Revenge discussion 5/3/16 (Merged Thread)

  • Stuart Petrie
    Stuart Petrie
    Potential Threat
    Joined Sep 2012 Posts: 45
    Revenge   is no better then punishur at hitting bases!!   its not   what they advertised!!    and good luck using any haul   for armadas -  parts bases- and yes   a 60 part base is doable   but most of us need 70s and 80s   for frags for cents   i have 18 fleets   all well built   all  good hauls  after hitting 2 75s its  8 hr repair    its called a kixeye rip off   game now sucks     ONE MORE TIME     REVENGE    SUCKS   AT HITTING BASES   UNLESS ITS HITTING 70 and under  bases   or bases that suck    and this haul for this or haul for that   is just a cash grabber it does nothing  for players other then  more repair time more coins   more rebuild     RIP OFF         
  • robert.sorrell.39
    robert.sorrell.39
    Potential Threat
    Joined Jul 2013 Posts: 56
    I am not saying people cant be inventive with the hull but expecting it to do more than says on the tin is sillly, if you can get some other uses out of it all good . Im just stating what its intended for.


    and i was only stating, "why should i have to read every forum to know how good the hull will be or how long it will last for"//  some in-game info would be nice kix...  they think because its in the forum then everyone knows about it....  i couldnt care less.. the hull cost me nothing..  im finding it usefull at times like most ships..  i feel sorry for the ones who spend hundreds of dollars on a game thats FREE....hahahahhahaha
    1) The blueprint for the hull specifecally states it is for hitting player bases. So now are you going to say your stance is that you do not even have to read the bp's you are winning?

    2) How can you be upset at what a company does if you are not even willing to educate yourself on what you are buying :) I never buy something without first researching it and doing some window shopping. 

    3) The game is free to play, you do not pay them to access any of the content :)

    And lastly this was taken last night and we were doing this all day after the update. You can skip to 11:30 if you want to skip all the prepping. This is bases off my Revenge build my alliance is using. It does pretty good in bases up to levl 6 stands, Glacial, bask, frostbit, enforcers, gamma, omega, rhinos, mastadon and proto mastadons so far taken with this fleet. As more gets built I will try bigger and better bases :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spOWtRR8hO4



    Yes that is right, a PvE target for 0 damage, can do 3 to 4 an hour :) You are welcome and no I do not share my builds with those on the forum.
    you seem like just as big a troll as the rest of them, yay, you can do the weekly for zero damage, whoopty freaking doo. nobody gives a **** about your build, it will come out eventually.

    i read the stats for the revenge, they are not the same now so your point is null. if kix were going to release something and then change it all the while knowing they were gonna change it, then it should not have been released til it was ready, plain and simple. you defending this just makes you look like a tool.
    I am not saying people cant be inventive with the hull but expecting it to do more than says on the tin is sillly, if you can get some other uses out of it all good . Im just stating what its intended for.


    and i was only stating, "why should i have to read every forum to know how good the hull will be or how long it will last for"//  some in-game info would be nice kix...  they think because its in the forum then everyone knows about it....  i couldnt care less.. the hull cost me nothing..  im finding it usefull at times like most ships..  i feel sorry for the ones who spend hundreds of dollars on a game thats FREE....hahahahhahaha
    1) The blueprint for the hull specifecally states it is for hitting player bases. So now are you going to say your stance is that you do not even have to read the bp's you are winning?

    2) How can you be upset at what a company does if you are not even willing to educate yourself on what you are buying :) I never buy something without first researching it and doing some window shopping. 

    3) The game is free to play, you do not pay them to access any of the content :)

    And lastly this was taken last night and we were doing this all day after the update. You can skip to 11:30 if you want to skip all the prepping. This is bases off my Revenge build my alliance is using. It does pretty good in bases up to levl 6 stands, Glacial, bask, frostbit, enforcers, gamma, omega, rhinos, mastadon and proto mastadons so far taken with this fleet. As more gets built I will try bigger and better bases :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spOWtRR8hO4



    Yes that is right, a PvE target for 0 damage, can do 3 to 4 an hour :) You are welcome and no I do not share my builds with those on the forum.
    you seem like just as big a troll as the rest of them, yay, you can do the weekly for zero damage, whoopty freaking doo. nobody gives a **** about your build, it will come out eventually.

    i read the stats for the revenge, they are not the same now so your point is null. if kix were going to release something and then change it all the while knowing they were gonna change it, then it should not have been released til it was ready, plain and simple. you defending this just makes you look like a tool.
    In his visual example, he is not using a revenger which is the topic and he is taking damage
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    I am not saying people cant be inventive with the hull but expecting it to do more than says on the tin is sillly, if you can get some other uses out of it all good . Im just stating what its intended for.


    and i was only stating, "why should i have to read every forum to know how good the hull will be or how long it will last for"//  some in-game info would be nice kix...  they think because its in the forum then everyone knows about it....  i couldnt care less.. the hull cost me nothing..  im finding it usefull at times like most ships..  i feel sorry for the ones who spend hundreds of dollars on a game thats FREE....hahahahhahaha
    1) The blueprint for the hull specifecally states it is for hitting player bases. So now are you going to say your stance is that you do not even have to read the bp's you are winning?

    2) How can you be upset at what a company does if you are not even willing to educate yourself on what you are buying :) I never buy something without first researching it and doing some window shopping. 

    3) The game is free to play, you do not pay them to access any of the content :)

    And lastly this was taken last night and we were doing this all day after the update. You can skip to 11:30 if you want to skip all the prepping. This is bases off my Revenge build my alliance is using. It does pretty good in bases up to levl 6 stands, Glacial, bask, frostbit, enforcers, gamma, omega, rhinos, mastadon and proto mastadons so far taken with this fleet. As more gets built I will try bigger and better bases :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spOWtRR8hO4



    Yes that is right, a PvE target for 0 damage, can do 3 to 4 an hour :) You are welcome and no I do not share my builds with those on the forum.
    you seem like just as big a troll as the rest of them, yay, you can do the weekly for zero damage, whoopty freaking doo. nobody gives a **** about your build, it will come out eventually.

    i read the stats for the revenge, they are not the same now so your point is null. if kix were going to release something and then change it all the while knowing they were gonna change it, then it should not have been released til it was ready, plain and simple. you defending this just makes you look like a tool.
    Ahh I see, so proving you all wrong that the changes hurt the Revenge in the FM is trolling?

    The hull was changed, it was made better in every single aspect of the game. 

    Nah me showing that you guys are wrong is just that, me being right and you guys are nothing but professional whiners that should be ignored.

    And no my build will not come out, because if those I have shared it with share it. They will be cut off from any future builds.
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    go tee said:

    @peter.altmann.1276 said:
    cesar augusto jovel said:

    If u read the description on it... the forums... the post

    s on the crib... forsaken council... bv.... and a few others as well as a few alliance pages... comms...

    U would have realized that the revenge was never intended to be so effective vs pve targets and it was meant to be solely used as a base hitter....

    (Pve targets are drac bases, armadas, fm, mines, dubs, tlc, salvs, urfs, monthly raid targets)

    They been saying this for the last 3 months.... if u kept up to date with the info plus read the promost they put on the game with the exclamation mark as well as above the game screen u would know about the changes.

    so not only do we have to keep up with the game itself, we also have to read every forum and watch every video on the subject too so that we know about every change thats upcoming??..  arnt the in-game "chores" enough?

    >
    >
    No just the stickied posts in the forum.

    One has to dig for the information. They have a way to give us information when they are making changes, but when they false advertise or bait and switch, we need to dig to get the information. I bet if they told us exactly what was going to happen on screen before the raid, the raid would not have gone as well for them. What if it was stated "this ship will not perform as well and not even half as good as it will do currently. Would people have coined it as much. I am really ticked off and will be scaling back my spending a lot. 
    The Blueprint states it is for hitting player bases :) 

    Are you saying that you do not have the responsibility to even read the blueprints you are looking to win?
  • George_C
    George_C
    Greenhorn
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 9
    xwolf1 said:

    Revenge was supposed to be useless in pve targets. This has been said since it was released

    lol...  If the Revenge is supposed to be useless in PVE ... would not the simplest  solution be to disable combat in PVE Targets... "Disengage, this isn't your fight"

    If the game is changing to where you need two types of fleets one for PVE and one for PVP stop the confusion and make it that way..

    ......  "Disengage this is not your fight"  .... 
  • XxCAMZxX
    XxCAMZxX
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jan 2012 Posts: 809
    i believe its not just the revenge but all the hulls..too much changes

  • hi all , kixeye made from my new good hull the "REVENGE" a bigger crap gunboat ! thx for that changing ! why kix dont go offline and play with a rubberduck alone .

    kixeye give us some hopeful possibility with that hull and after change it to bullshit . i cant say this more clear ...
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    edited 4 May 2016, 1:38PM
    I am not saying people cant be inventive with the hull but expecting it to do more than says on the tin is sillly, if you can get some other uses out of it all good . Im just stating what its intended for.


    and i was only stating, "why should i have to read every forum to know how good the hull will be or how long it will last for"//  some in-game info would be nice kix...  they think because its in the forum then everyone knows about it....  i couldnt care less.. the hull cost me nothing..  im finding it usefull at times like most ships..  i feel sorry for the ones who spend hundreds of dollars on a game thats FREE....hahahahhahaha
    1) The blueprint for the hull specifecally states it is for hitting player bases. So now are you going to say your stance is that you do not even have to read the bp's you are winning?

    2) How can you be upset at what a company does if you are not even willing to educate yourself on what you are buying :) I never buy something without first researching it and doing some window shopping. 

    3) The game is free to play, you do not pay them to access any of the content :)

    And lastly this was taken last night and we were doing this all day after the update. You can skip to 11:30 if you want to skip all the prepping. This is bases off my Revenge build my alliance is using. It does pretty good in bases up to levl 6 stands, Glacial, bask, frostbit, enforcers, gamma, omega, rhinos, mastadon and proto mastadons so far taken with this fleet. As more gets built I will try bigger and better bases :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spOWtRR8hO4



    Yes that is right, a PvE target for 0 damage, can do 3 to 4 an hour :) You are welcome and no I do not share my builds with those on the forum.
    you seem like just as big a troll as the rest of them, yay, you can do the weekly for zero damage, whoopty freaking doo. nobody gives a **** about your build, it will come out eventually.

    i read the stats for the revenge, they are not the same now so your point is null. if kix were going to release something and then change it all the while knowing they were gonna change it, then it should not have been released til it was ready, plain and simple. you defending this just makes you look like a tool.
    I am not saying people cant be inventive with the hull but expecting it to do more than says on the tin is sillly, if you can get some other uses out of it all good . Im just stating what its intended for.


    and i was only stating, "why should i have to read every forum to know how good the hull will be or how long it will last for"//  some in-game info would be nice kix...  they think because its in the forum then everyone knows about it....  i couldnt care less.. the hull cost me nothing..  im finding it usefull at times like most ships..  i feel sorry for the ones who spend hundreds of dollars on a game thats FREE....hahahahhahaha
    1) The blueprint for the hull specifecally states it is for hitting player bases. So now are you going to say your stance is that you do not even have to read the bp's you are winning?

    2) How can you be upset at what a company does if you are not even willing to educate yourself on what you are buying :) I never buy something without first researching it and doing some window shopping. 

    3) The game is free to play, you do not pay them to access any of the content :)

    And lastly this was taken last night and we were doing this all day after the update. You can skip to 11:30 if you want to skip all the prepping. This is bases off my Revenge build my alliance is using. It does pretty good in bases up to levl 6 stands, Glacial, bask, frostbit, enforcers, gamma, omega, rhinos, mastadon and proto mastadons so far taken with this fleet. As more gets built I will try bigger and better bases :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spOWtRR8hO4



    Yes that is right, a PvE target for 0 damage, can do 3 to 4 an hour :) You are welcome and no I do not share my builds with those on the forum.
    you seem like just as big a troll as the rest of them, yay, you can do the weekly for zero damage, whoopty freaking doo. nobody gives a **** about your build, it will come out eventually.

    i read the stats for the revenge, they are not the same now so your point is null. if kix were going to release something and then change it all the while knowing they were gonna change it, then it should not have been released til it was ready, plain and simple. you defending this just makes you look like a tool.
    In his visual example, he is not using a revenger which is the topic and he is taking damage
    Actually the Revenge takes the base :) and you can see clearly the health bar is still full :) Or are you one of those people that feel prepping is beneath you? If you are not willing to prep out targets to lower your repair time, is it any wonder why you are so frustrated at the costs of this game?

    And let us not forget that people are claiming (wrongly I might add) that they are dieing before clearing 2 platforms lol.

    Nice try though, really it was. If we were looking to admit our failure to properly build a fleet anyway. Which you have done repeatedly now.


  • Financeranger
    Financeranger
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined May 2011 Posts: 462
    edited 4 May 2016, 1:40PM
    SixOfNine said:
    wow...my revenge can only do 2 70s now......mines kick their arse. what a joke. More refits a coming? Maybe....I do like the lower repair time!
    not meant to be used there.  they are for hitting player bases
    good cover....limit the hull so we have to coin more ships...that adds real value! bwahh!

    On a good note I did baseline the hull and used the same fleet to level 5 bases prior to the change.....lets see if the kix tune up makes a difference.
    Level 102, Collected all the hulls kix wants me to coin! Sectors travels...who cares play the game and don't whine when you get hit!
  • hi all , 
    kixeye made from my new good hull the "REVENGE" a bigger crap gunboat ! thx for that changing ! why kix dont go offline and play with a rubberduck alone . 

    kixeye give us some hopeful possibility with that hull and after change it to bullshit . i cant say this more clear ...

    we dont need the revenge like a baser ! we want back the old or first revenge from raid !

    we want to fun in that game or you really want us to search fun in a other game ? 

    tell me and kixeye about your thoughts ...lets us change back this changing...
  • Commodore Clambeard
    Commodore Clambeard
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 734
    I am not saying people cant be inventive with the hull but expecting it to do more than says on the tin is sillly, if you can get some other uses out of it all good . Im just stating what its intended for.


    and i was only stating, "why should i have to read every forum to know how good the hull will be or how long it will last for"//  some in-game info would be nice kix...  they think because its in the forum then everyone knows about it....  i couldnt care less.. the hull cost me nothing..  im finding it usefull at times like most ships..  i feel sorry for the ones who spend hundreds of dollars on a game thats FREE....hahahahhahaha
    1) The blueprint for the hull specifecally states it is for hitting player bases. So now are you going to say your stance is that you do not even have to read the bp's you are winning?

    2) How can you be upset at what a company does if you are not even willing to educate yourself on what you are buying :) I never buy something without first researching it and doing some window shopping. 

    3) The game is free to play, you do not pay them to access any of the content :)

    And lastly this was taken last night and we were doing this all day after the update. You can skip to 11:30 if you want to skip all the prepping. This is bases off my Revenge build my alliance is using. It does pretty good in bases up to levl 6 stands, Glacial, bask, frostbit, enforcers, gamma, omega, rhinos, mastadon and proto mastadons so far taken with this fleet. As more gets built I will try bigger and better bases :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spOWtRR8hO4



    Yes that is right, a PvE target for 0 damage, can do 3 to 4 an hour :) You are welcome and no I do not share my builds with those on the forum.
    you seem like just as big a troll as the rest of them, yay, you can do the weekly for zero damage, whoopty freaking doo. nobody gives a **** about your build, it will come out eventually.

    i read the stats for the revenge, they are not the same now so your point is null. if kix were going to release something and then change it all the while knowing they were gonna change it, then it should not have been released til it was ready, plain and simple. you defending this just makes you look like a tool.
    Ahh I see, so proving you all wrong that the changes hurt the Revenge in the FM is trolling?

    The hull was changed, it was made better in every single aspect of the game. 

    Nah me showing that you guys are wrong is just that, me being right and you guys are nothing but professional whiners that should be ignored.

    And no my build will not come out, because if those I have shared it with share it. They will be cut off from any future builds.
    better in every single aspect? ahhh nope. it lacks in many different areas now. get off your high horse, this is a game not real life. the fact that you say something like "showing that you guys are wrong" and "they will be cut off"  is absolutely hilarious to me and shows how you seem to have elevated yourself mentally like it actually matters. guess what, it doesnt. its a game nothing more nothing less. someone else will figure out a build (you are not the only person in this game) and share it because thats what decent folk do. im in a sect of annoying folks but i have still shared tips and strategies with them. and you saying that we are worthy of ignoring displays how weak you really are. reply when (if?) you have something pertinent to add and worth my time to read. 


  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
  • Specialist aka Specs
    Specialist aka Specs
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Nov 2012 Posts: 9,395
    better in every single aspect? ahhh nope. it lacks in many different areas now. get off your high horse, this is a game not real life. the fact that you say something like "showing that you guys are wrong" and "they will be cut off"  is absolutely hilarious to me and shows how you seem to have elevated yourself mentally like it actually matters. guess what, it doesnt. its a game nothing more nothing less. someone else will figure out a build (you are not the only person in this game) and share it because thats what decent folk do. im in a sect of annoying folks but i have still shared tips and strategies with them. and you saying that we are worthy of ignoring displays how weak you really are. reply when (if?) you have something pertinent to add and worth my time to read. 


    1) Yes someone else will figure it out, but it will not be those complaining here :) 
    2) Yes I will cut people off that share my builds, my choice and as you can see they get an advantage a little earlier than everyone else by keeping what I share.
    3) I have never elevated anything in my mind or otherwise. Do i believe I am better than you or anyone else complaining the hull sucks? Yes, because well I have proof that my way works. Your way has led you to complain :)
    4) If I was not worth your time you would not have responded to me to begin with :)


  • Fred Snyder
    Fred Snyder
    Greenhorn
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 2
    Wed, May 4th, 2016
    Good morning,
      This note is to address the recent changes to the revenge hull offered in the last monthly raid. When this hull was introduced, Kix announced that it would be changed, and at or close to the same time,redirected a whole new meaning to PVP (player vs Player) and PVE Player vs Enviorement (world targets?)). 
      In as much as Kix is in buisness to MAKE money, it sad that they have to continusly resort to deceptive ways to gain more wealth. This hull as offered was Outstanding. Many in my sector, and as I read more and more across the game world, that got the hull coined 2 or more builds of this hull. Possibly not taking into account what all the new terminology actually meant,along with myself enjoied the heck out of a new hull that was great out of the box. Finally, a hull worth a bit of coin to gain some edge. As I said, Many of us either did not understand the newest terminology being presented or did not take it into consideration. We finally had something great, which now has been reduced to Junk. Litterly. While it MIGHT be good in someones base, it all but useless in a world target. This is my experience with this hull:

      Before the May 3rd DOWNGRADE I used 3 of these hulls to do 120 Drac U bases. which has as anyone that has hit these, 4 sections to it. My average cost persection was 5-7 gold for repairs. Immediately (I mean like 20 minutes) after the DOWNGRADE, I hit one andwas pleasently surprised that the damage taken was almost zero. Total repair for the 3 ship flt forall 4 sections was about 5 coin. I just tried it again, and was destroyed 3 times before giving up the attempt. total cost on this mornings attempt (with the same 3 hulls and crew) was 36 coin with a waiting 5hr 37min repair. 

       Not only did this piss me off, it saddened me to the realization that Kixeye, once again has stoopped to deceptive means. Again, the did say that the great hull WOULD be REDUCED (or moved to) to a certain 
    section of the playing field. A simple way of putting it, Offering us cake, then give us crumbs. It appears the designer of this hull didn't realize (or perhaps did) the potential of this hull in time, Though being synical, I doubt it. Thus, Kixeye added the reduction plan after the hull had been publisized. Again, taking into the fact that a good majority of us players go after the top prizes in the monthly events in hopes of getting something WORTH our coins spent this game. However, I for one, am tired of the continued and if not increased deceptions that Kixeye perpatrats on us. While I am addicted to this game as many of you are, I've decided to attempt to gain some of Kixeye's attention regarding this matter..

       Therefore, I am asking ANYONE that reads post, regardless or where it appears, to join me in boycotting Kixeye and not spend anymore coin in the future developments of this game. I realize a number of you will laugh this off, and continue to spend those coins, But perhaps enough will join me and follow through with this plan and show Kix we've had enough deception. Enough greed. Enough "Let's see how much we can take these suckers for this month." I thank you for taking the time to read this note, and regardless if you do or do not participate in this boycott, Happy hunting to all of you... 
    Fred S.

  • kixeyeuser_1375810824263_12234_28846940
    kixeyeuser_1375810824263_12234_28846940
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Feb 2016 Posts: 4,914

    @Shiba said:
    The revenge got a buff..  Anyone who says it was nerfed, got it and coined it to be used in PvE even though they were warned by EVERY **** BP FORUM EVER that deflection bypass was being added, and it was a PvP baser..  

    This hull is exactly what it was billed as.   

    Even the alert thing in the middle of the raid warned of it.

  • Commodore Clambeard
    Commodore Clambeard
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Feb 2013 Posts: 734
    better in every single aspect? ahhh nope. it lacks in many different areas now. get off your high horse, this is a game not real life. the fact that you say something like "showing that you guys are wrong" and "they will be cut off"  is absolutely hilarious to me and shows how you seem to have elevated yourself mentally like it actually matters. guess what, it doesnt. its a game nothing more nothing less. someone else will figure out a build (you are not the only person in this game) and share it because thats what decent folk do. im in a sect of annoying folks but i have still shared tips and strategies with them. and you saying that we are worthy of ignoring displays how weak you really are. reply when (if?) you have something pertinent to add and worth my time to read. 


    1) Yes someone else will figure it out, but it will not be those complaining here :) 
    2) Yes I will cut people off that share my builds, my choice and as you can see they get an advantage a little earlier than everyone else by keeping what I share.
    3) I have never elevated anything in my mind or otherwise. Do i believe I am better than you or anyone else complaining the hull sucks? Yes, because well I have proof that my way works. Your way has led you to complain :)
    4) If I was not worth your time you would not have responded to me to begin with :)


    lol why dont you read back number 3 to yourself. kind of a contradiction there.  i never said the hull "sucks" i said it lacks in what it was. altering and making up what people say doesnt, and never will make you right. nice try though.

    i am still building the hulls, i will eventually figure out what works like i always do. i am a patient person, i dont need to coin massive refits to find the answer. you on the other hand have, and on top of that seem to think that because you do such things it makes you better than the rest, so yeah, i stand by my original statement that you have elevated yourself mentally in something so trivial. better you than me :)

    it was worth my time to point out that your tactic to falsify what i posted wasnt going to work. and how you have shown us on the forums your true character and what kind of person you truly are  :)

    i said reply if you had something pertinent to add. you fell pretty short there..... 
  • Maeda Atsuko
    Maeda Atsuko
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Jun 2013 Posts: 928

    its was a pvp hull, what you expect

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  • loloz
    loloz
    Potential Threat
    Joined Aug 2015 Posts: 66
    Could of been streamlining code or making code more efficient over the years. Vs- finding ways to add unpolished- and still years of broken unfinished features. I have been a coder- Always find places and ways to lighten the code burden. Everybody's  comps are getting so loaded down. I have yet to be able to do a new sub sector base with out the game - mostly due to flash- crashing- or locking up on me.
    So while the game needs to evolve- so does the code- and the burden it put out there.
    just few things

    the core code was borrowed to start with,, not from scratch
    and flash itself is a mess, tho there is contractin companies to do the job of switchin flash to html5

    the above doesnt matter since it was stated many time they have 0 intention to invest in  such
    basically the core code was stolen...not borrowed. They done what Bill Gates done to Steve Jobs...stole chit then market it.
  • Hyperius
    Hyperius
    Moderator
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 12,102
    This was going to happen and was voiced out prior to the Revenge release. It's working as intended and functioning as a better base hitting hull (what it was designed to be) than before.

    KIXEYE Senior Moderator

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  • kixeyeuser_1415967218417_100008428995224
    kixeyeuser_1415967218417_100008428995224
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined May 2015 Posts: 643
    Worked very well in the raid. Seeing is believing for many.
  • Hyperius
    Hyperius
    Moderator
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 12,102
    Worked very well in the raid. Seeing is believing for many.
    That's because deflection bypass was not yet introduced into the game. It was voiced many times that this would not be the case for long.

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  • omega102
    omega102
    Potential Threat
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 76
    It was said from the beginning that it was going to be a PvP base hitting hull.  That is why I did not get it, how much it has changed as a Base hitter not sure.
  • stingrayslammer
    stingrayslammer
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 145
    Shiba said:
    The revenge got a buff..  Anyone who says it was nerfed, got it and coined it to be used in PvE even though they were warned by EVERY **** BP FORUM EVER that deflection bypass was being added, and it was a PvP baser..  


    This hull is exactly what it was billed as.   

    and still gets cooked in a lot of bases that i've seen em used in
  • Dumpster D
    Dumpster D
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Mar 2013 Posts: 466
    edited 4 May 2016, 3:57PM
    i think the point is it should have been tested an not released if it wasn't correct.  being correct or even close to it in the first place wouldn't have caused so many to complaints, but to put it out there for weeks and take it away seems to be a consistent pattern.
  • Wayward_son
    Wayward_son
    Strike-force Captain
    Joined Apr 2016 Posts: 615
    Yet another that didn't see, all the warnings. Remember the thing about fools and their money?
  • Shiba
    Shiba
    Unicorn Overlord
    Joined Dec 2011 Posts: 3,575
    Shiba said:
    The revenge got a buff..  Anyone who says it was nerfed, got it and coined it to be used in PvE even though they were warned by EVERY **** BP FORUM EVER that deflection bypass was being added, and it was a PvP baser..  


    This hull is exactly what it was billed as.   

    and still gets cooked in a lot of bases that i've seen em used in
    it is not a click the back of the base hull..   And the way you build it matters..  

    but I have seen quite a few blase top end bases,  and ive seen others fail....

  • Taylor Martin
    Taylor Martin
    Skilled Warrior
    Joined Dec 2012 Posts: 339
    Shiba said:
    The revenge got a buff..  Anyone who says it was nerfed, got it and coined it to be used in PvE even though they were warned by EVERY **** BP FORUM EVER that deflection bypass was being added, and it was a PvP baser..  


    This hull is exactly what it was billed as.   

    and still gets cooked in a lot of bases that i've seen em used in
    the hull requires skill in a lot of bases, one of the intentions was to bring skill back to the game
  • Bouncefactor
    Bouncefactor
    Potential Threat
    Joined Mar 2012 Posts: 89
    KIX has screwed the pooch many times over and over this is one time they did NOT.  This wasnt a case of oops we goofed too powerful and they nerfed it.  Right from the beginning they warned us over and over what was coming before people coined builds, wasted tokens etc...   Yelling about change is like complaining to the cop when you get a speeding ticket after passing signs saying speed zone coming reduce speeds ahead.    What else could Kix do? have a popup when you start revenge build saying remember this hull wont be good in PVE in a few weeks?  

  • stingrayslammer
    stingrayslammer
    Minor Nuisance
    Joined May 2012 Posts: 145
    Shiba said:
    The revenge got a buff..  Anyone who says it was nerfed, got it and coined it to be used in PvE even though they were warned by EVERY **** BP FORUM EVER that deflection bypass was being added, and it was a PvP baser..  


    This hull is exactly what it was billed as.   

    and still gets cooked in a lot of bases that i've seen em used in
    the hull requires skill in a lot of bases, one of the intentions was to bring skill back to the game
    true, but launcher guards just eat em up if done right, so far i've been lucky not to have a revenge flt make it thru unless i have guard in, saying that ik it will happen at some point
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