hit the actual base, they won't be able to activate slow mo or it's electric for their hit.   This is genius.  You better get intouch with Burny or fixer or whoever to claim your idea asap!  Don't let any of these noobs steal your glory.  You got my vote.   I like my own ideas as well for which I started a thread on but it's admittedly a far more complicated idea to execute.  Yours was so simple that I could slap myself for not thinking of it myself.  High 5! :wink:

    Auto clickers are a problem, but this could solve the Ring of Fire. You got my vote..... :)


    But I dont think anything can solve 69'ing. I cant see any way to keep my friend from attacking my base while I'm bubbling another base..


    I may be Old but I'm Way Smarter than you.. :-)
    And I still have no idea why I do this.
  • scott mc d
    scott mc d
    Greenhorn
    Joined Sep 2013 Posts: 8
    i agree with the people on players running the ring of fire around there bases that use an auto clicker should be combated but people that do this without the aid of the autoclicker i see no harm in if you work together with your team mates these rings of fire can be broken adding to the fun of the hit so to speak but i do agree with the autoclick part as this destroys the fun just my opinion so now thanks to the autoclickers we can not defend the outside of our bases .
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