[LORE CONTEST] Secret Documents: Part IV

  • Richard Augustine
    Richard Augustine
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    For the love of Mara dont make it more inceptive lol

  • Michael774692
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    edited 12 Jul 2016, 1:56AM
    wonder, when is the handsome of LXC gonna give us the reward, im so hyped for the freyja mk 5 with bombers 3 meta 3, and fusion 3 :D
  • Richard Augustine
    Richard Augustine
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    Excited to have it before crossfire starts :)

  • Craig Blanton
    Craig Blanton
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    CM LXC said:
    Just did a bit of googling, seems that, despite the numerous security vulnerabilities found in it, preimage resistance (which is what we're interested in here) has not been broken for MD5. However, I reckon that if you tried bruteforcing it with all possible combinations of 1-3 of the first, let's say, 100,000 most-used English words, you'd end up with the password faster than everyone else trying to solve the puzzle. Wikipedia helpfully notes that an old Nvidia GeForce 8800 can calculate 200 million MD5 hashes in a second, so I figure that my AMD radeon HD 7970 could do at least 20 billion h/s, which works out to a little less than 14 hours, worst-case scenario. If the password was 4 words long, on the other hand, that would take just under 159 years.

    So, really, considering the amount of hardware, expertise, and work required to pull something like this off, if someone does actually end up bruteforcing the password to one of the future contests, I'd just go ahead and give em the prize anyway.
    So what you're saying is: More words in the final code. :smiley:
     I think you're underestimating how hard it is to write code to run on a GPU. Only about 1 in every 3 AMD drivers work properly as it is, try making em do something they weren't meant to do.

    But, hell, if it makes you feel any less paranoid, I say go for it. Throw some french in there too, or maybe some in-game words like "Vsec" that don't show up in the dictionary. As of right now, brute forcing it is just incredibly unlikely, doing any of those would make it impossible (assuming none of us have access to the dozens of acres of supercomputer racks hidden under NSA HQ, that is).
    You never cease to amaze and disgust in the same breathe, Craig.
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  • the mastadon
    the mastadon
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    CM LXC said:
    Just did a bit of googling, seems that, despite the numerous security vulnerabilities found in it, preimage resistance (which is what we're interested in here) has not been broken for MD5. However, I reckon that if you tried bruteforcing it with all possible combinations of 1-3 of the first, let's say, 100,000 most-used English words, you'd end up with the password faster than everyone else trying to solve the puzzle. Wikipedia helpfully notes that an old Nvidia GeForce 8800 can calculate 200 million MD5 hashes in a second, so I figure that my AMD radeon HD 7970 could do at least 20 billion h/s, which works out to a little less than 14 hours, worst-case scenario. If the password was 4 words long, on the other hand, that would take just under 159 years.

    So, really, considering the amount of hardware, expertise, and work required to pull something like this off, if someone does actually end up bruteforcing the password to one of the future contests, I'd just go ahead and give em the prize anyway.
    So what you're saying is: More words in the final code. :smiley:
     I think you're underestimating how hard it is to write code to run on a GPU. Only about 1 in every 3 AMD drivers work properly as it is, try making em do something they weren't meant to do.

    But, hell, if it makes you feel any less paranoid, I say go for it. Throw some french in there too, or maybe some in-game words like "Vsec" that don't show up in the dictionary. As of right now, brute forcing it is just incredibly unlikely, doing any of those would make it impossible (assuming none of us have access to the dozens of acres of supercomputer racks hidden under NSA HQ, that is).
    A straight brute force, of 1 character case, on this machine, for 16 characters ONLY would run me for over a year on this machine. You also need to assume the other 1-15 set for that character set, and the 1-16 set of the other character case.

    So basically.... You either assume I have something I really don't have... or the fact that I'm so **** lazy that I'd wait a year even with that foreknowledge to crack a passcode. No I'd rather use a better method or attack the integrity correctly.
    @CM LXC
     
  • Swoboderz
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    CM LXC said:
    Just did a bit of googling, seems that, despite the numerous security vulnerabilities found in it, preimage resistance (which is what we're interested in here) has not been broken for MD5. However, I reckon that if you tried bruteforcing it with all possible combinations of 1-3 of the first, let's say, 100,000 most-used English words, you'd end up with the password faster than everyone else trying to solve the puzzle. Wikipedia helpfully notes that an old Nvidia GeForce 8800 can calculate 200 million MD5 hashes in a second, so I figure that my AMD radeon HD 7970 could do at least 20 billion h/s, which works out to a little less than 14 hours, worst-case scenario. If the password was 4 words long, on the other hand, that would take just under 159 years.

    So, really, considering the amount of hardware, expertise, and work required to pull something like this off, if someone does actually end up bruteforcing the password to one of the future contests, I'd just go ahead and give em the prize anyway.
    So what you're saying is: More words in the final code. :smiley:
    or have a combination of words from  different languages. that way the alphabet and words aren't limited to standard english and can become near impossible to brute force
  • AlexVern
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    Well LXC just delivered my coins, how about you guys?
  • Richard Augustine
    Richard Augustine
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    @AlexVern said:
    Well LXC just delivered my coins, how about you guys?

    Nothing yet but patiently waiting :)

  • sleuthyRogue
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    @AlexVern said:
    Well LXC just delivered my coins, how about you guys?

    Nothing yet but patiently waiting :)

    Have you checked your email? He was contacting the participants through email since the PM system seems to have borked.
  • Richard Augustine
    Richard Augustine
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    Been checking my email like a mad man, do I have to post my email?

  • sleuthyRogue
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    Been checking my email like a mad man, do I have to post my email?

    Have you checked your spam folder? Are you absolutely certain the email you're checking is the one associated with this account?
  • Richard Augustine
    Richard Augustine
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    Im 95% sure but I'll double check everything

  • Swoboderz
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    Been checking my email like a mad man, do I have to post my email?

    Have you checked your spam folder? Are you absolutely certain the email you're checking is the one associated with this account?
    i just imagine that LXC has trouble being able to fetch our emails. or forgot, which i myself forgets quite a bit and almost forgot I'm one of the champions of this lore lol
  • Swoboderz
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    also the reason no one can start a chat with LXC is because his box is full. KIX support told me on twitter when i reported the "couldn't start chat" thing as a bug

  • sleuthyRogue
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    Swoboderz said:

    Been checking my email like a mad man, do I have to post my email?

    Have you checked your spam folder? Are you absolutely certain the email you're checking is the one associated with this account?
    i just imagine that LXC has trouble being able to fetch our emails. or forgot, which i myself forgets quite a bit and almost forgot I'm one of the champions of this lore lol
    Nope. All that information is readily accessible for him, being a previous Senior QA. BUT, he would only have the emails associated with your VEGA account, so that's why I'm saying you should double check that that IS the one you're checking.
  • Richard Augustine
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    I have Support tickets in my email so I think this is the right one I hope :/

  • Swoboderz
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    Swoboderz said:

    Been checking my email like a mad man, do I have to post my email?

    Have you checked your spam folder? Are you absolutely certain the email you're checking is the one associated with this account?
    i just imagine that LXC has trouble being able to fetch our emails. or forgot, which i myself forgets quite a bit and almost forgot I'm one of the champions of this lore lol
    Nope. All that information is readily accessible for him, being a previous Senior QA. BUT, he would only have the emails associated with your VEGA account, so that's why I'm saying you should double check that that IS the one you're checking.
    i only use my one email. and LXC. I KNOW YOU CAN SEE THIS. lul. rekt.
  • LXC
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    sleuthyRogue said:Have you checked your email? He was contacting the participants through email since the PM system seems to have borked.
    They are not making it easy by not having their email addresses attached to their site handles.
  • Swoboderz
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    CM LXC said:
    sleuthyRogue said:Have you checked your email? He was contacting the participants through email since the PM system seems to have borked.
    They are not making it easy by not having their email addresses attached to their site handles.
    ill just say it here i don't really care who messages me

  • sleuthyRogue
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    CM LXC said:
    sleuthyRogue said:Have you checked your email? He was contacting the participants through email since the PM system seems to have borked.
    They are not making it easy by not having their email addresses attached to their site handles.

  • Swoboderz
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  • Swoboderz
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    CM LXC said:
    sleuthyRogue said:Have you checked your email? He was contacting the participants through email since the PM system seems to have borked.
    They are not making it easy by not having their email addresses attached to their site handles.

    lol no idea how to fix that
    and do you have memes on hand always?
  • Richard Augustine
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  • swobot
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    i would like my prize on my main account :) this is Swoboderz btwe

  • Richard Augustine
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    @Swoboderz said: ill just say it here i don't really care who messages me

    Same lol

  • swobot
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    CM LXC said:
    Oprah Winfrey Meme - You get a spaceship you get a spaceship Everyone gets a spaceship
    Lex be like...


    Ok, that should be everyone. If it didn't come through, try refreshing.
    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
  • swobot
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    refreshing at 1000000000000 clicks per sec
  • swobot
    swobot
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    not showing....
  • AlexVern
    AlexVern
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    Now i would rather not say this, but my momma raised me to be honest.  You accidently gave me a vigilante and a freja. Maybe i got swoboderz's freja?

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