Except for a small select few pilots who refuse to let the alien win and are still fighting to the last ship. These special bunch call themselves team unknown and the aliens have grown to fear them:)
Except for a small select few pilots who refuse to let the alien win and are still fighting to the last ship. These special bunch call themselves team unknown and the aliens have grown to fear them:)
Then you woke up without legs, just like Oliver. XD Jk.
please bring dead space atmosphere to Vega Conflict, that will be awesome to have all kind of hybrid weapons and tech for killing off the Morphing Zombie from Vega Experiments that gone wrong as it wreak havoc in our sector grounds.... RUN FOR YOUR LIVESSSS, NECROMOPRH EVERYWAY, THEY ARE EVEEERRRYYYWHEERRREEE.
please bring dead space atmosphere to Vega Conflict, that will be awesome to have all kind of hybrid weapons and tech for killing off the Morphing Zombie from Vega Experiments that gone wrong as it wreak havoc in our sector grounds.... RUN FOR YOUR LIVESSSS, NECROMOPRH EVERYWAY, THEY ARE EVEEERRRYYYWHEERRREEE.
Don't worry, that's gonna be for the new T7. We already had aliens, now we're gonna have zombies for sure... This was a nice strategy space game. Now it looks like a 60's Sci-fi game.
please bring dead space atmosphere to Vega Conflict, that will be awesome to have all kind of hybrid weapons and tech for killing off the Morphing Zombie from Vega Experiments that gone wrong as it wreak havoc in our sector grounds.... RUN FOR YOUR LIVESSSS, NECROMOPRH EVERYWAY, THEY ARE EVEEERRRYYYWHEERRREEE.
Don't worry, that's gonna be for the new T7. We already had aliens, now we're gonna have zombies for sure... This was a nice strategy space game. Now it looks like a 60's Sci-fi game.
time for me to get my plasma cutter gun ready, lets rock and grind.
@IdahoWizard said:
Well, it's official, the aliens have overrun the void and no one can stop them. It's dead space out there, space pilots.
There's not even high level players out killing event fleets, cuz no one is out there...
Can we have a moment of silence gentlemen.. We fought bravely, but nothing can stop the alien threat now.......
Hold on let me call some friends.
Later
Yeah artanis i'm going to need your help and bring the terrans as well
Even later
Hey Mike how would you like to enlist in the vega federation.....Yes I know you just got out of cryo sleep but it's a great opportunity..... No I do not work for the rebels I am a vsec officer..... Well vsec is the security brand of vega.... ok the demon Corp are the miltary branch of vega and vsec is below that that clear any confusion?
I don't even know why I know these people I am an introvert I mean later
Hello is this Darth Vader I know who has been supporting the rebellion all this time it's a unknown species in vega territory.
OK last one
Um yes rubi I know it's been a long time... wait Noone is on that means rubi has disappeared ,looks over at sybil.... hey sybil can access a base on earth and launch the nuclear warheads stored... well rubi, the ai running the base, just up and disappeared... well i haven't seen here in like idunno how many years.... anyway I need you to launch the missles..... what do you mean the base is familiar it's my base.
so @CMDOOMROOSTER what made you guys think that lowering point values and increasing damage done by the reaper fleets was a good idea?
riot/legacy - easiest for everyone
feature - normal for everyone
mobilization - hard for mid-high-top players
decimation - insane for high-top players only
thats how they make gradation for event difficulty levels, same fleets but more damage and less points for higher level event
Sadly that doesn't explain this fiasco.
Decimation had higher points per fleet until the last decimation event. Riots and legacy don't have aliens and cannot be used as a points comparison. Plus, only one feature event, the last one has had aliens/reapers.
Not sure if you are trying to defend the reduction in points and an increase in difficulty.... If yes....then you really should stop defending or trying to rationalize the reduction of points..... even if they are different events... it doesn't justify lower points with higher difficulty.
Higher difficulty.... sure, but the reduction in points is unnecessary and a new theme since every decimation (the hardest event for all) had its points reduced drastically.
For your records:
Previous to last decimation points payout for solo hives:
40: 8,151
45: 11,340
50: 22,680
55: 34,020
60: 56,700
65: 79,380
70: 113,400
Last decimation points payout for solo hives:
40: 500
45: 850
50: 1,500
55: 2,500
(Along with more difficult event fleets)
The old hives aren't Tier 6 content. They were kept simply as a courtesy to people who do not have Xeno hulls. But they cant give them higher point payout or they would trivialise the more difficult content and the people farming them would be the high level people as it can be done for free. Kixeyes business model do not include giving us the high level content (mobilisation and decimation) for free. Thus when implementing the more powerful T6 content, they have to increase event difficulty at the same pace to keep us paying. Also popularly known as power creep.
Its a F2P/P2W game, there is nothing that's really free in this business model. If we want to keep up we always pay more than we would in a buy to play game or a subscription based game where everyone pays the same and got access to all the content and you at most pay for new expansions every year. That's the point with this business model its more lucrative on a smaller player base and you can adjust the aggressiveness of the gating of the game to improve the flow of "micro transactions". Vega is one of the most aggressive examples.
Thus your points complaint aren't logical in the reality we are all playing right now. What we see with the points may seem outrageous to us, but from the standpoint of the state of the game we are all willingly playing, asking the points payout to change is the really outrageous suggestion.
Oh but people are killing the barrage hives. All the way up to lvl 90. The difference is that extremely few has the tech/upgraded ships required to do them with reasonably low repair cost. Extremely few would coin 100 to 250 coin repairs. Heck I know of few who would coin 50+ coin repairs in events. So what you see if people killing a barrage hive, then just letting their fleets repair for 4 to 7 hours. Or whatever time it takes for them to get the coin cost to a reasonable level.
And when waiting for repairs, its good odds that something else will catch said players attention. Another game, something in RL, so they may not be back to coin the repair until it has run its course.
So why do said players care about stuff that do that kind of damage? They wouldn't if it wasn't for the decimator boxes. And thats exactly the point of said boxes.
@Spask Crondusk said:
please bring dead space atmosphere to Vega Conflict, that will be awesome to have all kind of hybrid weapons and tech for killing off the Morphing Zombie from Vega Experiments that gone wrong as it wreak havoc in our sector grounds.... RUN FOR YOUR LIVESSSS, NECROMOPRH EVERYWAY, THEY ARE EVEEERRRYYYWHEERRREEE.
I swear i could have killed one of those in my assassination attempt.
Admiral and Head Intelligence Officer of the Frontier Liberation Army.
Agree with what's being said here. Even the reapers have been buffed to the point where repairs on 68s are about as much as 80s were when they first appeared. Reapers are overpowered, a blatant coin grab because you take damage no matter what... The new barrage hives even more so.
It used to be that events were for end-gamers and there was one event a month. Now they are almost weekly and they are strictly for high coiners.
The non-stop power JUMP (far more than "power creep") every event, the overpowered event fleets that basically REQUIRE coining, the other big changes that happen without warning that make even more existing tech obsolete, this is enough to make any player extremely cynical about vega.
The relentless coin grab is pretty disgusting, frankly. Rather than make the game popular, its just milking ever more money out of a dwindling player base.
Hi, from where i can take Decimator Cutter Mk 2 pattern? because i see just core t6, parts and armaments!!!! WTF. This boxes are not full.
Its like supply run boxes, patterns are rare drops. But with a small difference. They have a chance to contain either a pattern or just antimatter. But you always get cores parts and armaments. I have gotten three MK 2 patterns so far. To my experience its not the patterns thats the problem. Its getting enough parts to use them as each box contains between 2 to 3 parts and you need 10 for a MK 2 decimator credit.
An entire 24 hours later someone posts something on a dead thread, cuz barely anyone cares to play this event anymore and unfortunately it contains ridiculous notions that were posted by you....
Your entire post is "outrageous"...
@Aletheides said:
The old hives aren't Tier 6 content. They were kept simply as a courtesy to people who do not have Xeno hulls
1) the old hives were kept as a courtesy?
Lol so ppl without xeno ships cannot take down reapers? Um... they can.... but if they removed them they would eliminate over half the players who can play the event with some lvl of success as not everyone is gonna have the best fitted ship for reapers and.... the outrageous barage hives are wayyyyy to OP to be forced upon ALL players.
So, Kix needs the average player to actually get some tech, in order to fit the tech to the ships, coin maybe and play the game.... ya know....
@Aletheides said:
Thus when implementing the more powerful T6 content, they have to increase event difficulty at the same pace to keep us paying. Also popularly known as power creep.
2) You don't even know what power creep is! Lol
Allow me to explain...
Its the mere "introduction" of wayy more powerful tech that widens the gap between the last tier and in effect, increase the gap between the top end and bottom end player (look it up).
Event difficulty or spending money are not "power creep". Its the "tech" alone, that is brought into the game that is wayy too overpowered, leading to "power creep".
For example: last year kix added a lot of much needed tech to cargo fleet blueprint drops in an effort to reduce the power creep (allow more access to the tech to any player, without needing to wait for events).
3) Your entire post revolves around justifying what you call power creep (increased difficulty, low points) You straight up embrace it? Basically you enjoy power creep? And are justifying the low points + increased difficulty? And the power creep itself?
@Aletheides said:
Thus your points complaint aren't logical in the reality we are all playing right now. What we see with the points may seem outrageous to us, but from the standpoint of the state of the game we are all willingly playing, asking the points payout to change is the really outrageous suggestion.
4) You contradict your statements....the points seem outrageous but to suggest higher points is also outrageous?
Anyways...
So.... the 99%+ of players and my complaints aren't logical and are outrageous, but your suggestion or justification as it relates to feed the power creep is? You are pretty much the only one who is defending the low points, increased damage and power creep lol
I have heard from mega coiners taking about the difficulty of the events with marked up decimator for the new hives and the low points for the old hives and reapers and they too were also upset, about both... but you.... seem to be only one totally fine with it....and encourage it more! Lol do you get paid a % of coins spent every event? Sounds like it! :-)
5) after reading your post again, it does appear at the heart of it, that you must be paying to win and enjoy the power creep. Coin much this event? :-)
You don't need to try to explain the business model that dictates this..... Its obvious.... money.... but this is only gonna work as a short term strategy, as power creep always kills off the player base in the long run.... and it still doesn't justify the points reduction and increased difficulty.
Lastly, by simply not knowing what power creep is.... your entire post is irrelevant and shows that all you care about doing is to defend/justify and limit the tech that players can get with minimal coining and maximum grinding.... a clear indicator of a mega coiner who needs that to stay ahead on top of the power creep and feel good about spending massive amounts of money on pixel, and support any event design that tries to hurt casual coiner or free player, so that there is a chance that they don't give ya any challenges :-)
Kix gotta make money, and there are better ways to make money via Vega than this whole points+difficulty fiasco....
so @CMDOOMROOSTER what made you guys think that lowering point values and increasing damage done by the reaper fleets was a good idea?
riot/legacy - easiest for everyone
feature - normal for everyone
mobilization - hard for mid-high-top players
decimation - insane for high-top players only
thats how they make gradation for event difficulty levels, same fleets but more damage and less points for higher level event
Sadly that doesn't explain this fiasco.
Decimation had higher points per fleet until the last decimation event. Riots and legacy don't have aliens and cannot be used as a points comparison. Plus, only one feature event, the last one has had aliens/reapers.
Not sure if you are trying to defend the reduction in points and an increase in difficulty.... If yes....then you really should stop defending or trying to rationalize the reduction of points..... even if they are different events... it doesn't justify lower points with higher difficulty.
Higher difficulty.... sure, but the reduction in points is unnecessary and a new theme since every decimation (the hardest event for all) had its points reduced drastically.
For your records:
Previous to last decimation points payout for solo hives:
40: 8,151
45: 11,340
50: 22,680
55: 34,020
60: 56,700
65: 79,380
70: 113,400
Last decimation points payout for solo hives:
40: 500
45: 850
50: 1,500
55: 2,500
(Along with more difficult event fleets)
The old hives aren't Tier 6 content. They were kept simply as a courtesy to people who do not have Xeno hulls. But they cant give them higher point payout or they would trivialise the more difficult content and the people farming them would be the high level people as it can be done for free. Kixeyes business model do not include giving us the high level content (mobilisation and decimation) for free. Thus when implementing the more powerful T6 content, they have to increase event difficulty at the same pace to keep us paying. Also popularly known as power creep.
Its a F2P/P2W game, there is nothing that's really free in this business model. If we want to keep up we always pay more than we would in a buy to play game or a subscription based game where everyone pays the same and got access to all the content and you at most pay for new expansions every year. That's the point with this business model its more lucrative on a smaller player base and you can adjust the aggressiveness of the gating of the game to improve the flow of "micro transactions". Vega is one of the most aggressive examples.
Thus your points complaint aren't logical in the reality we are all playing right now. What we see with the points may seem outrageous to us, but from the standpoint of the state of the game we are all willingly playing, asking the points payout to change is the really outrageous suggestion.
^only the last two* feature events with T6 had aliens/reapers.
Sorry, not on mobile
Well, it's official, the aliens have overrun the void and no one can stop them. It's dead space out there, space pilots.
There's not even high level players out killing event fleets, cuz no one is out there...
Can we have a moment of silence gentlemen.. We fought bravely, but nothing can stop the alien threat now.......
Except for a small select few pilots who refuse to let the alien win and are still fighting to the last ship. These special bunch call themselves team unknown and the aliens have grown to fear them:)
I open gold boxes but not silver. I still find uses for ISC hulls.
Btw - 30 gold, 1 Vig
fan art from someone else.
And on that day every rebel **** wept.
Politics can kill aliens...
Hold on let me call some friends.
Later
Yeah artanis i'm going to need your help and bring the terrans as well
Even later
Hey Mike how would you like to enlist in the vega federation.....Yes I know you just got out of cryo sleep but it's a great opportunity..... No I do not work for the rebels I am a vsec officer..... Well vsec is the security brand of vega.... ok the demon Corp are the miltary branch of vega and vsec is below that that clear any confusion?
I don't even know why I know these people I am an introvert I mean later
Hello is this Darth Vader I know who has been supporting the rebellion all this time it's a unknown species in vega territory.
OK last one
Um yes rubi I know it's been a long time... wait Noone is on that means rubi has disappeared ,looks over at sybil.... hey sybil can access a base on earth and launch the nuclear warheads stored... well rubi, the ai running the base, just up and disappeared... well i haven't seen here in like idunno how many years.... anyway I need you to launch the missles..... what do you mean the base is familiar it's my base.
0 ships, from 60 boxes....
But gazzilion infernal gatlings... i wonder if they will work on allien battleships
60 boxes and 5 ships
Its a F2P/P2W game, there is nothing that's really free in this business model. If we want to keep up we always pay more than we would in a buy to play game or a subscription based game where everyone pays the same and got access to all the content and you at most pay for new expansions every year. That's the point with this business model its more lucrative on a smaller player base and you can adjust the aggressiveness of the gating of the game to improve the flow of "micro transactions". Vega is one of the most aggressive examples.
Thus your points complaint aren't logical in the reality we are all playing right now. What we see with the points may seem outrageous to us, but from the standpoint of the state of the game we are all willingly playing, asking the points payout to change is the really outrageous suggestion.
And when waiting for repairs, its good odds that something else will catch said players attention. Another game, something in RL, so they may not be back to coin the repair until it has run its course.
So why do said players care about stuff that do that kind of damage? They wouldn't if it wasn't for the decimator boxes. And thats exactly the point of said boxes.
Too many events. Was much better when was once a month. Now if you miss an event what does it matter? Another event will start right after it.
I swear i could have killed one of those in my assassination attempt.
VEGA Conflict Wiki: vegaconflict.gamepedia.com
NPC Target Infographics Database: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_EKMu0UVmG0219GrfHUkqZz-aDovGv9r
Practically all the information you need for the game.
Agree with what's being said here. Even the reapers have been buffed to the point where repairs on 68s are about as much as 80s were when they first appeared. Reapers are overpowered, a blatant coin grab because you take damage no matter what... The new barrage hives even more so.
It used to be that events were for end-gamers and there was one event a month. Now they are almost weekly and they are strictly for high coiners.
The non-stop power JUMP (far more than "power creep") every event, the overpowered event fleets that basically REQUIRE coining, the other big changes that happen without warning that make even more existing tech obsolete, this is enough to make any player extremely cynical about vega.
The relentless coin grab is pretty disgusting, frankly. Rather than make the game popular, its just milking ever more money out of a dwindling player base.
An entire 24 hours later someone posts something on a dead thread, cuz barely anyone cares to play this event anymore and unfortunately it contains ridiculous notions that were posted by you....
Your entire post is "outrageous"...
1) the old hives were kept as a courtesy?
Lol so ppl without xeno ships cannot take down reapers? Um... they can.... but if they removed them they would eliminate over half the players who can play the event with some lvl of success as not everyone is gonna have the best fitted ship for reapers and.... the outrageous barage hives are wayyyyy to OP to be forced upon ALL players.
So, Kix needs the average player to actually get some tech, in order to fit the tech to the ships, coin maybe and play the game.... ya know....
2) You don't even know what power creep is! Lol
Allow me to explain...
Its the mere "introduction" of wayy more powerful tech that widens the gap between the last tier and in effect, increase the gap between the top end and bottom end player (look it up).
Event difficulty or spending money are not "power creep". Its the "tech" alone, that is brought into the game that is wayy too overpowered, leading to "power creep".
For example: last year kix added a lot of much needed tech to cargo fleet blueprint drops in an effort to reduce the power creep (allow more access to the tech to any player, without needing to wait for events).
3) Your entire post revolves around justifying what you call power creep (increased difficulty, low points) You straight up embrace it? Basically you enjoy power creep? And are justifying the low points + increased difficulty? And the power creep itself?
4) You contradict your statements....the points seem outrageous but to suggest higher points is also outrageous?
Anyways...
So.... the 99%+ of players and my complaints aren't logical and are outrageous, but your suggestion or justification as it relates to feed the power creep is? You are pretty much the only one who is defending the low points, increased damage and power creep lol
I have heard from mega coiners taking about the difficulty of the events with marked up decimator for the new hives and the low points for the old hives and reapers and they too were also upset, about both... but you.... seem to be only one totally fine with it....and encourage it more! Lol do you get paid a % of coins spent every event? Sounds like it! :-)
5) after reading your post again, it does appear at the heart of it, that you must be paying to win and enjoy the power creep. Coin much this event? :-)
You don't need to try to explain the business model that dictates this..... Its obvious.... money.... but this is only gonna work as a short term strategy, as power creep always kills off the player base in the long run.... and it still doesn't justify the points reduction and increased difficulty.
Lastly, by simply not knowing what power creep is.... your entire post is irrelevant and shows that all you care about doing is to defend/justify and limit the tech that players can get with minimal coining and maximum grinding.... a clear indicator of a mega coiner who needs that to stay ahead on top of the power creep and feel good about spending massive amounts of money on pixel, and support any event design that tries to hurt casual coiner or free player, so that there is a chance that they don't give ya any challenges :-)
Kix gotta make money, and there are better ways to make money via Vega than this whole points+difficulty fiasco....
Wow you're actually trying to justify this...