Solution Discussion: "Ring of Fire" Exploit

  • Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
    Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Apr 2017 Posts: 361
    This is the dumbest f-ing idea ever. You do this and people will stop making locks around their bases and they will just bubble them instead while they are hitting. At least with the locks there is a chance to break them if you have fast internet. 
    well bro it seems ur only smart one here lol :P
    everyone wants GIF
  • NEW---YORK
    NEW---YORK
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Feb 2014 Posts: 274

    @xxCroftYxx said:
    Mohcen.S said:

    I like the idea, but what about the self bubbling, many players using other accounts to bubble them main bases while attacking, or calling another freind to attack them and get 1 star... That means a victory for that platoon and it wont sent back to the base with 0 Morale!

    To fight this im suggesting a perma dammage protection for all players being attacked from the same player, i mean if u get attacked by a player he can't attack u back for a limited time like warpath, e.g: if u gt attacked by X player u'll get the actual 36hours for ur base, and 36hrs protection from that X player, if u pop that bubble many will be able to attack u again but that X player!

    Well 36hrs is way too long, but a 12hrs should be a good period to stop that player hitting the same base for a 69..

    This wont work for the genuine cases where an enemy keeps poping and nobody can hit him back. maybe a 10 min window would help but that's about it. 

    Tottal agree with ya! And my idea needs an improvement ofc.. 10min or 7min also could work

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  • Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
    Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
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    Joined Apr 2017 Posts: 361

    Ring of fire never works in our sector thgeres to many of us on fast nets and smart devices and the friendlies have always been a part of the game since live battles and thorium infamy ect but if your going to make a change to it why not make the base PvP like warpath but you can only attack a base once every four hours or any certain time thats just an example

    this makes non sense bro
    everyone wants GIF
  • snydersh
    snydersh
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    Joined Apr 2014 Posts: 3,496
    This is the dumbest f-ing idea ever. You do this and people will stop making locks around their bases and they will just bubble them instead while they are hitting. At least with the locks there is a chance to break them if you have fast internet. 
    well bro it seems ur only smart one here lol :P
    fast net is usually useless against people that use click bots. they can stay locked as long as they want
    don't read the post too long or you might not see me coming up behind you. ;)
  • Terry_B832
    Terry_B832
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 43
    This is the dumbest f-ing idea ever. You do this and people will stop making locks around their bases and they will just bubble them instead while they are hitting. At least with the locks there is a chance to break them if you have fast internet. 

    Figures you wouldn't agree with this. This is your favorite tactic. I have vids showing your restart attack's in under 1 sec keeping people from breaking through the ring of fire. 
  • FBHO
    FBHO
    Master Tactician
    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 2,081
    One thing - I like to surround my base with strong plats to make attackers take damage just to get in. 
    I would not want them to be able to send my plats home for free by just attacking them with a buggy (usually from a low level account) & then waiting for the time to run out. 
  • Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
    Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Apr 2017 Posts: 361
    This is the dumbest f-ing idea ever. You do this and people will stop making locks around their bases and they will just bubble them instead while they are hitting. At least with the locks there is a chance to break them if you have fast internet. 

    Figures you wouldn't agree with this. This is your favorite tactic. I have vids showing your restart attack's in under 1 sec keeping people from breaking through the ring of fire. 
    dont blame people who love my 69 technique plz
    everyone wants GIF
  • nametagg0
    nametagg0
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2016 Posts: 5,376
    edited 26 Apr 2018, 8:57PM
    IF I am reading this correctly basically if a player designs 6 powerful platoons that they worked their butts off for in war commander and someone else attacks them while their offline the defending players platoons will be sent to their bases after so long and then their bases will be wide open for hits while the defender is offline. So basically your fixing a game "tactic" with an exploit which will be exploited.  Basically if were offline the defender is now more screwed then he/she was to begin with. With this update we cannot even put 6 of our own hard-earned units/platoons around our bases and defend ourselves. 
    it sends the defeated toon back, if you dont kill a toon in a tvt battle its a loss, in that scenario the attacker would be sent back to base.


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      the pessimist looks down and loses the path
      the strategist looks forward and adjusts accordingly" 
  • Terry_B832
    Terry_B832
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    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 43
    This is the dumbest f-ing idea ever. You do this and people will stop making locks around their bases and they will just bubble them instead while they are hitting. At least with the locks there is a chance to break them if you have fast internet. 

    Figures you wouldn't agree with this. This is your favorite tactic. I have vids showing your restart attack's in under 1 sec keeping people from breaking through the ring of fire. 
    dont blame people who love my 69 technique plz

    Rick this reply was not towards you get over yourself.
  • GodScope
    GodScope
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    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 91
    i for one like this, people are no longer going to be able to be p*ssies and hide behind 30 toons attacking eachother. the only issue i have is, i am much like Pascal, when i go to bed, if i haven't been flattened online by an enemy, i have a friend give me a 1 star so when i wake up and get in game the next day, i can pop and have fun again without giving someone a free shot at my base while i'm offline. might i suggest instead of doing all this re-writing, just re-write the DropShip spec op to where it can stack and unlimited amount of times, and dropships can attack other dropships??? make them 25k medals each in the gear store IDC, just making it so DropShips can stack unlimited takes away from people "red ring" thier base or "69ing" . to clarify, the act of 69ing, is having someone bubble your base while you flatten someone else, THAT is what's annoying, THAT is what needs to stop
    GodScope
  • DEJAVU SQUAD
    DEJAVU SQUAD
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    Joined Feb 2014 Posts: 32
    How exactly will this fix the 69? are you sure you are trying to fix the same 69 we have been talking about?? 
    Ring of fire can always be counter attack, but not the ACTUAL 69 where there guy gets the bubble himself...
  • Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
    Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Apr 2017 Posts: 361
    edited 26 Apr 2018, 9:00PM
    GodScope said:
    i for one like this, people are no longer going to be able to be p*ssies and hide behind 30 toons attacking eachother. the only issue i have is, i am much like Pascal, when i go to bed, if i haven't been flattened online by an enemy, i have a friend give me a 1 star so when i wake up and get in game the next day, i can pop and have fun again without giving someone a free shot at my base while i'm offline. might i suggest instead of doing all this re-writing, just re-write the DropShip spec op to where it can stack and unlimited amount of times, and dropships can attack other dropships??? make them 25k medals each in the gear store IDC, just making it so DropShips can stack unlimited takes away from people "red ring" thier base or "69ing" . to clarify, the act of 69ing, is having someone bubble your base while you flatten someone else, THAT is what's annoying, THAT is what needs to stop
    bro i dont know what even to say.. thats a briliant idea, i like it, ur smart, keep going ;) actually we should start a vote about dropships coz they can solve this problem
    everyone wants GIF
  • Goldendoodle
    Goldendoodle
    WC Game Team
    Joined Aug 2017 Posts: 98
    edited 26 Apr 2018, 9:00PM
    nametagg0 said:
    4 questions:

     * Will you have a bar that says how much moral a platoon has?
    * How many battles can a platoon lose before running away?
    * will there be modifiers to how much moral is lost?
    for example if one player kills a juggernaught in the enemy platoon but it took him the 6 minutes of an attack to do so, does the fact that the platoon had a statistical victory over the other platoon affect how much moral is lost?
    * does this affect pve?

    • If a platoon is in a Low Morale state, there will be an icon showing that. Platoons that are not in Low Morale will appear as normal.
    • Two PVP losses without returning to base will cause the platoon to retreat.
    • That is a good suggestion for the future. Right now, there are only two proposed states: Full Morale, or Low Morale. 
    • No, it does not.

    Regards,
    Goldendoodle
  • Axel L
    Axel L
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 11,107
    FBHO said:
    One thing - I like to surround my base with strong plats to make attackers take damage just to get in. 
    I would not want them to be able to send my plats home for free by just attacking them with a buggy (usually from a low level account) & then waiting for the time to run out. 
    It's only the losing platoon which will be send back home automatically. If they won't be able to destroy your platoon if I have read it correctly, they should still stand on the map.
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  • nametagg0
    nametagg0
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2016 Posts: 5,376
    nametagg0 said:
    4 questions:

     * Will you have a bar that says how much moral a platoon has?
    * How many battles can a platoon lose before running away?
    * will there be modifiers to how much moral is lost?
    for example if one player kills a juggernaught in the enemy platoon but it took him the 6 minutes of an attack to do so, does the fact that the platoon had a statistical victory over the other platoon affect how much moral is lost?
    * does this affect pve?

    • If a platoon is in a Low Morale state, there will be an icon showing that. Platoons that are not in Low Morale will appear as normal.
    • Two PVP losses without returning to base will cause the platoon to retreat.
    • That is a good suggestion for the future. Right now, there are only two proposed states: Full Morale, or Low Morale. 
    • No, it does not.

    Regards,
    Goldendoodle
    thank you : )
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    "the optimist looks up and loses his footing.
      the pessimist looks down and loses the path
      the strategist looks forward and adjusts accordingly" 
  • Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
    Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
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    Joined Apr 2017 Posts: 361
    yeh so bringing dropships cool idea
    everyone wants GIF
  • Red_Handed
    Red_Handed
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    Joined Aug 2015 Posts: 2,209
    You spoke repeatedly about "69ing" but throughout your rhetoric it sounded as if you were actually addressing what is referred to as "the ring of fire". To 69 is to attack a friend's base while they attack your base netting the end result of you both in bubbles. Is that now an exploit or just the ring of fire? Your terminology is confusing.
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  • MajorAzhole
    MajorAzhole
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    Joined Jul 2014 Posts: 1,171
    Smart solution.  
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  • HAITHAM-DEATH
    HAITHAM-DEATH
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    Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 35

    Great solution ! Hope this will happen soon !

    GLORY_Me !
  • Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
    Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
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    Joined Apr 2017 Posts: 361

    Great solution ! Hope this will happen soon !

    hi boss, i hope it happens soon 2 !!
    everyone wants GIF
  • Axel L
    Axel L
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 11,107
    You spoke repeatedly about "69ing" but throughout your rhetoric it sounded as if you were actually addressing what is referred to as "the ring of fire". To 69 is to attack a friend's base while they attack your base netting the end result of you both in bubbles. Is that now an exploit or just the ring of fire? Your terminology is confusing.
    It could then be because this term has got multiple different definitions. I do prefer the term "Ring of Fire" mainly due to the fact that it's a bit more self explaining.

    For those who aren't experienced with some of the W terms created by the community. The "Ring of Fire" is derived from platoons attacking around a base like a ring and fire is a different word for platoon fighting. On the other hand, I have no clue about the origin of the term called "69ing".
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  • nametagg0
    nametagg0
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Jan 2016 Posts: 5,376
    Axel L said:
    You spoke repeatedly about "69ing" but throughout your rhetoric it sounded as if you were actually addressing what is referred to as "the ring of fire". To 69 is to attack a friend's base while they attack your base netting the end result of you both in bubbles. Is that now an exploit or just the ring of fire? Your terminology is confusing.
    It could then be because this term has got multiple different definitions. I do prefer the term "Ring of Fire" mainly due to the fact that it's a bit more self explaining.

    For those who aren't experienced with some of the W terms created by the community. The "Ring of Fire" is derived from platoons attacking around a base like a ring and fire is a different word for platoon fighting. On the other hand, I have no clue about the origin of the term called "69ing".
    the origin of 69ing is a bit too adult for the forums but if you remember what the community used to call bubbles then you can probably get the idea
    Image result for free to play vs pay to win gif

    "the optimist looks up and loses his footing.
      the pessimist looks down and loses the path
      the strategist looks forward and adjusts accordingly" 
  • xxCroftYxx
    xxCroftYxx
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    Joined Mar 2017 Posts: 1,154
    nametagg0 said:
    Axel L said:
    You spoke repeatedly about "69ing" but throughout your rhetoric it sounded as if you were actually addressing what is referred to as "the ring of fire". To 69 is to attack a friend's base while they attack your base netting the end result of you both in bubbles. Is that now an exploit or just the ring of fire? Your terminology is confusing.
    It could then be because this term has got multiple different definitions. I do prefer the term "Ring of Fire" mainly due to the fact that it's a bit more self explaining.

    For those who aren't experienced with some of the W terms created by the community. The "Ring of Fire" is derived from platoons attacking around a base like a ring and fire is a different word for platoon fighting. On the other hand, I have no clue about the origin of the term called "69ing".
    the origin of 69ing is a bit too adult for the forums but if you remember what the community used to call bubbles then you can probably get the idea

    Loool 
  • SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt
    SoBadDoesTheTruthHurt
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    edited 26 Apr 2018, 11:44PM

    @Pascal Wolf said:
    Ricksanchez said:


    Pascal Wolf said:

    Ricksanchez stop disliking other people commends probely you have zero infamy and you are a farmer ??? i bet you i am right 

    https://www.kixeye.com/forum/discussion/733377 this is me, enjoy

    correct zero infamy 

    How you going to protect your benefactor now???

    Believe me we are ready to screenshot and report you

  • SnowwhiteMILY
    SnowwhiteMILY
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 304

    every infamy lover r a 69 lover

  • FBHO
    FBHO
    Master Tactician
    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 2,081
    Axel L said:
    You spoke repeatedly about "69ing" but throughout your rhetoric it sounded as if you were actually addressing what is referred to as "the ring of fire". To 69 is to attack a friend's base while they attack your base netting the end result of you both in bubbles. Is that now an exploit or just the ring of fire? Your terminology is confusing.
    It could then be because this term has got multiple different definitions. I do prefer the term "Ring of Fire" mainly due to the fact that it's a bit more self explaining.

    For those who aren't experienced with some of the W terms created by the community. The "Ring of Fire" is derived from platoons attacking around a base like a ring and fire is a different word for platoon fighting. On the other hand, I have no clue about the origin of the term called "69ing".
    I call it the "p_ssy circle" because that's what the people using it are...
  • syedur9
    syedur9
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 266
    is it only for pvp or for all base ?
    like if i try a event base for few times or shadow ops base few time is my toon going home too?
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  • SnowwhiteMILY
    SnowwhiteMILY
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    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 304

    @SnowwhiteMILY said:
    every infamy lover r a 69 lover make sure pls dont affect normal atacking sytem, dont see sollution yet

  • Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
    Speed-o-Sound_Sonic
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Apr 2017 Posts: 361
    FBHO said:
    Axel L said:
    You spoke repeatedly about "69ing" but throughout your rhetoric it sounded as if you were actually addressing what is referred to as "the ring of fire". To 69 is to attack a friend's base while they attack your base netting the end result of you both in bubbles. Is that now an exploit or just the ring of fire? Your terminology is confusing.
    It could then be because this term has got multiple different definitions. I do prefer the term "Ring of Fire" mainly due to the fact that it's a bit more self explaining.

    For those who aren't experienced with some of the W terms created by the community. The "Ring of Fire" is derived from platoons attacking around a base like a ring and fire is a different word for platoon fighting. On the other hand, I have no clue about the origin of the term called "69ing".
    I call it the "p_ssy circle" because that's what the people using it are...
    i call it 69
    everyone wants GIF
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