Revenge discussion 5/3/16 (Merged Thread)

  • rijones1957
    rijones1957
    Greenhorn
    Joined Oct 2014 Posts: 6
    You were warned when it came out and multiple times aftewards that the change was being made so the boat would be in accordance wiht its design.. as a PVP player baser..  Don't come crying now that the hull is working as intended and you can't PvE with it..
    the only reason they nerfed it was it worked to well against kixeye not because of what it was intended for get it right. Kixeye is not following fair game play and i am looking into filling a class action law suit

  • James Leon
    James Leon
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 1,839
    I hit two base , both over 85 and my three revenge, two zoey rhino fleet went through them easily,  seven second repair from one base and zero damage to revenge hulls in the other.   I think the changes made a great  difference and will help a lot in bases. And who knows, maybe putting armor on them will help more.
    ahava veshalom
  • kixeyeuser_1414590451090_100004424983600
    kixeyeuser_1414590451090_100004424983600
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Nov 2014 Posts: 540
    Can we get a special that REDUCES combat speed so we can use the Revenge with a good engine system/heavy plating combo  in a fleet with just about any other hull and not have it go twice as fast? I see many complaints but I don't think Kixeye is done with this hulls stats just yet; mine doesn't seem to be entirely useless yet.
  • ElPoderoso
    ElPoderoso
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2013 Posts: 368
    Well, who knows anymore? My base used to get squashed easily now I kill everything without the need of a bandaid. The Revenge was spectacular i the last raid and now?
    I have put one with launchers in my base guard. I hope it will do well.
  • Slick_Shadow
    Slick_Shadow
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2014 Posts: 14
    YSP_DED said:
    OMG Kixeye announced like a month ago thatt the 3rd of MAY we add deflection bypass to ALL PVE targets!!! CANT PPL READ ANYMORE???????

    Does adding to PvE mean changing the stat of the revenge?
  • Anthony Mcconnell
    Anthony Mcconnell
    Potential Threat
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 92
    WHAT A JOKE I WAS JUST HIT BY FIVE REVENGE HULLS ALL FULLY SKULLED  SHE DID NOT NEED FIVE  ONE DONE THE JOB ALL BY ITSELF . MY BASE GUARD WERE FIVE RHINOS EQUIPPED WITH FIVE D53Z , 8 TORRENT 2 . 1 PHALNX  AND 1 JAILSTROM 3 . AND HER ONE REVENGE JUST WALKED IN WITHOUT TAKING ONE POINT OF DAMAGE  WELL CCRAPEYE  YOU HAVE OUTDONE YOURSELF YOU HAVE REALLY SCREWED THE GAME UP SO THAT  PEOPLE CANT PLAY IT ANYMORE ....... ONE BLOODY SHIP WALKS THROUGH ABASE AND NOT ONE DAMAGE POINT DONE TO THE HULL ,,,,,, I CALL THAT BOLLOCKS , I CALL THAT TOTAL CRAP   AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED YOU CAN STICK YOUR POXY GAME WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE .......... 
  • tee.fragall
    tee.fragall
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 357
    I'm positive the guy that had 4 of them just die in my channel is looking for a refund right about now :D
  • smilyface
    smilyface
    Greenhorn
    Joined Nov 2013 Posts: 13
    my revenge is now next to useless in a 60 base parts i now take a lot less damage on my punishes before the revenge only took 1min damage  
    OMG how many times do you need to be told that they were making them useless for PVE targets? 
  • kixeyeuser_1414590451090_100004424983600
    kixeyeuser_1414590451090_100004424983600
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Nov 2014 Posts: 540
    Kixeye for a final change of The Revenge I suggest you change the hull name to The Revenue. Although it did reek its revenge on us it now appears it did much more in the revenue department for you.
  • kixeyeuser_1415967218417_100008428995224
    kixeyeuser_1415967218417_100008428995224
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2015 Posts: 643
    I'm positive the guy that had 4 of them just die in my channel is looking for a refund right about now :D
    Aint that true. LOL. 
  • AnEyeForAnEye
    AnEyeForAnEye
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2014 Posts: 7,191
    YSP_DED said:
    OMG Kixeye announced like a month ago thatt the 3rd of MAY we add deflection bypass to ALL PVE targets!!! CANT PPL READ ANYMORE???????

    Does adding to PvE mean changing the stat of the revenge?
    No, but the changes to the hull are, at least on paper, an improvement and not a nerf. Stats changed have all been increase significantly for PVP(but yes it still has some weakness, so not a click in the back of the base baser).

    The removal of both Siege and assault defelction only penalize it in PVE target which it not meant for.
  • kixeyeuser_1414590451090_100004424983600
    kixeyeuser_1414590451090_100004424983600
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Nov 2014 Posts: 540
    Well I sniped a base from the outside with one Revenge. I was getting hit by executioners and javs and stuff the entire way around and did not take Any damage. Just wait until the GG gets nerfed. I know that is comin'.
  • Anthony Mcconnell
    Anthony Mcconnell
    Potential Threat
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 92
    I HAVE FIVE PYRO TURRETS RETROED TO R 8 I HAVE FIVE JAVELINS RETROED TO R11 I HAVE TWO METEOR MORTARS RETROED TO R 11 TWO ANTI MISSILE RETROED TO R 10 AND FOUR HALO TURRETS RETROED TO R 10  AND NOT A SINGLE DAMAGE POINT TAKEN TO HER ONE HULL 
  • Jnglwmn
    Jnglwmn
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 281
    Well they are beasts now but the best part is the REPAIR TIME.  There is gonna be a lot more base hitting happening I'm pretty sure, which is what the game has been lacking for the last month.


  • CM DOOMROOSTER
    CM DOOMROOSTER
    KIXEYE Community Manager
    Joined Jan 2014 Posts: 4,939

    This is what I'm running on mine: 

    Siege Battery, Siege Targeting, Hydraulic Resistors, Agility System IV, Strike Warheads for the specials. Streamlined Cadmium Armor for the armor although I may end up switching for Evade since shockwaves are still a thing.  Gatlings for weapons (duh).

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  • AnEyeForAnEye
    AnEyeForAnEye
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2014 Posts: 7,191
    Dang let go of the caps for god sakes.


    So far OP, all the tech listed on your guard or base wouldnt stop most of the newest hull in the game(even after changes). Most of it is outdated to defend your base or even to attack with.

    So it no surprise a revenge walked easily.
  • James Leon
    James Leon
    Force to be Reckoned With
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 1,839
    edited 3 May 2016, 9:05PM
    mine is siege battery, hydraulic resistors, gs3, heavy plating 3, concussive warhead 3 and gattling. then evade armor when ranked a little more.

    ahava veshalom
  • Slick_Shadow
    Slick_Shadow
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2014 Posts: 14
    If folks really tired of getting screwed by kixeye, the best way to show this displeasure is to not play the raid.  May 12th is next week and this will still be fresh in our minds.  As long as players complain and continue playing, kixeye will never change.  Do you think that they won't change the stats on any future ships that people build as monsters?  Think about that when coining to get the new raid hull and building it before raid is complete.
    They took away siege and assault deflection, which is a PvP stat, and are making players have to earn the corrosive concussive and radioactive deflections back.  The revenge has been weakened against bases, which is a problem.
  • kixeyeuser_1414590451090_100004424983600
    kixeyeuser_1414590451090_100004424983600
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Nov 2014 Posts: 540
    I see two commenters that I at least read their comments have commented here. Besides the screaming the OP does have a point. I don't know what base weapons can even scratch a Revenge with these latest changes and the range of Gatling guns. Today everyone is complaining Revenge is useless, tomorrow everyone will be crying it is way to powerful; way to powerful. lol I built one and don't think I even need another.
  • wormerod
    wormerod
    Greenhorn
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 5
    Revenge not what was promised please tell me how to get a refund under the Trades Description Act........
  • kixeyeuser_1375810824263_12234_28846940
    kixeyeuser_1375810824263_12234_28846940
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 4,914

    I could Walk his base. WITH MY HELLHOUNDS. also, JEEEEEEZUS LAY OFF THE CAPS.

    This is also a Grammar Nazi thing but....:

    "REVENGE HULLS FAR TOO OVER POWERFUL" is incorrect, "Overpowered" or "Too Powerful" is correct however.

  • kixeyeuser_1414590451090_100004424983600
    kixeyeuser_1414590451090_100004424983600
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Nov 2014 Posts: 540
    Wait for the "they are untouchable" whining to begin. Only one thing you got to watch out for however.
  • Jnglwmn
    Jnglwmn
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined Apr 2012 Posts: 281
    SS5, HP3, SB3, 2 Launcher specials and antripods, so far just 3 of them with an R5 HNC.
  • thor825
    thor825
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 43
    just put your enforcers back in your base guard with luanchers and listen to the coiners with the revenge hull cry when they die!
  • AnEyeForAnEye
    AnEyeForAnEye
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2014 Posts: 7,191
    I see two commenters that I at least read their comments have commented here. Besides the screaming the OP does have a point. I don't know what base weapons can even scratch a Revenge with these latest changes and the range of Gatling guns. Today everyone is complaining Revenge is useless, tomorrow everyone will be crying it is way to powerful; way to powerful. lol I built one and don't think I even need another.
    Im sure the revenge will walk many base beisde what many fear. But i ntop end base, with proper defenses, the hull will struggle and not walk throught.

    Yes they boosted some stats, but hull still got weaknesses, they didnt cover them all with the changes, so it can be killed.

    But it will require more update tech then the OP uses.
  • Benjar1981
    Benjar1981
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 1,193
    There are no ship weapons that I can think of that should physically be hurting the revenge above the minimum, except maybe scatterguns, and with the new deflection not even that.  As far as base turrets, a little damage from the scatterguns, and some damage from apocs and executioners if you have the right specials and offensive transformers on them.  Thats by the number anyhow.
  • sliceNdice
    sliceNdice
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Mar 2015 Posts: 5,428
    That's crazy... It's almost like I remember there being a million threads about a Revenge nerf.
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  • Benjar1981
    Benjar1981
    Incursion Leader
    Joined Aug 2013 Posts: 1,193
    That's crazy... It's almost like I remember there being a million threads about a Revenge nerf.
    They didnt read properly.  I was one of the first ones all over this when it was announced because they were going to make immunity to shockwaves as well.  Not sure what they were reading but I saw op and unstoppable all over that.  But, again, by the numbers.
  • CM Scarlett
    CM Scarlett
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Mar 2014 Posts: 3,026
    There are no ship weapons that I can think of that should physically be hurting the revenge above the minimum, except maybe scatterguns, and with the new deflection not even that.  As far as base turrets, a little damage from the scatterguns, and some damage from apocs and executioners if you have the right specials and offensive transformers on them.  Thats by the number anyhow.
    An Enforcer full of antipodes gets them pretty good.
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